Police Taser & Beanbag Flipped-Out Phoenix VA Medical Chief
Former Phoenix VA chief of health care threatened suicide yesterday and was tasered by local police in his home following his recent termination for management over corruption and fraud linked to veteran deaths in the VA wait list scandal.
Brad Curry, former Chief of Health Administration at Phoenix VA, was terminated last month following the explosive national scandal that VA employees had inflicted manslaughter by killing veterans by manipulating wait times for urgently needed health care – and even collected 5-figure bonuses for their criminal scheme. VA chiefs like Brad Curry benefited financially and professionally as a result of their fraudulent scheme that made hospital performance numbers look great when they were actually horrifying.
Curry and three other employees were fired as a direct result of their involvement in the VA scandal to this point. We have to wonder what is going on in the heads of his fellow Phoenix VA staffers since their chances of finding non-VA and non-federal employment are next to impossible. Will they commit suicide like so many veterans who see their chances of having a normal life grow dimmer by the weeks and months as this national scandal and healthcare horror story grows larger? And should we, as veterans, really care?
Curry’s family called 911 after they found the former VA chief in a fit of rage. Curry was reported by his own family members running around his home with a gun claiming he was going to commit suicide or hurt himself. How many veterans did he cause to suffer the same trauma and fate who actually pulled the trigger?
While engulfed in his fit, Mesa police reportedly fired three beanbag rounds into Curry. When he failed to clam down, they reportedly tased the former VA chief. That’s a pretty strong indication of how “wigged-out” he had become. Perhaps one option for him is to apply for Social Security disability benefits and blame his condition on other corrupt Phoenix VAMC officials who coerced him to do evil deeds.
Veterans making social media posts were rather delighted to hear that reality was finally settling in for Curry — and likely other many other VA employees who will be unable to find work after being connected to such outrageous, horrendous scandals.
Should we pause to imagine the extreme emotional trauma that many veterans also suffered under Mr. Curry’s watch at the Phoenix VA medical center? And just how many veterans hoping to get care at the Phoenix VAMC that didn’t die from medical complications but committed suicide instead?
We haven’t heard a peep from Congress, the major news media or the new VA Secretary about any facts along those lines. And just how many veterans are still now suffering serious medical complications due to the actions of those Brad Curry, Chief of Health Administration at the Phoenix VAMC? These are questions that we should all examine to gain a proper perspective and keep such incidents in context of this evolving scandal within the VA leadership ranks. I believe the numbers are going to increase to shocking levels.
One veteran commented, “Let them wait for their last paycheck, sweating bullets. When you get fired for misconduct you are not going to roll into another sweet gig.” To be sure, Brad Curry’s best hope for future employment may be mopping floors at a federal prison or at a local fast food outlet if he is not arrested and imprisoned.
How long will it take for the day of criminal indictment, trial and judgment of sentence and punishment to come? How many veterans are there in Phoenix who will suffer for the rest of their lives due to the corrupt actions of VA administrators like Brad Curry and Sharon Helman? We need to keep asking ourselves these questions – since failing to do so will allow misplaced empathy and compassion for the VA criminals who are guilty of killing our fellow veterans. They all lied, and got rich, while veterans died.
What kind of punishment should any VA official have imposed if they are responsible for the untimely deaths of innocent veterans? We think the answers are obvious. But will the U.S. government have the same standard of criminal accountability for those who kill with pens instead of pistols?
Let us know your thoughts and feelings – especially if your quality of life has been seriously or permanently harmed by the denial of care and treatment that has infected every VA facility across this land.
VA DEATHCARE KILLS VETS FOR THE BONOUS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ THATS A LEGSAL FACT WAKE UP LAZY VETS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Mr. Curry, his situation at home resembles what happened to the Warden on Shaws hank Redemption, but the Warden closed the deal.The V.A. reminds me of another movie, The Good,The Bad and The Ugly 1966,There’s a few good V.A. employees,there’s a few bad employees, and a few mean ugly employees.
VA ONE BIG BIG BIG FEDERAL RICO CRIME RACKET FROM HE THE MAFIA IS CHUMP CHANGE THE 169 BILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ VA RICO RACKETS FROM HELL VA AFGE UNION THUG RATS STEAL MOST OF THE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FROM DYING WAR VETS THATS A LEGAL FACT
MY TAKE ON THIS IS YES THIS GUY IS A BAD GUY BUT IT GOES MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT, MIND CONTROL IS BEING DEVELOPED AT VA HOSPITALS. LISTEN TO THIS VA DOCTOR TELL YOU WHAT IS GOING ON IN VA HOSPITALS. CHEMTRAILS ARE PART OF THIS GLOBAL MIND CONTROL PROGRAM BEING DEVELOPED AND I’M SURE THIS DIRECTOR OR EX VA DIRECTOR KNEW A TON OF STUFF ABOUT THIS SHIT. THEY HAD TO DISCREDIT HIM BEFORE HE BLEW THE WHISTLE ON THIS SHIT. NOW THE GUY IS A NUT CASE, THAT’S HOW THEY OPERATE. WAKE THE HELL UP TO WHAT’S GOING ON AROUND YOU, A LOT OF CRAZY SHIT, MOST MIND CONTROL. CHEMTRAILS ARE MIND CONTROL https://chemtrailsaremindcontrol.shutterfly.com/vadoc
Kevin? Why are you writing in ALL CAPS? I think the issue you really have here, is that some people who are in/have been in the military, are nuttier than a squirrel turd, on account of having been run too hard for too long and in too many directions, with the final net result being PARTIAL/TOTAL MENTAL BREAKDOWN!!!!!!(LOUDER!!!!!!) Is there some kind of Secret Government Mind Control going on at VA hospitals? Well, set the ratcheting mechanism on the base of your tinfoil hat to counter-clockwise, for a change, and let it spin in the opposite direction for a while, and ask about paranoia, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and, so is mental illness, and the ‘science’ of medicine is less-than-perfect, especially when it comes to trying to diagnose WTF is going on inside somebody else’s head. This ain’t Star Trek, no Mr. Spock with the mind-meld on-staff at the VA. The people that work there could probably copy the finger pattern, but that’s pretty much where the magic stops, right? Right. So, instead, you’ve got people that probably would rather not work there to begin with, but they do and they put up with vets and all their problems, on account the paycheck is kind of good, but…then…other problems develop, and you’ve got doctors and psychologists and so forth that might or might not know what they’re talking about in certain circumstances, trying to help people that might or might not have both feet on the ground, mentally AND physically, at the end of the day.
I think that effective mental health care starts with an holistic-type approach, looking at the ‘triangle’, mind, body, spirit. If any of the three gets out-of-whack, it’s going to directly affect the other two. So, let’s go with the foundations.
Mind: Many people today, including current and former military types, can be flirting with mental overload, on account of too much information coming in. We live in a society that’s become digitally distracted. There’s a TV in every room, a smartphone in every pocket, and a computer on every desk. Oh, and don’t forget the radio. And your training manuals/equivalent. And other work reference-stuff. Read, listen, hear, write, talk, bla bla bla. That’s a lot of information processing and communicating, and stuff. Do enough of it, and it can drive you batty. It doesn’t matter what the source is, when your head starts turning into a relay station, well, Nature didn’t design you as a re-trans system, right? Mental breakdown ensues, after a certain period of information overload. In Japan, they have a word, for death-by-overwork. In the US, we have three. Makes ya think, right? Right. Then, you start talking about the quality and type of information, including ‘entertainment’, that people tend to take in, and yes, Hollywood, I’m talking about you, and Secret Government ballistic splatter-vision, and of course, everyone’s favorite, politics. And, infomercials. All of this info intake can mess with your head, is my point. Garbage in, garbage out, people aren’t so different from computers, in some ways. And we use waaaaay too many computers in the Modern Age.
Body: How many people, vets included, get enough basic exercise to keep from falling apart before their time? How many people, vets included, eat a proper diet? How many get the right amount of sleep? How many of them drink enough WATER? How many go for that annual checkup,, brush their teeth, and tend to chronic illness and ailment properly and in a timely fashion? How many chain-smoke, and drink like a fish(alcohol)? How many protect themselves from things like chemical exposures, industrial-stuff, and stuff? How many are working on diabetes, which can cause mental illness, too?
Spirit: This gets back to that TV-watching, but also encompasses other stuff, talking about spiritual nourishment, beyond our media intake. How many go to church/mosque/synagogue regularly, or just sit at a dinnertable with others, and fellowship without any religious connotations? How many have friends, real friends, that kind of thing? How many have a solid education? How many are fully literate, honestly, and still able/willing to learn something, in this life? How many folks out there of any stripe have kind of passively given over into some kind of mental state where ‘this is how it is, woe is me, woe is me'(cue misery-inducing country song, with steel guitar lead-in)?
The VA can only do so much, they’re only staffed by people, not magicians or shamen or equivalent. And, they cannot help someone, who has decidered not to help themselves, they can’t help someone who’s just decided to be a big baby, or given up, basically. The VA can’t live your life for you. They might be able to have you committed, and there’s probably people under VA care who have basically been committed, meaning that this branch of post-military medical The Government has pretty much taken over your life on account you quit being fully in charge of yourself, probably in connection with some kind of court order, or something, hard to say, really.
Anyway, long story short, the VA is an imperfect, federally-funded human effort to try and help the veterans community, but will always be beset by human imperfection, greed, incompetence, general lack of motivation on the part of all concerned, and external attempts to play all concerned for stupid, and take their money. Then, there’s the internal/external politics, and probably an honest need for at least an annual external audit, just to KEEP it honest.
Awww come on…. At least you got some guys dismissed, Here in GA and SC the Ghouls still run free and nothing has changed except we get big smiles now…. They are going to enjoy killing us….With this new blast of cash…. The only thing they have been told to do here is smile at your victim….. Jokers every one of em…. We gonna die horribly I would have rather died in that bomb blast, at least my family would have got some insurance money….
well like i said they have got harder to deal with here in beckey in southern w.va and in salem virginia, seen the doc they gave me two times in a year since i moved here had another heart attack during the in between time, seem,s they could care less if you die or not, told him about the rash on my leg that won,t go away he did,nt even look at it
I went to the VA for a cancer follow up and the doc calls in some chick who makes no visual check what-so-ever. She just runs her fingers over the scar through the back of my jeans and declares me good to go after a five hour wait.
Phoenix is the place to be, alright, alright. Will the US government have the same standard of criminal accountabiliy for those who kill with pens instead of pistols, you ask? Fuck NO.
Who the hell are we dealing with here –the govenment? You do mean the U.S. Government who bailed out the entire financial industry in 2008 because of outragious, illegal and unscrupulous lying on what their mortgage-backed security deriv-packages were really worth (shit) and to this day no big wheels have gone to jail (arrested or imprisoned) because of it because they OWN the freak’in government government? Is that the government you are referring to? What kind of punishment should any VA official have imposed on them for their wrongdoings you ask? I guess “similar” will be the order of the day.
Transparency? Accountability? “Supposed to” and how things are really done are two different rules here. “Unable to find work” after being connected to the VA scandal? Maybe or maybe not… not definitely not. Write you congessman or senator and ask them to straighten the VA out? How about writing Al Capone or Bernie Madoff? We are all walking in a dangerous field.
Some comments here are perhaps more salient than others; I especially appreciated Luanne Van De Velde’s remarks. However, one thing clearly stands out and is held in common with everyone’s response: there is little sympathy for the Bloated Tick Administrator. I personally think it’s a shame he was to much of a coward to follow through with his threat,—which, by the way, is one of the categories that the Disruptive Behavior Committees (think of them as the Sharia Sheriffs of the VHA) will flag a veteran for, i.e., threatening suicide.
Those commenters who pointed out the uneven playing field, or how if one of us threatened suicide or had such a confrontation with the authorities, they sure as hell wouldn’t agree to let us keep our guns or drive away as if nothing happened.
In 1995, I threw my dishes into the kitchen sink at home after arguing with my wife, cocked and held a .357 against my temple primarily to get her out of my face. Crazy stuff, yes, but I am 100% disabled with PTSD. A few minutes later two deputies appeared on my front lawn, and when I went out to talk with them, they instantly pepper-sprayed me, kicked my legs out from under me so I performed a face-plant on the cement sidewalk, cuffed me, and left me to lie and gag on my own heavy mucus(resulting from the spray) for over an hour before an ambulance finally arrived. Then I was taken to a local hospital where I was kept on the mental health ward for over a week.
And this whiny bozo administrator who has played some pivotal role in the deaths of 40+ veterans and has whipped up some emotional hysteria because he is feeling sorry for HIMSELF,—not, mind you, for the veterans whose deaths he bears complicity in,—is released scot free to simply go on with his daily life as if nothing happened? Oh, yeah, that sounds fair.
No double standards happening here, huh? Just another day in the Land of Inequality.
Regardless of how you feel about the incident in Ferguson, I think we can all agree that lethal force WAS appropriate here…
Manslaughter would be highly appropriate. Full restitution of all government monies they received would be highly appropriate. And denial of any associated health care benefits, life insurances or any annunities plans for them or first degree relatives who might have otherwise benefited from their misconduct.
Big deal. Fire three people when there are Senior GS Civilians that need to go too. They have been there too long and they just wait it out while they retire on active duty….yeah, government civilians get that too!!! When the heck is someone with leadership ability going to be put in charge. I damn sure could make the necessary changes and implement a decent database and disability review system, so why can’t they put someone in charge that can? It ain’t rocket surgery, so why they heck isn’t it done? Ask some of the people like me that have many multiple disabilities what some of the serious problems are and you will have a place to start. Just training those that review our records would be a good start, but there is so much more to do! Hopefully, they will get their act together and be a better VA System.
I think it’s like this, the VA is an imperfect institution created by imperfect people that attempts to address the problems and issues of still more people who were at one point in their lives thrust into another imperfect situation, one in which people were actively trying to kill each other, and thrust into it in the garb of the US military. As far as disability review, maybe if it can at least be initially established as to how many people are currently filing such a claim, then you have a starting point. After that, you start winnowing out the fake cases. And, you start policing the VA for kickback-stuff, and other people-and-money type problems. Main thing is, people that left part of their hearts and minds on foreign shores someplace get taken care of, free-loaders given fair warning and ushered off the property, and the core function, mission, and charter of the VA be reviewed and reiterated for the benefit and satisfaction of all and sundry, and problems promptly identified, recorded, and addressed, as best as humanly possible.
Why are none of the deaths or mistreatment whether physically, mentally or financially not being connected or associated with Veterans being intentionally harmed or killed by those of the Islamic faith that have assimilated themselves into the VA for the sole purpose of harming Veterans yet?? I haven’t seen any stories on your Website on that subject either. I have been dropped from treatment at Birmingham,Alabama VA because I insist on being seen by non-Islamic Doctors. Anywhere from 6 to 9 Million Veterans and their families being treated at over 1700 hundred facilities and our Government has managed to keep the patients safe from harm by those of the Islamic faith employed by the Veterans Administration??? Give me a break. As long as the VA chooses to drop from treatment and silence Veterans with questions as mine and protect their staff from investigation we will continue to suffer death and mistreatment at the hands of the Veterans Administration and the politicians that allow it.
Serves him right. After what they did to us and the reprisals. I have no problems turning a blind eye just like they did me. Writers call it poetic justice. Maybe they should put him in the same room that they had the one patient in………….8 years as an inpatient on the psych ward with 1 evaluation.
Ironic,I am curious to know if he will seek medical or pyscological assistance from the VA,if so,his demise is eminent /:-(
54 years I suffer from frostbite. have pictures and medical records from U.S.C.G. been on ss sence 1974 but told to go to hell. Iam a fake. All cripple
up live and so much pain and a wheelchair.
Proverbs 24:17&20
17 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls,
And do not let your heart be glad when he stumbles;
20 For there will be no prospect for the evil man;
The lamp of the wicked will be put out.
Vengeance is mine says The Lord!
This guy WILL either fully repent or get his true reward.
I went to a civilian eye doctor two weeks ago and found out the cause of my eye sight going faster than normal as a connection directly related to the arthritis I had developed 20 years ago while in service. I’ve been seeing the VA for 14 years since I began noticing an eye connection and have had atleast 10 eye checks with the VA eye people and not one answer of how and where it developed from, yes, stupid me for trusting the kind eye clinic VA doctors. WTF. I feel like im dealing with a healthcare system that just laughs as I leave my appointments and they say behind my back, “hurry up and die! ” As confirmed early this past year by a fellow VASH veteran who made that statement to me while protecting the system that is supposed to be helping us and serving us because it is our benefit that we earned serving our country. Wtf… I hate these bastards! Its really a serious hatred that is quite sick. I shouldn’t have to hate like this.
Fire Ralph Gigliotti
Visn 19 director
He is corrupt
BEEN A NITE MARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THEM HERE IN W,VA, NOT ONLY THEM ,,,,,BUT THE ONLY DAV OFFICE IN HUNTINGTON W.VA AND THE V.A. AT SALEM VIRGINIA , THEY GOT TON,S OF RULES AND REG,S WE VET,S ARE NOT AWARE OF AND THEY WILL USE THEM AGAIN YOU, THEY HAVE NOT MADE THE SYSTEM SIMPLE TO USE, BUT HARDER AND I THINK IT,S WORSE CAUSE THEY GOT CAUGHT, I HAVE NO PITY FOR THOSE WHO WERE IN CHARGE AND TRYING TO DO THERE SELF,S IN, THEY HAD NONE ON US PS NEVER EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE DAV, TILL I WENT THROUGH THERE OFFICE IN HUNTINGTON, NEVER EVEN GOT A CALL BACK OR AN ANSWER ON MY QUESTION AND CLAIM,, NOR FROM THE MAIN OFFICE IN KY. BY THE WAY I,AM A LIFE MEMBER HAVE BEEN SINCE 1983
Let me get this straight. The cops come and shoot him 3 times with bean bags and once with a taser while he is running around the house with a gun in his hand, threatening to harm him or kill himself and he is not arrested or involuntarily committed?
Why is that? Is it became somewhat rational after he was tased and dropped the gun? If a vet mentions suicide at a VA, in a New York minute he will be surrounded by VA cops and medical personnel and they don’t let you go by you just saying everything is fine now.
And oh, poor baby, he lost his job. How many vets, having mental of physical disabilities lost dozens of jobs while the VA said there is nothing wrong with them – or didn’t even give them an appointment?
Why hasn’t he been arrested for involuntary manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide for what happened at the VA? He gets fired and that’s it? Maybe Ben can tell us the legal reasons why he can’t be held criminally liable?
Are you kidding me…this douche bag gets what’s coming to him and all of a sudden he wants pity? I am a veteran that from a physical health aspect has been screwed by lies, malpractice and VA abuse. I’ve been going to the VA for help with my service connected physical injuries since I got out of the reserves and active duty 17+ years ago and have sat in ER rooms for 8 hours and not be seen, laid out on the floor of my VA outpatient clinic in severe pain begging for a bed to lay on while waiting to be seen and denied, knees and ankle injuries totally ignored while they tried paralyzing me with a SCIATIC nerve block in an exam room with no Xray to guide his 1′ long needle into my spine from my hip and no professional practices one like that. Denied proper treatment through neglect and negligent VA healthcare and then my C-file loaded with PTSD diagnosis from the beginning and two denials for service connection because the VA failed to.look…that’s right just look! Let alone not do the right thing. My life has been helped along the way by the VA negligence and malpractice to be destroyed. They are more than 75% responsible if not 100% for the destruction of my life and my families life because they failed to look and do the right thing. And Ive lived with the pain and setbacks for 17 years still.fighting. Im.pissed. I hate them so much I can’t even see them healthcare wise with any confidence that they aren’t going to kill me. If this guy would’ve hung himself that wouldn’t have been enough retribution for my years of pain and suffering! Fuck!
One’s value as a human being can be judged by the enemies one acquires.
Shows how sick the VA system really is and how unjust the prosecution of the crimes committed there. This guy should be in prison for the rest of his life.
Karma. These VA parasite vampires torture, cheat and lie to sick, wounded and elderly vets for profit. May he rot in Hell after suffering a long bout of cancer and mental terror.
I just would like to know WHEN some of these people are finally going to be punished? They are still collecting paychecks. It’s almost like an extended vacation. I’d personally LOVE to see them face murder charges. How many dead veterans and still nobody “officially fired” and most still working at VA, WTH????