Here We Go Again, Another Bill Passes For VA ‘Accountability’

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VA Accountability

I do not plan to waste much time writing about yet another VA accountability bill that is magically passing right before the election cycle just like in 2014.

Like in 2014, the bill is apparently bipartisan in nature. Unlike in 2014, President Obama says he is concerned about this bill stripping rights from federal employees.

In a statement, “The administration believes that the approach to accountability in the legislation – focused primarily on firing or demoting employees without appropriate or meaningful procedural protections – is misguided and burdensome.”

PAST VA ACCOUNTABILITY

You may recall earlier this year Obama reversed in his tracks and refused to uphold the laws passed by Congress that he signed into law in 2014. I am not going to hold my breath on this one.

I remember Secretary Bob McDonald bloviating to Congress that he would fire bad VA employees if only the law allowed for swifter terminations. Congress passed the law. Then, McDonald refused to fire the employees.

Instead, VA has seemingly stayed the course, kept its corrupt and criminal employees in place, paid off other bad employees, and allowed whistleblowers to be victimized.

It’s a joke.

Source: http://www.stripes.com/news/us/house-passes-contentious-va-reform-legislation-1.429135

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CorpsmanuP! (@Tang1967)
CorpsmanuP! (@Tang1967)

No, he is reporting facts and pledging allegiance to the flag. Not desecrating it or protesting it in a treason like mentality that people think is a 1st amendment right. If you burn or otherwise disrespect the flag, it is a crime if you look at the flag code. Big fat filthy healthcare providers and others who condone this behavior at VA will be the first targets of a well formed militia quoted in the 2nd amendment. I will be sitting back watching when it goes down waiting for the word from my brothers and sisters. “CorpsmanUp!”

Reuben Castro Acosta
Reuben Castro Acosta

stupid lazy congress yo are putting more lipstick on the va super pig at va dc hq agin pendej VETS yo have been swrewed by congress !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don Avant
Don Avant

RE: Unlike in 2014, President Obama says he is concerned about this bill stripping rights from federal employees.

People who break the law and then hide behind civil service protections DESERVE TO HAVE THOSE RIGHTS STRIPPED…What part of that does POTUS not understand?

91Veteran
91Veteran

Long forgotten is the Oath every one of these hacks took when they were hired.

Nowhere in that Oath does it say federal lawbreaking can be overlooked in favor of “employee protections.”

namnibor
namnibor

Perhaps they should have this Bill and Law laser-inscribed onto a boomerang this time around? You know, for convenience and handy reminder when the VA and DOJ again refuse to do the right thing. Coming soon along with other demolitions to lives of Veterans. This is nothing but a ‘Game of Thrones’ to these monsters.

namnibor
namnibor

That statement of, “[The administration believes that the approach to accountability in the legislation – focused primarily on firing or demoting employees without appropriate or meaningful procedural protections – is misguided and burdensome.]”, pretty much guarantees as long as Obama and his DOJ are in office, NOTHING, I mean NOTHING will be done.

POTUS obviously holds the hearts and souls and well-being of Federal Workers OVER Veteran’s getting the shaft from these same monsters. AFGE Pres. David “little” Cox has also obviously garnered the devoted attention of the POTUS over Veterans that are to be served BY the VA.
Too bad the VA is serving Veterans a cold deal with no accountability. Nothing will change until we have a REAL President, not someone more concerned with his “kingship’s” legacy…and that’s ALL Obama cares about at this point, his “kingship’s” legacy. NOT Veterans.
What a joke of a Commander In Chief. As Bugs Bunny would say, “What a maroon”!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I wonder what kind of “pork” is in this “accountability bill”?
Has anyone actually read the whole thing? Is there any type of “financial” passages? For example, does VA receive more taxpayers money, before Oct 1,?

namnibor
namnibor

I too, am concerned that they stuck-in some hidden clause that allows the VA to use RN’s and Medical Assistants as Dr.’s. Maybe I am confusing that with something else but it would be apropos for the AFGE/VA to ensure to utilize this open window to insert something that only benefits the VA and was the end-goal all along? See what I am saying?

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Definitely agree with you Namnibor.

Just another way of insulating Doctors that are using Veterans in human subject research. That way the VA can claim a nursing error and no can be sued for Malpractice.

Bill
Bill

Just more of the same. GIGO

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Here’s two Utube videos for your pleasure!

1.)
“They Are Covering This Up ~! Hillary Clinton Wants To Hide This Video!”
published on Sept. 15, 2016

2.)
“Jason Chaffetz Makes FBI ADMIT That They Covered Up Hillary Clinton’s LIES”
published on Sept. 16, 2016

Enjoy!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Here’s another “Infowars” video y’all should watch.
titled;

“Ford Tells Detroit, Adios”

published on 15 Sept 2016!
(About 10 minutes long)

This video has a disturbing message for all of America!
If you thought “NAFTA” was bad. The “TTP”, and other types of business agreements, WILL ruin the United States of America!

Plus, there’s still a, albeit smaller, push to stop Mr. Trump. This time from the elites to garner support to “combine the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a “single country”, as is the E.U., (European Union)!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Correction;
It should be the “TPP”, or “Trans Pacific Partnership”!

Reuben Castro Acosta
Reuben Castro Acosta

MORE LIPSTICK ON THE VA DC HQ PIG ITS ALL SMOKE @ MIRRROWS VETS YO HAVE BEEN SCREWED AGIN BY CONGRESS JUST ELECTION CRAP CON GRESS COVERING THEIR ASSES AGING NOTHING WILL CHANGE AT THE VA DC HQ PIG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reuben Castro Acosta
Reuben Castro Acosta

AMEN BRO

Hondo
Hondo

It’s called feel-good-lesislation………….there’s going to be a lot of that crap coming up between now and the election, the way career politicians stay in office……lock and load it’s coming………

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Judge Jeanine Pirro was on “Fox News” this morning. Interesting facts coming out.

1.a.) “In August – 10,000 people caught by Border Agents!”,
(Which is at a higher level than it should be),

1.b.) “Mexico is going to build a wall on their southern border!”
This one is a strange statement. Because Mexico already has a southern wall! Google it, and be amazed at what they have!

2.) “Feds going to spend $4.6 million for refugee healthcare!”

Where is the government getting this taxpayers money? Plus, these refugees, approximately 70%, will be made up of complete families, (mothers, fathers, children, and more)!
Our deficit is at over $20 TRILLION, FOLKS!
Will the VA be gutted AGAIN of our money?

James
James

What do I think, Let Trump take care of it ! When they plead the fifth ! Your fired, The VA Lawyer your fired ! Top Management your fired ! Veteran Employee, you will be Vetted, if you pass you stay !

If you don’t your fired !

They are not Afraid of God, Because they think they are God like ! Maybe Trump will take them down !

Reuben Castro Acosta
Reuben Castro Acosta

same old dog @ poney show CONGRESS IS PALING ANOTHER SCAM CON GAME ON THE VETS AGIN VETS YO ARE BEING SCREWED BY CONGGESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don Karg
Don Karg

09/16/2016

Dear Benjamin Krause,

There has been no accountability for the VA Hospital, they have gotten away with “murder” and “fraud” and “deception.”

Now, the country is turning its attention to the veterans after years [decades] of neglect from our Senators and Representatives, and the Citizenry as a whole.

The fact is that this action(s) from the VA was Treason.

And for all those who guided the action to the end result are also guilty.

Country is all you have in the end and if it is gone—you are screwed!

United States vs. Nixon—“no one is above the law and all evidence must be provided…”

Why did the DOJ not use this on the VA Administrators?

The Government is out of control and it will take Americans to bring it back to the correct operating procedures.

Accountability will return.

Sincerely,

Don Karg

91Veteran
91Veteran

Yeah, I agree Ben. No need to waste a lot of time on more theatrics on doing something the VA already has the authority to do, but no will to do so. And no will from Congress to force the issue.

If you read this and the Stripes article, the buffoons in the White House talk about appropriate and meaninful protections for employees.

There is no mention of appropriate and meaningful protections for veterans who just want to survive an appointment.

The White Hut talks about the legislation being misguided and burdensome, without a hint of how burdensome it is for a veteran when a VA employee refuses to follow the law.

Or without mention of the burden on taxpayers paying for incompetence and payouts to whistle blowers, or payouts to other managers when the VA repeatedly fucks up their firing. The first managers fired under this legislation should be those in the General Counsels office who cannot seem to get their act together when firing worthless employees at any level.

Now, to get to the nut of this, look at the language used by both those who support the legislation, those who are against it, and how the VA management from McDonald on down is allowing this bullshit to be portrayed.

THE VA ALREADY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO FIRE EXECUTIVES AND MANAGERS QUICKLY!!!

Quotes from supporters show this allows fast tracking the firing of EXECUTIVES.

Yet VA management is allowing the White Hut and the union to portray this as an attack against employees, removing “protections” against union members who cannot be fired after beating a veteran to death, or are arrested after an armed hold-up.

This legislation has NOTHING to do with rank and file union member level employees. It has EVERYTHING to do with firing managers or executives who are BARRED BY LAW from being union members.

Their position is NOTHING more than an attempt to gin up support from union members forced to work under corrupt managers, with the end result of protecting those managers.

Meanwhile, veterans continue to shoulder the burden of incompetent employees whose appropriate protections for their job are deemed more important to that little thug in the White House than another dead veteran.

redturtle984
redturtle984

Unlike his Nobel Prize for Peace, reforms at an agency under his control that target the improvement of care for his nations warriors lack any real substance and unlike the Nobel Prize for furthering world peace they do not merit his serious consideration.

I can see that.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I forgot to mention, but there is no clearer example of the need for fast tracking firing of executives than Lucy Filipov.

Filipov was under investigation by the IG in 2015 for her direct activities in defrauding veterans of federal benefits. The claim that she didn’t know better or misunderstood the policy is bullshit. Anyone who may just be an entry level clerk at the VA understands the EFFECTIVE DATE of a claim.

Now it’s late 2016, long after who knows how many veterans have been affected by her incompetence, or are still fighting it, she not only is not fired, but the VA goes to the extreme in the other direction compensating her many thousands of dollars for her incompetence or corruption.

This after a very lengthy paid vacation from her job.

…Which may have benefited veterans by her absence.

Jo3n
Jo3n

I guess I’m just not getting it. Why is Congress not getting it? Other than a few hundred VA executives and cohorts, who the he’ll does Congress think they’re protecting? Art of war; cut off the head. My state has voted no on every VA reform. So, I can’t call or write anyone. Feel enabled. Good luck to Veterans everywhere.

namnibor
namnibor

@Jo3n- There’s absolutely nothing wrong with you or anyone of us that “do not get it”, as I almost believe one has to be in the middle of the fraud and corruption to “get it”, as it absolutely makes no sense at all and if I had any misgivings before about this Administration and POTUS, it’s definitely at this point more than ready for the next warm body in the White Hut…yesterday.
This also certifies that the AFGE needs to be thrown-out with the bathwater. Reset. Regroup. Carry-on.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Here’s a great Utube video from a few hours ago!
The massive presence of military personnel, ie: Medal of Honor Recipients, Generals, Gold Star Families, etc., present is amazing!
It’s 37:25 minutes long. Well worth watching!
Title to Google is;

“Full: Donald Trump Holds Press Conference in DC 9/16/16”

There is statements made over the “broken VA!”

This was at his NEW Washington DC, five star, Hotel, which was “under budget” and completed under schedule by at least a year and a half. As Mr. Trump has said on Fox earlier today, “…something unheard of in our government today!”
Enjoy!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

It looks as though “Wells Fargo” is tied to Hillary Clinton to defraud her supporters! And it ain’t the first time “The Hildabeast” got caught!
Don’t y’all think Well Fargo would learn from their mistakes?

Here’s a great Utube video from “Infowars.com” out today.

“Hillary Campaign Gouges Poorest Supporters”

(about 04:02 minutes long!)

namnibor
namnibor

I told you that the Wells Fargo Scandal will be a ‘gift’ that keeps giving…

Jo3n
Jo3n

This is nothing to do with the subject. I received my appointment notification from the VA before I went. I noticed that I have a new Dr. The VA Dr., doesn’t exist anymore. 3 years gone. It was a setup to be seen by a nurse. This nurse said, she is this fictional Dr. Just another waste of time and effort, on my part. Just a shared thing.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Jo3n,
Everything on here has to do with veterans.
Your comments are a welcome sight.
Your “waste and time and effort”, at VA, is what we all go through!
Hell, everything these posers in government do, needs to be brought out into the light of day. Maybe, the sun will burn their sorry asses!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I knew, sooner or later, some high ranking elected official would say what millions of Americans are possibly thinking.
Here it is, in full black and white!
From:
“American Spotlight”

“Kentucky Gov. Believes Violence May Erupt from Clinton’s Election”

Quote: “Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin (R) told religious conservatives at the Values Voters Summit this weekend that blood might have to be shed if Hillary Clinton is elected president!”

An article in the “Chicago Tribune”, originally from,
Aaron Blake (of the)
“Washington Post”
Sept 13, 2016

Or you can google

“Kentucky governor: Electing Hillary Clinton may lead to violence”

And read the original “Washington Post” article!

namnibor
namnibor

All they are attempting to do is vilify Trump Supporters. Plain and simple. The media has become quite a fly in the ointment of truth these days. Ratings/Likes and $$.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

namnibor, I completely agree. Yet, On the other side of the coin we have a person who cannot tell the truth, keep classified info secret, vilify women who told the truth about her (pedophile) unfaithfull (rapist) husband and a host of other things.
Then we have two other idiots, Johnson, (wants to legalize almost all illegal drugs), and Stein, (who doesn’t realize socialism does not work), who are beyond belief!

So, I guess that leaves only one individual who said he will “clean up Washington DC”!
With all the corruption we’ve seen in the past few months, Washington DC needs a complete enema!
Mr. Trump says he can do it.
Brother, I’m tending to believe him more and more each day!

Miriam Cedillo
Miriam Cedillo

Sad family survivor…

If, by some miracle, some VA employees DO get fired… would that include doctors and nurses at VA nursing homes?

My father, though in his 90s when he was admitted to a VA home, had lived over 18 years after experiencing a debilitating stroke that should have killed him within 2 years of experiencing it; but through 24/7 family care he lived far longer than most of his civilian doctors expected. When he was eventually admitted to the home, his VA doctor said he would no longer test his blood sugar (my dad developed Type II Diabetes 5 years after his stroke). Within two weeks my dad had a blood sugar of over 800. I’m the one who found him not acting himself during a Saturday visit, but his nurses just shrugged my concerns off. I had to wait till the doctor arrived Monday and insist that he see my dad (the nurses wouldn’t have bothered to tell him).

My dad was dead within 9 months, but not after he suffered gi tube feedings, a trach to breathe, MRSA, and eventually dying of Sepsis, due to gangrene. In my opinion the nurses were negligent, and the doctor should have been brought up on malpractice charges. But the nurses and CNAs belonged to a very strong union, and unless one was caught ‘red-handed’ doing something wrong, they could (and probably did) get away with murder. Though I sent a complaint to the State’s Medical Board about the doctor’s action, or lack thereof, I was told over the phone as I requested the needed forms to fill out sent to me, that it was unlikely the doctor would be called to account for his actions. This happened just last year, and I’ll probably never see justice, and thus never get over it.

Bill
Bill

I told a high up va manager that I was going to contact my congress man about the malpractice they committed on me, she daid, go for it, the will just reger it havk to me.

I hinestly feel your paid. I am very sorry for your loss.

Thomas Suhadolnik
Thomas Suhadolnik

no justice no peace

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Today is a Friday.
I wonder what will come out, that we will not see or hear about until tomorrow or Sunday?!?!?

NiteWish
NiteWish

Crazy elf: A pipe bomb exploded in a Jersey Shore town shortly before thousands of runners were due to take part in a charity 5K race to benefit marines and sailors.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3794320/Pipe-bomb-explodes-Marines-charity-5K-no-injuries.html

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Just in reports of shoots fired at Rose Medical Center in Denver. VA Easter Colorado Health Center and the Denver VAMC are part of the Campus where the shoots were reported.

All facilities on the Medical Campus were placed on lockdown as of 4:00 pm today.

NiteWish
NiteWish

Seymore Klearly
Sounds like a drill to me as no one was found shooting & standard male description. Hospital spokeswoman from the Rose Medical Center said all patients & staff were safe. “This is a reality we live in. We’ve all been trained on this.” They called in a heavy police presence now if your curious follow this link & last paragraph has another link that will give a list by county what military equipment your local dept. has on hand to contain the situation. It reads: Select your state and your county to see exactly how militarized your town has become.
Click here to load this Caspio Online Database.

Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/military-hardware-local-pd-stockpiling-database-show-you/#o0zgxupZ86CHp7WD.99

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James Gallegos
James Gallegos

Many suicides at Denver. Per Denver VA.?

Denver vamc hurts veterans At will and will continue to do so. Until someone goes to jail. I would love to know what they did to the veteran. To cause them to do something like that if it was a veteran

Who knows may be an employee was regected from hungry hippos game. The Denver VA without any proof. Accused me of wanting to shoot staff there. First they said I wanted to shoot the rater

Then changed to the Denver VA and then changed to my local clinic. None of this was ever said by me and the VA can not provide any proof period. Why because they have none. A VA employee started all this and the Denver VA never asked for proof from her

The Denver VA probably did this to someone else and they could not handle it to. Yet veteran’s are blamed. Dirty shame

Thomas West
Thomas West

You left out one word… “it’s a sad joke”

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