VA Is Lying Billboard Announcement

VA Is Lying founder Ron Nesler is announcing the newest location for a VA Is Lying billboard in response to the lack of accountability and continued corruption at VA.

In his YouTube video to followers, Nesler identified three reasons he is restarting the VA Is Lying billboard campaigns: 1) Systemic VA Lying Persists; 2) Bad Promotion Of Agent Orange Denier Tom Murphy; 3) Unresolved Patient Advocate Conflict.

VA IS LYING FOUNDER ON YOUTUBE

In response to these problems, VA Is Lying is planning a publicity blast to shine further light on corruption and related cancers that persist within the agency’s walls. They decided to start putting up the billboards near Phoenix VA. I could not think of a better location given the total lack of empathy for veteran sand lack of accountability for wrongdoers that was exposed two years ago at the facility by CNN.

The Phoenix VA sign will be up for 90 days to raise awareness of persistent problems there.

LEARN MORE: https://www.facebook.com/groups/VA.is.LYING/

THREE REASONS FOR VA IS LYING BILLBOARD

As Nesler explains, “We did billboards last year to embarrass VA into working with veterans.” The billboards worked but VA has persisted in “lying to veterans, taxpayers and Congress.” He continued, “VA cannot be fixed so long as they are not telling the truth.”

He continued to explain that the recent promotion of Thomas Murphy to head Veterans Benefits Administration is “unacceptable” and “injurious” to Vietnam veterans due to Murphy’s position that Agent Orange did not cause harm to those veterans.

CONTRIBUTE: VA Is Lying Go Fund Me Campaign

Nesler’s third position focused on the corrupt patient advocate system. Nesler says his proposal, to move patient advocates out from under local VA administrators, would be a “minor, no cost” tweak that would affectively remove the inherent conflict of interest that exists.

The third platform involves an obvious conflict of interest fix that could improve accountability at all VA medical centers. It would move the chain of command for a patient advocate under VA Central Office instead of under the local VA head.

The reason this suggestion could be very effective is that it would remove oversight of the patient advocate out from under the administrators about whom veterans are complaining.

The present system is akin to Hillary Clinton being able to appoint, manage, hire and fire any investigator evaluating her corrupt Clinton Foundation. It would be a bad idea, and no doubt nothing would be found if she headed it up herself.

That is why Nesler’s third element of why the signs need to go up could be very effective. If VA removed the conflict of interest, the newly empowered patient advocates could possibly be able to tackle problems. Now, they merely placate to local administrators.

Phoenix VA seemed like the best VA to start with since corruption is still present at the facility even though many of the previous whistleblowers were paid off. Part of their settlements was to no longer bash VA.

But reports circulate even now that indicate Phoenix is still as corrupt as ever. So, a VA Is Lying billboard will go up in their backyard, again.

MORE ON PATIENT ADVOCATE SYSTEM CONFLICT

PHOENIX VA IS LYING BILLBOARD MESSAGE

“Good morning, this is Ron Nesler, founder and leader of the VA Is Lying Facebook group. I am here this morning to announce a new billboard campaign. We did billboards last year to embarrass VA into working with veterans.

“It seemed to have worked, but we are in a position now that we are going to do it again. We have got three reasons that we’re starting the billboards again.

“One of them is we are not getting any response at from VA on stopping the systemic lying to veterans, taxpayers and Congress. It is not stopping. It is not even slowing down. It has to stop. VA cannot be fixed so long as they are not telling the truth.

“The second reason we are starting the billboards again is the appointment of Thomas Murphy to be boss of all VA claims. This is unacceptable. Thomas Murphy denies that Agent Orange is harmful to veterans. He cannot be in charge of disability claims that include Agent Orange claims. This is injurious to veterans. And it is an insult to Vietnam veterans who have worked for 50 years to get recognition for the damage done by Agent Orange.

“Thomas Murphy has got to go.

“The third reasons that we are starting this is that we approached VA with minor, no cost tweaks to the patient advocate system that would take the patient advocates out from under the thumbs of the local administrators so that they can truly advocate for veterans. VA is refusing to do this. They refuse to talk about it.

“The way the patient advocate system is set up right now, when a veteran complains to a patient advocate, that patient advocate gets there job ratings and all of their career changes come from the same people veterans are complaining about.

“That clearly won’t work and we want it changed.

“Start expecting to see our billboards again, Monday, August 1st. I am not going to tell you right now where they are going to be, but that will be announced on the DisabledVeterans.org blog, by Ben Krause, in the next few hours.

“Find us, find our group, VA Is Lying group, we are on Facebook. We are the VA Is Lying Facebook group. Find us, talk to us, join us.”

What are your thoughts on the group? Would you include different reasons if you were the founder of a grassroots veterans group like Nesler?

WATCH IT: https://youtu.be/oQWXGRdFR0k

Don Avant

Taking PAs out from under local control and putting them directly under the National Office is an excellent idea. Unfortunately it makes to much sense fro the VA to even consider it…

redturtle984
With respect, taking e PA out from any chain of command is pointless if that person is still an AFGE member. Every month when an AFGE member pays dues, they reaffirm their vow and bond to the brotherhood to (from their website) “…watch each others back.” How can we reasonably assume that having made that commitment to the brotherhood that they would violate their oarh to AFGE by working against another brother? The basis of my assertion is from personal… Read more »
redturtle984
last thought; I did leave a message on the voicemail of the then PA after the clinic terminated all care owing to the flag. In frustration I said into his voicemail referring to the doctor, “…and tell that bitch to write me a prescription!” He emailed his response, “…your comment has been turned over to the Disruptive Behavior Committee for action.” Within a week I was placed in a mental ward to stabilize. I overdosed to die on morphine and… Read more »
Know Your Audience
Although I understand your reasons, I don’t think putting a poster in Phoenix makes much sense in this case: – If there were to be a move of patient advocates, that would have to come from VA central, not an individual hospital. He should be posting this sign in DC near THEIR office — this is about as effective as pulling a hair off your head to change the direction that you’re walking — pretty much pointless. – Murphy also… Read more »
redturtle984

You heard his voice clearly. Why do you assume the rest of America has not?

Know Your Audience

Only because I come and read this site periodically, I assume the rest of America does not. So no, they probably have no clue…

Kevin Phelps

KYA…….These billboards cost a lot of money. Phoenix was an excellent choice because they are The most “In the News” VA in the country. I am sure the DC billboard is coming one day when funds allow it.

Know Your Audience

@Kevin Phelps – you make a fair point. I’m just trying to aim the proverbial gun at the correct target. And Phx isn’t in the news as much as it once was, so it may not be as effective as it was in the past. Who knows…

91Veteran
You really didn’t read the article carefully did you? Nor do you understand the concept of fighting on multiple fronts. Let me try explain it. The VA lying is continuing, particularly at Phoenix where this whole scandal broke. Murphy is a different lie being told to veterans, and including him in this billboard campaign can cause attention to be drawn to that scandal. The Patient Advocates can be shown as doing nothing about the VA lying, or in fact participating… Read more »
redturtle984
And so KYA, in RAND like fashion my brother, you have concluded that this website is America sole source of information on those billboards by virtue of the data set you described as visiting this site occasionally. You then applied an anecdotal scaling transform matrix which included 200 million citizens. Please forward to VA immediately as evidence! While his idea may be an ego boost for Ben, let me posit the following notion – Washington DC was created for, is… Read more »
namnibor

You “assume” America is not listening or reading. Hmmmm! My college English Literature professor taught me this: When you ‘assume’, you are quite literally making an ASS in front of U and ME.

Trolls will be Trolls. Asses will be asses. Same difference, and if you knew anything about strategy, hitting multiple fronts at same time is what wins battles.

The Rat Bastards are certainly nervous on the V.A. Titanic.

Know Your Audience
RedTurtle – a simple Google search shows the scope of the information provided in this blog post … well, only here so far. So I don’t think your point is valid on that aspect. Your assessment about the population of workers in Washington DC is, in my estimation, pretty accurate. By extension, wouldn’t those who work subordinate to those in DC then be in the same general grouping? So your logic would then have us fight against one “head” of… Read more »
91Veteran

KYA, if you were familiar with the billboard campaign, which I believe you are given you work for the VA, you would know these billboards are being put up at multiple locations, not just Phoenix.
Multiple fronts.
As for your calling me out on other assertions, I believe I covered that in other comments on Patient Advocates lying.
But hey, you’re retired, go to a military base for care and work for the VA. And you’re here telling us we are all wrong.

Benjamin

@Know Your Audience – I see you are commenting from a VA IP address. I assume you work there. To put this issue to bed, Washington DC is very expensive and the VA Is Lying group has limited funds, unlike your employer, that spends tens of millions on positive press spin each year. Phoenix was less expensive with a large audience.

91Veteran

It would be nice to know that IP address. Somehow I believe it points right back to the Phoenix VA…likely a managers office.
One other thing KYA does not realize is that a billboard likely would not be allowed across from the VACO. Not because some flunky wouldn’t like it, but because it is likely banned by city ordinance.

Know Your Audience
@Benjamin – Posting from VA library computer actually, but regardless, doesn’t make my point less valid. I do get the point about the cost – totally understand that. Just don’t think it’ll be as much bang in Phoenix (where everyone is used to seeing the frequent hits and (I don’t think) they’re not as impactful anymore) as it would centrally. It’s not like his issues have a deadline — pump up the Go Fund Me and go big! I’ve been… Read more »
91Veteran
Regardless of how big the impact is, it will still have an impact. You being involved in PR should know this. Picture this…various media have likely gotten various talking points or have done various articles on the Phoenix VA from hacks telling them how good they are doing. The same media are seeing a new VA is Lying billboard go up and start to question veterans, only to find out the VA has rearranged the deck chairs and the PR… Read more »
91Veteran
Very sneaky KYA. You admit you work for the VA, so you go to the library to try dissuade a billboard from being installed outside your VA. You go to the library knowing your IP cannot be traced to anything other than a common use computer. You do this knowing it is inappropriate to use your computer to post on veterans web sites while on duty. Know Your Audience sounds like something a press relations person would think, yet you… Read more »
Benjamin

Hilarious…Guess where “Know Your Audience” works…

Phoenix VA…!!!
152.132.9.196

namnibor

@91Veteran and Ben–

That IP Address will take you directly to Satan’s Asshole. I smelled a Troll but was hesitant to call it out so did it coyly, but thanks for painting the roses red. 🙂

USAF mom
So that makes KYA’s opinion any less valid? The perspective from someone who said he/she a veteran and even agreed with the posting in general is invalid just because he/she is posting from a VA computer? AFAIC, put the billboard where ever you want – it’s not like it’s gonna make the VA shudder in fear and change anything. @Ben I think you’re an ass for that though — the person agrees with the concept, just not the execution. That… Read more »
91Veteran
This is the problem veterans face. Whether it be some veteran defending the VA claiming to get great care, while ignoring all those who are not, or another veteran donating his time, money and effort into reforming the VA, there are always going to be other veterans claiming they are doing things all wrong. Often by other veterans who don’t do much themselves to help their fellow veterans. As one who has donated to this billboard campaign, I am not… Read more »
Ronald Nesler

NOTE TO Know your Audience: Thank you, I really appreciate your interest and advice.

Know Your Audience

@Ronald – no problem, Just my thoughts — appreciate you listening.

redturtle984
What a unique perspective! Here I was waiting for Neslers announcement that the sign would be within my personal view here in Oregon, and yet one of the happy recipients of the prize is hoping that he will change his mind and put it several thousand miles away! Was I the one cognitively impaired or him??? A mental patient never really knows… No jokes about cognition here. I am above that clearly. Tsun Tsu wrote that the enemy always ends… Read more »
Robin Mitchell

I think we should put one as close to isleworth country club dr windermere florida as possible. Or, maybe fly a plane overhead with one of those tail signs. Preferably while Bob is sunning himself by the pool.

namnibor
I would only add and emphasize that BVA Thomas Murphy is not just bad for and insult to Vietnam Veterans, his appointment to that position is an insult to ALL Veterans that have been exposed to Burn Pits, Depleted Uranium, Military Sexual Trauma, and the list goes on and on. I would add that to your talking points as to express that Murphy is indeed toxic for ALL. This by no means is minimizing the 50+ years plight of Vietnam… Read more »
Iratevet24601

@ Namnibor Patient Advocates should be redefined as ‘Patient Adversaries yup, I concur. They should make Murphy drink a liter of Agent Orange and see what tune he sings.

namnibor

That tune would be “Psycho Killer” by the Talking Heads.

Iratevet24601

What tune did the witch sing in Wicked when she melted?

91Veteran
I have been having a hard time expressing or providing an analogy of Murphy and his denial of Agent Orange health effects. You are right though, if he is willing to be so shockingly ignorant on AO, he likely believes the same for other exposures. On Murphy, I just cannot understand how someone can rise through the VA bureaucracy, knowing of the hundreds of medical research projects showing health effects from AO, knowing of the legislation passed by Congress service… Read more »
Cantigny
>> Any vet who has talked to one can tell you what a lie that is. >>The Patient Advocates should be redefined as ‘Patient Adversaries’. Always out to lunch even if they happen to be in their offices and are as elusive as Sec. McDonald and just as non-effective for Veterans. concur with @ronald & @namnibor. i’ve been to many a VA in various states and have yet to have a PA do much of anything. often not even entering… Read more »
91Veteran
Since my discovery of these Reports of Contact, if I ever have to see a Patient Advocate again, I will demand they write a Report of Contact on the spot and provide me a copy so I can be sure it is accurate. I found out about these Reports of Contact a little over a year ago when I was talking to a clerk in the Release of Information office. She asked if I wanted one submitted, and explained they… Read more »
Bill

I would like to cal a pa something, but i have never had one call me back. Seems like they hide behind their voicemail wall.

In my experience a worthless position.

Crazy elf
@namnibor and other vets In my opinion, Ron, and others, should have never stopped putting up those billboards. He, and others, should have continued until VA capitulated to the demands Congress, veterans and taxpayers were complaining about. We, on here, surmised VA would never comply. We knew McDuck, and other’s in high places, would not stop the corruption, waste, fraud and abuse! As namnibor and others have said, it’s their damn “Cash Cow”! I seem to remember something. When attempting… Read more »
Crazy elf

P.S.
I also have a feeling Murphy will start pushing an “agenda” to reduce veterans compensation! As namnibor says, “Wait for it!”

namnibor
It would actually be more appropriate if ALL Patient Advocates were actually REQUIRED to be VETERANS ONLY POSITIONS! (Not West Point Types, all we basic ‘grunts’) That would at least place Veterans in positions to actually ADVOCATE *for* Vets, not the freaking Meat Grinder’s interests. It would help with Accountability. However, I am pretty sure McDonald indeed has that “God Syndrome” in which it’s his way or his HANDLERS (AFGE little COX) way or the highway. McDonald’s refusal to even… Read more »
91Veteran
Nam, I believe having combat vets as Patient Advocates is required rather than just vets. The Patient Advocate I mention in other comments was an AF pencil pusher years ago. The person at Grand Junction VA that is in charge of the Patient Advocates, or “Chief of Customer Service” which is his actual bullshit title, also is the guy who is the hospital Press Relations person. His bio shows he did press relations in the AF years ago. Just having… Read more »
namnibor

91Veteran- Yes, I should have placed emphasis on Veterans with Integrity.

Just how we have people that are Vets working at say the Phoenix VA that come on here and post but do they ever rarely mention that they were/are Whistleblowers? Not often enough, which makes an a Veteran VA employee even more egregious of a compliant self-interest-driven asses.

Yes, unfortunately the word of the day is A$$. Gotta guard that cookie jar. Collect them all. 🙂

Robin Mitchell

My husband and I donated to that board. Will donate again. And, again.

They patient advocate in Alaska Ms. Johnson had a union plaque on the wall for years. Who is her true master?

It is not only Murphy. Remeber that video of Rep Lee Zeldin taking on Beth McCoy over my husband? Google Lee Zeldin+John Mitchell.

She too got a promotion. It used to be lying to a congressman was a bad thing. Now Bob’s VA flaunts it, promotes it.

Bill

I watch the video andnyou are right. Why does congress not start referring va employees to the fbi for prosecution when they lie to congress? This might make those who think this a game to think twice before they lie to We The People.

I am sorry for your husbands injuries and he deserves much better.

Crazy elf

Bill,
The reason no one in VA is being “referred to the FBI”, or any other law enforcement agency, for prosecution, is simple.
Because POTUS, FBI, DOJ and all the other “acronyms of letters which is our government”, don’t give a sh!t about veterans!

Robin Mitchell
Bill, Thank you. That was Wednesday 6/15. By the following Tuesday his aid and attendance was approved. Bob McDonald emailed Ron Nesler telling him he had just learned of it the next morning and cc’d the congressman and I by mistake. I called him on it telling him he was full of shit. I think my exact words. Ron stayed on him. McDonald called me that Saturday night, Debi Bevins that Sunday night demanding to know exactly where my husband… Read more »
Bill
Itbis bull shit that it has to go to the levrl it did to get action. I am fed up with corrupt va employees just looking for excuses to screw vetetans all the while lining their pockets. If bob mac is so concerned about disabled vets why did he hire Thomas Murphy to head the VBA. I am happy that your husband has finally got what he earned and deserves but proves my point that very little happens to right… Read more »
91Veteran
Bill, if you find Ben’s post here from a few days ago in which he reports on Murphy giving several promotions, and naming who got the promotions, you can see from my comments on that post that Murphy is not the only corrupt, ignorant hack who should be fired. He promoted a guy named Danny Devine who was found by the IG to have lied to the IG while under oath in 2010. Devine tipped off a target of the… Read more »
redturtle984
Bill, Here is the problem congress faces. Most would love to see the FBI go after VA, however we live in a democratic form of government with enumerated powers. It means that if the power is not spelled out specifically in our Constitution then government posesses no such power. The Congress is only one of the three intended legs of government, the idea of course was to divided people into different rooms when they got to bullshiting about how they… Read more »
Crazy elf
To Robin Mitchell I went, and am STILL going, through the same kind of B/S your husband is going and went through. My wife is so disgusted with VA. She wants to scream! When she met one of my “brothers”, and has seen my name on a wall “…in honor of those who served in-country”. Trust me, she has not let VA employees forget it! The VA does not want to admit to a large portion of my Army military… Read more »
redturtle984
It really is not fair to ask me what I would do if I was head of any organization whose goal was permanent change at VA. I’ll give it a shot; I guess if it ever did happen that delusional folks elected me leader, my first purchase would be for some moderate yield tactical nuclear weapons. Then I suppose MY sign would be just a but modified from Brother Nesler’s ingenious design. Mine would look like a lottery sign but… Read more »
Iratevet24601

@ Namnibor AFGE little COX is a good description of VA HEIRARCHY just change the x to cks and it would be right on the money

Crazy elf
Here’s another issue many of us have had to deal with at VHA. That of “Big Pharma’s” use of “experimental drugs”! In keeping with this, I submit the following article, written by “Jon Rappoport” on July 27, 2016. titled; “Which is Worse: The NSA or the FDA?” Once y’all have read it, and digested its meanings. I hope you realize we are still, and have always been, “Guinea Pigs” of one of the most corrupt government agencies known to the… Read more »
Crazy elf

On our local news this morning, channel 27 Orlando, Florida!

“Two police officers were shot in San Diego, California!”

It happened either last night or early this morning. One is dead, the other is in the hospital.
I believe more info will be coming out later. As the investigation continues.

91Veteran

The FDA has been corrupt ever since they ignored the Informed Consent violations by the DOD on the anthrax and other vaccines, and the PB pills. Their corruption got worse when rather than yanking the license of the anthrax vaccine manufacturer for producing contaminated vaccines, they allowed them to shut down for 2 weeks to clean up their facility.
GAO reports from the late 1990s show this.

redturtle984
The AFGE was formed in 1932, the year Stalin declare all farmlands state property and the year the Franklin Roosevelt got elected. All of the federal jobs at that time we clerical in nature. Roosevelt made a few changes….. Not it is all backwards. RAND published a 497 page book which made conclusions about government based on 1000’s of individual studies they did on the topic. It takes 24 pages to get past allt the self glofication of RANDs vital… Read more »
Crazy elf
After reading many many of Ben’s Blogs, and, of course, all the comments. I really did need a great laugh today. Well, I got one. I showed my wife the video. She laughed so hard, she cried. She thought, as did I, we should share this with y’all! I hope y’all end up rolling on the floor in hysterical laughter! Google this video – “Breaking News: Bikers for Hillary are on their way to Philly” July 28, 2016 | by… Read more »
mary

To Elf & the Mrs., THANKS so much for referring the Bikers for Hillary video. I will send it to all four of my surviving grown children. It was a very welcome respite for a wee little bit of a stressful day. Have a good one, guys!

Know Your Audience

Phoenix VA seemed like the best VA to start with since corruption is still present at the facility even though many of the previous whistleblowers were paid off. Part of their settlements was to no longer bash VA.

But reports circulate even now that indicate Phoenix is still as corrupt as ever. So, a VA Is Lying billboard will go up in their backyard, again.

Know Your Audience (REAL one!)
Know Your Audience (REAL one!)

Ooooh, so you can use my moniker, you’re so clever! LOL!

What reports? I’m very cynical and distrusting by nature — so unless you show me ANYTHING, I can pretty much assume you’re making stuff up.

ARNOLD CABRAL

VETERANS HEAR THIS EVEN YOUR 100 PER CENT SERVICE CONNECTED NOT ALL YOUR HEALTHCARE IS NOT PAID FOR SO VETERANS CALLED YOUR REPRESENTATIVE and SENATOR OFFICE CHANGE THAT VETERAN LAW …..SEMPER FI

91Veteran
Those few reasons are likely the best reasons that go right to the heart of ongoing problems at the VA. The VA IS still lying as shown by the strategically placed press talking points around the country about wait times being reduced. They are not going down and telemedicine is not going to fix that. Murphy being an Agent Orange denier. Ron, if you are reading this, I would suggest a VA is Lying campaign to expose him, and make… Read more »
Know Your Audience
REALLY well said! This wins it for me: “…links to factual sources showing what he has said about Agent Orange not affecting a veterans health, along with posts of many of the various medical studies showing the various diseases resulting from exposure” Any time there can be a factual source, use it! We have to fight with the truth! Opinions and stories won’t cut it — you did the right thing in getting the FOIA! That’s just crazy — I… Read more »
TINA GARMAN
I HAVE BEEN BUCKING THE VA HOSPITALS FOR 30+ YEARS…MY CONDITION IS A RARE ONE, THEY GAVE ME 90% DISABILITY THEN “PRORATED” IT DOWN TO 70%; I HAVE ALMOST DIED 3 TIMES! ACCESSES IN BOTH ARM, RENDER ME & THEM USELESS, MY DAUGHTER (WHO I DO NOT SPEAK TOO), GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF DISABILITY, AS I DO, FOR WHAT I THINK WAS A BLADER PROBLEM, FROM BIRTH! NOW WE HAVE MOVED AND HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE NEW VETERANS’… Read more »
Kenneth Bennnett

One might find a witch doctor to be more effective on cancer research than most VA doctors, least the only killing most of them do is chickens.

91Veteran

I think the last few doctors I’ve seen at the VA actually WERE witch doctors before the VA thought they were well qualified in something and hired them.

tlowm
The 1st VA hospital I received care in was in 1981 following my discharge from USMC. I returned home to Manhattan and had a recurrence of large cyst in my sinus cavity that had to be removed surgically. The location I believe was 26th and 1st. Very good care. I remember being told that they were plucking homeless vets off the street and admitting them in order to keep the doors open. I’m not sure how true that is. I… Read more »
Mary

Mr Nesler, I want to send you a check to help you with this endeavor. Ben, Is there an address available?

Stanton Lore
The head of VA claims has zero influence on decisions involving service connection for Agent Orange related diseases. If a disease is on the codified list, then the Rating authority will establish service connection. But being logical and fair is not a strength of Neslers. He jumps on board the train to rip the VA for denying benefits when they should be granted There are problems in the VA but he is no help for a solution. Here he is… Read more »
Bill

Be honest….what is your position in the va?

mary

To Stanton Lore– Good grief your name is synonymous to Peter Lorre…. all doom and gloom. I commend Ron’s very hard work he does and the “problem” DOES exist and it IS in the mind of ALL veterans who were exposed to it. Take a biggg longgg whiffff.

redturtle984
How can anyone say if they are a help or hinderence to the final solution of any problem? Leaders in combat know this. Sometimes an order must be given to take either the left path or the right. Sometimes either path might lead to victor or both may lead to oblivion, but nearly always the alternative choice of doing nothing leads to dishonor. The leader makes a choice knowing that either choice might be wrong, or maybe both choices are… Read more »
91Veteran

Do you seriously believe the head if the VBA has no influence over the people below him?
I believe it is also codified that VA managers be honest in the duties they perform, including reporting statistics used to pay bonuses.

We are how well that went.

Robin Mitchell
Explain to me how Robert McDonald got my husband’s claim to the BVA AND approved in SIX DAYS? Was it just coincidental that Danny Pummill was out and Murphy in within minutes of McDonald being outed as a liar in an email between Ron Nesler, myself, congressman Zeldin and many, many others? I heard that McDonald had a fit in VACO that morning. I also heard he is popping some pills to keep him calm. And, he cannot quit because… Read more »
91Veteran

I do hope that birdy is singing. I would like nothing more than to see McDonald on the hot seat explaining how he promoted an Agent Orange denier, who then promoted a guy who signed a letter illegally ordering VA staff to change claims dates, and promoted a guy who lied under oath to the VA IG conducting an investigation into waste, fraud and abuse.

James
Explain. To me why McDonald would not help a veteran whom was falsely accused of disruptive behavior and he had ten years of correspondence proving it right in front of him. ! And he sends it right back to the people hurting the veteran to answer the veteran. Instead of McDonald demanding the VA provide the proof or correct the mistake or fire the person making the false allegations.? I’m happy for you and glad you got help. One veteran… Read more »
Robin Mitchell
91 veteran, VACO is telling a lawyer that they are getting ready to arrest me for harassment. The dead giveaway was they were going to arrest him too. John does not do social media, he barely uses his cell phone, etc. In fact he is in no where Alaska right now on his home turf and not a guy I would try to corner. If that SOCOM flag officer had let McDonald into John’s file instead of telling him his… Read more »
namnibor

Letting loose the Troll IED right, now~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

namnibor
Off-Topic but not exactly: I do not quite know what to think of these new ‘security measures’ ALL Federal Agencies are supposed to implement starting Aug.,2016. I am going to copy/paste the email I just received from Social Security because since it applies to ALL Fed Agencies that provide sensitive info/data to users, the VA/VHA surely must be required unless exempted. Here you go: “[Starting in August 2016, Social Security is adding a new step to protect your privacy as… Read more »
TINA GARMAN

He who laughs first laughs last

namnibor

He who quotes fortune cookie lost his cookies.

James

Funny one. !

91Veteran
This is a result of the OPM data breach, a result of many federal agencies contracting with Google and an inability of Google to prevent phishing or other malware attacks because people working in government are too stupid to avoid clicking on things they receive in email causing massive malware/virus infections. So, instead of stomping on the nitwits causing these problems, Uncle Sugar is making it equally difficult for everyone. I cannot believe SSA is claiming a cell phone is… Read more »
Crazy elf
To everyone, Just now on “ABC World News with David Muir” was an article about VA. titled: “Tax Dollars Spent on Art During VA Scandal” Congressmen(women) are working overtime to garner votes. Looks like their “playing” to all the taxpayers! Or maybe their just “Playing the Taxpayers”!!!! You know, the old “Switch and Bait Con Game”, or the “Peanut Shell Game” – which one will y’all choose? The VA responded with the same old Bull Shit. That the “…art helps… Read more »
Crazy elf

The colored lights on the parking lot “…cost $330,000 of taxpayers money”! The not so funny aspect of it is;
It is a ‘board’ with “Morris Code” said to have “…sayings by Lincoln…”and someone else.
The kicker is, it’s supposed to be for blind veterans. Critics say those who are blind, CAN’T “SEE” IT!
NOW, WHO WOULDA THUNK THAT, AMAZING!

Crazy elf

Oh, another little piece of info – guess who’s “defending the VA” over the egregious acts of spending $20 million of taxpayers monies, over a 10 year period, on useless art? None other than the “American Legion!”

I believe this little bit of information will bring out more trolls!

James
The VA says it a vital way to help veterans.? Veterans can not eat art and since we paid for it. It should all be auctioned off. ! No matter now many trols speak up defending it. It will shoe once again how little they knew what veterans need. The VA Is given x amount of dollar’s end if they don’t spend it. Now else are they going to ask for more. ! Were broke. More please. ! If a… Read more »
namnibor

They must need new hats. 🙂 Maybe this time the tassels will have glowing fiber optic trails coming out designed by no other than Lady Gaga. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Thanks, Elf. You just HAD to spread out the Troll Bait. 🙂

Crazy elf

Hey, namnibor,
If the American Legion is so hellbent on destroying veterans.
Let’s give them an ‘excuse’!
This way we can “flush out the traitorous dogs”!

James
Corruption is corruption. You can send a corrupt person to tin butt too and that person will not change. ! Patient advocating should be taken completely out of the VA system. ! This should be handled by an outside source. Remember VA pays them and veterans Will never get a fair shake when their beholding to their employeer. ! The signs need to target not only VA medical facilities. But also the regional office’s. ! Many Veterans can not seek… Read more »
Sue Frasier
It is a fallacy and mistake to try and hold onto VA’s toxic exposure process known as Presumption, and the Agent Orange legislation for it is obsolete and antiquated beyond all usefulness. Men veterans seem to be adamant about holding onto it. The Fort McClellan toxic exposure veterans have launched a new effort in the Senate on March 16th, 2016 and will be continued at the end of their summer Recess in September, by submitting a concept draft for new… Read more »
91Veteran

I like the concept Sue if for nothing else other than it stopping the VA and certain VSOs from pitting one veteran against another.
If you try carve out and get Congress to pass legislation dealing with one group of veterans, inevitably you have other groups of veterans encouraged by VSOs complaining of taking money away from other veterans.

Bravo for your efforts!

ARNOLD CABRAL

G00D MORNING VETERANS HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT WHAT DONALD TRUMP and HILLARY CLINTON SAY HOW TO BETTER VETERANS HEALTHCARE MY BELIEF THE VETERANS AFFAIRS NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR SYSTEM . WHAT DO YOU VETERANS THINK PLUS VETERANS TRANSPORTATION NEED LONGER HOURS TO WORK.

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