VA Accountability Executive Order

President Donald Trump has announced he will sign an Executive Order this Thursday to create the Office of Accountability and Whistleblower Protection.

The Executive Order is written for the purpose of helping “the Secretary of Veterans Affairs to discipline or terminate VA managers or employees who fail to carry out their duties in helping our veterans. The Office will also identify barriers to the Secretary’s authority to put the well-being of our veterans first.” It will also help protect whistleblowers.

New accountability legislation is moving through Congress but is noted by The Daily Caller News Foundation (TheDCNF) to presently be facing an uphill battle.

That uphill battle is the result of crafty lawmakers colluding with VA officials in a move to marry veterans appeals reform with the accountability act.

Outcry within the veteran community has resulted in a groundswell against appeals reforms because the reforms will limit veterans rights and the duties VA is required to adhere to when assisting a veteran’s claim on appeal.

If the reforms become law, they will restrict a veteran’s ability to develop evidence for a claim on appeal and will significantly limit the agency’s duty to assist the veteran in developing evidence on appeal in the manner presently required.

Shadow Meeting

In a shadow meeting with The Big Six, the Department of Veterans Affairs negotiated an agreement with leadership of at least a few of the organizations to take the heat for the regulatory reforms coming should the present accountability and appeals reforms be voted into law.

With this Executive Order, President Trump is effectively shunting the “accountability” portion of the legislation, which will force the appeals reforms to stand on their own.

Without the public leverage for VA accountability to lean on, the reforms package as they stand will likely not be successful.

New VA Office

So, in theory, the new office will be created to help VA leadership terminate the employment of bad VA managers and those same managers who retaliate against whistleblowers. However, some are concerned the joint mission of the office will result in good employees being terminated for whistleblowing, depending on who staffs the office.

Now, isn’t there already an office for this called the Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Inspector General? Both of these offices, one outside the VA and the other is the supposed designated VA watchdog, supposed to make recommendations the administration should follow?

Brandon Coleman, an infamous VA whistleblower and activist who was retaliated against, thinks the move might be positive.

“I smiled when I heard this was happening Thursday,” Brandon Coleman, a noted Phoenix VA whistleblower, told TheDCNF. “I applaud President Trump for not waiting to take action but instead continuing his push for accountability at the VA with this executive order.”

“I think we have a VA Secretary in Dr. David Shulkin that wants to bring transparency to the Department of Veterans Affairs and setting up a whistleblower division is a great way to bring whistleblowers to the table instead of trying to destroy our careers, as the VA has done time and time again over the past 3 years,” Coleman added. “Whistleblowers are the only ones who have continued to tell the truth at great risk to our professional careers within VA.”

As stated earlier, this Executive Order divorces appeals reform from accountability.

While the creation of yet another office may not be a perfect solution, veterans may experience some benefits by not losing appeals rights in order to hold rogue agency employees accountable.

Source: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/24/trump-will-sign-an-executive-order-creating-an-office-to-get-rid-of-bad-veterans-affairs-employees/

Gretchen Reinhardt
Gretchen Reinhardt
“Now, isn’t there already an office for this called the Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Inspector General?” Office of Inspector General is worthless against abuse (retaliation) by the VA Disruptive Behavior Committee (DBC). I’m secretly flagged for unknown offenses. I’m not allowed to know. I’m basically told to “just behave” and don’t send any e-mails to the VA top brass in Washington DC to complain against the DBC. I complained to my PCP several years ago about… Read more »
LP
LP

They are just adding another cog in the money machine. Another way to extract cash for us and put it in their pockets.

Jackie Cox
That’s exactly what some of these bad characters, Door stop to healthcare for veterans WHOM they pick out to use as an example of what they can do to people who expose their ongoing wrongdoing The never fire V A POLICY allows these pathological psychotics to continue to mess up real veterans lives. I have investigated near 2 dozen VA’ s across the USA over the last 22 years and it just gets worse. Information technology with multivariable calculus-algebraic math… Read more »
Nick Nardo
Nick Nardo

What? Geesh . . .

Floraminica Roberts
Floraminica Roberts

Simply put, IBM Watson in artificial intelligence mode will diagnose and suggest best treatment of disease/conditions based on tapping world-wide medical databases. Need simpler terms? Your robot or AI doctor will see you now…and don’t complain about how human the experience is. Vertical Experience? I don’t know. Maybe, it’s a new religion.

james gallegos
The VA does this to many veterans, as ben has written about. I am in the same boat. Falsely accused and the VA employee did not have to furnish any proof and I was to have come into the clinic at least twice a month and become disruptive. How many months I do not know. Every inquiry sent to the Denver VA from senators and the DAV were sent right back to the employee making the false allegation’s to answer… Read more »
figure8fan
figure8fan
James, I had a so called pain pharmacist put in my notes after our appointment that I became verbally abusive toward her and this continued for 90 minutes. What person in any position in any office would allow someone to be verbally abusive to them for 90 minutes without terminating the appointment? No one would do it. This did not happen but she was on a mission to make me out to be a drug addict. This caused the Roudebush… Read more »
James Gallegos
I think if any veterans that were reported to the disruptive committee, should write down exactly what happened who was involved and sent to the Secretary of veterans affairs. If enough veterans tell their horror story, may be something can be done. Other that Ben writing about it, I have seen nothing in the news. If they insist on using the disruptive committee for veterans. Then the veterans should be able to have a disruptive committee to deal with disruptive… Read more »
Mike Moore
Mike Moore

I was in the Air Force. Today I have to ask at least 3 times what a person said. I’m enrolled in VA Healthcare and can’t even get them to give me a hearing test. I put in for disability compensation so that I could go buy my own hearing aids and the VA gives me 10% disability for Tinnitus.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

welcome to the club MIKE

figure8fan
figure8fan
Gretchen, I know what you are talking about. I started to send proof of what I had been telling the Roudebush VAMC to the Roudebush VAMC and I am now flagged as a disruptive Patient. I have not been disruptive, I have advocated for myself as no one at the Roudebush VAMC will do that for me. I am now under this flag for two years. If I do anything that they consider to be disruptive, I will be removed… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

So they can’t tell you the status of any claim for benefits with any accuracy, but they have a national reporting system (DBRS) to make sure all the little snowflakes are aware of pissed off veterans.

You might want to send them a FOIA/Privacy Act request for any records they have in that system with your name on them. It would be interesting to see if that system is any more accurate than any other VA record.

figure8fan
figure8fan
91Veteran, I will do that. I am sure I will not receive anything or it will be not much. I am also wondering if I go to see my psychiatrist and make ANY comments to him and he puts it into my records if that could be considered a violation of the flag. This would indicate that I cannot tell my shrink the actual truth for fear of more retaliation. If I do tell him and he does not put… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
F8f, you may want to think of something you can tell your shrink that isn’t too bad and get you in serious trouble, and see if it comes out the other end before the DBC. I don’t recall the details, but I thought mental health records were treated more securely than regular VA medical records. I seem to recall having to jump through additional hoops to get my records, or have them released to others. The DBC might be able… Read more »
figure8fan
figure8fan
91Veteran, My shrink notes are in with my normal notes from anyone else. They are there for anyone to read if they choose. Maybe they are supposed to be more restricted but we are talking about the VA and the Roudebush VAMC. I am sure the committee is looking for anything they can to boot me out of that place. They know i have been a pain in the ass and now they know i have private insurance so I… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
F8f, I have run in to similar problems with Choice. Have you talked with a Choice Champion at your VA? If not, I suggest you call them and tell them they need to sort this mess out. Explain what you have gone through, and that you want that Champion to get the right consult to your Choice provider, and do it by the end of the week. They can handle all of that electronically, through email, fax or other means.… Read more »
figure8fan
figure8fan
91Veteran, For once i really do not blame the Choice Program. This is directly due to the Roudebush VAMC wanting to remove me from the Roudebush VAMC. They are the ones, especially my former PCP, who have made this so difficult. My former PCP told me what the consult would be for and then sent the consult with a vague reference of what was to be done. The consult was to be for both my knees, she sent it for… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
F8f, VA administration of Choice changed somewhat before Trump signed the extension of it. It appears that VA discovered the program was run so bad that they had over a billion dollars to spend on it, and all that would be lost unless the program was extended. Since the VA was suddenly trying to not look stupid by having so much money lost, they got better at referring vets to Choice, making multiple visits to the provider, and at times… Read more »
luvmykiddies
luvmykiddies
Hmmmm…. As provocative as this may sound, I think at some point soon, we, as veterans and for which these facilities are to allegedly operate, we must literally tgo in and take over the VA nationwide. It is apparent that these pathetic pieces of human inconvenience dictate a liberal and marxist policy of obedience especially without due process. This is sickening……. Those womb rejects working in the VA essentially are the handlers of the strings and they want veterans to… Read more »
Jackie Cox

Right on

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Those womb rejects ..LOL….now thats a good one

james gallegos

Write to the Secretary with all documentation you have and tell your story if enough of us write what happened maybe he can follow the OIG recommendations an stop this illegal committee.

they wonder why veterans are committing suicide.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

Following.

Dennis
Dennis
What does the new legislation do to protect veteran whistleblowers from the notorious DBC process? Seems to me the Kangaroo Court system embraced by VA is more out of control than ever. Accused, tried by a jury from a common labor union, convicted, THEN a vet is informed post trial that you have been charged with a crime, convicted by unknown persons, who met at an undisclosed location, at an undisclosed time, that merits interference with your liberty and property….… Read more »
LP
LP

Good question.

namnibor
namnibor

@Dennis- “[…Tell me, Mr. President, does your new office have authority to prosecute miscarriage of justice and Due Process denied and perpetrated upon untold thousands of vets, or are you just gonna make the VA workers safer from themselves?…]”

Body condoms should work.

Windguy
Windguy

Nami – minor correction respectfully suggested, “Tell me Mr. President, is your new office even interested in prosecuting miscarriage of ……” Body bags are inevitable…

Lem
Lem

The right hand giveth while the left hand taketh away. Nothing new since the Revolutionary War Warrants.

W2 Team Leader
W2 Team Leader
Off topic but important.. So there is a military ran Disney resort I discovered while searching for a summer vacation to take my family to. It’s called shades of green. I was really excited about it until I read into it further. There website states that you are only eligible if you are active duty retired or 100% disabled vet. Non retired vets can only visit during the months of January and September. WTF kind of a “spit in the… Read more »
Dysfunctional Doc
Dysfunctional Doc
I’ve said this all along . Claim improved accountability with 2017 bill . But fail to mention Appeals Modernization Act attached to it ,while removing rights we already have in the Appeals process. Shizam Appeals backlog fixed . Just like denying hundreds of thousands of Claims , forcing veterans to Appeal fixed the claims backlog .Evil magicians at it again . Oh and VA lawyers .Let’s see one caught masterbating , at work in front of large window to crowd… Read more »
Jo3n
@figure8fan, I can’t count the number of times, in last 3 years, a similar account. I think every Veteran has been there at least once. More often, it’s too often. By speaking one’s mind, without a threat, was free speech. Look what people say all the time. Lying is protected by free speech. Like Dennis says, without a crime, accusations of a crime, no rights offered; They took from you, what life,liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Your property. They do… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Truly it is all bad but they like to dress it up with a good cover story for window dressing.

namnibor
namnibor
Rat Bastards! All this will do is make the process even more convoluted with the fulfillment of the VA and Gov’t’s incessant need to create even more bureaucracy in the name of a “band aid fix”, which unfortunately, like all other previous “band aid fixes” eventually peel right off and yet another is placed on the leaky dike. (that did not look right when typed, but oh well) Hope to be wrong but the VA has a negative track record… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
@Namnibor – – – Good to see you! I, too – – – hope you are wrong. But I know you are not. The problem however is not an impossible one to solve. It can be accomplished with a “7-Step Solution”: FIX THE DAMN BROKEN VA: 1. Expedite implementing the HOLMAN RULE. 2. Recognize the problems inherent in the VA are SYSTEM-WIDE, not just limited to a few locations. 3. Fire all the Lazy No Good Workers. Fire EVERY single… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

All those VA facilities could be easily converted to prisons for the AFGE Piggies then encase in concrete, set, and forget. Sham Wow!

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Namnibor – – – Too bad we couldn’t get them under the dome at Chernobyl. From what I read, it will need recasing soon. Think of all the Toxic US Cancer we could eradicate with that Radiation Treatment.

Any VA/AFGE folks up for a Volunteer Study for Veterans Research?

namnibor
namnibor
@Disgruntled Veteran- Actually, what would happen with VA Swamp Beasts if they were encased in a Chernobyl concrete radiation-containment dome is they would mutate into even more gregarious assholes. That, or they are completely resistant to heavy dose radiation due to working at a VAMC where the VA likely never spent the $$ to properly shield the plethora of X-Rays and such, let alone properly dispose of such waste and old machines, so they all get freely radiated each and… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Nam – – – Yeah, man. Must be more brain damaged than I thought! Don’t know how I could have missed that. Particularly as every time I file a VA claim – – – they respond with “VA SMASH !!!”

Explains it all . . .

namnibor
namnibor

@Disgruntled Veteran- Okay, you made me spit coffee all over my recently cleaned screen…and I had honey in coffee for sweetener, making it oh so much more fun! 🙂 Thanks for the laugh. “VA SMASH !!!” 🙂

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Nam – – – I’ll quote an Old Biker Friend of mine who did the same thing to me a few months ago: “Always Glad to help”. Fortunately when he did it, I did NOT have my honey sweetener in my coffee.

I think we have probably met in real life. Many eons ago . . .

namnibor
namnibor
I want to say that after seeing quite a few Veterans and Disabled Veterans at my father’s funeral and talking to them and telling them about this site of Ben’s, each and everyone of them have been seriously let-down by the VA Medical. Everyone of them. Note: each Veteran relative that has option to use Medicare because of age or disability, refuses to utilize the VA…and I heard stories of their friends from current wars that also have been seriously… Read more »
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91Veteran
91Veteran
This is interesting news. I did not know rat bastards in Congress were trying to tie screwing veterans and appeals with VA accountability. Why not do this with other federal programs? Why is it a veteran promised benefits always getting the short end of the stick from Congress when they don’t screw recipients in other federal programs like Medicare? School loans? Farm subsidies? Can you imagine what would happen if Congress were constantly screwing around behind the scenes to reduce… Read more »
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Not a single positive comment…………….Hey President Trump…….you getting the memo here?

Ex va
Ex va

@-.-..—, trying to be somewhat positive here. The government has made agencies change in the past when they became out of control. The va has just had too much authority without any accountability.

How is your dog? I hope everything is fine.

Ex va
Ex va

@-.-..—, sorry i missed you tonight lost charge tonight for some reason. Talk to you later. Take care.

Nick Nardo
Nick Nardo

Who’s here?

Ex va
Ex va

@ Nick Nardo, you still here?

Nick Nardo
Nick Nardo

Where going to have Mexico build the Great Wall of the US’s Southern Boarder. And, if Canada keeps hoarding the wood product prices, I’ll have them Red Mounties build a Northern Boarder Wall. Bad behavior, bad behavior. I’m going to put those Northern neighbors of ours on the Nation Disruptive Behavior List. And, I’ll create another Executive Order. Mess with me will they. Suck my teat.

Nick Nardo
Nick Nardo

I forgot to say, suck my orange haired teat.

namnibor
namnibor

Keep that orangutan’s orange teat to yourself. 🙂

Ex va
Ex va
This action kinda reminds me when the started to reform the internal revenue service. People were losing homes and everything when the irs was out of control. All the charges and fees where so that an individual could not afford to pay the penalties. The irs lost ground in a lot of court cases and then it finally began to change. I feel that maybe with the va being sued and losing in courts they may lose their authority like… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

The congress critters are actively also again, exempting themselves AND ALL congress critter interns and aids from new healthcare bill….AND…guess what else?

The congress critters are ALSO going to allow individual states to opt-out on medical preconditions, meaning, if you happen to have a few more chronic health issues, you will be paying premiums and costs out the ass………….WTF?

RAT BASTARDS.

VAISLYING INC
potous triumper is the swamp now VETS SCREWED AGIN BUY VA DC HQ COME MERDIA POTUS TRUMPER YO ARE THE SWAMP NOW IN DC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Dennis
Dennis
Let us be blunt; IF America decides that vets need to be pushed off onto a government run clusterfuck called VA healthcare, there is ONLY one way to institute accountability. We must allow the system alreaady in place and refined through thousands uupon thousands of individual cases in America. We have a system so very good at holding doctors accountable that ONLY in VA can doctors maim, hurt, and neglect patients because in the private sector they simply do not… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Hey Elf, Did you happen to catch what needs to be added to the list. “https://www.facebook.com/30thSpaceWing/posts/10156032139989897” “30th Space Wing (Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.)” “MINUTEMAN III SCHEDULED TO LAUNCH VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. – An operational test launch of an Air Force Global Strike Command unarmed Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile is scheduled for Wednesday, April. 26, between 12:01 a.m. to 6:01 a.m. from north Vandenberg Air Force Base. The purpose of the ICBM test launch program is to… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Didn’t know about the missile firing. I gotta feeling we may like the outcome of his meeting with the Senate! How about Ted Cruz’ idea of using ‘El Chapo’s’ drug money to build the wall, since the GOP’s new budget doesn’t include it! Here’s one for you ——– From; “The Still Report” dated: 25 April 2017 (9:00 min long) Titled; “Why Did Rep Chaffetz Attack Gen Flynn?,1596 This video has a video within it from Freedom Watch. (The Federal Prosecutor… Read more »
LP
LP

Off topic…

“http://wakingtimesmedia.com/never-forget-hero-cop-blew-whistle-okc-bombing-not-commit-suicide/?utm_source=Waking+Times+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a071b0d370-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_25f1e048c1-a071b0d370-54424941”

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

LP i read that one when it came out …another one gets screwed for being honest….According to his widow, instead of being showered with accolades by the US government for his heroism, Yeakey was killed, with his death being framed to look like a suicide (although a very poorly staged one) only days before receiving the police department’s Medal of Valor for his heroic rescue efforts on day of the Oklahoma City bombing…..

Don Treply
Don Treply

The VA doesn’t teat me very well. And I don’t think it teats anyone well so long as the DBC is around.

Dennis
Dennis
How long do you think a civilian hospital would remain viable if they instituted a DBC in the general population!?!? Pile on top of that what would happen if that same civilian hospital employed its own armed security force whom they could dictate escort you at all times while on property. How any milliseconds Ben, would it take for an ENORMOUS lawsuit to be filed if they started sending out letters to paying customers that they had been deemed misfit… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

I’m thinking at this point it would take some ‘ring-knocker veterans’ receiving shitty substandard third world medicine for change to actually happen to benefit Veterans but even then, those changes might only apply to those accustomed to the metallic taste of silver when eating their caviar in first class when traveling or wiping their asses. Same orifice, same difference. 🙂

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I gotta really bad feeling about this!
As in —–
“Dog and pony show!”
“Smoke and Mirrors!”
“Band-Aid Fixer-upper!”
All at the expense of the veterans!
I don’t believe we’re going to see any true reform of the Veterans Administration until ________ _______ _________ _________ _______?

Y’all fill in the blanks!

namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf- Let me try: Until Hell Itself Freezes Over? Close? 🙂 If not, how about: Until AFGE Weaned From Teats? 🙂

Windguy
Windguy

Until the military is starved of fresh meat. Go make life miserable for your local recruiter.

Psychological Imposter
Psychological Imposter
Listen Up – Just Approved – Guess the right 5 word phrase by Crazy elf, and the VA will give you 100% proper healthcare, streamline and approve your claim(s), remove your name from the VA’s Disruptive Behavior Committee’s List, and a bonus of $25k. Plus, you’ll be able to pick and submit the names of 1000 VA Union Employees that will immediately be dismissed upon the correct phrase being submitted. All Veterans are eligible whether you have the right or… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Psychological Imposter – – – BOLO Head. Not BALLAH head. Garans Ballbarans, Brah!

Psychological Imposter
Psychological Imposter
@Disgruntled Veteran – VA Shully Shulkster reviewed your VA records. You’ve been put back onto the Disruptive Behavior Committee’s List [DBRL] for the umpteenth time due to possibly recognizing the real PI and for challenging the contents of an approved post. You’re a Veteran that can’t focus on the prizes; a downright trouble maker because of your perceived awkward and deviant behavior and knowledge. Your complete military jacket has been put into a special category, one that will be named… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

Brah,

Gotz me laff so haad no can reply . . .

TANKS!

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Elf – – – National Military Service Is Mandatory.

Caveat: With Zero Exception.

Psychological Imposter
Psychological Imposter

Humor helps to relieve stress, sometimes.

FLB
FLB

Would someone tell J. Gallegass, that during the Viet Nam era there was no such diagnosis as PTSD. It was through the research done on returning veterans during the war and after that the criteria was developed to establish a full diagnosis. Thanks to the Veterans of Viet Nam, in 1980 a diagnosis of PTSD was added to the DSM by the American Psychological Association.

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