Rep. Warren Davidson

One Ohio Republican, Rep. Warren Davidson, called veterans clogging up the disability compensation system “moochers” and “pretenders” faking symptoms.

In a town hall event, Rep. Warren Davidson (R-OH) made some shocking claims comparing veterans to workers comp moochers:

“Just like workers comp out here’s got moochers, I wish that there were no vets that were the same sort of problem on our society. But part of the problem is there are some vets that are moochers and they’re clogging up the system, and we do as taxpayers want to make sure the VA filters out these folks that are pretenders. Just like we wish there were no people out there with stolen valor, but that’s a problem in the vet community, too.”

His comments drew heavy criticism from Rep. Jeff Miller (R-FL), “I can only hope that Rep. Warren Davidson misspoke, and I look forward to him clarifying his remarks.”

Marching into this election cycle, I think it’s important for Americans and veterans to consider statements like these when voting.

It is noteworthy to highlight that Rep. Davidson’s military experience was solely through the lens of a West Point graduate. His perspective of veterans was no doubt shaped by that military experiences.

After service Rep. Davidson when on to earn an MBA from Notre Dame to run the family business from 20 employees to over 200.

ABOUT REP. WARREN DAVIDSON

According to the Rep. Warren Davidson congressional website:

“Warren was born and raised in Ohio. After high school, he enlisted in the Army going on to serve for 12 years. While serving in Germany, he witnessed the fall of the Berlin Wall. He excelled as a soldier compelling his commanders to recognize his work ethic and leadership potential. This earned Warren an appointment to the United States Military Academy at West Point.

“At West Point Warren excelled in the classroom by finishing in the top ten percent of his class. Warren majored in American History and minored in Mechanical Engineering, which led to a healthy obsession with the principles instilled in the Declaration of Independence and the Checks and Balances defined in the Constitution. His stellar reputation as an Army officer earned him positions in distinguishing units: The Old Guard, The 75th Ranger Regiment, and the 101st Airborne Division.

“In 2000, Warren returned to Ohio to help move his father’s manufacturing business forward. As part of reshaping the family business, Warren started another business and earned an MBA from the University of Notre Dame and graduated with honors. Warren has built cultures of excellence, growing the family shop from 20 employees to multiple companies with over 200.

“Warren recently celebrated 21 years of marriage with his lovely wife Lisa. They are proud of their children, Zachary and Rachel. He is active in the community and is the former Chairman of the Dayton Region Manufacturers Association, where the focus is on promoting careers in manufacturing and advancing the industry.

“As a Constitutional Conservative and Military Veteran Congressman Davidson, ‘Swears to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic …’ and to  ‘well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.'”

Source: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/boehners-gop-replacement-slurs-veterans-as-moochers-and-pretenders-for-seeking-va-care/

Don Avant
Quote from Raw Story: “As a veteran, I know the sub-par care that many of my brothers and sisters in arms have received, and I will not be content until that is changed,” Davidson said. “Any effort to suggest I have anything other than a soldier’s passion for providing our veterans with the care they deserve is dishonest.” His spokesman cited four cases of VA benefits fraud uncovered this year, all of which were prosecuted. Only one of those four… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Hey Don, While I certainly agree with you and know your assessment is correct. I was hoping you could post the title of the article so I could check it out. I know I had read an article about Davidson before that cited 4 of the examples like mentioned in the article you read. I know it mentioned the California man falsely claimed to be a decorated Marine Corps veteran to get health care benefits and other assistance. Also the… Read more »
namnibor
Anyone notice and remember the exact type of thinking of a poster that used to come on here in past couple years, not often, but yet another West Pointer that thinks Veterans are “moochers”, “Dan Gade” was his name, I believe…pretty much in same thought cloud as Rep. Warren Davidson? This must be what they are teaching at West Point these days: projecting Veterans as degenerates and moochers. However, if I used Rep. Warren Davidson’s same faulty logic, I could… Read more »
Iratevet24601

Most USMA Graduates embody the schools mascot the jackass

Craig Northacker

McCain wanted to reform the compensation system that would tie the amount of compensation to the rank attained in the military – which is an elitist approach from an Annpolis grad.

91Veteran

Why does this not surprise me.

As if some officer with hemorrhoids after driving a desk for 20 years should get compensated more for his “disability” than some private who got his legs blown off from an IED.

PS. I REALLY need to check the misleading title of this web blog site. Bashing Republicans all the time!

Bob Perry
Actually, I am also a veteran and I know both Warren Davidson AND Daniel Gade. 1) For those who are bad-mouthing Daniel Gade, stop spreading your ignorance and go google his story. You have absolutely NO CLUE what you’re talking about but, for those who do know Daniel Gade, your comments are embarrassing … to you. 2) I was present at the meeting when Warren Davidson made his original comment about “moochers.” Knowing the press, you should also know (or… Read more »
Crazy elf
No where does this individual say anything about serving in a war zone. Did he forget to mention that little piece of information, or is it just not in his resume? Don and namnibor have said just about everything needed to be said! Don references the (%) percentage of vets caught defrauding the government vs the total amount of veterans actually receiving disability. namnibor, has asked “WHAT” is his underlying agenda? Could he be wanting to “cash in” by being… Read more »
namnibor

Carzy elf- Damn, we think alike sometimes. Did not see your post while making coffee and going back to laptop, LOL!

Crazy elf

Yes, kinda scary, in a good way, brother!

namnibor
I somehow missed it in this “glamor vitae of Rep. Warren Davidson’s” where he has actually showed empathy and outreach to Disabled or otherwise Veterans. However, an awful lot about his family’s business success…all apparently due to his “whiz kid knowledge”, but nowhere in there am I seeing him talking about those Vets he refers as “MOOCHERS” that are still fighting VA care/VBA for Agent Orange, Burn Pits, Depleted Uranium, shoddy body armor/IED’s…and more…that disconnect is strong with this meathead.… Read more »
Crazy elf

namnibor,
I wonder how many veterans, disabled or not, does Davidson employ at that “thriving company” he owns?

namnibor

Would not surprise me if his own company the article said he also started, was manufacturing industrial shredders for the VA.

Derek Frazier

less than 30% is less than VA veteran employment stat.

91Veteran

This guy reminds me of the Major in Heartbreak Ridge. A bean-counting bureaucrat jumping over dollars to save pennies.

Crazy elf
Here’s two articles out through “military.com”! #1.) Was from 26 Sept 2016 “Military Daily News”, Titled; “Official: One-Third of Calls to VA Suicide Hotline Roll Over” AP | by Mathew Daly This article gives the reader a “WTF” kinda attitude against VA! Is the number of suicides by veterans really only 20 each day? After reading this, I believe it’s much higher. It just isn’t being properly reported! ——————— #2.) Is about our friendly “murderer of veterans in Phoenix, Az.,… Read more »
Crazy elf

Correction
#2.) Was written by “Travis J. Tritten”!

namnibor

Election Season…$$$$$$$$. Obvious answer. They must make themselves appear as doing their original “mission” of you know, fighting FOR Veterans….but once the check has cleared it will be back to rooting for the VA and vilifying Veterans. Just a stage dance and horse and pony show,

Crazy elf

namnibor, brother, I was being extremely facetious on my “What the Fuck took them so long!” line about the VSO’s!
It’s self evident these VSO’s don’t give a rats ass about veterans, whether their members or not!

gary owen faas
The article states he was assigned to the 75th Rangers as an ‘outstanding officer’ so when did he go through Ranger School, as well as Airborne School? The 101st is Air Mobile now and does not jump on a regular basis. If he was in fact a Ranger why didn’t he Volunteer for the War of Choice in Iraq? He could have Volunteered for Afghanistan as well. I’ve 4 nephews and one niece who have done multiple tours in both… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Well I certain do not care for Rep Davidson’s comments on Veterans. There is one bill that he has proposed that I could fully stand behind. Last week Davidson introduced the Lead by Example bill that would require members of Congress, the Senate and their staffers to switch their health care to the VA system by January 2019. According to an article in the Dayton Daily News. his new bill that he campaigned on during his run for election. Last… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
In the article Davidson also said: “that while there is a committee to provide oversight for the VA in Congress, Davidson suggested, “Why not have everyone in Congress — senators, Congressmen, staff members — everywhere across the county dealing wit the VA.” While I certainly would support his bill. The only draw back that I can see regarding the bill he has submitted to congress is that if it were to pass and became law. Then the VA would truly… Read more »
namnibor

And those member of Congress and Staffers would get specialized care, you just know it, this potentially could also further entrench the VA with Politicians making “promises” in order to get Dr.’s to give the care that Vets will not get…great idea and I have proposed this very idea for some years now, but until the rat bastards are kicked off the decks of the V.A. Titanic, the corrosion remains.

Seymore Klearly

Fully agree Namnibor,

But in checking I have to wonder why the big smear campaign on Davidson. We both know that the bill will never pass. But it does seem to shine a different light on Davidson.

Derek Frazier
TO ALL READERS: Obamacare exchanges are here to stay, penalties for the businesses that refuse to treat patients and add members. Litigation coming from Hillary. 🙂 Presidential Powers may be necessary to restore efficiency that are rapidly being jeopardized by the scandalous malfeasance of today’s corporations and 35% of practicing or researching, and/or working medical doctors. Scheeweee I tell yah, from where I sit, I have a pretty good read on the markets. Little lucky if you’d say. These Health… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Another article on the Davidson Bill. “Davidson wants Congress to get health care from VA Bill faces long odds because each member would have to switch their health care plans.”; by Jessica Wehman, Journal News, 09/13/2016. “http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/national-govt-politics/davidson-wants-congress-to-get-health-care-from-va/nsXXW/” “” Washington Bureau WASHINGTON — Rep. Warren Davidson — the newest member of Ohio’s congressional delegation — wants members of Congress and their staff to receive health care from the Department of Veterans Affairs. Davidson, R-Troy, an Army veteran who promised to push… Read more »
Crazy elf
OK, Davidson wants all the Washington politicians and aids to use the VA. In his words, “To lead by example!” Yet, Davidson is using the Affordable Care Act right now! This doesn’t sound like he’s willing to “lead”, YET! Two things. 1.) I agree with namnibor, in that IF Davidson were to switch to VA for healthcare, he’d definitely receive “special treatment”! 2.) As you say Seymore, we’d definitely have a WHOLE LOT OF MOOCHERS receiving healthcare at VA! The… Read more »
namnibor
This is the pattern I have taken notice of: The VA tends to leave little selectively released breadcrumbs in the news that almost always lead to a cash grab. Create the problem so you can sell the packaged new problem, and the boxes within boxes warp space/time continuum until they get whatever it is they want. Often with Politicians, and so sorry to have to say this, but ex-military turned Politicians, seem to become warped and quickly as if it… Read more »
namnibor
When I said the VA requires a massive enema top to bottom, I am inferring that initially, the VA Upper Management needs flushed, and replace with polar opposite of what jumped ship or was tossed overboard with competent Veterans, preferably, and not of the type that come from ivory towers of experience. No, down in trench, regular folk if possible. Then that completely replaced Upper Management must rule with an iron fist to make the VA a place to be… Read more »
91Veteran
I agree his bill would result in changes, if it ever had a snowballs chance in hell of passing. The question someone should have asked is, if the VA is clogged with moochers, why clog it up more with perfumed moochers? Or, if the VA is only bad because it is clogged up with moochers, why would Congress have to get health care to see how bad it is? Seems a few moochers would be rather easy for such smart… Read more »
Derek Frazier

Namnibor I love this post about a different chain of command for the VA sec. If he/she is/was at least an E5 and or/ O4 upon entering the White House. then there is an acception.

Dennis
The distinguished gentlemen from the State of Nomooch may have a point. When the munchkins from the land of Nomooch all decided to send their Representative from the East side of the realm of Oz to help the great wizard change humans into Nomooch Munchkins, they all knew very well the effect of clogging because munchkins only wear clogs. Following the goddamn Yellow Brick road in clogs is hella difficult and slows everything down. Getting to the poppies is a… Read more »
namnibor

Words of the day are “Clogged” and “Moochkins”. 🙂 Thanks, you made me laugh and needed those endorphins about now!

namnibor

The Great OZ was exposed to VA Telemedicine!! Now it’s not just the monkeys that he sees flying! Poppies! Beautiful Poppies! Slee-eee-eee-p my pretty, Slee-eee-eep! Muhahaahaaa 🙂

Lem
Another item clogging up the system is inadequately trained adjudicators and adjudicators using the circular file to clear their desks. I had a adjudicator schedule a hearing 3 times in 1995 during periods I told him I’d be traveling over seas and then closed the case. I reported it to OIG and there was a rubber stamp close but my appeal was still treated as open for years and is still open because I never received material; films and EEG… Read more »
Derek Frazier

This is a really great post about the “Reality Check Function” diminishing in some minds, and also terrifying to hear is that people that led great lives productive lives get squashed into a small matchbook box without outlets, feelings and people, sure, you got a problem. Unreal post man. Thank you for the personal story.

Emmett

Maybe my brothers and sisters who die everyday are the persons he is talking about! F him hum 7 weeks of recess didn’t do him any good only to come back and vote for a raise for himself and his buddies on both sides

Chris D.
I have been saying for years to anyone who will listen or een if they don’t: When the wars start calming down and they go to fix the budget and make cuts the first area will be the veterans. When I came back home and spent far too many hours watching cspan, I watched generals complain about retirement pay, especially the special pays given to soldiers medically retired due to injury in the war. The same generals who found ways… Read more »
Derek Frazier

alternative gas stations in Afghanistan, Lord Have Mercy

John, Vietnam 1969
Although Congressman Warren Davidson served in the US Army, from his bio it appears he has zero combat experience. Sure he served as an enlisted man in Germany during the late 1980’s to 1991, went to Ranger School and West Point, and all that; however, his own biography points to his lack of any war zone experience. He was never in a war zone nor has he ever lead soldiers in such situations. After obtaining his $250,000 West Point education… Read more »
Gary O Faas

Do you know if he’s ever been asked why he didn’t Volunteer days after 9/11, 2001 to actually be a Warrior? Then there was March of 2003 when we went into Iraq, and a highly trained Ranger could have been used.

Derek Frazier

Gary, I hope youre brass, it would really make that comment stick man. Brass needs to out this guys play on social media blasphemy. Anyways, I know a Marine or two in Boston who happen to be looking to irritate someone from West Point without Combat experience. Who knows, maybe theyve bred him as the next PAtton? To reform the compensation system?

Certainly not reforming warfare, is he?, Gary?

Derek Frazier

John, +1

James Oneill
That’s like saying the elderly are clogging up the social security system with their overwhelming number of applications for benefits. Well, for a pen-pushing, keyboard commando like WARREN DAVIDSON, it’s beyond his grasp and understanding just how the VA would actually process disability benefits for any or all REAL veterans who come forward to receive what they so rightly deserve. So what’s this clown in a suit’s standard of measure for disability? Double amputee? Missing half a skull from a… Read more »
Derek Frazier

+1

Crazy elf

Hey, namnibor, after reading all these comments, sounds to me Rep. Warren Davidson is almost like a Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Bobbie McDuck in his resume!

#29
This is the guy that replaced Boehner in Cincinnati…….. all he was doing was testing the waters to see how PO’d people will get ,,,,,, in the end veterans will be blamed for the high cost of the VA system. He will cherry pick, as another commenter posted, the ‘instances’ where ‘mooching’ occurred …after he floats this balloon with the citizenry……. . then he will try to convince non-disabled veterans who use the VA healthcare system that the disabled vets… Read more »
Eric Rearden
He is right. Anyone who knows about entitlement benefits knows there are always a certtain number of people trying to get something to which they are not entitled. Law of 1. Human nature and 2. Law of averages. Some vets always have a claim going incase there is a change in law or more often hoping a different VA rating specialist will look at the same evidence and come to a different conclusion. Then the appeals that have zero chance… Read more »
namnibor

Which VSO ‘Hat’ do you wear, if any?

namnibor
I asked because Veterans definitely tend to have a better sense of integrity and quite often a Veteran has to be at or near death’s door for someone to finally make sense that it’s “time” to finally make that VA Service Connection Claim. Having gone through the SSA/SSDI meat grinder and the VA meat grinder, I can tell you I saw MANY Americans trying to pull one or many over SSA but in my years with my own personal VA… Read more »
91Veteran
Given your history, you may very well have knowledge of those who are trying to game the system, but there is no way to convince me that they are clogging the system to the point the VA is in the situation it is in today. Particularly when so many adjudicators rubber stamp a denial on many first claims. Filing a claim or an appeal does not prevent the VA from scheduling timely appointments as we saw in Phoenix and elsewhere,… Read more »
Crazy elf

Also, did you know ‘adjudicators’ get paid taxpayers dollars for each claim they deny!
I know this to be fact! So go on with the VA is overwhelmed with claimants! If they did their job right the first time, they wouldn’t be in the fix their in now!

91Veteran
It seems this douche nozzle wants to tout his peace time military service when it helps his business or political career, while smearing any other veteran, peace or war time, as moochers. Earlier news stories reported him as a Ranger but didn’t mention a time period insinuating his service may have been in Iraq or Afghanistan. It doesn’t matter when he served, but the suggestion it was recent does. Too bad it wasn’t. He may have gotten a very quick… Read more »
namnibor
IN this day of tricks people use with social media with full intentions of gaining “likes & followers”, it would seem outrageous no chance of passing Bills are one Veteran despiser is attempting to do…to give his calling card. Would the same Koch Brothers whom back some ‘Veteran Groups’ be one of Davidson’s donors? How many contracts with the VA and DoD has his companies gained using that “Veteran Preference”? West Point Preference? How many Disabled Veterans does Davidson give… Read more »
Guy

It’s very easy for Davidson to submit a bill which has virtually no chance of passing. It’s nothing more than BS as he knows congress would never accept the VA as their medical provider.

He does appear to be one of those republicans that simply does not support veterans. I would hope veterans would not support him or his company.

Lloyd
I know this to be true personally. I am a 40% disabled Marine with disfiguring scars, nerve damage, hearing loss, and a twice repaired knee, all occurring in my 8 years of active service. A civilian coworker of mine was active duty Air force as well as his wife who retired with 20 years of service. His friend was a reviewing physician for the VA and did him a favor by giving his wife 80% disability. She sat behind a… Read more »
namnibor
Put this story in your pipe and smoke it: WASHINGTON — Sen. Claire McCaskill called on the Pentagon to investigate ties that a general on the Joint Chiefs of Staff had to a defense contractor after USA TODAY reported he had been fired last week. Brig. Gen. Michael Bobeck was fired for having an extramarital affair, but USA TODAY revealed that he had lived rent free in the home of a defense contractor. McCaskill, a Missouri Democrat and member of… Read more »
namnibor

“”http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/senator-seeking-investigation-into-general/ar-BBwI6na?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=AARDHP””

namnibor

Sure looks like at least THREE top tier Generals have been fired recently because they were MOOCHING. The elite should not throw their stars around in a glass conference room.

Derek Frazier
Replying to Lloyd: Sounds like a fair deal once again. 20 years of service. My back is shit. Give me money. OK! Thanks. Go away. Now we have these cockroach actuaries beginning to surface disguised as concerned citizens that still dont have anything that could save more than 50 million maybe 100 million per year without causing problems to it beyond the savings. I would also even increase the amount of fraud inside compensation to at least 15% of the… Read more »
ME Williams

Rep Davidson, I hope you and other members of our congress will continue to root out the dishonest folks that give all service men and women a bad image to the general public. There are many folks out there that truly deserve the help. They answered the call to duty and unknowingly suffered many injuries and should be justly rewarded for their sacrifices.

gfy

What looks like a douche-bag, talks like a douche-bag, and thinks like a douche-bag? Rep. Warren Davidson. That’s who.
Nobody gives a rat’s ass what the turd has to say.

Derek Frazier

Thank you

Bob Perry
Actually, I am also a veteran and I know both Warren Davidson AND Daniel Gade. 1) For those who are bad-mouthing Daniel Gade, stop spreading your ignorance and go google his story. You have absolutely NO CLUE what you’re talking about but, for those who do know Daniel Gade, your comments are embarrassing … to you. 2) I was present at the meeting when Warren Davidson made his original comment about “moochers.” Knowing the press, you should also know (or… Read more »
Derek Frazier
The rep. Davidson was a brass buckeye. Hmm. Weird to be calling out warriors on national TV with no rebuke? And to think, he is new to office only 3-4 months, and he is getting right to the heart of the problem in America, soon: Warriors vs Civilians. Silver spoon millennials with hardened warriors taking order from them. “Mr entitled, silver spooner, west pointer”. Anyone ever call you these things Rep Davidson? Im not that impressed with the fact that… Read more »
Derek Frazier
And I wanted to add, that in no way whatsoever, should this leave a bookmark in this guys experience, where he gets to lead the charge of even pick up the briefcase for a warrior that has done their research properly, for which there are FAR more than in these idiots’ offices. But, please, everyone. Remember this guy, put a google alert on him and always give him some taste of defeat. There are more choices in the congress and… Read more »
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