WWII Veteran Must Prove Military Service Despite Discharge Papers

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WWII Veteran Purple Heart

Benjamin KrauseThe Department of Veterans Affairs says one WWII veteran with two Bronze Stars and one Purple Heart still does not have enough proof of military service.

Disabled veteran Emil Limpert recently submitted a claim for benefits for his injured leg that was wounded in a Philippines’ foxhole when a grenade went off. The grenade killed two soldiers and severely wounded Limpert.

WWII VETERAN EVIDENCE

He supplied evidence of his two Bronze Stars and one Purple Heart along with an xray of the wound. He also provided his discharge papers. But VA claims the evidence is insufficient to prove his military service and military injuries.

Limpert’s records were destroyed in the 1973 Missouri fire that conveniently destroyed the military service records of millions of veterans. Now, VA wants him to provide additional evidence including buddy letters from his dead comrades.

“I get this letter that says we can’t accept it because we’ve got no record of you being in the service,” said Limpert. “I guess I’m the unknown soldier.”

VA wanted Limpert to provide the identity of the hospital that treated him for his initial wounds. He would provide that information if he was injured anywhere other than the jungle of the Philippines, where there were no hospitals.

“There ain’t no hospital,” said Limpert. “We were in the jungles.”

VA always throws common sense out the window whenever adjudicating claims, and it is a shame we keep hearing stories like Limpert’s.

VETERANS SOMETIMES WAIT TOO LATE

Veterans tend to wait until they are in a hard place to seek benefits from the agency. And it seems like VA always responds with as many idiotic excuses as possible to deny those veterans the first or second time around.

“Delay, deny, hope that I die,” ring a bell?

If you are a disabled veteran who has not yet filed for a rating, it is never too early to get it sorted out. For Lampert, he is down to his last pennies together when he  first filed. Horrible idea – and tangling with VA in your 90’s is not what you want to go through.

Trust me.

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/07/va-demands-proof-world-war-ii-combat-vet-with-purple-heart-served-in-military.html

 

namnibor

How much longer will the VA be able to milk this “St. Louis Records Fire”? I read the Fox article and when you read the comments you will see several people “found” Veteran Limpert’s documentation where and when he served in just a few minutes of searching in the archives.
Sounds like the VA is both too lazy to search and trying to play “plausible denial”, while just riding out this Vet’s remaining years. Truly evil, these people are.

danangme69
danangme69

Yeah that fire was a liberal plot.Check your water the libs might have put some fluoride in it.

crazy elf
crazy elf
I noticed something else in the comments section. Some were blaming the veteran for “waiting too long to apply for benefits”. Some even accuse him of “scamming the system!” For those who stated that; SHAME ON YOU!” Today, most people take for granted why people of his age wait so long. It’s because people of that generation “worked their ass off until they reached a high age!” Some worked until they died! They lived through something, we today have no… Read more »
Hondo
Hondo

Beautifully said Crazy. My dad was on Pearl Harbor when it was bombed he spent 22 years in the Navy, didn’t go to the VA for anything. If he couldn’t pay for something he didn’t need it.

I remember the war the end of the war my dad coming home from the war. They were a proud generation who deserve everything possible without question………..

namnibor
Well said, crazyelf!!!! See, that’s the HUGE difference we have today with these “Wars of 15 years solid”, is that in **past wars** Americans were ‘ASKED TO SACRIFICE’, and that meant recycling all kinds of things, and family’s were given “Ration Stamps” in order to conserve resources to WIN both WW1/WW2. That meant serious rationing of things from gasoline, food, metals, to even alcohol and much more. With these now 15 years of SOLID WAR, a HUGE MISTAKE in my… Read more »
crazy elf
crazy elf
@namnibor and Hondo. I read somewhere this a.m. where there is approximately 145 million people in the workforce. Out of this, approximately 95 million are unemployed. That averages to about a “49% unemployment rate”! Far from the 4.9% the White House claims. In the article, the writer says the “(gov.) must be using Common Core Math!” How else could Obamy come up with such a Rediculous Figure? It’s been said there are approximately 300+ million people living in the U.S.… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
The manipulation of the unemployment number results from the government no longer counting those unemployed who have given up finding a job. In other words, their unemployment figures are a blatant lie. I think this is a disaster in many ways if whatever they are doing now to survive suddenly comes to a halt. There were news reports of people applying for non VA disability spiking, and many getting it around 2009-2010. I believe it was a way for the… Read more »
crazy elf
crazy elf

Maybe it’s time Americans start “rationing” AGAIN. Can y’all imagine the people becoming belligerent over it?! That would say a lot about what Americans are really made of, wouldn’t it!

namnibor

The only thing being rationed is “common sense and intelligence”, and that rationing has been the blight affecting most of our so-called leaders in Congress, VAOIG, and DOJ.
It brings to mind a humorous scene in Tim Burton’s movie, “Mars Attacks”, where the Martians destroy all of Congress and they make some dark humor about it with Jack Nicholson as President. No intelligent life here.

danangme69
danangme69

First NO ONE found his military records online and in America today there are so many posers who claim to be veterans that EVERYONE has to show proof.

namnibor

If you had read the actual source article you would have read that this Veteran DID SHOW PROOF OF SERVICE….DISCHARGE PAPERS….but that was NOT good enough for the incompetent VA.
I will not feed your Troll Bate though. Maybe you should get back to playing Mine Craft or something at your “work station”?

Berta Simmons
I have urged many times at http://www.hadit.com over the past 2 decades that ,if the VA tells you that your records were “burned in the St Louis Fire”, check that out yourself, as it might be VA BS. I had a USAF vet who showed me what VA stated in a denial. Then his vet rep showed me 3 pages of all the VA said they could obtain,and that the rest of the rest of his SMRs had been destroyed… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

Truly sad to see this happening. I’m sure the VA will swear up and down they fulfilled their duty to assist this veteran. Hopefully McCaskill will see the media opportunity and do right in helping this vet.
Clearly a proud man who did not want to ask for help from anyone. Now, he has spent his last dime on helping he and his wife, while our feral goobermint are handing out thousands to illegal aliens and rapefugees.

James
The VA tried to pull this on me.well they did this to me and it went on for forty years.stating my official medical records were destroyed in that fire. Same thing it’s up to you to find someone who was there.we need more evidence.time after time. Left me in limbo.with no treatment for my TBI and ptsd.forty years of living a life of uncertainty if I was going crazy.why was my mind thinking of things or my mind racing. Just… Read more »
James

Should read from 1973

crazy elf
crazy elf

Google this:

“Unreal! – Tapped Phone Call Reveals What Obama is Giving Syrian Refugees Upon Their Arrival”

It should anger y’all!

namnibor
@crazyelf- Yes, I had read that about the Syrian Refugees and ALSO, *many* of these refugee women come already with an “Anchor Baby Brewing In Womb”, and you know where that’s heading? Yep. Sharia Law. Also, do you all recall in just the last year our POTUS mandated 1000’s of criminals released from prison for what he called “unjust drug and petty theft crimes as well as what Obammy likes to call Disenfranchised Youth”? Well, just in my State alone,… Read more »
crazy elf
crazy elf

@namnibor
I’ve also read where his, and that wife of his, “seven years vacation trips” have cost over $70.5 MILLION of taxpayer’s monies.

crazy elf
crazy elf
@namnibor Yea, our crime rate is skyrocketing out of control down here in Florida also. We’ve had MULTIPLE homicides and other incidents being reported daily. Of course, I wonder how many AREN’T being reported. Could it be because Florida doesn’t want to “upset” those who wish to “visit” (tourists)? Or, could it be they, the six corporations who own ALL the TV stations, just don’t want to report the “truth”? What are they afraid of – insurrection? As was done… Read more »
namnibor
@crazyelf- Even stranger is there’s been an uptick in “stabbings” alongside the already higher homicide rate than days already in this year in my city alone and it’ almost like “someone” must have told these thugs released early from prison, “Now, we do not want an increase in gun violence so USE KNIVES instead…”, yes, I know I am being more than a bit facetious but it’s what has been occurring here in State of Ohio last several months and… Read more »
Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
@ crazy elf: I googled the story about the tapped phone call and it led to nothing but conspiracy theory websites that make up stories about President Obama. I did not find a single CREDIBLE website so none of this story is verifiable. Also, on another post you claimed that President Obama has visited many mosques. He visited ONE in his 7 years as president and that was just a few days ago. On another post, you claimed that President… Read more »
Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
@91 veteran: Yes, many years ago President Obama asked if a veteran’s health insurance could pick up some of the coverage for a veteran. It was a question he asked, nothing more. It never went any further than that. I remember my Army Ranger brother complaining about it and when I told him that it was just a question and nothing more, he shut up about it. President Obama was attempting to find a way to get the veteran’s more… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
You know Beener, you whine about credible news sources, berate crazy elf about fact-checking, then come here and spew this BS about Obama just offering an idea shows how blatantly ignorant you are. You have repeatedly spewed your BS as fact, when everything you have said is a stretch, and if caught, you whine like most delusional leftists that “everybody does it”, or is at fault. It took about 3 seconds of searching to find a CNN article from 2009… Read more »
NamVet1969
NamVet1969

USS LSI(L) 1067 transfer orders for the US Army, 163rd Infantry, 41st Division, being assigned to Company C, shore, Philippines, include which included “PFC Emil C. Limpert”. Source: “Fold3 National Archives Records” February 7, 2016.

Doug
Doug

Way to go NamVet! I’d bet the VA is hoping his files were burned in the 73 fire and can’t be found!!

Doug
Doug

BTW, someone needs to get this to the proper people in charge of his filing and let them go forward on this!!

NamVet1969
NamVet1969

Mr. Limpert and his family sacrificed much during WWII. It appears his brother, US Navy SF1 Oliver R. Limpert, was one of 193 men lost at sea in December 1944, when his ship, the USS Cooper, was torpedoed and sank in battle with the Japanese near the Philippines (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56779660). VA is amazingly incompetent at even very simple benefit decisions. Radical change is needed.

Doug
Doug
How did this muslim fu*king sand ni$$er get into this conversation let alone terrorists and there womb infected future terrorist! This is about this WWII veteran and his dilemma. We need to focus on that issue and make this go viral and further shame these despicable piles of shit! I don’t get it and I’m with you on what the hell is goin on but this is just incomprehensible. My hope is you people vote repub.. cuz it’s the demons… Read more »
James

You are a racist and a major part of America’s problems. This is about all veterans not just a few.

Blood is red not black Brown or white. VA mentality.

Jim Cockerham
Jim Cockerham
I remember a few years ago when 2 young student employees at the NPRC in St Louis got busted for throwing away many veteran’s complete military files in a swampy wooded area near NPRC. When caught they confessed they had to “process” a certain number of military files to qualify to get a bonus (Christmas bonus, I think.) They were not fired and were allowed to keep their jobs. (I wouldn’t be surprised if they got their bonuses.) I read… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

A couple months after my unit came home from the Gulf, we had a new unit records clerk that was caught going through everyone’s 201 file and removing anything pertaining to our service over there. He believed it was no longer pertinent to keep in our files. Luckily the nitwit was caught before he had thrown anything away. He bragged how many college degrees he had, but couldn’t back any of them up with transcripts.

James
Every active duty members I meet or are planning to go into the military to keep records and keep every paper they get even ifs it on TP. But if someone is doing that.they should have been punished another misjudgment.jails are full of misjudgmens. Veterans like that need to be taken behind the shead. That’s treason. To me. Medics in the field must keep good records.soilders depend on them for treatment and keeping records to help not hurt. In the… Read more »
Doc
Doc
About the racist remarks your so wrong and you offend more that BO in the way you expressed yourself! On common since when dealing with the FUBAR VA since 1968 because of a head wound that put a 2 square inch hole in my head plus a few pieces of shrapnel and a stay in various U.S. Army hospitals for about one year I received in May 14th, 1967 in an ambush while serving with the 1st Bde 1/327 Abn… Read more »
James
Your right and I also have a TBI and the VA refuses to make it service connected. Even when the records proved I had been shot in the head. Keep putting in for that disability.maybe some day.our elected officials will see the light and do the right thing by veterans. The VA seems to think all veterans are lieing.when in fact the VA has been lieing to veterans.citizens our government officials and themselves. Yes many nationalities have fought for this… Read more »
crazy elf
crazy elf

Well said Doc! I wouldn’t be here today if not for a (black) Corpsman who only carried his medical kit, a Bible and a folding knife!

We do not need racist remarks on this site. We’re all veterans, or spouses of veterans, or friends of veterans!
Our “mission” is to root out corruption, then expose it to the proper agencies.
If that can’t be done, then we lose!

Sunshine

Hopefully everyone who believes the Veterans Affairs and Veterans Medical Centers is doing wrong please put your beliefs in Local Newspaper plus called your Congressional Leaders I know as a Veteran I have been doing that. …….Semper Fi…please reply ..

crazy elf
crazy elf

Sunshine, our newspapers, TV and radio stations are mostly owned by liberal democrats who are part of the problem.
Our Congressional and Senatorial members have proven themselves unable, or unwilling, to get those at VA to follow any semblance of laws or regulations.
We, on here, have tried, unsuccessfully in a majority of cases, to force VA employees to do what they are required!
If you have any more ideas. I’m sure we would like to ‘hear’ them.

Sunshine

crazy elf what is the name of your Local Newspaper I can check it to see if I can put a Classified AD my belief how to improve Veterans Healthcare. …..Semper Fi ….Thanks.

crazy elf
crazy elf

@Sunshine
Our two newspapers are;
1.) The Daytona Beach News Journal
2.) Orlando Sentinel

Good luck.

Frank Calderon
Dear Mr. Krause: I believe if those people working the Department of Veterans Affairs, are not able to read nor understand those Veteran’s records they have no business holding the positions they should resign or be terminated; how can they serve the veterans fitfully if they do not understand what the government puts out as evidence of a man’s former service to his country. They should be forced to resign or quit, until thy go to school and learn to… Read more »
Sunshine

Frank Calderon I read what your message my belief telled your Congressman your belief remember a pen is stronger than a sword…….Semper fi

namnibor

Folks, we are on official Troll Alert. Seems an obvious Troll of the VA variety called “Spotted D!ck”, calling Veterans “posers”…

Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
Reading these comments is disgusting. So many hateful people here have nothing good at all to say about the VA. My husband is a Vietnam Veteran and he has had wonderful treatment at the VA. They have been better than any civilian hospital he has ever been in. They supplied him with 2 top-of-the-line hearing aids and they even send him batteries. He’s had a heart operation and recovered very well and now they supply him with meds to keep… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
It’s unfortunate for thousands of veterans who cannot get proper medical that you think your husband’s care is the same treatment all of us are getting. I am happy your husband is getting the care he needs and has earned, but that is certainly not the case for everyone. If it were, there would not be thousands of veterans living on the streets, nor so many veterans committing suicides. If you consider that bitching about the VA, so be it.… Read more »
Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
91 Vet, when my husband goes for his appointments there are others vets there and all they do is complain about the VA. In the meantime, they are getting good treatment, just like him, but they just like to complain. Some of those homeless vets are that way because they choose that life. My husband never got into the drugs that a lot of them do. Also, you seriously cannot blame all of the suicides on the VA! I read… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
HA! You’re quite a hoot Beenie…so secure in your version of facts and so sure that Obama has been such a savior rather than the bumbling fool he is in reality. With your comments, I can see why he was elected twice. But, you keep on believing all veterans are just whiners and like to complain. You fit right in with Obama’s thinking. He was the first president ever to propose veterans wounded in battle pay for our own health… Read more »
crazy elf
crazy elf
@Beenie Baby 1.) the VA has been caught numerous times committing fraud, waste and abuse by such “watchdog groups” as; VA-OIG, Judicial Watch, Military dot com etc., etc., etc.! These “watchdog groups” can’t keep up with the many egregious acts committed against veterans by VA employees! 2.) As far as my, and others, statements toward this current POTUS. Everyone of my statements are true and factual. They come from such reveered news sources, such as; The Wall Street Journal, Military… Read more »
Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
@crazy elf Yes, I am aware that the media is owned by a few corporations, but what on earth makes you think they are liberal? In case you haven’t noticed, businesses in the US are mainly helped by Republicans, with less regulation and NO taxes, etc. So these media businesses are not liberal, by any means. FOX is media and not liberal. I still maintain you are not getting your information from CREDIBLE websites and only want to complain about… Read more »
James
Explain why so many veterans are being denied their compensation and left alone to fight ptsd on their own. Explain how a person with a TBI must live with it and only finding out 40 years later. 40 years of no treatment 0.do you have any idea what happens to veterans who have PTSD and a traumatic brain injury and are refused treatment.called a lier.not knowing why they feel they way they do. VA hiding veterans military records that had… Read more »
James
Really. 1970 to1973 active duty volunteered.shot in the head. Sought treatment for ptsd.denighed. VA needs more proof of being shot in the head. No treatment for ptsd for over forty years.VA stating your records were destroyed in the st Louis ?. Lie.discharged after the ? and fourty years later and spending 40 thousand dollars to hire a lawyer to find out the VA had been lieing about my records being in the ?. Suffered 40 years waiting for treatment.just to… Read more »
Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby

I don’t understand why so many veterans insist that republicans are the ones to vote for. They do not help veterans! This present congress has done nothing for you, but President Obama gets the blame. This republican congress has voted down every bill put forth to help veterans. Here’s a good article about it.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/11/republicans-congress-dishonoring-americas-veterans.html

Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
Keep voting Republican and you’ll never get any help. Happy Veterans Day? 5 Times Republicans in Congress Screwed Veterans James Woods | November 11, 2015 ________________________________________ Today is the 61st celebration of Veterans Day in America, when we celebrate the service of all U.S. military veterans. Originally proclaimed Armistice Day by Woodrow Wilson in 1919 to commemorate the end of the first World War and to honor all who served in that war, it was changed to Veterans Day in… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

So much for reading credible news sources.

namnibor

HA HA! Was thinking exact same thing. Loved the commen about knowing how our POTUS was elected twice 🙂 🙂

Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby

@91 vet
All 5 points are easily verifiable if you care to find out. Individual votes by each representative are online for each bill that was presented.

namnibor

There you all went and fed the trolls… 🙁

Bill
Bill

Buddy letters from his dead comrades??? Seems I may be having problems when I submit my claim.

Beenie Baby
Beenie Baby
@91 Vet Would Obama Have Soldiers Pay for Own War Injuries? • By Justin Bank • Posted on May 12, 2009 | Updated on Sept. 25, 2009 634 Q: Did Obama accuse veterans of “selfishness” and whining? Would he have forced them to “pay for their war injuries”? A: This chain e-mail contains fabricated quotes and misrepresents a budget idea that the White House scrapped. The quotes were intended as satire. FULL QUESTION This e-mail is circulating. What is the… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Seriously Beenie, if you want to refute something, it would be much better to cite credible sources other than a raving leftist, excuse making site such as Factcheck. They have been well known to highlight things they believe support their position while ignoring facts that don’t. Their entire article wants the reader to believe this issue was nothing more than some paranoid conspiracy theory made up from an email floating around the internet. You, like them, choose sources that support… Read more »
namnibor

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

namnibor

I think Beenie has drank so much of that drivel Kool-Aid that this poster is as toxic as a Jim Jones ‘Party Punch’ in Guyana.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I was thinking the same namnibor. So blinded by kool aid that clear facts are ignored.

namnibor

It’s unfortunate more people do not now how to utilize Critical Thinking and gain one’s information from a plethora of sources instead of tunnel vision fanaticism.
More and more I find more facts of even what’s really going on in the current War Theaters via BBC, and the same goes for the USA’s political climate.

Obama and his “Change You Can Believe In” Kool-Aid is still being poured freely apparently to maintain that tunnel vision point of view.

91Veteran
91Veteran

What’s most concerning to me namnibor is that even people you expect to be old enough to know better will reject clear facts provided into them in favor of their unicorns and rainbows vision.
It is dangerous for the country that so many people think like that because they will willingly give up everything to continue that belief, or continue their gravy train regardless of what it does to the country.

James
You guys heard.recruitment for active duty volunteers for the military.has dropped qreatly. Our young men and women do not want to join the military.knowing what the department of Veterans Affairs is doing to veterans. Pretty soon.they will have no choice but to bring the draft into play. Then and only then will the public take action or this country will be under marshal law or we will be attacked by another country. Maybe that’s the VA and others way of… Read more »
Arnold Cabral

Can a Veteran answer this question can a Veteran Medical Center Police Officer come in a Veteran Patient Advocate Office to hear what a Veteran and what a Veteran Patient Advocate is saying to each other.

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