hines va hospital

Corpses of dead veterans were found rotting for months in Hines VA Hospital morgue, some bodies liquefying before being buried.

VA denied allegations that the huge delay in providing veterans with “dignified and timely burials” were “consistent” problems. Instead, the agency is trying to deflect allegations apparently asserting the liquefaction of corpses before providing burial is an inconsistent problem.

HINES VA HOSPITAL VETERAN CORPSES

Hines VA Hospital spokesman Rick Fox disputed the allegations, kind of:

“We take whistle-blower allegations very seriously and absolutely agree that all of our veterans deserve dignity and respect, in life and in death. While our investigation into this matter is still ongoing, we have found allegations related to consistent problems with dignified and timely burials to be unsubstantiated. However, we have taken this opportunity to review our policies and procedures and are currently working to improve them.”

Senator Mark Kirk exposed the problem with the corpses in addition to other scandals at the facility over the past few years. “Hines VA — the hospital that has been overrun with cockroaches and mold and left vets waiting for care for months on secret wait lists, has reached a new low in the treatment of our veterans.”

Kirk continued, “We now have reports of bodies being left to decompose in the morgue for months on end.”

According to a complaint, “Some veteran’s remains have been left in our hospital morgue for 45 days or more until they are stacked to capacity at times.”

It should be noteworthy that Sharon Helman, the felon from the Phoenix VA wait list scandal, was formerly head of Hines VA. Perhaps the string of skeletons that followed her all link back to the same group of derelicts?

WHY IS CHICAGO, ILLINOIS NOT PROTECTING VETERANS?

What concerns me about the behavior at Hines VA is that Chicago and Illinois law enforcement are not protecting veterans and their families from the fraudulent and dangerous behavior of federal employees there.

Perhaps the reason things are not getting better at Hines or elsewhere is that there are millions of dollars at stake in fraudulent schemes perpetrated by various federal employees including the Department of Veterans Affairs.

At Hines VA Hospital, rumor has it there are ties between the facility and some kind of gray market for high-end art. This would make sense given the present art scandal being exposed at various facilities nationwide.

I plan to write about this in the future, but suffice it to say problems are all over. VA is supposed to highlight veteran artwork in its

VA is supposed to highlight veteran artwork in its facilities, but it is instead commissioning high-end paintings of its former secretaries.

Personally, I have been to many VA hospitals and Hines VA Hospital is one of the creepiest I have ever seen. The old hospital stretches for one-mile end to end. Now it includes space for animal experiments on the second floor.

Crazytown. Hines has its own zip code and is basically its own town. I personally know of no other VA that has that kind of latitude.

Let me know if your VA hospital has its own zip code or if you know why Hines has its own zip code.

Source: http://tribunist.com/news/a-new-low-even-for-the-va-vets-corpses-found-rotting-in-chicago-vas-morgue/

GuyFawkes24601
GuyFawkes24601

This is bad, very bad.

CorpsmanuP! (@Tang1967)
Like you said Ben, the local level state offices and law enforcement are hands off because they receive federal funding. It is like the corrupt DOJ entities in each state that have to defend VA in lawsuits. They will lie and claim sovereign immunity When all hell breaks loose, because they are putting are national security at risk with mass corruption, DOJ , VA will fold because they are not operationally ready like the military. These entities are supposed to… Read more »
iratevet24601
iratevet24601

point of fact I don’t think our military is all that operationally ready

namnibor

That more than likely started roughly seven and 3/4 years ago and counting. Not that ‘change I can believe in’.

namnibor
I would NOW like to hear Obama’s answer to any family member asking at a Military Town Hall, “Mr. President, why do you allow lazy-assed VA employees to disrespect the bodies of American Servicemen & Women as found at Hines VAMC, you know, your old hometown area?!!!!???” “Mr. President, what IF this were your own family members?” POTUS: “It’s not perfect, but it’s getting better. The notion that the VA would leave corpses as reported is just not true. I… Read more »
namnibor
By The Way– I am YET to hear this story on any mainstream news program. Nada. Not even on the BBC. WTF?!!! Heads need to roll for gross negligence and I believe some crimes have been committed here. Many crimes and State/Federal mandates. This should not matter one bit that it’s Federal Property or Agency. If the VA takes such great care of our corpses, just think about the same mentality treating us while we are living. What’s next? Every… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

namnibor,
I believe there’s a “criminal statute” which covers this. It has something to do with the way one “treats a corpse!”
I also believe it’s considered a “felony”!
Why the State or Federal Courts, or DOJ’s, don’t become involved is a mystery all onto itself!?!?!
Oh, wait, they’re just as complicit!

91Veteran
91Veteran
On the VA is Lying FB page, there have been several posts from various media outlets in this, all basically saying the same thing. But no outrage. If you search on bodies left in funeral homes, there are over a million hits reporting stories of bodies left in funeral homes from Texas, Tennessee, Florida, Rhode Island, Michigan, etc. In every case, state investigations happened, several were arrested, and the worst in Texas were charged with felony abuse of a corpse.… Read more »
Reuben Castro Acosta
same old crap differant day with va dc HQ SEWAGE RATS VA BUDGET FOR 2017 182 BILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ VA DC HQ JUST KEEPS ON SAYING TO VETS BEND OVER @ GET SOME MORE CRAP UP YOUR REAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
iratevet24601
iratevet24601

I read the article on Friday and they seemed more concerned over the cockroaches and mold than they were about the honorable deceased

juicy
juicy

The VA feeds these corpses to the coackroaches. That is, after the directors and McD’s staff fill their bellies.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
It looks like Chicago, Illinois is the “ground zero” of all corruption. The City is wrought with shootings and death. During the Presidential Debate, last Monday, Mr. Trump brought up statistics concerning the “Chicago Crime Rates”! One reporter, concerning the criminal activity in Chicago, mentioned, “Al Capone would be proud!” I have to agree with him/her! I can’t remember the reporters name! This article is just one more disgusting antithesis of why Americans need to become more aware of how… Read more »
namnibor
I wonder how many times the Hines VAMC Animal Experiment Labs on 2nd Floor has mixed-up animal experiments with living Veterans or deceased Veterans? Sad to say but I wager that the animals from that lab probably are given much more dignity….then again, in a “Sweeney Todd” kind of way, the Hines VAMC Cafeteria’s meatloaf may have a chute directly above where the animals are recycled while some hack at this VAMC pockets the $$$ for meat orders. Yeah, I… Read more »
iratevet24601
iratevet24601

Would explain the behavior of the Idjits that work at VA Prion disease from the lab animals or residual INDs from the research animals being processed for their Sweeney Todd dining facility bet they hired Mrs Lovett to be their chef. VETS do not dine at Hines VA Cafeteria

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

After reading this, I too would be questioning “WHERE” Hines VHA received their “meat” to feed to all who eat there!

Of, course, anyone who went to Nam has more than likely, “tasted” the fresh delicacy of DOG!
Yes, I went there!!!!!

namnibor
I wonder if the Hines VAMC will attempt to place the blame on the Veteran’s families for not claiming the bodies? This also brings to question if the VA is having trouble keeping-up with the 22 Veteran Suicides each and every day? Given Chicago’s path to overtake Detroit in violence uptick, statistically, am thinking a number of these Veterans may be victims of Chicago’s violence as well. Have read countless stories of elder Vets having home invasions or outright assaulted… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I hope the TROLLS do come on today!
They’re going to be ridiculed unmercifully by every loyal patriotic veteran and American!
Like you’ve stated namnibor, this DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR!
And any asswipe who believes, or states, this does happen. Is either a fool or a complete idiot!

This story is beyond belief.

iratevet24601
iratevet24601

Elf, have you seen the people in the streets nowadays? Most of them ARE complete fools and idjits. It will be as it has always been the tail WILL wag the dog and the MSM will do whatever the PTB tells them to do.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I suggest everyone call their “conservative radio stations” and explain what the hell is going on at Hines!
Maybe then the MSM might get embarrassed enough to run a story? Can’t hurt to try, right?

91Veteran
91Veteran
I’ve searched a few times using various terms, and it’s shocking to see how few stories there actually are on this. The local CBS station in Chicago reported on it, along with Fox News. Most reports are on blogs, often veterans only blogs. What is pathetic is the article on Snopes claiming the story is mostly false, mostly based on a picture used with previous articles. They also claim it’s mostly false based on only two bodies mentioned in the… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
With almost everything that is wrong with the VA this is one of the Worst and most unacceptable. Now to ask the questions. How does someone at Haines VAMC “profit” from desecrating dead Veterans at the VAMC? How many of the dead have incidents of reported medical care after they died? How many of the deaths were improperly and untimely reported? A recent New York Times article may point in the direction of how the VA may be profiting off… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey Robby McDonald. This is happening on your watch. There is no excuse for this. How many Veteran’s Bodies do you and your organization have hidden around the Country right Now!!

Robby McDonald, how Many Hundreds of Millions are you Billing insurance companies, Medicaid and Medicare for the care you claim dead Veterans are receiving?

namnibor

Right out of a Robin Cook novel. But even worse. Was organ harvesting involved as well?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Seymore,
I wonder how many of these dead veterans, “pilling up”, had fiduciaries?
If it’s occurring at two VHA’s, it has to be occurring at more, right?

namnibor

You all should read the comments below that article Ben posted here. There’s a good number of VA employees posting on there that Hines is a WONDERFUL place. Even a few VSO’s popped-in to state how there were **only** two or three bodies left for months…as if even -1- is okay??? WTF are these employees smoking??!!

Don Avant

Lie, deny stall till you die…EVEN AFTER YOU’RE DEAD…This is un-frikin-believable..

RC Lackey
RC Lackey

The reason that Hines has its own zip code is due to the fact when it was originally constructed it had the Maywood Post Office and airmail field.

Jo3n

Wow, this is too much. I’m starting to believe our biggest problem is getting the message to the public. I can’t believe the public would know that all the stuff going on and not raise a stink about it. I mean really been, what’s going on ?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
OK, a couple of things here! I wonder how soon Christopher Wirtjes, aka: “Mr.Worthless”, gets to retire with full benefits? He’s the one responsible for this. His ‘title’ is “Chief of Patient Administration Services”! How he got there is a mystery. Especially after getting caught manipulating wait times before! Watch the video in the “link” Ben uses. It’s definitely a “slam” against Hillary, aka: “The Butcher of Benghazi”! And a “plug”, rightfully so, to Mr. Donald Trump! (Basically, IF you… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
I have said several times before that I didn’t support Trump. I do now, based on the reporting of Trump speaking at this event. A good majority of the media are claiming Trump said veterans suffer from PTSD because they are weak and can’t handle it. Hell even media reports in which they quote the veteran as saying that is not what Trump meant still slant their reports as saying vets with PTSD are weak. While the same media ignore… Read more »
namnibor
I just came from a good friend’s place and he is usually right on-top of current scandals and news and when I just informed him of the Hines VAMC mess he thought I was making something up over-the-top but then he thought about it, grimaced, and said, “You know this has NOT been on the mainstream news at all over the weekend nor even today…yet. This is our problem: THE MEDIA. The VA Public Relations Spin Dr. must be spinning… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
namnibor, In the article Ben uses, there’s a video from “Foxnews” explaining what occurred at Hines VHA. That’s where I got the “name” for that asswipe, aka: “Mr. Worthless”. Because the person speaking, couldn’t pronounce his name! Like in the old Superman comics, Mr. XZYKCKRPS, or whatever that little guys name was, who was Superman’s Nemesis! Yet, after Fox reported it, there’s been nothing from other “Main Stream Medias”! Like I said earlier, we need to contact “conservative radio stations”.… Read more »
Bill
Bill

My question is, how many of these veterans were killed due to malpractice / neglect?

What is the law in IL to properly handle unclaimed deceased?

Craig Files

Inexcusable. Why I have given specific instructions not let me die in one.

namnibor
Same here. Hell, just prop me up next to a lake with a view and I will go quietly when that time comes. Wanted to be buried in family land but now as a farmer you cannot even have such a family plot because of regulations and code…in farm country, Indiana. (many reasons I live in another State for years now…also, the Indy VAMC is a nightmare) So, my brother and I will not let our demise be BY the… Read more »
Hondo
Hondo

Where is the outrage from the Congressionally chartered veteran service organizations??????

Cashing their 6 figure pay checks and planning the next million dollar+ national convention, (bull shit party). They could give a rats ass about some dead vets.

namnibor

They, along with the VA now have their funding for 2017, so what do they care? Where’s Rep. Miller’s **stern words**? McCain? OhBummer?

Where’s Sec. McDonald?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Miller, McCain and (almost) ALL of the Dumbocrats,(Obummer is probably off golfing), and the rest of the underachieving asswipes are back in their home states “STUMPING FOR REELECTION!”

Only a few are sticking around Washington DC earning their pay, ie:
People like Rep. Jordan, Rep. Gowdey, Rep. Chaffetz and a few more are busy trying to make our country safe!
They know how fucked up our government has become! They want to help fix it!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
The wife and I have “taken care” of our “final days on this earth!” It’s called “MEDCURE”! it’s a “Whole Body Donation”! They take care of EVERY THING. Then they cremate the remaining parts for your loved one! It’s all FREE! I believe they’re out of Washington State or Oregon. We also have a ‘living will’ to insure our last wishes. Never thought I’d be discussing this. Yet, these are things we “older farts” need to know about. If anyone… Read more »
namnibor

@crazy elf- I just do not want to eventually read on here where the VA contracts all it’s VAMC cafeteria chili and chili crackers from a company called ‘MEDCURE’. LOL! Seriously, not far from the level of crazy we are at now!!!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Brother, they have nothing whatsoever to do with VA.
If they ever do, the wife and I will discontinue their services!

namnibor

Silly me! A Kardashian was robbed in Paris and it has ALL the news! Must be tough to lose 10 MILLION in jewelry…her “traveling jewelry”….silly me. Seems a Kardashian has blotted out the significant Veteran VA scandal news before in the past from mainstream feed. We must be persistent just send this story about Hines VAMC repeatedly over time and just maybe…

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

And then millennials get angry when we older folks explain why they are taken advantage of by “certain members” of Congress. They’re completely at a loss for words. When we explain taxpayers will be paying for all those free things, (ie; education and healthcare amoung many other things), they want.
They’ve been so dumbed down by our government run educational system, “Common Core” for instance, it’s pathetic!
Did y’all know “CIVICS” is no longer being taught in public schools!?

Bill
Bill

Most schools have also dropped industrial arts

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Bill,
There’s a lot of great classes the public schools have dropped.
I remember taking “shop” from 8th grade through my senior year. It included drafting, metal, wood and automotive shops.
Have I forgotten any?

Bill
Bill

Welding, I also did the same as you. I spent 30 years as a computer programmer for work, people seemed to be some what amazed if what I can make with my hands. I iften get asked where I learned ti do such things, I smile and reply public schools. They were not always screwed up.

Jo3n
You are so right about other VSO’s, where are they ? I can’t believe this kind of thing goes on in a huge hospital , mile-long? Then there’s no one there that sees it smells it ? What a way for them to go . What the hell are VSO’s for ? They’re definitely not doing any good for most veterans , especially the dead ones . We took better care of Osama bin Laden . This just makes me… Read more »
Bill
Bill

Amen

Jo3n

Hey Ben, I have a question. How can we make sure this doesn’t happen to us ? If I die at home what can I do to make sure they don’t take me to rot at some VA ? I’m serious .

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Hey folks, here’s a brand new Utube video out about an hour or so ago! titled; “Congress Getting Ready to Pull Security Clearance From Hillary Clinton” It’s about 9:00 minutes long. There’s three “bills” – One is – H.R. 5697 The other is – S. 3135 Both are closing in on people who “Carelessly” do not follow proper protocol when handling classified material! Another bill, (I believe H.R. 889), in front of Congress concerns – “non profit” (501-C-3) U. S.… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
This is real life folks. “Hillary Clinton Wanted to Drone Wikileaks!!!” Published 3 Oct 2016 By David Seaman Hillary Clinton considers Mr. Assange, of Wikileaks, “a soft target”! Meaning, the ‘Embassy’, where Assange is at, is a “fair (” SOFT”) target”! What kind of diabolical and evil person would even consider such an atrocity? This speaks volumes about a person who would want to occupy the highest office in our land! The only “reason” behind this, would be because, Hillary… Read more »
namnibor
The same diabolical types that I just saw in news that the Syrian Refugees now pose another problem…you will never guess….the enemy’s men have found that dressing-up as woman and crossing into borders and such so much fun, they have started accessorizing. So now, these European countries are having to do physical ‘checks’ to make sure the men are men and the woman are not men!!! Thought you’d appreciate that, crazy elf in light of today’s glum article. It’s true,… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Off Topic but important.

Infowars will be covering the live presentation by Julian Assange for Wiki leaks at 2:00 a.m. . Clearly the information that is being release concerns Hillary Clinton and with this 2 am time chosen for the release it is meant to target the minds of the folks in Europe.

A link to the sites u-tube channel that is counting down to the link is currently active and can be reached at:

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-sVGIp6E9g”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

The 2 am time chosen is also clearly showing that the release is also meant to influence the hearts and minds of those in the Middle East.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I hope we get it here. I’ll look for it in the morning.
Not been sleeping very well over the past few days.

There’s been quite a few questions over what Assange is going to release. I hope it’s good enough to stop “The Butcher of Benghazi!”
Maybe that’s why she wants to do a “drone strike” on him!

namnibor

I do not think he is the type to not have a Plan B, C & D for just an occasion, tied biometrically with his heartbeat and should it stop, Google’s servers will have a massive dump. 🙂

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

If you are up and watching, a better link to the WikiLeaks press confess with less interruptions through Right Side News.

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947fP6QTmBo”

91Veteran
91Veteran
First off, little Ricky Fox is a liar. At what point is any non VA employee allowed to call bullshit to their claims that another whistle blowers claims are unsubstantiated? Given just the past 3 years, one would think the VA is the best running federal agency in history given all the claims that are said to be unsubstantiated…by the VA. He is a liar because one of the first news reports I read on this described and quoted from… Read more »
Dina Padilla

I SENT IT OUT ON FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AS TO WHY THE MAJOR MEDIA HASN’T PICKED UP THIS HORRID STORY AND THAT ANIMALS GET TREATED BETTER. GOVT EMPLOYEES IN HINES CHICAGO NEED THEIR ASSES FIRED AT THE VERY LEAST AND PUT IN JAIL FOR DESECRATING VETS CORPSES. IT’S ALL SO UNSPEAKABLE AND UNCONSCIONABLE!

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