Lawrence Connell MD Washington DC director
Col. Lawrence Connell, Chief of Staff for the Pacific Regional Medical Command (PRMC), presents Beverly Lopes, Joint Commission Readiness Consultant, Quality Services Division, TAMC with her 2013 PRMC Civilian Employee of the Year award in Category II of the recognition program March 5, 2014 at Tripler Army Medical Center. (Photo Credit: Ana Allen (PRMC))

After initially placing the chief of staff in charge of the troubled Washington DC VA Medical Center, the agency changed course and installed a Trump loyalist.

On Wednesday, the former director, Brian Hawkins, was replaced by the facility’s chief of staff, Dr. Charles Faselis. Thursday morning, VA changed course and replaced Faselis with Lawrence Connell, MD.

Connell is a Trump loyalist and retired Army medical officer. He was among a number of Trump loyalists installed at VA in January:

  • Lydia Blaha, Special Assistant/Deputy Press Secretary, GS-12, 1/23/17.
  • Lawrence Connell, Senior Advisor, GS-15, 1/20/17.
  • Lynda Davis, Senior Advisor/ Veteran Experience, SES, 1/20/17.
  • Jacquelyn Hayes-Byrd, Senior Advisor, No grade level, 2/6/17.
  • Thomas (Jake) Leinenkugel, Senior White House Advisor, SES, 1/20/17.
  • Michael Lukach, Special Assistant/White House Liaison, GS-15, 1/20/17.
  • Matthew Miller, Senior White House Advisor, SES, 1/23/17.
  • Bert Mizusawa, Senior Advisor, SES, 1/30/17.
  • Peter O’Rourke, Senior Advisor Appeal Mod, GS-15, 1/20/17.
  • Darin Selnick, Senior Advisor VHA Policy & Planning, SES, 1/23/17.
  • Brooks Tucker, Senior Advisor, GS-15, 1/30/17.

At least two from this list have now been installed into positions within the agency. Lynda Davis, PhD, was just selected to head the Chief Veterans Experience Officer.

[Thanks to commenter NiteWish for posting this in the comment section last month.]

RELATED: IG Review Of VA Medical Center May Shock You

VA Statements On Selecting Location Outside, Trump Loyalist

In a statement, VA said:

“After further consideration, it was determined that naming an acting director from outside the facility would allow leadership to concentrate on addressing the many challenges identified in the OIG report without compromising the ongoing internal review.”

In a later press conference, Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin, MD, promised accountability and fairness for those involved in the management of Washington DC VA that put veterans lives at risk.

The VA Maryland Health Care System is handling the center’s human resources responsibilities because the D.C. facility has “been unable to sustain and maintain a sufficient HR program.” The IG said this has led to the center not having “direct authority over its recruitment and hiring functions.”

Brandon Coleman On Washington DC VA Shakeup

These swift moves led to even Brandon Coleman, a whistleblower, and fierce VA critic, to finally say positive things about a VA secretary for the first time in years.

About putting Connells to head the DC facility, “Colonels are great choices to run VA facilities.” But, “there is so much more that can be done.”

Regarding Hawkins being placed on leave, “He collected $17,000 in bonuses while running a VA facility that put veterans lives at risk.” Coleman saw this as a major failure in holding employees accountable and cited new legislation on accountability as a potential fix.

Coleman also commented on the new wait list website, “I’ve got to give credit where credit is due,” Secretary Shulkin, “is actually pushing for some transparency” by “putting the numbers out there for veterans to see.”

“That is a huge step forward compared to what we had during the last Administration.”

What do you think about these steps? Are these moves in line with Trump’s promise to reform the agency? Do you see the news this week as a positive sign?

Source: http://www.govexec.com/management/2017/04/trump-administration-installs-loyalist-repair-deficient-va-facility/137012/?oref=govexec_today_nl

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First, I would just like to say, fuck the VA
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harder than the VA fucks us.

Hondo

It amazes me this happened in the town that the “Big 6” veterans organizations have their National Headquarters and not one had any idea this was happening????????? They all have VSO offices in the hospital representing patients, but not one everheard a complaint from staff or patients about these issues???????? Personally, it happened because the VSO’s are a collection of butt wipe spineless give a shit give me more money morons, and that’s the end of the story…………..

91Veteran

Hondo, it shows the VSOs only visited the VACO to kiss ass and see what bones would be thrown their way, and never visited the hospital.

For any reason. Including health care.

JOHN COKOS

Remains to be seen just how all of this will play out. When Trump has all his people in place, and they are in position to make changes, the the clock starts. It’s a “Arms Length” transaction….

Dennis
I really want to say something positive here, but it would be so out of character so as to call my integrity into question. I choose to hold onto my hate in the belief that if I drink poison it will hurt my enemy horribly and I will be redeemed. Now, in honor of some VA ass getting kicked a little bit, I am going to place a substance into my vaporizor. The substance to best of my knowledge is… Read more »
LittleSandyRiver
@ Dennis, I find it so funny, odd, strange– that DC has medicinal mj along with recreational mj. Those with chronic pain and other illness could benefit greatly (and less overdosing on opiates) if mj were available to those who needed relief; and someone with seizure disorder could be helped. But the story is: “There has not been enough research done to warrant cannabis for medical purposes”. Oh, I reckon until all those who make the rules are still trying… Read more »
Dennis
It is a proven fact that marijuanna causes paranoia, reduced cognitive potential, and impacts the ability to speak truthfully, but that is only seen in politicians who attempt to legislate it. My God, Eric The Healer of Rome, father of medicine, used extracts of marijuana in over half of his remedies. How many countless billions hace used this drug to good effect? Do you know how many people in the entire history of mankind are known to have died from… Read more »
LittleSandyRiver
@ Dennis, as to first point– yes, some do experience paranoia when using; and a reason for that is because they are scared of being arrested, caught, found out, busted, etc. and that could be their response to it. The moral issue does play a big part: drug use (of any kind) predated the VN war, like you said, but was prevalent during the 60s and 70s, with use by active duty, veterans and students. Shame, like you said, plays… Read more »
91Veteran

Dennis, I wonder what response you would get if you submitted a request to Shulkin to have your DBC flag lifted, along with the background story on how it came to be.

I suggest it, because it seems to me Shulkin is having people watch over his shoulder to make sure he addresses problems quickly.

Imagine the director, Chief of Staff and others being removed pending firing for so badly abusing the DBC process, and you in the process.

James Gallegos
I have collected paperwork since they falsely accused me of disruptive behavior and I was going to send it to the Secretary for action. Then I thought about it and feel it would be wiser to wait to see if they pass the new law where VA employees will have 15 day’s to respond or be fired. Since the old law is still in effect, the employees can still use them to their advantage. By stringing this out some times… Read more »
91Veteran
I should have added, it may be worth trying Dennis, because I get the impression some of these senior advisors are being dispatched to look into problem hospitals in different parts of the country, and doing it somewhat quietly. Ben wrote about some senior people holding a meeting/town hall up in his area, and if I recall correctly, Leinenkugel, one of Trumps senior veterans advisors was there. I mention this because if you look at Leinenkugels Twitter timeline, he has… Read more »
Mk

Wait, don’t drain the Swamp I got an idea let’s just filllllllll it back up with more swampters. Then we can really fall for fix again like a bunch iliterate dummies AGAIN..

Phillip

The only problem with draining the swamp, now one can see all of the alligators and crocodiles that was living in the swamp. They still on land but only in a depression.

Windguy
And a tiny victory for the good guys. From the office of Senator Jeff Merkley Great news for Oregon veterans: the Portland VA has temporarily stopped removing vets from a program supporting spouses who take care of disabled veterans. In many cases, a disabled vet will find no better and more dedicated caregiver than the person he or she is married to. Nevertheless, the Portland VA recently announced that it would stop allowing spouse caregivers to receive payments under a… Read more »
Dennis
OK Merley, now what are you gonna do about the notorious Disruptive Behavior Committees of the VA. You know, the ones who meet in secret, discuss charges broguht against vets, vote on the validity of the charges and determine punishment and THEN notify the veteran that they have been charged, tried, and convicted of actions that merit the loss of property and freedom that others posess without due process? Where are you at Jeff with Kangaroo courts being held weekly… Read more »
Windguy

Oops – forgot about that tender spot. Didn’t mean to poke it.

namnibor
“[What do you think about these steps? Are these moves in line with Trump’s promise to reform the agency? Do you see the news this week as a positive sign?]” Yes, this is movement in a positive direction. However, the entire VA is impacted with shitheads, which means like all positive directions, may need some grunting and pushing to make movement of the VA bowel movements. “[“After further consideration, it was determined that naming an acting director from outside the… Read more »
cj
@namnibor: Exactly, big deal he was removed, he was also given a desk job too. Ya think it might be time to send one of these dirt bags to prison? Just think of the impact of this story at it’s core. This was the damn DC VA. Same town all the elected ostrich’s reside. Same town the VA headquarters is located. The same damn town that all the VSO’s have their respective headquarters at as well. I am supose to… Read more »
namnibor
@cj- As long as there’s an active link of the Oregonian Poop Canons and the Veteran Drone Program. Shitheads need to have new shithead hats…esp. the VSO Piggies, whom have done absolutely nothing to help make the VA safer for Veterans. Duly note that the VA Crows may be an issue with the Drone Program. Then there’s the steady circle of buzzards and vultures over each VAMC that must be neutralized before the poop canons have any effect. Tons of… Read more »
cj

@namnibor: Sadly, I don’t think it will last at all. The only reason we are even hearing about this is because of it’s location. Kind of like Waler Reed, like that just all happened as soon as GW took office. My ass, how many “officials” visited Walter Reed, and did swat? Yet there it was for all to see. Again……..not impressed.

cj

Dammit……………..squat no ‘swat’

cj

FUCK…………Walter………..not Waler

cj

I am really tired folks. Sorry for all the typos’s

cj

cj April 14, 2017 at 3:43 pm

Dammit……………..squat no ‘swat’
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Typo’s on typo’s……………….I give up. Going back to sleep.
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cj

Correction: “once that director” and “V.D.P”

Seymore Klearly

Namnibor,

It will be interesting to see how Hawkins is handled. Pretty sure we will just see history repeat itself. My educated guess is that Hawkins will be nothing more than a VA shithead that is prairie-dogging out the backside of the VA that never makes it all of the way out the exit.

91Veteran

Prairie dogging. Good one Seymore.

Time will tell if that turd turns into a mole and is shipped off elsewhere.

To become part of the VA whack-a-mole game.

91Veteran
I agree Nam. I still think putting Connells in as director just after putting out a Press Release naming the Chief of Staff as Acting shows things have changed. Naming the Chief of Staff was the VAs good ol boy way of thinking. Given the problems uncovered here, why would they promote someone (the COS) that was just as incompetent at doing their job as the director? It tells me someone recognized that, and recognized the fact that a House… Read more »
namnibor

Perhaps Colonel Connell should have been the pick all along for VA Secretary? Maybe if Shulkin screws this up, the Colonel may be next-in-line.

I really hate to get my hopes up again but just knowing something is starting to be done makes me think at this point, any movement in a positive direction is better than where we have been headed.

Disgruntled Veteran
@Nam – – – Colonel Connell did a very good job at cleaning up Tripler Army Medical Center here in Hawaii during his tenure. Do not know how he will do with the Bullshit Politico’s in DC. Remains to be seen. I cannot get my hopes up just yet, because not near enough has been done with regards to draining the toxic swamp creatures at the VA. An onerous task at best. The DC VA director should have been fired.… Read more »
91Veteran
I agree DisgruntledVet. I too hope Connells cleans up that hospital, and others are cleaned up as well. Its interesting to see the grade levels and how many of these are “senior advisors”. I would rather it be named the Task Force of Stomping Ass, but is it a task force to reform VA? Perhaps. As for Hawkins doing admin duty, I look on that as a first step of him being reassigned to a flunky job permanently, or fired.… Read more »
Damian Phillip
I concur with your assessment of Brian Hawkins, who should have been fired long time ago. I say this because when I worked at the Washington DC Medical Center, the service I worked for fired me after being on the job of 11 months, 20 days. When I reached out to the director to intervene, through check-and-balance, he ignored my email request. The same sentiment of lack of leadership found its ugly face all through senior and mid-level management. As… Read more »
James s Gallegos

What reason did they give you for dismissal.?

What did the union do for you if nothing why not.?

Mspb board. Did u try that.

Phillip
Hello James, Thank you for contacting me. I did not expect feedback from you, anyhow, I am glad that you asked to learn more of my situation. The first person I contacted by email into my firing (before the last day), hoping someone with authority (then Director Brian Hawkins) who was the overseer of the overseers. Instead, of insuring that the mid-level managers were doing the “right thing,” he placed his head in the sand and ignored a “high priority”… Read more »
James s Gallegos
I understand what you are saying and I believe you were let go because you were educated. You may have been to smart, some manager’s do not like someone who is smarter than they are. Jelious ! This has been a problem for many veteran’s and I believe that you are a sciatic. VA hires veteran’s to look good, as you said only so they can say they complied with the veterans hiring practice. You are not the only one,… Read more »
Crazy elf
Until I see VA personnel, (employees of all “rank and file”, SES’rs etc., going to prison), I don’t have much faith in VA being turned around anytime soon! Off topic, yet important! From; “The Horn News” Titled: “Liberals have MELTDOWN over Trump’s “sexist” MOAB airstrike!” Dated: 14 April 2017 Associated Press contributed. (There’s a video of “MOAB” hitting its target!) Y’all will laugh when you read some of the crap these snowflakes are saying. Maybe it’s time for the “DRAFT”… Read more »
namnibor
@Crazy elf- I read that and also laughed in disgust. Every *concerned* snowflake should be immediately airdropped for a desert vacation to be one and at home with the cuddly-wuddly ISIS terrorists. 🙂 Too bad our Air Force did not spray paint “GOD IS GOOD” on the sides of the MOAB before being air-dropped…and maybe some sharpie marker comments DID make it onto the outer bomb’s surface while in-flight….am betting they did. 🙂 Now I am hoping they keep-up pounding… Read more »
Bill

A draft with no way out this time….your turn you serve

Disgruntled Veteran
I definitely think it is time for the draft to be reinstated. Far as the Butthurt snowflakes whining about the GBU 43 MOAB strike, I say Beautiful. Right Target. Right Timing. Right Reason. Right Weapon. Beautiful. I am a peace-loving man – – – but our country is engaged in a few simultaneous wars that the previous Administration chose to minimize. Sorry. Cannot be done. War is War. And what is the NUMBER ONE rule in war? Maximum Surprise. Maximum… Read more »
namnibor
Also, it’s not like even a nuke would change the actual landscape or moonscape that is Afghanistan and region. We should also really hit them where one of their major sources of $$$ is…the poppy fields/opium trade. Heroin is hitting the USA really hard and you cannot tell me this ramped-up heroin crisis is not some kind of undermining of USA via vast amounts of imported heroin. Just a few well-targeted above ground MOAB’s would take care of that problem… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
@Nam – – – I agree with you 100%. Particularly with regard to hitting them in their pharma wallet. Time to ramp MOAB production. Going to need more than the remaining 19 in inventory. Read an article in the Guardian this morning where the writer seemed somewhat baffled as to why the usage of THAT particular weapon versus Tomahawks or Daisy Cutters. Only looked at it from financial point of view. I guess to some folks – – – all… Read more »
namnibor

@Disgruntled Veteran- “[I guess to some folks – – – all explosions are alike.]”

🙂 LMAO 🙂 That just struck me as really funny. “Tastes just like chicken!”

Disgruntled Veteran
@Nam – – – Glad you found it humorous. Will spare you the technical science of “Detonation Forensics” for now. Trust me that it makes for a very fascinating read. Used to know a Police Chief up in your neck of the woods. Prior Army Ranger before joining the Police force. Left the Police (retired? Not sure. Memory problems) and was going to do something technical involving Internet. This was back around ’94 to ’96. Always wondered what happened to… Read more »
Seymore Klearly

Elf,

The draft would almost certainly set off a blizzard in Canada with all those snowflakes hitting the ground up there.

James s Gallegos

The draft yup, no excuses if your fit your in.

Maybe them mom’s and dad’s would get involved.

People don’t give a shit until they are affected directly. !

Ex va
Until i see clinic reforms i do not believe this will be much more than a drop in the bucket for cleaning the va corruption swamp. Hiring a Trump loyalist doesn’t solve va leadership problems. Until there is real changes in the operations of how a Veteran is treated in the clinics and throughout the department of Veterans affairs concerning pensions, compensations and other programs they are rightful entitled to receive this is not real changes. Cleaning up one va… Read more »
91Veteran

ExVA, I agree the VA often kills the messenger.

I think of it this way. How Shulkin handles this can be his own MOAB.

Just as dropping a MOAB on caves sent a message to quite a number of people, including that fat little Chia-dictator NorK, so could this be.

Time will tell. If Hawkins is fired, perhaps it will be a MOAB to other directors rather than the pop corn farts we’ve seen McDonald and others dropping.

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@ANutterVet,@Ex va,@lily: You guys around?

Ex va

@cj, how are you tonight?

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@Ex va: Hey Ex, hows you?

Ex va

@cj, doing good. Did you have some good weather up there?

Jo3n
This did capture some attention. Ben and others on this site have reported so many criminal acts, and nothing. I didn’t get who Dr. Shulkin was referring to accountability, the Veteran, the taxpayers, the employees. Who’s he want to be fair with? If it’s the employees, what would happen to them in the private sector should be fair. If it’s a dead Veteran, what’s fair? Sounds like another wait and see, then with new crimes against veterans nearly daily, we… Read more »
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@Jo3n: You can believe they got caught with their pants down, and nothing more.

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@Jo3n: Hows you tonight Jo3n?

Ex va

@cj, you still here?

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@Ex va: I am still here, are you still here?

Ex va

@cj, yes, i am still here. Did you have a productive day? Hope you had some sunshine.

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@Ex va: Was good weather, I didn’t go out today.

Ex va

@cj, feeling bad? My back got me down this evening.

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@Ex va: What did you do? Did you word to hard today in the sun?

Ex va

@cj, no i did get out and did some walking. I don’t work at anything and that is the problem i know. I am thinking about surgery, scared about the back surgery. A lot of people don’t do good tired of being like this.

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@Ex va: Yikes, I just had that talk with a neurosugeon. I said I don’t know a single person who is better off afterwards. She says, that’s because you never hear the good stories.

Ex va

@cj, right on i don’t know of a single person either. They want to give you blocks or steroid shots that last a few months. That can cause you damage as well just getting shots in the back.

cj

@Ex va: Here is the problem I have with letting anyone work on my back. If they fuck up, or it doesn’t work, I am permanently fucked for the rest of my life. It isn’t like if you got shot in the damn knee cap and all they wanna do is take your leg off. You can still function without a dam leg. What do you do without a fucking back?

Ex va

@cj, yes you are right. If they mess it up they told me i could be in a wheelchair permanently. It can happen. I don’t want to be in one permanently. You remind me of what i can’t really handle with this stuff. I have to have some mobility. It has been hard not to have it.

cj
@Ex va: Once I ran into this very young woman, she had on a back brace and a halo screwed into her skull. I asked her what had happened, if she was in an auto accident. She said she was a gymnist, and had broke her back. She said they had performed 4 failed back surgeries, and she was scheduled for a 5th. I said I was sorry she had to go through so much suffering. She said, she didn’t… Read more »
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@cj, i have seen people like that too and i know they are suffering bad. That is what i don’t want. I feel sorry for people in chronic pain. I was down for six months and i don’t want to go thru that again. I have been told that the back can fuse itself with age and if you life long enough you may outlive the pain. The bones calcifies and you don’t have the inflammation as bad so less… Read more »
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@Ex va: They told me, the damage in my upper back is so bad nothing can be done. They also said over time, that yes, it will fuse itself and the pain will start to go away. All true. The body has a way of fixing itself sometimes. By brother inlaw, had a blocked artery, and his body re-routed the artery around the blockage. Crazy shit.

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@cj, good for your brother in law, i heard of stories like that too about arteries re-routing. I think the body try’s to heal itself or God is involved in the miracle. My neighbor has a bad skin disease and he suffers from the pain and inflammation it is bad. He doesn’t have pigments and has to avoid the sun. He is tough in his 80’s.

cj

@Ex va: I knew someone like that a very long time ago, and another guy I met, use to live in the same apt complex, had no hair, very odd seeing a person with no eyebrows.

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@cj, i like your rifle man picture. He looks pissed. Lol!!

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@Ex va:Rewrites, did you “work” to hard today?

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@cj, i don’t notice the typos you don’t have to write them. Lol. I read work when you wrote it. My brain just associates stuff. It is weird.

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@Ex va: If I don’t answer right away it’s because I am restarting the computer. The damn power jack is messed up, so if I move wrong………pooof, out go the lights.

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@cj, that is ok, i understand i haven’t been getting all the messages back or there is a delay of some sort. The power jack on the computer? Maybe that has been causing problems for awhile.

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@Ex va: Yeah the powe jack on the laptop, I got up and tripped over the power cord. That is the only problem with laptops, the damn power jack, the weakest link. I think that is probably the most ingenious thing apple ever came out with was the magnetic power jack. But I hear that they are doing away with it? WTF.

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@cj, apple loves to give you convenience and then takes it away. Lol. How long does your laptop charge last? The ipad is ok but too little and i can’t do a lot of things like my laptop. It is smaller and easier for somethings.

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@Ex va: It is brand new so probably last a long time. I would have to switch over, it is not good to have the power cord in while using the batter, unless your charging it.

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@cj, are we the only ones on here?

cj

@Ex va: I doubt it, I know Jo3n is here, and maybe ANutterVet. Always someone watching.

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@Ex va: Poof it went again, so over to battery power. Says 2 1/2 hours time, on battery.

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@cj, that is good i don’t think my laptop lasts an hour now. Too much stuff on it i guess. Lol!

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@Ex va: You alright?

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@cj, i am ok taking a lot of meds tonight. Pain is acting up.

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I hope the pain goes away for you tonight Ex. I been in a foul mood ever since my appointment. I don’t know why the hell I even went. A complete waste of time.

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@Ex va: I wouldn’t say a complete waste, but close enough. Course that is what the VA is good for, wasting peoples time, and doing jack shit.

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@cj, the va is out of control, if you are not in a foul mood when you get there they make sure you leave with it. I don’t know feel really discouraged with all of it. I try to get some peace with some of the issues with the va i have and it has been a difficult road.

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@Ex va: They put me in a foul mood by their actions. I hate people being inches away from me and lying to my face. I especially despise when they are not interested in a damn thing you have to say, and you can tell by the expression on their face, that they are fucking annoyed you had to audacity to open your mouth in the first place. I should have lobbed a grenade in the room just before closing… Read more »
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@cj, i hate the deception too. They have lost all humanity in them. They could be interactive and be decent to another human being and they choose not to be. I cannot stand it. They are in the healthcare field there is no care involved.

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@Ex va: You know who hasn’t been on in a long time? lawyerlynn, I like reading her posts. I hope she is okay.
Wish the woman on the blog would post more. Always interesting when they do.

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@cj, yes, she is interesting.

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@cj, seems like we have had a lot of different bloggers on lately. That gives me some hope that the truth is getting out.

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@Ex va: Yes a lot more people, I am glad more people are telling their stories. I know damn well Ben’s blog is being monitored be the VA, and the VSO’s, who knows who else is monitoring as well.

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@cj, Veterans are telling the truth about what they are dealing with in the clinics and with vso’s and vba. The va doesn’t like to deal with the truth and if they don’t like i don’t give a shit i am so sick of them and their little bit of authority hurting Veterans with it. I hope i get to see the changes the system cannot be this way forever everything changes.

cj

@Ex va: Sadly, the AFGE/SES, is not going anywhere soon, and they are at the root of the problem. I don’t ever see real change ever happening at the VA. I don’t care how hard everyone jumps up and down screaming enough is enough. It will NEVER change. Only get worse.

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@cj, Ben caught one of them a va employee on the blog during work time. It was hilarious. I think Ben went after them. Hahahahahaha!!! It was great. I should have copied that one. Do you remember that?

cj

@Ex va: Yes I remember, shut him up real quick too.

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@cj, you think it will get even worse than this? To me it is rock bottom now. Shit i can’t even comprehend it getting worse. I don’t doubt it. Everything has to change.

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@Ex va: Sure, they have had it their way for far too long, and now that light is being shed on them, they don’t like it. They will now start to take it out on veterans. So yes it will get worse, and there will still be no accountablility, unless they get caught and it makes the news. Even then they will just shuffle these assholes around and keep paying out bonus’s and keep on denying claims so they get… Read more »
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@cj, you are right if Veterans had that much air time on news it would have to change. I agree that the airline did nothing wrong with his self entitled behavior of refusing to exit the plane, they responded correctly. It is ridiculous the attention he has received with this behavior. He should have been arrested.

cj

@Ex va: Agreed, he should be sitting in jail trying to post bond, not be the liberals hero of the day.

cj

Remember, any time a Union is involved, the employees work for themselves, (meaning their pocket books) and the union, they are not working for us. That is the entire problem, and it is NOT going to change.

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@cj, the majority of the va employees will not rock the gravy train they are on. They will not tell the truth and so i guess this shit could go on forever and get worse.

cj
@Ex va: exactly, and they have the balls to try to tell us how much they care? and to call themselves our brothers and sisters? They don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves.numero uno, and they sure the fuck are no brother or sister of mine. They are traitors in my eyes. I have seen many of their kind on active duty. usless pieces of shit every single one of them. No balls, and will stab you in the… Read more »
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@cj, yes they are the worst of being a traitor. No if they are part of the corruption and a Veteran i have no loyalty to anyone of them. To me they are worse than the average civilian because they have no code or honor. I worked with a few of those types they were so fucked up anyway in the head they were like robots of people. They were empty soulless shells of people, complete burnouts, no decency left.… Read more »
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@Ex va: I agree. No honor. And to say nothing while a veterans is beeing kowingly screwed over, does make you a traitor. Those kind of veterans are dead to me.

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@cj, they are dead and i know they will answer in this life or the next. I believe that.

cj

@Ex va: We can only hope. Another thing I hate about the VA is how it feels when you walk in the place. I feels like the kind of place where illegal experiments are taking place on unsuspecting people, like a horror flick. It isn’t normal, and you can feel it in your gut.

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@cj, i am so angry about this they have no right to destroy someone’s life of take it.

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@Ex va: Completely understandable.

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@cj, that is the majority of my problem with the va and their employees i saw the worst in them and i did the right things, followed their processes and it did get some in trouble but overall operations remained the same.

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@cj, yes i know that feeling. I would get physically sick when i entered the main building and some of the clinics. Could not ignore the corruption it was everywhere.

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@Ex va: I hear you Ex. Hey I better get going, I have to get up early tomorrow. Hope you sleep well and God Bless you and your family Ex.

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@Ex va: I believe you. And that is why I say nothing will ever really change. If they are not willing to boot the unions out then they are not willing to really change at all. I have a feeling all they are going to do is get more sneaky, and slithery.

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@cj, thank you for listening to me. That is what i am afraid that they will just hide their corruption more or make it more difficult to track. The vaoig doesn’t want to enforce the laws that are on the books.

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Goodnight Jo3n, sleep well.

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