VA Credits TV Screen Telemedicine With Fixing Wait List

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New Mexico VA credits a slight decrease in wait list times to recent use of TV screens instead of in person doctors through new telemedicine type webinars with patients.

In 2014, New Mexico VA had 11 percent of its patients waiting longer than 30 days. That number is now down to 7 percent now that VA has replaced live doctors with television screens performing webinars with patients from many miles away.

TELEMEDICINE FIXED WHAT?

“SUN” wrote an interesting article on the subject titled “Wait Times at Veterans Administration Improve; Telemedicine in Play”.

Now there was something strange about the New Mexico VA article. It would seem from the title that VA is doing a great job busting down on the wait list issue. But the majority of the content of the article is about problems veterans are still facing from the wait list.

So what gives?

Why would the title highlight that VA is improving without also highlighting that many veterans still go without timely access to care?

I would have titled it, “VA Switches Out Real Doctors For TV Screens To Fix Wait List.” Or something like, “Wait Times Still Plague New Mexico VA.”

Looks like VA is at least winning the press war even if wait list times are only improving through telemedicine.

The article published a curious comment, “With the scandal now two years in the rearview mirror, however, the VA says things are looking up for the state’s vets.”

Rear view mirror, eh?

Source: http://www.riograndesun.com/articles/2016/07/27/news/doc578fd9d9bc7eb633434957.txt

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Iratevet24601
Iratevet24601

If some medical practice of repute out in the world (real) were to try that their reputation would rapidly become nil. Non-vets would not stand for it. Private citizens wouldn’t. We are veterans and because of that status we are seen as a sub par class disgusting.

Chris
Chris

Um, almost every major medical provider has telehealth now. What are you talking about?

namnibor
namnibor

Yes, but the major difference is in the private sector you can CHOOSE if you want to deal with that or not. At the VA it will be forced down Veteran’s throats and the VA never does anything half-assed, rather, it will be more of the hacks you cannot understand anything they say in-person, so how is that going to translate via video? Subtitles in English?
As 91veteran has wondered, how is the Veteran to obtain an immediate copy of the medical visit and how will you even know if they wrote anything pertinent down or even the right stuff? For instance, I can easily see the VA using crappy video cameras where the image is reversed so if you have a right leg or arm needing examined, the window will be wide open for them to get the wrong limb…they get this wrong in-person and have even amputated many a wrong limb even when a Vet uses a Sharpie to write ‘X’ marks the spot.

You can give the most advanced equipment and tech to the most egregious idiot and may as well have gone to your local zoo and asked the gorilla in the cage to examine you.

The VA should FIX their huge problems in-house and abroad firstly before dabbling into Telemedicine as the VA’s IT is currently around 1985 and could easily see the VA hiring technicians on other side of screen that only have part of -1- eye working. Scared? Yep. My cat can evaluate me just fine.

91Veteran
91Veteran

You know on the plus side nam, telemedicine would likely greatly reduce the amount of infections and other diseases passed from veteran to veteran because the VA often can’t manage to properly sterilize equipment.
Just think of the porn they could pass back and forth between staff?
Speaking of which, imagine a female vet being forced to use this for a gynecological exam.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

91Veteran,
I can definitely see porn being spread among those employees. Especially if there’s really attractive female vets being “examined in the raw”!
There’s so many negative aspects concerning this issue. It will be hard to pin anyone down for a criminal complaint against the perpetrators!

namnibor
namnibor

91Veteran– I was NOT even going to go there but you surely did. As far as the infections go, you quickly forget that unless each Vet when finished in the Telemedicine Orgasmatron is instructed to sanitize after each visit, *someone* still would have to keep the area sanitized, as people such as I with seriously compromised immune systems can get MRSA or C-DIFF just by sitting in any VA open waiting area, let alone a Telemedicine Orgasmatron. No thanks. Been there and done that. My very last experience with the VA indeed gave me C-DIFF *and* MRSA and after spending a good year and half in and out of private medical hospital using then- State Medicaid, my private Specialists that I still have using Medicare warned me my life was literally at risk if I continued to use the quacks at VAMC, whom blew-off my Gastro Specialist, with the VA having the attitude that MANY people get said infections, wash your hands. No, YOU wash your hands and this facility!

I see so many ways the VA can get this gravely wrong. The VA Porn Collection is about to get larger, indeed. Remember last year the VA OIG Mister Masturbator in the ALL GLASS conference rooms that suddenly was forced to retire? See where I am going? No thanks.

I would take my chances and randomly drive-up to a fast food order window and get a much better qualified exam and a Happy Meal Ending to boot. 🙂

namnibor
namnibor

Also, who the HELL wants to allow the VHA access to your personal computer if Telemedicine is being served at home? My black duck tape remains on my webcam for a reason.
What if the VHA decides to experiment with subliminal messages in the video feed? You know, to eliminate their problems? Paranoid? Maybe a little but there’s a good reason such movies as “The Manchurian Candidate” was made.
Another great movie showing the shadowy nature of VHA and DoD and Medicine is “Jacob’s Ladder”. A very disturbing movie but we should never forget what we have done to our own Troops and Vets and continue to do so ALL in the name of Research.

No thanks.

Bob
Bob

What are you talking about Chris?
Are you a Veteran or a VA Robot?

This System sounds more like R2 SCREW YOU! for Veterans

T
T

I’ve posted on this telejunk before. All it does or will do is to serve the corrupt VA, the staff, the college students, interns, VA and the contractors high tech staff, and of course the special interest groups that want to throw wrenches into anything that in starting out may have good intentions.

For one we were told that our physical meeting groups had to go to telehealth because of the racial dynamics not being diverse enough. Then all in the telegroups seen our CBOC was all white men attending so again the hospital crew/activist from Indy reported ‘diversity issues’ like we can do anything to control such things or attendance.

Going the way of telehealth still didn’t appease certain feminist like a X marine sergeant that demanded her and others not be included in groups with males. They, she, wanted female only group/telehealth settings. Whatever happened about that I don’t know. I stopped doing groups and telehealth stuff all together since it seemed it was all about control and moderating the discussions and topics, and being totally PC, VA positive only.

I would suggest people look this up on U tube and research it.
USA Prepares Show (AUDIO) Tuesday 7/26/16: Engineered Diseases Special Report #1

The VA computer techs, their contractors, CBOC admin can already control, change, and delete whatever they desire, and did on my own Healthy E-vet website. Deleted everything I was dealing with over our local CBOC and their entire crew of wrong doers to the activist that seem to fill VA positions.

Then using the teleconference or telehealth junk there are those diagnosing and putting crap in our files from people I have never met, known about, or really know me or my health problems, or demeanor/body language during such meetings. Not to mention how they nit-pick certain things they want to use, make themselves look so great, leave other things out, and make us look like idiots putting words or comments in our files that supposedly came out during such sessions that were never said.

The entire system is a joke as I am finding our civilian care isn’t much better here. Seems the powers that be all need changing, all of it.

T
T

Forgot. Indiana passing more stupid laws by the powers that be don’t help matters. Such as this… “HB 1263 telemedicine certifications for out-of-state physicians and their employers”

What’s next? All health care will be by telejunk and on a global scale by whoever? I’d rather see a Shaman or some healer from the Amazon jungle from what I’ve been through. Pity they probably don’t have computer acces, and I can’t afford to move to the jungles for better care and available treatments. Instead of relying on big Pharma and the Feds for tyrannical fascist greedy care.

We try to contact Time Warner Cable here for troubles and end up talking to someone in Uruguay. (!!!!???) Local phone number has been cancelled.

redturtle984
redturtle984

At last progress!!! We can finally dispense wih the notion that veteran healthcare will no longer be available to vets at the VA!!!

Now VA can ensure that all veterans who are sick and need care have the most advanced diagnostic techniques outside of e iHealth App for iPhones, that they wont even have to travel OR be i cell phone range to live! Obviously with our current generation of VA staff it has become mecessary to provide English subtitles. With a modest investment of just a few billion dollars, VA is confident that our staff of social workers will be able to provide linguistic closed captioning services to translate from the native languages of our fine medical staff.

Medical staff benefit too because they would no longer have to travel from their ciuntry of origin to practice their skills on American veterans. When this pilot program of remote medicine demonstrates the anticipated results (RAND 2016) then there is no reason we cannot roll it out for other services too. Preemptive informational studies have already been done proving system effectiveness in advance using Complex Matrix Transforms.

We could provide remote televised veteran burials too, shich is mighty handy after a televised surgery. It would save a ton of money and it seems our budget is getting stretched thin in this area. A TV set up at gravesight would comfort the family AND save America and VA more of the icky cleanup tsmelly dead veterans make. VA would become sanitary, a huge and much anticipated benefit.

In my dreams I envision the day when all veteran services can be provided at the information kiosk at the mall. Emergency rooms would obviously have to be staffed with their own information kiosks. I am hoping for a veteran medical dispensary kiosk at the Mall right next to Cinnabon . Most VA employees I have met hang out at places like that and studies show a cinnomin bun has a statistically better chance of improving quality of life for veterans versus traditional veteran healthcare (RAND, lunchtime).

What do
I think?

It’s a win/win deal!

namnibor
namnibor

Well-stated, redturtle 984.

Do not forget that all the kiosks at Disney while waiting in line for one of McDonald’s rides a Vet will be able to have their telemedicine dose right there.

TeleFunerals….LOL…just spit coffee all over desk laughing. Thanks, needed those endorphins. Also, do not forget that then the VA Disruptive Committee will eventually have a live feed via your TV or computer’s webcam to be able to watch your every movement. (that would promptly make me place said webcam looking-up from deep in my toilet bowl to give them my own brown eye camera onslaught) 🙂

91Veteran
91Veteran

Yeah I can see it now. A vet having to complain to a TV repairman who tells him he has to complain to the cable company because they screwed up his prescription.
I can also see a vet being required to log in to a VA web site for some AFGE flunky led exercise in order to get certain prescriptions. No record of video showing the vet exercised, no prescription.
…along with pictures of every meal sent to VA dieticians to make sure the vet is eating according to their standards.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

91Veteran,
Don’t forget, when your talking to the repair persons, they’ll probably be outsourced to the Philippines or India or some other third world nation.

T
T

Very good one! I’d like to televise my dead butt in the air with a sign, or tats, saying KISS IT. Then they can shove me in the easy bake oven. I bet my arm lifts in the last act of defiance with my middle finger sticking up for the Tele-heads to see.

Odd though. At the pharmacy a couple days ago and some college students were there on their cell phones (of course) talking about some new tele-tech type stuff where we can have sex using that tech, holograms now available, and devices to be used to mimic real sexual activities, and with the woman of your dreams on the monitor and by a hologram right there with you like in person. However those things function in real life standing there. Beats me. I mean, baffles me.

Can’t find anything on google about it and don’t really know what to put into the search box to find such equipment. LOL

Indiana will be last for anything positive or for the good. But sure enough we/they will pass the new laws allowing all states and the world to use such high tech on us. Like this new bill, law, allowing for out of state trainees and practitioners to use tele-health for our care. Of course this is another issue that was tested and started at through the VA and ended up trickling out to civilian care now. People will stand for such things like this and constant blood screens, socialist styled health care, and such for vets they will allow for it through propaganda and laws to be allowed on them in the end.

Try to have a good day out there.

T
T

Yep, good stuff and I can relate. I also know after seeing all the negatives and despair, and losses, that being alone in today’s new global society or in ornery villages, is not a good thing even though I do value being somewhat of a hermit now, or recluse after many years of playing care giver, social butterfly taking care of all others, then having no-one left to help me in any manner much at all. Odd, no-one left to take care of the care taker in a throw away society where compassion, empathy, sympathy, etc., is at an all time low, nearly extinct. Noone left to trust, and the VA sure didn’t help matters, neither is the civilian care or phony ‘community’ stuff on TV. Of course my many political enemies here wouldn’t pee on me if I was on fire. That includes elected officials to the many members of the special interest groups, globalist, the youth today, and anti-American anti-Veteran members too. I chalk it all up to providence, fate, or having “Murphy’s Law” curses put on me somewhere along the line. lol

Then to knowing the damage high tech has done to us, for the negative, they keep pushing more on us dissolving the language of the heart and of that possible physical healing touch. Certain agendas are plowing ahead full speed ahead and like Oprah said “the old just need ot die off.” So the younger brain-washed can take over since academics have socially engineered them to know best and what is best for us…supposedly.

namnibor
namnibor

What the VA more than likely is misinterpreting (or redefining) in that 4% decrease in wait times with Telemedicine is that, to the benefit of the VA, that 4% *reduction* were the Vets that were in the daily 22 Vets committing suicide each and every day in USA, thus the “reduction” was more than likely a reduction of Vets opting to NOT use the VA or were coerced into setting themselves on fire by VA Hacks on the other side of screen combined with VA Subliminal Programs more than likely being also utilized in Telemedicine at VHA, a bit like very last 10 mins. of movie, “A Clockwork Orange”.

VA is not good at Math because it’s hard. Is this 4% reduction to be filed right up there with the other recent announced reduction according to VA of daily Veteran Suicides to 21 instead of 22? Not buying it. Only laying the groundwork for the VA to do LESS with MORE. (instead of the other conservative way around)

I am also suspect that this will somehow be used to push their replacement of M.D.’s with Nurse Practitioners at VA. Psych Care should always be one on one with a real physician, not someone that sees you as a quotient metric for acquiring a non-performance bonus without having any working relationship in a consecutive care way, meaning the Vet will be forced to re-experience and hash out stressors each and every time because of no working relationship with patient nor any room for a Vet to feel SAFE.

I call horse hockey on these touted reductions. Definitely an ulterior motive with telemedicine at VA.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Ulterior motive? Absolutely. How many vets go to a small CBOC or small VA hospital that does not have the staff of a large VA hospital?
No you cannot have that Choice appointment because you have a telemedicine appointment.
No you cannot be referred to that specialist at the large VA hospital, because we don’t want to pay your travel, and besides, you have a telemedicine appointment.
Is that telemedicine appointment recorded and accessible as a record by the veteran?

Telemedicine suggests a 2 way conversation with some quack at another VA. My reality was different.
After knee replacement surgery, I had a rash about the size of your hand on the side of my knee. It kept getting worse over at least 9 months after the surgery, if not longer.
I finally convinced the VA to provide a consult to dermatology to see if it was an infection or some other problem. My ortho doctor did the consult a couple weeks after my nurse practitioner primary care provider falsified my paperwork claiming I reported no skin problems. I showed her the rash during the appointment. She then lied in response to the Chief of Staff claiming I never did so.
Anyway, my VA does not have a dermatologist, and no referral to a larger VA was mentioned, so they set up a telemedicine appointment. The appointment was by 2 technicians who pointed a camera at it, then took additional still pictures. I was notified a few days later that it was not an infection, after never speaking with a medical professional before or after the appointment.
In a phone call to the technicians, whoever was in the other end told them to try take a scraping of the skin so they could test it. No test results were provided.

For all know the “dermatologist” on the other end was a file clerk.

namnibor
namnibor

…or just a clerk with a file to rub said infections in a virtual kind of way. What a crock. Just when you thought there was no way for the VA to get any worse…BUT, the RAND Corp. says it’s good, and the VA concurs.

Had you had gangrene infection would they have activated and opened a closet in the Telemedicine Booth that supplied you with a chainsaw? You know, for amputation?

This Telemedicine Booth sort of dances around in my brain as Woody Allen’s “Orgasmatron” in a very early movie of his called “Sleepers”. Minus the oboe.

redturtle984
redturtle984

In high school as a Junior I found myself with one elective class left to choose. Mom and Dad loved working with wood so woodshop was out lolz. I chose the credit class that gave credit for being a teachers assistant in the special education class which was set aside for a few of my friends that had severe cognitive disabilities.

One elective class. One chance occurance in our world was presented to me and fate gifted me that year the greatest gift a teenage boy could ever hope for. I was gifted compassion, and the the only retardedness I saw after that in school was in the hallways outside that room. To this moment I am still fond of that room.

I believe that compassion was gifted to me because it is the way of God in my view to gift that which is needed also by others. The folks at school really did not need an extra hand every day in that room; the folks inside the room needed a face and a hug. They needed somebody their own age to ask things they needed to know. I think it is when I could no longer avert their gaze, when I had to look them straight in they eye that everything changed for me.

I think in that moment they stopped being objects that just got in my hurried way between classes and they became human beings. I lost all taste for humor at their expense and in returned learned to be human. I learned to care.

This move away from eye to eye contact, breathing the same air and smelling the same things is a move away from what I learned to be the most human of actions. It is a move away from the human touch. Of all the things that PTSD is, the thing that literally kills is lonliness. I learned that most cognitive impairment in no way impairs the feelings of lonliness, despair, or hurt. I also learned that the fix, for this even if temporary, can come from a trouble smart ass teen who just has to be put close enough to those folks to touch them. He was just put close enough to care.

It makes no sense to rely on technolology that sets sick people apart from human touch and still call it “care”.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I would bet you also learned a different kind of disgust or anger at those who would take advantage of that compassion.

Bill
Bill

Welll it will sure save on gas to get to them. I mean I-quackery performed over I’net and I-death, sounds like a plan.

They will certainly get the daily sucide rate down as the can I-murder you with little to no infrastructure, no drive time hell you wont even need a nurse who flinked the couse on insering needles.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I’d say the VA is definitely getting their $25 million worth of “Public Relations”!
I wonder how long it will be for that firm(s) to ask for more taxpayers monies?

As far as today’s blog. Down here in Florida, ‘telecommunications on healthcare’ has taken off as well. Not only are they using television to diagnose and view vets. The PCP’s are now “diagnosing veterans over the telephone!”
I guess, the use of “after hours nursing”, (Tel-Care), is going to be the norm from now on. Especially during regular normal business hours! Whatever those are!
My last appointment with my PCP was over the phone. She asked; “What can I do for you today?”
My response was, “If you can’t “see” me, how can you diagnose anything?”
“Silence” – complete silence on the other end!
Is this what its come to? Is this the “New World Order” of things to come?
We live in scary times my brothers and sisters!

redturtle984
redturtle984

I Oregon it is legal and even advisable to record a home phone conversation if a record of the conversation is required. I live in Oregon. My voicemail announces that all conversations will be recorded. VHA documented in multiple locations in my med record their refusal to speak with me if I excersized this First Ammendment right.

Incredibly, the DIsruptive Behaviour Committee talked on the phone to me four times, necause it took four tries for him to finally say what the Chief Of Staff required of me to remove my Cat One Violent Flag put onto me after a Restraining Order was served on VA.

He informed me, recording available, that the conditions for removal included my consent to no longer record my home phone calls. Consent to no longer make complaint (civil rights, privacy act, or otherwise) unless authorized by him. All my care, I was to agree, would be coordinated through him.

Sounds cozy so far, right? Telemedicine on display and .i have four recordings of official DBC telemedicine. But the good part is this; I asked him in the recordings to tell me if he had any knowledge of any time I had EVER caused a disruption while on VA property. He said no. hmmmmm mmmmm mmmmm mmmm. no?

This was unheard of in my experience!!! In over three years and dozens of mails from my congressman, reporters, and all manner of concerned folk, a VA official allowed themselves to give a yes or no answer! Proof telemedicine works!

As reported in the last call I made to him, recorded and he accepted, I told him that I was not willing to dispense with my rights under our Comstitution in exchange for medical care. I to,d him to take that message to the Chief Of Staff, Dr. B.C., a native of Kenya, and inform the Dr. that negotiations had failed. I have seen many allegations online about VA. I have the recordings to prove it. The DBC chairmain has been retired. Allowing yourself to tell the truth and be recorded is a fast track career choice…

Telemedicine of DBC is already practiced. Sound like a good deal?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@redturtle984
I would say it could/MIGHT be worth it – IF we, as veteran patients, and as some private care physicians are doing here in Florida, could record our conversations or videotape healthcare appointments!
Problem we have here is, even when one calls VA – there is NO informing to anyone the conversation is being recorded!
It doesn’t matter if VA personnel is calling you or visa versa!
Not one sentence about recordings!

redturtle984
redturtle984

Wouldn’t it be fun to see if VA, a cabinet level branch that operates outside of normal jurisprudence would be allowed to compell enforcement of State Law in Florida? After all there is zero any Florida State official can do about VA. The highest elected official (not the most stoned) in any state has zero authority when they step over the imaginary line in democracy’s faery land called VA property.

It seems to me that getting the police to go get you and do bad things to you might be a tough chore if for only that odds are the police are vets too, and the VA police have their own wait list scandal going from the overload of Disruptive Patient Flags.

I somehow just got hungry for donuts.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@redturtle984
Do you remember that vet up in Idaho earlier this year. Where VA uppers and VA police tried to confiscate his weapons?
It didn’t turn out to good for VA, when there were MANY Representatives; ie: law enforcement, Congressmen (from Idaho and Washington state) and friends standing on his front porch. When VA reps showed up!

That’s the kind of representation we need nationwide!

91Veteran
91Veteran

Again I ask, what kind of medical record is generated when the appointment is by telephone or telemedicine?

When a serious mistake is made, what record can the vet access to show the mistake?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“What access?” – Absolutely NONE! That’s exactly what the VA wants. Complete deniability!

Iratevet24601
Iratevet24601

Make POTUS and EVERY member of our government use VA see how they like it, and I ain’t talking VA rich bitch edition either

namnibor
namnibor

Unfortunately, I would see the same crap happen that ALL Members of Congress did in conveniently making themselves EXTEMPT from OBAMACARE.
Now, don’t you think that HAD they been required to use the same damn healthcare exchanges as common ‘Joe’, it would have served as an additional checks and balances/accountability? I do, but members of congress obviously wanted caviar with their patient wait time. 🙂

Same goes for VA and ALL VA Employees. Even if they were TOLD or MANDATED to use the VHA, those weasels and their AFGE Union Thugs would simply ignore it, just like they do with everything else they do in a Thug Way.

I agree that they should ALL utilize same care we Vets get and no “VA Rich Bitch Edition”. And no going to Maryland. ALL must use their respective home State’s medical at VAMC’s…..but that is that VA Kryptonite called Accountability, which is the V.A. Titanic’s iceberg.

Funny how the DNC is all negative about Trump’s comment off the cuff towards Russia finding Hillary’s “lost” emails, when just a day or so ago Pres. Obama was suggesting he could negotiate with freaking terrorists Isis. See how that works?

Thugs, all of the lot. Rat Bastards.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Hey redturtle984

Here’s something interesting, out from “military.com” this morning.
“Both VP Candidates have Marine Corps Sons”

Did you see what happened at the DNC last night? Few knew what “Semper Fi” stood for! From what I heard, many booed that term! Disgusting!
All the idiots could do was scream “No More War!”

What will their sons do after enlistment? They’ll use private healthcare for the rich and famous!

redturtle984
redturtle984

I cannot personally vouch that I have been associated with the brightest candles on the cake while an active duty member of Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children, but I can tell you that even the slime balls and publicly educated are the guys and girls you want in your foxhile when the shit hits the fan.

Semper Fi

Iratevet24601
Iratevet24601

I just hope the murph beside me knows where the fine line between hardcore and stupid is

redturtle984
redturtle984

Maines only shoot stupid people. No worries.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I agree 110% on wanting the “misquided children” to help those who need help.
The Marine Chopper Pilots helped me and mine out of more than a few scraps.
When they came to the rescue, their “skids” took off the tops of more than a few trees.
Thanks Brothers!

Iratevet24601
Iratevet24601

The one that would get my support would be the one whose son enlisted, not either of those when it is obvious that daddy bought their degrees and their commissions just because it helps said daddy’s career. Give me a candidate whose child is ACTUALLY going to be in harms way. Not some desk jockey with a silver spoon up his ass because invariably that will be where his head is too.

91Veteran
91Veteran

The headline has little reality to it based on the article.
I find it interesting one veteran was complaining about not being able to get a dental appointment, and Dreike talks about telemedicine.
How can that vet get his teeth fixed using a TV and camera?
I also find it interesting that a veteran complains about the time it takes to get a Choice appointment, and Dreike responds with veterans contacting the Patient Advocates 2 hours away, but then never mentions the “Choice Champions” that most VAs hired to supposedly help vets with that disaster.
Things may be looking up, but I picture a veteran looking up at a TV screen waiting for his name to show up to be called for his telemedicine appointment for Physical Therapy.
Finally, I wonder what little Cox thinks of his AFGE flunkies being replaced with non dues paying TV’s.

namnibor
namnibor

“How can that vet get his teeth fixed using a TV and camera?”

Simple. The VA hacks will have ready in the Telemedicine Booth a pair of pliers and a piece of wormwood to bite into if the pain is too much to bear while following 1985 VA Tech Diagrams on screen and if you mess-up, STILL no liability. However, no mirrors will be allowed aside from the one way mirror the Hacks will be ‘observing’ you to determine if they can lower your disability based on following the witch Dr.’s instructions from his faraway hut in Nigeria. 🙂

Psych Appointments via Telemedicine will provide all tools needed to eliminate any problem via ‘self-therapy’. -Lighter, and some form of combustion accelerator agent.

“Choice Champions” were likely hired to pad those required Union Dues. Not so much for intended purposes. Just like Patient AdvoCunts.

Do these clowns even realize that making a perhaps already lonely and isolated Vet feel even more disconnected via VA Psych Care Telemedicine will likely incur more harm than intended good?

91Veteran
91Veteran

Realizing it never crossed their minds because they just do not care enough to put any thought into whether the vet has a positive experience.

Bill
Bill

Exactly…they tried ti shove thst down my throat…my solution is i fired ALL VA shrinks…i am not sure they understood why, as all that I have had graduated ali babba U.

redturtle984
redturtle984

I once saw a professional wrestler fix the teeth of an extremely rude photographer who shoved a camera into his face at an emotional charged and unfortunate moment. He actually used the photographers camera to do it, so it is possible to fix teeth with a camera. A new grin with every smile.

Hey VHA! I heard Hulk Hogan give all kinds of on screen health advice to his fellows! Perhaps a confab between tthe two organizations?

Iratevet24601
Iratevet24601

@ namnibor can I have your permission to use “AdvoCunts” it hits the nail spot on.

js03
js03

In order to make what is obvious absent, just omit it. The truth is only relative to those who know it.

JOHN D REIGLE
JOHN D REIGLE

Read in a couple of the responses about doctors, etc. not recording or not correctly recording information that the vet gives to them. I had that happen to me at my initial C&P exam which I believe is what caused my claim to be denied. So, what do I do? I filed an NOD and have already had my DRO hearing but the DRO didn’t impress me at all. He stated that the doctors don’t have to record what you tell them. All they are supposed to do is observe. I pointed out to him various places in the rules where it stated that they are supposed to record what the veteran states. Awaiting decision now. Any other suggestions?

91Veteran
91Veteran

So to get a proper rating, a veteran should describe how that disability affects their daily activity.

If a C&P doctor is not required to record that, how will the veteran get a proper rating?

You can bet your ass the quack would record if you said that an injury has little effect on your daily life.

You should put that in writing to that rating official. Something like, I am trying to understand what you said, and wanted to be clear, during my hearing, you said X. Can you please confirm that as accurate.
By the way, I thought a hearing before a DRO required a transcript. Why not request a copy of that transcript?

Jo3n
Jo3n

I do hope that Tele-doctor speaks English. What if it’s wrong? I just NEED a decent Dr. I am thoroughly lost with the VA. Whoever wins, I’m betting we’ll lose.

redturtle984
redturtle984

They likely speak it. Understanding it is the real challenge.

namnibor
namnibor

Also, imagine simply not understanding any of the VA Hack’s enunciation and kindly asking them to repeat what they just said and THAT being enough for the red button to be pushed, bringing the Disruptive Committee for a visit just because the fussy hack had his/her Ego bruised. Wait for it….or the green button that releases the “laughing gas”….or the Bruise Blue button that releases the trapdoor where the Vet is seated….

No thanks. However, I would LOVE to be able to trust the VA Medical. I really would but my own twisted experiences have taught me otherwise.

Ralph D Carmona Sr
Ralph D Carmona Sr

After the bulldshit Iv’e been through the VA WILL deal with me in person…or they’ll deal with me in fucking person. I’m done with the bullshit. Some person in front of a camera doesn’t fear getting they’re throats tore out right there on the spot. so fast they won’t have a chance to report you!!!

Reuben Castro Acosta
Reuben Castro Acosta

VA DEATHCARE DOES KILL VETS FOR THE BONOUS $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ @ VA DEATHCARE IS RUN BY @ FOR THE AFGE UNION CONTRACTS AGIN PENDEJO YO HAVE BEEN SCREWED BY DEATHE CRE FROM AFGE UNIN HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Viktoria
Viktoria

Well, here’s what I am going to do. I am going to print off Title 18, United States Code, subsection 1091 from the government printing office. Then, I am going to print off the Geneva Conventions of August 1949 Protocols and send it by mail to these quack V. A. doctors and psychiatrists. Then, I am going to asked them, ” What’s it like to be a highly paid genocidist and how do they feel about being brought into court for genocide and crimes against humanity in the near future?” I would highlight and star those pertinent laws to make them think twice about what they are doing. I would send them one every day until they got the point. No one can afford to answer to paychecks any longer. That will not be a valid excuse.

Roland P. Racicot
Roland P. Racicot

Oxnard ,Ca., VA uses the TV screens. My son OIF/Marine has PTSD and is acting different. I took him and his wife to the Vet Center in Ventura and he got a better response than the TV screen, which put him on a long wait list in WLA over 70 miles away.F*** the TV screens, I would rather try the Disneyland approach.

Lem
Lem

See a doctor once a year for re evaluation of chronic conditions and it is done by Telemedicine. What can the doctor see through a video camera. No robot to do a basic neurological exam. It is quackery at its heights.

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