SURVEY: Will The Next Bonus Army Protest Be At Trump’s Mar-a-Lago?

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Veterans pissed about Trump’s selection of David Shulkin as VA Secretary should consider our next Bonus Army protest location – Trump’s exclusive, members-only resort Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Florida.

Personally, I would prefer this protest at Trump’s most exclusive resort sometime next winter, when it is crazy cold where I am at in Minnesota. Just be sure to bring your tanning lotion, a beach towel, and some Sharpes for protest signs.

Speaking of Sharpes, Trump played politics with veterans lives when he picked Shulkin, which is basically an endorsement of Hillary Clinton and inevitably the corrupt VA cronies lurking at high levels behind the scenes at VA.

In no way, shape or form was Trump’s selection of Shulkin a smart move in the long-term unless Trump wanted to shake loose his massive support from veterans in favor of the few hundred thousand union employees happy about the selection.

Where is the reform, Trump?

One commenter, Ron Nesler, founder of VA Is Lying, highlighted his forecast for his VA reform group on Facebook. “Now that Trump has endorsed business as usual at VA, watch this group grow.” And Nesler is right.

Support of the status quo will not move VA toward greater accountability, at least not yet.

If you are concerned, be sure to give your two cents at the bottom of this post in the survey to sent the Trump Team a message and hit tweet on the message here.

@realDonaldTrump Nice puke move with Shulkin at VA, stud Click to Tweet

The real issue here is the long-term impact of veterans being denied what we were promised after many of us voted on just the veteran issue.

Without a backlash, future politicians will consider the veteran vote as one that does not require follow through.

Vets Deserve Great – Shulkin Not Great

To me, the Shulkin pick was worse than the lackluster selection of McDonald before. Some of you may recall veterans were hoping to Toby Cosgrove or someone like that. Instead, we ended up with McDonald, and everyone said, “Well, let’s give him a shot – – wait and see.”

We ended up with a lot of internal reforms. Some good. Some bad. We also ended up with high-level employees who committed fraud or related bad acts but who were also never fired. McDonald failed to fix Veterans Choice and wait time problems still plague Phoenix VA just like they did years ago.

For McDonald, my favorite positive was the increased focus on customer service. My most hated bad was the inability of senior leadership to hold its staff accountable while also rooting out contractor fraud.

It is still going on and will continue since Shulkin will likely pursue the same course McDonald was on. This selection was a huge win for Senator Johnny Isakson, who early on supported keeping McDonald back when everyone thought Hillary Clinton would win.

Given what has now transpired, Trump should have just swallowed his pride and kept McDonald as is rather than promoting his number 3 guy. At least McDonald was comfortable in his office and had a lay of the land, so to speak.

As for Shulkin, what on earth will he be able to accomplish without massive support from power brokers within DC, which is the opposite of what Trump promised for veterans?

This makes me wonder what douche inside his transition team told him this would be a good trade-off? I can only assume there is a lot more to the story than what meets the eye.

I can only assume (or hope and pray) there is a lot more to the story than what meets the eye.

Some are saying, “We should wait and see.” Well, that is what we did with McDonald, but the brave reformer we hoped for never showed up. And the reforms we sought was to root out the wait time fraud, reform the union chokehold over VA, and increase access to Veterans Choice, a program so rife with problems now that many civilians doctors refuse to accept it as coverage.

And if we get totally screwed over the next six months? Where should we go? DC?

To me, the Mar-a-Lago Club would be a great choice for a protest.

Even if Trump does not show up, we could at least enjoy the weather at Palm Beach. And, unlike the Bonus Army protest in the 30’s, we could easily bathe on the beach.

Missed Opportunity

This all could have been avoided if Trump delivered the product he asked us to vote for.

He sold us his promise of massive reform in the most corrupt agency in the federal bureaucracy. When it came time for us to cash in… he gave us a stiff middle finger.

Now, it is too late for us to ask for a refund, unlike many of his products from those infomercials.

Again, whoever advised Trump that he should sell out veterans was a complete moron, and many of us are disappointed in Trump for buying it after all the “drain the swamp” rhetoric.

What a joke.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, fuck you.

Post-Shulkin Announcement

Stunned, the veteran community has largely remained quiet about President-elect Trump and his unexpected selection of Sec VA David Shulkin.

The dinosaur Veteran Service Organizations basically got the continuation of McDonald they wanted and that Hillary Clinton would have pushed for.

Meanwhile, disappointed whistleblowers and victimized veterans feel like they just dropped the soap in a prison shower.

Reality Of This Pick

We, the veterans, ended up with the Hillary Clinton B-Team.

In the end, we are basically no better with Trump in this capacity, which is a pathetic and misguided move on his part. (Let’s hope his other Cabinet picks pan out better.)

Almost two-thirds of veterans voted for Donald Trump.

We all thought Rep. Jeff Miller would be his pick to reform VA. Over 80 percent of veterans wanted Miller as head of the agency. (Miller supposedly backed out – he wanted less work for more money.)

Now, that is not what we get? We vote but we get screwed only then to support what?

What is in it for us to tow the party line now?

Do we need memberships at Mar-a-Lago to get some respect? Or, maybe enough of us do not have enough pull to hold Trump’s feet to the fire.

And if we do not take a stand, will future candidates get the message that veteran voters are merely pliable tools Republicans can manipulate because we love our country more?

Why Not Jeff Miller?

Donald Trump propped up Rep. Jeff Miller as being the selection we would get if Trump were elected. After the election, the Trump frontrunner was negated because he was not a veteran.

Now, we get a non-veteran nominee who is not where near the best of the litter.

So now what? What is the story?

As I said above, Sen. Isakson, chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs, wanted McDonald to stay on. However, all the anti-McDonald rhetoric made that impossible. So, Isakson likely negotiated a deal with Trump to keep the McDonald B-Team to help Trump in other ways.

But this apparent bait and switch will not sit will with many veterans but VA employees are reportedly happy with the selection. After Trump’s election, 85 percent of veterans surveyed preferred Jeff Miller over other candidates for the position.

Instead, we veterans, the most vocal group of Americans, are being told to expect less than what we were promised. In fact, we are told to suck it up with the VA staff Hillary Clinton would have kept in power?

BS.

Trump would not take it lying down and neither should we.

Whoever advised him that trading off the interests of veterans after everything we have been through was a liar who set up Trump. We will make his agenda a tough one moving forward if he does not fall in line after we paid to play with our 2 to 1 vote.

A Trump Resort Mar-a-Lago Veteran Protest?

Welcome to the counter-movement against our entrenched, overpaid and oversexed VA establishment, its bloated AFGE union and corrupt executives running the chokehold on veterans’ benefits and healthcare.

It is time we rain hellfire on our corrupt VA employees since Trump, our last shot, kicked us in the shorts.

Most of us have been kicked in the pants before. This is nothing new. We will merely need to unite against the corruption without assistance from the president we elected.

We need to work with whistleblowers now more than ever to expose corruption within the agency. Whistleblowers need to come out of bureaucracy and start leaking anything useful to force reforms through the press.

A Let-Down

What else is new? We got no “change” with Obama. Now we get no “accountability” with Trump. Screw it. This is like hiring a new employee who flips you off after working the first day.

We need to flush out the riffraff but lift up those inside, who are many of the outstanding employees fighting for us in the beltway and in each VA facility against the special interest cronies who continue to loot the coffers of millions.

If Trump will not dredge the VA swamp, we will do it for him.

Each honest American working within VA is a spy against the globalist interests corroding our country. We can flush it out with whistleblowers.

Sadly, veterans would prove much better allies than his yellowbelly Republican piggies who suckle at the hind tit of the corporate elite. And I hope Trump figures that out sooner than later.

Maybe veterans should consider staging a sit-in at one of his fancy resorts?

But what do veterans think about these decisions?

Give us your feedback:

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CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!

A military veteran formation with precision flanking and force is needed. You cant show up somewhere looking like you got off the set of a Hamburger Helper commercial because they wont take you serious. Veterans need to stay focused on their health and always have a force at the ready to represent the rest. This is the VA’s way of neutralizing your skills. If they cannot neutralize you they use $$ and benefits to entice you in their jurisdiction so they can falsly prosecute you with trump up bs. Of course, you will have surrogates i.e DAV,American Legion VFW , you name it that will cheerlead and advocate for a #FAKEHospital aka Veterans Affairs
All that shit Trump has been talking will backfire against him if he is not true to his word or creed!
1. He’ll build a wall…. 2 days later gets jumped by a Marriachi Band.
2.He picks a lame Secretary……Gets throat punched by Mattis in an intel brief.
3.Melania Trump turns out to have Russian ties in her family.
4. Corpsman from the 3rd Battalion 7 Marines dabs with both middle fingers up on National TV at any VA Protest!

Fuck the VA!
StraightOuttaCampPendleton

Lem
Lem

Shit rolls down hill and it wasn’t rolling during the Obama Administration or the Congress during his administration. Let us see what happens. Will the shit roll at all as promised?

namnibor
namnibor

@Lem- The shit was simply piling-up under Obama into a huge steaming pile of poo and slowly sliding into a larger poo crater…and Obama kept saying the VA was getting cleaned-up and Obama had FULL CONFIDENCE in Sec. McDonald and the VA TO DO THE RIGHT THING. Obama said this repeatedly in his last few years, with nothing getting resolved.
Obama and his DOJ **REFUSED** to prosecute PROVEN FRAUD and CORRUPTION at the VA—FACT!!! If that is NOT shit building-up and rolling downhill from it’s crater, then I must just be a highly observant idiot if I am wrong….but I am NOT wrong.
Lem–I am stating to think you LOVE the VA exactly the way it is…your comments seem to prove as much.
If you cannot see the shit rolling downhill you are likely part of the problem.
Rant Out.

Lem
Lem

40 years ago the medical side in most facilities was better than it is now. Even then Cheyenne was a problem compared to Downtown LA and West LA, Downtown La being about the size of Cheyenne and neither having inpatient beds at the time. If it was better it can get better. And Cheyenne has in patient beds and is much better than it was in 1970 and in 2012.

So I see hope. And it was under Shulkins watch that Cheyenne got better given the shit that was rolling downhill from the press and the single congressman that Wyoming has. But Phoenix is a much bigger facility with many more retired veterans. It is a much more intractable situation with having a much larger number of shit heads to get rid of or make toe the line.

And that is the crux of it no matter who takes the helm. Don’t expect overnight miracles. But do hound for improvement. Be an activist and stay active or sit and whine about everything and every attempt. If there is no improvement within a year howl like crazy.

Lem
Lem

And if your VA facility and adjudication VARO is dysfunctional now howl like crazy continuously until its problems are addressed.

Lem
Lem

When I say “howl” I mean it helps a little to rant here. It helps a lot more to write an open letter to your congressman and send it to you local news outlets especially letters to the editor or your local news opinion commenter. The one thin Congressmen pay attention to is bad press. A published letter is the one they will read.

namnibor
namnibor

@Lem- You are dangerously assuming that I or other Vets do not already send such letters to Congressmen and Reps. I have to the degree that helped my own claim with the VA and SSDI but when it comes to the VA as an entity whole, it seems not many are willing to go against the mighty AFGE and VA.

Many on here over years have expressed we send such letters to our representatives, try to keep-up.

VAISLYING INC
VAISLYING INC

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james gallegos
james gallegos

we have no choice, but to wait. some veterans don’t have time to wait. Wow 20 veterans a day.

james gallegos
james gallegos

Here is some information you may want to read. The Holman Rule passed Jan 5, 2017.

Reviving this rule “Means lawmakers will be able to vote to cut pay and jobs of (” individuals workers”) or Groups of workers ( “Without getting input from the Agencies where the Employee’s work”)

According to the government publishing office : Any use of the rule requires that:

The Retrenchment must be Germane to the issue: It must retrench expenditures either by the number and salary of the Officers of the United States by the reduction of amounts of money covered by the Bill.

The Language the Appropriation provision must be confined solely to the purpose of Retrenching Expenditures.

The Reduction of the number and salary of the officers of the United States.

OR

” The Reduction of the Compensation of ANY person paid out of the Treasury of the United States”.

” Any Terminations or Pay cuts (” Would Have the Force of Law” ) and “Supersede ANY Civil Service or Other Employee Protections” )

This to me states that our Senator’s, Congressmen, Now have the Authority to fire any Federal Employee for Abuse of any Law or Statute. We have heard that Citizens are flooding their offices with complaints.

I believe we are still Citizens, So we need to act like we are Citizens and follow the example of the other Citizens and Call, write, over and over until we are heard.

We have a duty to our fellow veterans and those soon to be Veterans, to do what ever we need to, to stop Federal Employee’s from hurting any other Veteran.

In Other Words do it Now, Not Tomorrow. Tomorrow may not come for many Veterans, Unless we speak out Today !

I will fight, until I, We are Listened Too ! Traumatic Brain Injury or Not !

91Veteran
91Veteran

Lem, in response to your comments about Cheyenne improving…

It finally hit me that you might actually be right, that it IS improving…the question is, why? Why is Cheyenne improving when the rest of the VA system appears to be as corrupt as ever.
After that is answered, the question is, what specifically is improving at Cheyenne?
Is Cheyenne improving because it was identified as a part of the wait time scandal? I recall it being specifically named along with Phoenix and other places, but why has Cheyenne improved and Phoenix has not?
Why was Grand Junction named as part of the wait time scandal in reports, but not identified publicly?

Not much has changed at Grand Junction, although the Ortho clinic appears to have been cleaned up and re-staffed. I also know one of the worthless Patient Advocates has left which is good for us, but not good for some other VA where she may have landed. Its also not good when one of the remaining Patient Advocates is known by local congressional offices as being a liarVAo again, why has Cheyenne improved? A change in directors? Chief of Staff? Others?

Are Wyoming politicians not willing to accept BS excuses from the VA and demanding Cheyenne be fixed?

What specifically has improved at Cheyenne?

If we heard that, maybe we could get those changes at our own VA hospitals.

namnibor
namnibor

“[What a joke. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, fuck you.]”– Enough Said!!!

namnibor
namnibor

Benjamin- For the record, I do not think ANY Veteran should have to even consider a 5% reduction in Disability Benefits in order to reform the AFGE. If the AFGE and VA cannot or will not renegotiate terms of union contract, tell the AFGE to go to hell and find another host to torment and bleed dry.

I would be MORE WILLING to donate 5% of my Disability Benefits to YOU in order to hold the VA accountable, but NOT to do the job of reforming AFGE, that’s a scenario where somehow the AFGE would acquire that extra 5% from Veterans and we never see any returns from investment…nope, do not like that suggestion one bit and would like to kindly know where you were coming from with that suggestion?
Peace.

namnibor
namnibor

Benjamin- I guess I was wanting you to further qualify that suggested question of being willing to take a 5% reduction in disability benefits to reform the AFGE.

Are we not already paying too high of a collateral damage from 20+ Veteran Suicides a Day? Frustration?

Like I said, I would fully be willing to donate to your organization to hold the VA accountable but definitely not the job of reforming the AFGE, which should be a POTUS and VA Sec. with BALLS and a Congress to follow-through on sweeping renegotiated reforms via a renegotiated AFGE Contract.

Why do I express this? Because those assholes at AFGE would then find a way to subsidize their Union Legion by then demanding ALL Vets pay the AFGE Union Dues, but with absolutely no benefits from Union…just to get their 5% or 10% under the “guise” of reform…I guess my trust level is at my whit’s end.

I do not see Shulkin being a shake the cage of angry AFGE vermin for reform type of guy and actually see him as quite antisocial, reclusive as McDonald, our regular ‘Invisible Man VA Sec.”.

As far as Florida…I am way too much of a Northern/Nordic guy, and am with Benjamin on rather be dead of Winter. Add to fact meds I take make me even more nauseated at any weather temp above 70 F and loathe humidity.
With that said, an organized protest or gathering on D.C. I would definitely support…go right for the jugular and insure Trump is around when it takes place…there is a brand new Trump Hotel across from the Hill. Handily close.

As far as the Fuck You to Trump voters and Vets for appointing Shulkin; I almost think it may have come down to fact that NOBODY WANTED THE JOB so since McDonald was not considered, just had everyone move one seat over to the right….a cake walk of sorts. Not happy to say the least.
I bet Rosemary Williams just LOVES the selection of Shulkin.

Roger Bannon
Roger Bannon

Union must Go! Incompetent administrators and Union are the problem!

LittleSandyRiver
LittleSandyRiver

Can veterans have a union? What does it take to start a union? If we could have a union, would we be able to get someone powerful pitching for us to have proper medical care? Thanks

Jane white
Jane white

I so,agree!, I am for giving Ben money, each month, to help clean up the VA! We should rally, in numbers and have Ben run the crooked VA!!

DYSFUNCTIONAL VET FTVA !
DYSFUNCTIONAL VET FTVA !

Absolutely mind numbing decision, VA insider , another talking Head .I am convinced the goal is to kill as many veterans as possible , as quickly as possible. All the while making VA exec’s and cronies as Rich as possible. Wil Trump be joining them all at some lavish location for drinks and golf or strippers ? You know the in crowd , VA exec’s , defense contractors , generals , Military academy graduate’s ,Federal Union elites, OIG’S , SPECIAL COUNSEL, OUR SO. CALLED VETERANS ORGANISATION’S ELITES ,THE TALK ONLY POLITICIANS. WI’ll they All toast to more dead vet’s , will they dance on Our Graves ? Will Anyone at VA Ever be Held Accountable , let alone Prosecuted. It is tantamount to Murder , and Mass Murder at that .We are expendable , in these people’s eyes we always have been ? AFTER ALL THERES ENOUGH MONEY TO BE MADE FOR EVERYONE , DEAD VETERANS IS VERY LUCRATIVE , DON’T YOU KNOW .Yet again I guess they showed us ? HA , Ha , HA ! “Thank You For Your Service ” SNAFU , OUT

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – One reason these fools want to keep the AFGE is to protect the lack of accountability and job security due to the incompetence of many VA employees. If the VA’s management was operating professionally, they wouldn’t need a union. There are companies in this country who offer great pay, excellent benefits, job security, and have an open door policy to solve issues. Why can’t the VA leadership implement such qualities? Because this would disrupt the flow of power, bonuses, bullying, nepotism, favoritism, and many other negative aspects of the Old Boy Network.

The above results in the piss poor care for Veterans, who signed on the dotted line to protect this nation including VA employees, who are supposed to take care of Veterans in their time of need. Frigging heartless.

President Obama didn’t want to put much energy into solving the VA scandals, because it was too close for him to leave office. He knew that to clean up the VA would take a few years. Therefore, no Veteran blood in his hands in order to protect his legacy. Money is not the issue! And this dangerous type of thinking rolls downhill as well. Why?

The rest of the Executive Office Members, along with the U.S. House of Representatives [Congress] and the Members of the Senate, all know that the VA is in need of desperate reformation [cleaning house]. Shame on these folks. They all know what is going on in the VA system.

Even the MSM News Anchoring Correspondents know about the issues within the VA. Do you hear any consistent updates pertaining to the VA from these people while watching their news programs? Hell no. MSM News Anchors are for themselves. If they truly cared about the lives of Veterans, they would keep the VA in the limelight until it was truly reorganized and reformed.

Our leaders make solving the VA issues so complex. I nominate Ben for VA Secretary! Ben, clean house and take no prisoners.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Second paragraph needs to be restricted. My mind was ticking.

Roger Bannon
Roger Bannon

Amen! Union runs the VA. Non Veteran Administrators are incompetent with Cronyism rapid. I say Privitize it. Start over with Vets running it.

91Veteran
91Veteran

You hit the mail on the head.

Operate professionally.

Many involved in providing medical care in the private sector operate professionally, because they have a very serious vested interest in doing so. Not only can they be held personally liable for mistakes, but they can be quickly fired, prosecuted or lose their license for being incompetent.
There is no similar incentive in the VA. At all. Hell you can beat a veteran to death and still be on the payroll 2 years later.

Now, as for Obama reforming the VA, you are wrong. Obama made zero attempt at reforming the VA in 8 years, which is why we are in the situation we are.
Within his first month in office, he floated the idea of veterans with service connected disabilities pay for our own medical care.
The VSOs hadn’t lost their balls at that point and that never happened.
What did happen was a focus on getting Obama care passed, and once it was done, protecting the idea of government run health care. There was no way any leftist politician or newshack was going to go after Obama for poor VA care because it would put the lie to how good government run care would be under Obama care. It just wasn’t going to happen.
Obama care passed, and many found out the hard way what VA bureaucracy could be like.

It took a whistle blower Doctor and 40 dead vets for someone to notice what the VA had become.

What changed somewhat is Trump. The media is also changing because they desperately wanted Hillary, so Trump will find out the hard way what happens when he listens to DC insiders.

You have to ask, why is Obama care so bad that it must be repealed immediately, but the same old bullshit under Shulkin should be acceptable to veterans?

91Veteran
91Veteran

Mail=nail. Friggin autocowreck.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Restructured. I need a clonazepam.

Bill
Bill

I hate that shit

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Bill -I hate that poo too. At least show some discussion. Depends on what works for people, along with being aware of the risks, and being closely monitored.

Bill
Bill

Am sorry for lack of discussion. It made me sleep all the the, I was like zombie like. Currently I take lexapro and trazadone. They are not a cure but tend to help take the edge off a liitle depending on the day.

Over the years I felt I being used as a nazi experiment as they threw the kitchen sink at me. These are the only 2 drugs that seem to help a little without all the damn side effects.

Again I am sorry for my short and direct response, very anxious today with a side order of paranoid being served cold.

Regards

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Bill – No problem Brother. I hear you about finding a balance with medications. And, I very well know about that dam anxiety. Hard to get to sleep many nights. I’ve been taking supplements to help. Hang in there Brother!

Bill
Bill

What supplements do you take?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Bill – Sorry for getting back to you a little late. I’m having a big problem with getting services from the VA in which they already promised me. I know that I’m not the only Veteran with this issue.

Supplements; melontonin, magnesium citrate, 5htp, GABA, and for a chaser, I take two 2 mg clonazepam and a big fat doobie with really sticky Hawaiian kind buds full of tiny hairs [trichomes] with a high crystal amount of THC. Only joking.

Yes, I have a confession. I use to train scent detection dogs, so that I could get my weed for free. The dogs would scare the shit out of people as they sniffed them up and down. You should see the videos of these people squirming. I’m sorry, I’m still joking. Only one part is true. I did train the dogs.

The above statements are for entertainment purposes only.

VAISLYING INC
VAISLYING INC

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Crazy elf
Crazy elf

There’s a lot of “Until(s)” being spoken by us!
“Until” the AFGE is broken.
“Until” VA employees are prosecuted. “Until” someone with balls takes control of the VA, it will be business as usual.
My main concern is, Shulkin will do nothing to curb the corruption within VA. I believe he’s just another Washington DC HACK out to get more money in his pocket and receive self importance by lying his way to the top!
Yesterday, someone mentioned about Trump more than likely having a hard time finding a Secretary of VA, because they all know the VA is the most corrupt government agency, except for the DOD, in Washington,(Paraphrasing)!

I think of it like this. What person, who is top in their field, would want to be humiliated beyond reproach, by trying to fix this problem then failing??????
We all know the union and all the corrupt SES’rs and upper management will do their best to continue to screw veterans, and especially the taxpayers, of this country.
Trump has made many statements on this issue. We need to make sure he follows through with it!!!!!

_________________________

There’s a new article out this morning, where Obama has sent troops into Poland. Speculation is he’s trying to start a war with Russia before the inauguration. If true, we might not have an inauguration come 20 Jan. Only seven days left! A lot can happen in seven days!
This would mean, Obama declares “Martial Law” and remains in power.
Looking back in history. This is how Caesar, Hitler, Mussolini and others rose to power and caused world conflicts. It doesn’t look good for any of us.
There’s also reports coming out where Obama is trying to confiscate all weapons, with his “Royal Pen and Phone”, from Americans. If this is factual, we’ve got some serious shit about to happen!!!!!!!!!!

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@ANutterVet,
I was considered ‘Kamaina’ after about two years living in Hawaii. They don’t trust “white men” (or any non Hawaiian persons for that matter). Especially in the ‘Waianai’ and ‘Makaha’ areas of Oahu and in outer islands.
Yet, after partying with many “Sons” and “Allii’s” out there, they took me in as a “brother”! It may have been because of my association with the “MMA”, (Modified Motorcycle Association), out of Southern California back in the early to mid ’60’s’!
The “SBU”, or “Street Bikers United”, was heavily involved in motorcycle safety and other laws not helping us.
After many years of fighting corrupt laws, one gets completely “burned out”! I know I did.
I returned to state side in 1988. Yes. I miss the parties on the beaches. Great times! Great “pokalolo”, big fat ones, lmao.
I forgot to mention yesterday. My very first “Big Bike” was a 1940 WL, (45 ci – 2 wheeler) back in 1963, I was 16 years old! Completely stock and not “chopped” as was the way then.
Of course, if one wants, my first 2 wheeler was a 1953 WHIZZER. Last year made by Sears-Roebuck and Co. with a Schwinn frame, remember those? Long Belt drive to the back wheel. Had a lot of fun with it. Great gas mileage also!
Purchased them with monies I made from a paper route!

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Crazy elf – Yea, I also miss those times on the beach. And, I must say, it was in the Sandwich Islands that I first experienced discrimination because of being white. I didn’t like it at all. Later, I was accepted into a Ohana. Made a big difference in how I was treated. Yes, those Schwinn bikes bring back memories. I too had a paper route, along with cutting grass, and shoveling snow to save up for a Honda Mini Trial, 3 speed automatic, big knobby tires. I was able to put on a ski on the front to use in the snow. As a matter of fact, I found a stray pure bred German Sheppard puppy while out riding. It was during Christmas. I fed him Polish Kielbasa, and he followed me all over. That boy couldn’t keep his eyes off of me. He was a fantastic buddy and protector.

namnibor
namnibor

Can I jump in Trump’s swimming pool At Mar-a-Lago if such a protest took place? I promise it will only be a Baby Ruth candy bar I leave floating in the pool. 🙂 🙂 (Caddyshack was such a great movie)

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

This morning, on “Escape” (a new TV station) is a show on the Mafia in New York City and other areas of the country. It’s called; “Target Mafia”!

In this ‘documentary’ it is explained, in specific dialog, how the Mafia took over places of businesses.
One thing that stood out was “HOW” they did it.
First, they had to “…find individuals, (business owners, union heads, etc., etc.), “…who were corrupt enough to take money…” or “…suffer the consequences…” usually death to union organizers and workers.
(Even the Ford Motor Company, The Garment Industry, Long Shoreman, etc., etc., etc. we’re corrupt…..)

That being said, how many of VA upper management, SES’rs, and union members, (from top to bottom in local areas), would “sell their souls” for money?
It was once said;
“Everyone is for sale, it just depends on how much!”
“How much is the answer”! We see, from IG reporting, GAO reporting, etc., etc., many of the VA upper echelon is being paid very well for their “services” to screw the taxpayers and veterans. Especially in what VA is now calling; “Incentives” instead of “bonuses”.

In my opinion, the only way this will be stopped, is to break the backs of those willing to “sell out” those whom they are hired to serve!
I think the question this raises is “HOW can this be done?”
Right now, nothing is more important than finding those responsible, and putting their feet in the fire!
There needs to be an investigation on who is the “seller” and who is the “buyer”!

This is my opinion, brothers and sisters, HOW can it be done??????

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

The full title to the show is;
“American Justice – Target Mafia”!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Are there any veterans out there who are Private Investigators, who would help Ben, and all other veterans, to put this together? That is; to help put corrupt VA employees, from top to bottom, in prison?

Lem
Lem

Check the internet for body cameras. Get one and use it for all visits. Very useful to have at least a voice recording to correct erroneous histories. Cost under $50

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

To All Veterans – You have to be careful when recording Federal employees on Federal property. I got caught capturing audio and the ER Physician yelled out, “he’s recording.” The on site Police were called. They wanted to confiscate my recorder, but I refused, and left the ER on my own accord.

With that being said, anyone can search for spy recorders, cameras, spy gear, shops, . . . etc. There are plenty different types of gear online, and you’ll be amazed how some items are reasonably priced. Be careful during your missions.

namnibor
namnibor

I prefer the Bluetooth Fisheye Micro Anal Camera so when I go in for an ear, throat, and nose exam and the Dr. inevitably wants to check my prostate, I can keep tabs on what he’s really doing down there. 🙂

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – Especially if you observe the doctor grabbing and holding his instrument like some Rappers do on stage. May be you should ask them their sexual preference before they touch you. After all, its your body. Or, did we lose that right as well? You can’t even hide out in the bathroom anymore. You don’t know who is going to walk in; he, she, shimmy, shimmie, dragster, queenie, the dikester, a girl named Butch, Zeek, . . . etc. Do you think the kids nowadays are totally confused about how anyone can use the same bathroom? No absolutes. Oh well, love is love. Roger that, Pee Wee Hillary and family.

The above comments are for entertainment purposes only.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Nam, does that micro anal camera come in Hi Definition?

I could get a nice shot of Dr. Harry Bigknuckles and hang it on my mantle.

Speaking of hi def, for those interested, a Pen camera on Amazon that records video and audio in high definition is $19.95.

James Gallegos
James Gallegos

Do u have one of those cameras. How do u watch what u record

91Veteran
91Veteran

The pen camera records to an on-board micro USB memory card. You can view the video by downloading it to your computer using a USB cable, which doubles as a power charging cable.
Press the button and it starts recording.
It actually works as a regular pen as well.

namnibor
namnibor

Drooling coffee right now….LMAO!

@James, with such cameras, they usually have a micro usb port or some even have Bluetooth wireless means. Most Smartphones have phenomenal audio as well as video recording modes and pretty high-definition even through obvious clothing. 🙂

If you happen to have an iPhone, even my older iPhone 5s has a free app that came with an update last year called “EXTRAS”, open “Extras” and you will see -6- icons, a Compass, Tips, Contacts, Find Friends, Find Phone, and the one of special interest to topic, VOICE MEMOS….”Voice Memos” allows you to effectively use your phone as a full fledged Field Recorder and that of course, can be backed-up to your computer via iTunes and downloaded in another operating system such as Windows, but they are still .WAV Files, pretty universal audio media.
I can only imagine Android operating systems have similar recorders for audio and video.
Be mindful of whether you reside in a One Party or Two Party State for recording and the Law. The VA only holds to the LAW when it’s convenient for the VA, not because it’s the right thing to do. 🙂 Hope that helped.

Cantigny
Cantigny

@crazy elf:
we could start a gofundme or crowdfund link to pay a PI type like Ron did with the billboard project & pay @Ben.

there is so much analog and digital data available for your PI suggestion to back up most any reporting for a documentary. just the veteran legal firms out there would have a treasure of data. whistle-blower evidence. Congressional evidence not made public. news org who have already shown segments on the VA issues. etc etc. and that is just a short list of supporting evidence of veterans issues with VHA/VBA.

as you mention, maybe get it all edited into a new documentary type episode / film? like Dinesh D’Souza has done with his documentaries?

sean
sean

PLEEEZE Hillary Clinton, lost by the electoral college. SHE is not responsible for any, I say any of trumps appointments. He is the problem NOT Clinton. Why cant you folks who voted for him take responsibility for his and your actions? If you want change than lobby your Reps, call the trump transition team and post your objections…blaming clinton nor obama will NOT help ANY of us.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Sean – You diehard head in the sand liberal. Watch the news. The MSM can’t let go because their Queen got beat. You fake news liberal media owns 90% of the stations. And, there are only 6 corporations that own them [monopoly]. Go find a dam Sanctuary City to live in. I’m concerned for you, you have been dumbed down by their rhetoric. Can’t you live without them? Are you a Veteran, boy?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Tommy Di Stefeno – Jewish people have been accused of many things. Unfounded. You can’t group those who are Zionist and those who own the liberal media. Most Jewish people are not of the Jewish faith [Hebrew]. If that was the case, I would think there would be less Trump bashing in the MSM news. And, all corruption, manipulation, and deceit are NOT led or controlled by Jewish people. That means that everyone is ok, except Jews. Shading analogy at best. Hillary is who you can call deceitful. Your statements are too broad based. Greed is everywhere. And so is distortion, like you! A form of deceitfulness. Can I order more education for Tommy? Do you any school benefits left from the VA? He needs to know the difference between Judaism, Judeo-Christian, and secular Jews. Lets break bread.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Benjamin Krause, JD – Ben I posted a reply to Tommy Di Stefeno’s post [see above], and now his original post has been removed. What is up with this? Someone is censoring Ben’s blog. Strange! Any one have input?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Benjamin Krause, JD – Thanks Ben. As you might have deduced, I was really perturbed with Tommy’s post. I heard that crap since I was a kid. I have many Jewish friends who are far from the mold that Tommy was picturing. Or shall I say dictating. Thanks for responding.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Go melt some were else snowflake.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

My comment is in response to Sean and not the racist Tommy Di Stefeno.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – Heat em up Seymore, heat em up!

Fred Payne
Fred Payne

As a former FAA Facilities and Equipment employee who continually suffered because of the Air Traffic Controllers Union in the Mid 90’S I can tell you it is Bullshit what unions still get away with in todays world. President Reagan did the right thing in the 80’s when he fired all of the striking Air Traffic Controllers and then barred them from coming back. Some Controllers got to come back within a year to five years and some were barred permanently. The Reagan Administration used the anti-federal strike law against the union and brought it to its knee’s, the second evolution of the Union was a whole lot different but still a major pain in the ass for everybody but the controllers. AFGE is only in it for AFGE and until the Secretary or the President attacks the AFGE and resets them the VA will continue to suffer the crap the union forces down the throat of VA Senior Management. The Federal Government should ban all unions from federal service and prohibit union activities on all federal properties. Federal Mediators could, can, and should represent employees in all labor disputes, and not let unions dictate the terms to the very agency that is paying them as employees. The union is getting paid by dues from employees that are not receiving direct compensation from the union in any adverse event. Basically the AFGE is there to protect bad employees and generate cash to pay AFGE Management on top of what they are earning as a federal employee. Totally a big scam all the way around.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Fred Payne – Right on! Many companies don’t have unions, and they much less problems than the VA does.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@Fred Payne,
You are so damn correct.
I worked for a non-union company for a few years. Great working conditions, benefits (with a check come Christmas time), and more.
If the VA were like that, we’d see massive improvement.

@Ben
I have stopped going on Facebook or other sites like that.
I get enough emails, mostly “alt-right”, to look at. Plus, I view many Utube videos each day.

john smith
john smith

I hope he gets it right I wouldn’t want to piss off a country full of veterans.

Ronald Rytter
Ronald Rytter

I don’t know David Shulkin, and the only thing I got from your article is that he is a scum bag. No reasons other than he’s not a veteran, does that make him a scum bag? Yes there are problems at the top and until they are fired there will continue to be problems, unions will be the ruination of our country, they had their day that day is long past. Can we give him a chance, can’t be any worse than it is now.

Stephen LeMaster
Stephen LeMaster

You set the date, and I’ll find a way to be there. I agreed that I would reduce my check by 5% to reform the AFGE, but why should I? I got screwed on my rating for years and can finally get by with my check.

Be that as it may, change requires sacrifice, and this is one I would make.

I do like the idea of waiting until next year, though. As you mentioned, it’s entirely possible that the Trump team knows something we don’t. We’ll wait and see. I’m not at all encouraged by this selection, though.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Out of order, but here goes.

First, I would like to change my #3 answer to your survey to a RESOUNDING HELL NO!
I see no reason why any veteran should opt for any reduction in benefits to reform a completely corrupt organization and their union when we have a boatload of politicians in DC at massive expense that SHOULD BE DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB!

Why should I pay the hangman to make sure he uses new rope?

Now, to your post Ben. Very good as usual and brings up some things I had forgotten.

Someone commented here about some congressman on a VA committee saying he was pleased with Trump selecting Shulkin.

That should have been my red flag.

I had forgotten about that worthless POS Isakson.

If he is pleased, then special interests, the worthless VSOs, corrupt bureaucrats and many thieves got exactly what they wanted with Shulkin.

His selection is turning out like the guy going to the dating site and contacting some gorgeous woman based on her picture and description, only to find out in person she weighs 350 pounds and is chewing on a burrito.

What douche lied to Trump to ease Shulkins selection?

Two words, Reince Priebus. This has high level insider hack written all over it…and it is going to blow up right in Trumps face, and when it does, these sneaky bastards will be nowhere to be found.

I would like to protest in FL, but I doubt I could afford to get there.

That does not mean I give up.

This selection pisses me off the more I think of it because Shulkin has to be around and knowledgeable during many of these scandals the past 2 years. If not, it means he is worthless.

How does Trump salvage this disaster?

I don’t care. I don’t plan on waiting a year to see just another year wasted and the suicide rate going up.

I voted for Trump specifically because of his position on veterans. Selfish? I don’t give a shit if someone thinks it was selfish. For years I have voted for what I thought was best for the country, only to see veterans treated like dogshit, while many thousands of illegal aliens are brought into this country, and given shelter, food, housing, education, medical care, welfare and anything else they ask for. I pay thousands in taxes for that shit, while paying thousands in out of state tuition for my son while illegal aliens are given in-state tuition if they have to pay anything.

I think you are right Ben. Trump got hustled on this. The only way I can see him fixing this is being hands-on in making sure the VA is reformed.

That starts with Shulkin immediately releasing a reform plan once he is confirmed. A plan with teeth and substance, and not some bullshit that takes years for vets to see changes.

I give it until the first scandal after Shulkin is confirmed. Then the media savages Trump.

And I will join them.

Sandy Demoruelle
Sandy Demoruelle

Dr. Shulkin has left the Honolulu Med. Center (VAPIHCS) without appointment of a full-time Director for a year – since Wayne Pfeffer just quit one day(2/12/2016). Evidence of Shulkin’s signatory approval of rotating “Acting Directors ” of under 29 days has been sent to Congressional reps and local press.

If VA Health Care Systems don’t need the high price leadership of SES for a year, then why are taxpayers wasting money on them elsewhere?

Hawaii Veterans and their families have faced problems that would have been avoided if Dr. Shulkin had taken the trouble to ensure that VAPIHCS had leadership that would MAKE them just follow the rules!!

Ben is right – we all need to work to hold the politicians feet to the fire to be taken as seriously as NRA or AARP, for example.

Lem
Lem

I would like to give an “acting director” a little more than 29 days to prove his mettle. But then maybe that has been all that has been needed to show that the “acting director” was doing just that–“acting” not directing. Some facilities need the Nixon treatment. If you can’t fire them move them out to a place they can cause less harm.

If an acting director can’t find some necessary corrective personnel action to take in 29 days at a failing facility then he is just being friendly and not directing.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I believe the director at my VA has been acting much longer than 29 days.

I believe she has been in the position since the previous director went to Hines last year.

james gallegos
james gallegos

That’s what they are doing now, conveyer belt. Work one year and move, that way the dirt don’t stick. Do the Damage and move on. That’s the way they got around the question of how many employees have been fired or how many were held responsible.

I don’t know I was not in charge at the time.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Putting someone in an acting position allows management above them to take that acting director for a spin, and see if they toe the line.

It also saves the VA a huge amount of money in additional salary and moving expenses the longer they hold a job open.

Perhaps because they spent so much money on moving hacks around here on the mainland, or moving Rima Whatsherface to PI for awhile before moving her to Phoenix.

I agree with you. If the position is needed, fill it. If not, eliminate it.

Angela
Angela

Yep, see your point. It would save the VA money if they would save it and not squander it. Trial spin.

Sandy
Sandy

In the case of VAPIHCS, after Wayne Pfeffer left in a huff (my opinion), probably w/the bundle of relocation benefits he got as SES that Ben talked about (OIG Report 1/5/2017), “we” (the Pacific Islands Vets and their families) got the second in line Tonia Bagby, PsyD, as Acting Director (w/Shulkin’s signatory approval) for 120 days (until July 12, 2016). I am waiting FOIA requests for info about what happened when Bagby’s 120 day detail ended on July 12 and September 26, 2016 when they (VISN 21 Director Sheila Cullen Memo Sept 23, 2016 FOIA 17-03063-F) started the 29-day “visiting” acting directorships.

Starting September 26 to October 14, Lisa Howard was missing as Director VA Sierra NV HCS; Stephen Bauman (Dir VA Cnt. CaHCS) Oct 17 – Nov 5; David Stockwell (Dir VA No. CaHCS) Nov 7 to 29; Peggy Kerns (Dir VA So NVHCS) Nov 29 – Dec 16, 2016; Lisa Howard was back Dec 19 to Jan 10, 2017; finally, the last on the list is Bonnie Graham (Dir San Francisco VAMC) Jan 11 – Feb 4, 2017.

Bet CA/NV folks didn’t miss your Director while they spent a few weeks in Honolulu?

No news from FOIA request as to who is up next. As I say, if VAPIHCS doesn’t need high paid SES leadership, why waste money elsewhere?

This explains differing acting director time frames (29 vs. 120 days).

If you want to know why your acting director is there so long, ask for the records via written FOIA request and state it is to inform the rest of us (public purpose w/broad dissemination).

Just ask for VA FOIA RECORDS and claim public purpose for full fee waiver. VA resists, but we need to fight for the right to obtain VA info!!

Ben, correct me if I am misleading folks! Thanks!

Jo3n
Jo3n

Strange turn of events. In Trumps defense, he’s a liar, I don’t believe he cares for anyone, I cannot keep covering up all the wrong things he’s getting away with. I believe the VA has outlasted any purpose they originally had. It’s a Republican choice also. I don’t know who to be against anymore. @Ben, I believe you said it all. Now, I am stuck with my anger, and I must deal with that. What a letdown.

james
james

Trumps pick also took the wind out of my sail. Anyone can tweet him. One or two liners.

Dan Martinez
Dan Martinez

Let the Lawsuit begin. I do protest, I sue.
Trump’s newest appointment; VA Undersecretary/Chief Executive of Veterans Health Administration Dr. David J. Shulkin for Secretary of Veterans Affairs is a Slap in the face to Veterans. Unless the VA Hospitals become dismantled, the unions will fight Dr. David J. Shulkin, restricting his ability to restructure VA Hospital’s corruption. Hell, he may exacerbate corruption. It is apparent Trump was unable to deliver his promise to Veterans by appointing another VA employee in the epicenter of the corruption scandal to be, Secretary of Veterans Affairs. Dr. Shulkin appointment is a sad moment for our Veterans to included doctors/surgeon’s integrity in private practice. The United Federal Workers of America ( UFWA) Broke Trump – Veteran will continue to die. This promotes a lawsuit.
Dan Martinez ICEO @ ICC Underwriters
Dan Martinez For Secretary of Veterans Affairs

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Dan Martinez – Are you going to publish an official website that describes your background and how you plan to change the VA. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I think at this point if you’re valid, Veterans would give you a look over. What do you say?

Dan Martinez
Dan Martinez

ANutterVet
I do not care about you Guys. I am like Trump. I am for myself. That is why I will follow through on my promise to sue. As a Vietnam Veterans, we lost the war because of Politics. Our fellow soldiers died for nothing. I will never- ever give into corruption in the VA and its corrupt politics. Trump is going to have a hard time building his Military because Americans are not going to fight. Trump will have to fight the battles on his own and take David Shulkin with him.
Dan Martinez For Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly , @Namnibor , @Crazy elf , @91Veteran , @Disgruntled Veteran – What do you smell pertaining to Dan Martinez’s post above. His lead off sentence is contradictive.

namnibor
namnibor

Self-Absorbed Hemorrhoid is what I smell.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – That sounds anally stanky. Lets lance that thing right now. We’ll let Dan squeeze the oozing, bloody mucus.

namnibor
namnibor

@ANutterVet — No, that’s why I was specific in recognizing the “self-absorbed hemorrhoid” type with “Dan”, as his type do not think their own shit stinks. Had he showed more rancid qualities, he surely would then be a “self-absorbed prolapse hemorrhoid”, just to be clear… 🙂

91Veteran
91Veteran

Shit Dan, given your response to ANutterVet below that you don’t care about veterans, only about yourself, you would fit right in at the VA.

Get your resume to Little Cox immediately!

namnibor
namnibor

I almost have a strong sense that he very well could already be AT the VA. The swamp stench became rancid once he announced his ‘manifesto’ of “I don’t care about you guys…I am for myself…”!!

Old and perhaps cliché saying, but still holds true, “There’s no “I” in TEAM. That held true for your military Flights/Squadrons/whatever, and as Veterans, a collective.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@91Veteran – Agree. Its good to have other Veteran over seers for clarification. They want resumes on hard copy. @Dan Martinez, need paper? See the stalls. Roll out as much as you want.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey Elf,

Did you happen to see that Obama is planning a party of his own in Washington D.C. on inauguration day.

“Head of D.C. National Guard to be removed from post in middle of inauguration”, By Peter Hermann and Aaron C. Davis, The Washington Post, January 13, 2017

“https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/commanding-general-of-dc-national-guard-to-be-removed-from-post/2017/01/13/725a0438-d99e-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html?utm_term=.5713a5cb597a”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Also I am certainly glad I don’t live in Chiraq. You know they will be partying there Obama Style, just like the parties he threw in Syria an Libya.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Seymore,
I read an article from, I believe NewsMax today, where Chicago’s “… BEGGING for Trump’s Help…”
Seems some female, associated with the police, is outgunned when it comes to cracking down on all the criminal activities and elements in her city.
If I find the article, I’ll put it on here.

cj
cj

I am with namnibor, why Florida? For the exactly the same reasons as namnibor, I cannot take the heat, the medications simply will not allow my body to work properly. Why not DC? The press will pick up on our cause if we gather in DC. I doubt half as much in Florida. How about making a coordinated effort between common interests? Get the word out. There are more veterans than any other entity in this entire country. I am 100% disabled and receive 0% so giving up 5% means nothing to me, but I do wonder why that question was even asked. Veterans receive far to little now, why ask them to give anything to fight those with millions in surplus? It is time for good old fashioned street justice, a march on Washington, and not a little march……..the biggest damn march this country has ever seen. At least 22 veterans a day, need us to do this. I don’t know how much longer I have to live, so let’s get this ball rolling, I am all in, let those who are the most educated among us, coordinate this effort asap. I am withering away. I have nothing left to live for…………………….GIVE ME A REASON TO SEE ANOTHER DAY!!!!! Stop the talk, time to hoist the black flag, and start pounding the chests, let’s do this right, and bring them a fight. Will they not listen? We make them listen. Do they want our votes? Our votes come with a cost. If they betray us? They will regret the day. I for one am sick of the double talk, and all the other B.S. coming out of SWAMP No.1,2,3, and [email protected] Whitehouse, House, Senate, and the V.A. If I have any of those wrong, it is because I attended public school, until I was rudely interrupted by military service. Normally I am a nice guy, but if you make the mistake of making me more angry at you, then I am at myself? Son……..you now have a problem I guarantee you can’t solve. Like a warning on a bottle of pills: I am starting to get angry!!!!!!!!

namnibor
namnibor

@cj-
Like you, I am starting to get very angry in a ‘Marvin The Martian’ kind of way…”You wouldn’t like me angry, not at all”, esp. a ‘Marvin The Martian’ that ignored the pill bottle warnings.. 🙂

James Gallegos
James Gallegos

Sounds like you have had enough and I agree Washington in the spring or late spring.

We have to start soon. To get the word out and the time line would give many veterans time to save a few bucks to go.

Many veterans can use a low fair airline. But that requires to schedule like 2 week’s ahead of time.

I know some veteran’s here. That would love to go as a large group.

You folks are speaking my language and I’m willing to do anything I can. What ever. Phone calls. Anything.

Before I die. I want to do something to try and help you and those becoming veterans.

They are going to need it. The u.s. is preparing for war in Europe. Let’s not let those poor guy’s go to war, only to return home to be scorned by the VA or anyone else.

We owe it to our kids and they are us !

namnibor
namnibor

Right-on, James! Things are getting ever-more dicey over in Europe and Middle East, and seems Obama wants to play agitator/aggravator in the region…7 more days…tick, tick, tick…yes we can….yes we can….God, I hate that statement!! Not the change I could believe in, at all~!

cj
cj

@namnibor: You got me on ‘Marvin The Martian’. When I left that post I was so angry I was shaking, now reading your reply? It has definitely made my day…………..Thank you.

GH
GH

…and veterans have helped dismantle the only other way around VA healthcare which was Obamacare.

namnibor
namnibor

@GH- Not Quite. The entire Medicare Template or even the CHAMPVA Template would be much better than VA Deathcare. Snowflake Syndrome hopefully has a cure, or excuse me, chronic cases of Trumphobia…yeah, that’s it!

~~gurgle~~

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I’d like it if veterans could use “ChampVA” instead of the VA!

Lem
Lem

Good idea. I wonder why it wasn’t used instead of the two Choice contracts with companies that were formerly non profit and top 5 executive salaries total under 1.5 million which became for profit companies with top 5 executive salaries total over 25 million. Could this possibly be corruption on McDonald’s watch spearheaded by our potentially new VA Sec?

91Veteran
91Veteran

I believe McCain is the one to blame for Choice rather than CHAMPVA.

HealthNet is a big player in Arizona, and McCain pushed Choice hard.

I think it was also pushed by those looking to provide a cushion to companies like HealthNet after losing so much on Obama care.

We see how much rates have risen in Arizona, so it didn’t help much.

HealthNet having George Miller retire from Congress and join their board just around the time Choice was passed also helped.

As did George Miller being a friend of Pelosi for 30 years.

Lem
Lem

Could be but they moved their headquarters to Arizona after changing from an NPO to a for profit from CA. Also note the connection to the Phoenix VA Crisis and the lobbyist handouts. So there is more than one finger in the pie when it comes to congressional and senate fingers. Plus the crisis occurred before Shulkin’s time so he may have innocently played along with the set up not knowing what was going on with the transfer of wealth into the pockets of 5 executives at Health Net.

Need to look up the East Coast Choice game. It may have been all orchestrated through Goldman Sachs or one of the other “temple money changers” (investment banks).

namnibor
namnibor

I have a downstairs neighbor whom is a Surviving Wife of a Vietnam Veteran and she has ChampVA and she has even better benefits than both my VA or Medicare benefits…and when I have casually expressed some of the scandalous VA crap to her, she has this bubble existence that the world is okay as long as SHE is okay and that we Vets must not clearly understand our benefits. Now mind you, she has been a Republican all her life and every family member going back so, and she is one of the “snowflakes” that went polar opposite and voted for Hillary as a vote against Trump, and she could not understand how I as a Veteran could vote for Trump. I brought-up the lackadaisical sloppy security breaches Hillary and team did…no big deal to here…what HARM could it have in HER world?
I told her that just suppose that from Hillary’s hacked emails there was made a backdoor to hack our Country’s Electrical Grid and you have to go back to stone ages for a bit until we clean-up the mess? She basically is of the ilk, and unfortunately there’s a good number of these snowflakes, that have to be PERSONALLY AFFECTED in order to take notice.
People can suck.
But my neighbor has ChampVA and just LOVES it. McCain has tried chopping at ChampVA several times.
Rant Out.

Angela
Angela

Yep, Namnibor. I agree.

Ex va
Ex va

@Namnibor, that neighbor is not worth talking to. She is too selfish to think of another human being.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

To All – Does anyone have information about CBD isolates, oil, crumble, or wax used in a vaporizer to help with chronic pain? There is no THC in this product. Wondering if anyone can add some input about this. I know that some people use polyethylene glycol [PG] to cut the oil. I not impressed about inhaling this compound.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@ANutterVet,
I’m not sure about that “concoction”.
I don’t think I would want to ‘sniff’ something with those chemicals.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Crazy elf – From my research the CBD component is supposedly good for pain, anxiety, PTSD. If THC shows up on a blood test by the VA, they can cut you off from any Federally Scheduled medication. I hear what you’re saying CE. I’m more concerned about the Polyethylene Glycol [PG] which is also used to cut essential oils for topical applications. The reason I posted the question about CBD, is because my health has dramatically deteriorated to the point where I was doing better before I started going to the VA. These people would rather me to be dependent on highly addictive Schedule II opiates. Failing health is my dilemma, while searching for alternatives is my mission.

CBD is an isolated compound from cannabis. CBD does not get you high like doing dry herbs. Shootz brah, we one do a number wit a crutch. More betta! Tell the name of the beach to meet up. Talk story bout da kine VA li dat.

The last statement above is for entertainment purposes only. No one is admitting to anything, so stop your snooping. Rat bastards.

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