BAD OPTICS: Trump Cancels ‘Bring Your Child To Work Day’ To Sign Executive Order

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Bring Your Child To Work Day

Today, President Trump’s signing of a new executive order not only put bad VA employees on notice, but it had an unintended consequence affecting some children.

In an odd turn of events, President Trump’s visit to VA headquarters was not all chocolates and roses for VA employees at the head of the most beleaguered agency in the federal government.

While signing into effect an executive order aimed at ultimately improving VA for its employees, Trump also cast a shadow on the children of those same VA employees.

Each year, VA and the federal government holds an annual ‘bring your child to work day’ at the agency. As chance would have it, the pomp and circumstance of today’s gala in creating the Office of Accountability and Whistleblower Protection also resulted in President Trump forcing VA to cancel the child-centric ‘bring your child to work day.’

One VA employee familiar with the matter stated, “Today was take your kid to work day all over the government. The VA canceled it because of Trump visit. Said they will do it next year.”

He continued, “Interesting stance. Nothing improves employee engagement more than canceling this event in favor of announcing an office that will help fire more folks… Oh, and also help whistleblowers. Irony.”

Given President Trump’s command over the federal government and his incredibly off-the-cuff statements about his tremendous support for “beautiful babies,” the timing seems not well thought out.

Do we give Trump and “A” for effort or should he ask his press team to wake up?

RELATED: Trump’s Support For “Beautiful Babies” Is Tremendous

Is it just me, or does it seem clear that the White House chief of staff has a horrible grasp on how to help the president look good?

The optics here do not look good, and the president certainly cannot afford unforced errors like this simple scheduling goof. For a president who made a point to have his 12-year-old son stand beside him when he announced his election day win, this kind of lack of consideration for his employees seems peculiar… almost as if someone is trying to help Trump look worse day to day in the eyes of the public and his employees.

Why not have the child-centric event on a different day? Or, why not schedule the executive order signing on Friday?

Either option seems like an easy fix to this unforced error.

But for this fan of “beautiful babies,” he certainly has an unusual way of reinforcing the parent-child relationship. Few things could help sway the heart of a corrupt employee than looking into the eyes of children, right?

Maybe I am off base, but the bad optics seen only within the VA could have been resolved using a little common sense.

VA was asked for comment did not respond concerning the cancellation prior to publication.

Creation Of Office Of Accountability And Whistleblower Protection

Earlier this week, you read here that President Trump announced his intent to create yet another VA watchdog on top of the existing VA watchdogs in the Office of Special Counsel and Office of Inspector General. The new office is called the Office of Accountability and Whistleblower Protection.

The premise behind creating the new office is that VA needs another watchdog to help the existing watchdogs do more of what they already do not do enough of – hold VA employees accountable while protecting whistleblowers.

‘Why not merely add funding to the existing watchdog offices?” you may be asking.

Great question.

Lord only knows what VA needs is yet another internal bureaucracy via the creation of yet another internal organization with still more internal rules and positions that must be created and funded by Congress.

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Anthony Holland
Anthony Holland
Well nothing would make Me happier than to Waite 3 months for an appointment only to find balloons Clowns and a ton of Kids roaming around the hospital , This is crazy the staff doesn’t have time to do Their job as it is and then some dumbass decides it would somehow serve the Veterans who go to the VA for care to have the Employees bring in Their kids for free ice cream?? Seems the priorities are FUBAR I… Read more »
Richard W
Richard W
WOW, Poor, Poor VA employees. Let’s micromanage everything that the President does and spend countless hours looking for any action that will offend anyone. “My God, how could this happen” screams the poor babies at the VA. Let’s focus on fixing it, not enabling these spoiled rotten employees. I can say this because I know, I was a VA employee and saw the outrageous behavior DAILY. Why do you think the VA is so messed up? It’s the employees. I… Read more »
james gallegos
I am also a former VA employee and I agree management does not like to get bad news about wrongdoings and we hear from hundreds of current and past employees on how they tried to do the right thing and the retaliation starts. The new executive order to assist the secretary if used will help and they will have no more excuses as to why they can not fire a bad employee. If and when they attempt to fire an… Read more »
Rick b
Rick b
Come on really?,,, now were going to find fault with the President because he interrupted bring you child to work day.. BS VA Employees could still have their children at work, it would have been a better day, the children would have seen the President in person as a kid , that would be kool… No this was not the President’s fault, the VA decided to cancel the event.. as far as the new office….more BS.. if the old watchdog… Read more »
fubar
fubar

Well said. Give me a break! This had nothing to do with President Trump and is not even newsworthy. Another VA overreaction. Let’s focus on fixing the claims process.

sitmwm
sitmwm

@fubar – good, besides healthcare, va needs to focus on fixin claims process. the va is one big popping out money machine.

SAVE THE HOME
SAVE THE HOME
“Beleaguered” means broken, as in the DVA (witness WLA “HOME” given away to non-veteran Brentwood School and UCLA Baseball). If engaging that larger matter prevents this special day, bring it back at a later date. What part of “care for them who have borne the battles” (DVA’s new spin on President Abraham Lincoln’s line)? The new “watchdogs” are not the traditional VSO’s, let’s be clear. It is volunteer groups and individuals (for the most part) against paid government employees and,… Read more »
Shannon
Shannon

Bad optics are the children of veterans who die and don’t have the opportunity to go to work with their parents.

91Veteran
91Veteran
I dunno Ben. I find it hard to get exercised over canceling a take your child to work day. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly it is bad optics, but having worked in organizations where this happened, I often saw very people actually doing this. In fact, I remember one time in the last 15 years that an employee brought his daughter to work. As for the creation of this new office, I agree with it, simply because the VA has shown… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

very people = very few people

Angela
Angela
All I have to say is I am out of words and out of hope. President Trump’s Chief of Staff did not schedule this properly. Even though, accountability is being enforced to promote better care, the VA employees are still people too. There are some good employees in the VA and there are some poor employees. This error could have been prevented. This error was inhumane and points to President Trump’s administration. President Trump’s administration should be promoting a more… Read more »
Angela
Angela

Although, the Accountability is needed as well as the Whistle-blower protection, I do not blame this situation on President Trump because he does have a full plate. I link this situation to his staff and the VA though.

Angela
Angela
And too, I believe the new VA Accountability and Whistle Blower Protection Office should stand alone. The office should be apart of the Trump Administration but not attached to the VA itself. It should be separate from the VA Secretary David Shulkin. The office should serve as an oversight office with answering to the Trump Executive Branch not Congress. Also, all PATIENT ADVOCATES in all VA facilities should be aligned under this Accountability Office. The PATIENT ADVOCATES SHOULD BE REMOVED… Read more »
Angela
Angela
And another addendum to my comments, the 24 hour Hotline that President Trump has been promising should be implemented under this new Accountability and Whistle-blower Protection Office. This Hotline should be set up to allow direct communication from the veterans to this Office of Accountability and Whistler-Blower Protection Office. If this could be done, this would be a WIN WIN to assist the veterans and get the VA moving forward. Although, it really still depends on the officials doing their… Read more »
Angela
Angela
The bottom line Benjamin is President Donald J. Trump gets an “A+” not just an A. He is having to do a lot of changes with executive orders because of his obstructive Congress and obstructive Senate with including both Liberal Republicans and Democrats. I am not including the Freedom Caucus who are the real Conservatives who want this Socialism gone out of this country and replaced with Capitalism. President Trump signed an executive order for now but for the Accountability… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Angela – – – Yes, Mam. That is the “Real Teeth” I was referring to. Do it that way, and it would be/provide a real service to veterans by cutting down on VA management dishonesty by 80 to 85%. And they should also have the power to go after AFGE Union leadership.

Dawn
Dawn

You nailed it, Angela.

namnibor
namnibor

“Bad Optics” are the unseen Heroes that set themselves on fire in front of VAMC’s or blow their brains out.

I have nothing against regular children, just not the Children of The Corn AFGE Type. 🙂

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Nam – – – Well stated.

Warhorse
Warhorse

Boo-fucking-who. Seriously, take your kid to work day at VA?? About the only thing that accomplishes is showing the next generation how easy it is to suck on the federal tit. AFGE is probably filing numourous grievances claiming that POTUS affected their ability to distribute the coveted Jr. G-man membership cards. As I’ve stated before, and will many times in the future, Fuck Off VA and AFGE.

namnibor
namnibor

You’re onto something there. Nepotism at the VA was literally nipped in the bud for one year. 🙂

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Warhorse – – – Good Catch!

Warhorse
Warhorse

Thanks Nam and disgruntled vet. I call it like I see it. I’ve been to many meetings at VA HQ on Vermont Ave in D.C. I’ve seen the waste and shenanigans that go on there. That’s at the HQ, one can only imagine what goes on throughout the country.

namnibor
namnibor

@Warhorse- Thing is, no matter how thin you spread shit, it always smells the exact same way a huge pile of shit smells. I grew-up on a farm and Southwest one square mile was a huge pig farm and polar opposite North East one mile was a massive chicken farm.
Yes, two different varieties of noxious shit but at the end of the day, it’s still shit!!!

So go VA Employees. The Shit Smear Analogy is complete.

Ex va
Ex va

@namnibor, dad always said you can’t shine a turd.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
Basically a good day for Veterans – – – provided this new office for the protection of Whistleblowers is given some real teeth to do its job. The more people within the VA who come forward speaking out about problems within the VA – – – the quicker corrections will be made. ALL Veterans will be better off for that. I care more about substance than optics. VA can reschedule “Bringing the Kiddies to work”. Probably a LOT less “disruptive”… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

On such days even the nurses trim their nostril and unibrowl hairs and freshly braid and bead their underarm hairs for the year and even smile with their pointy rat teeth.

In a mood.

Ralph D Carmona Sr
Ralph D Carmona Sr

So am I Nam. What the fuck do I care about a bunch of VA assholes, shitty little brats? Do they care that my grandkids can’t get help from grandpa to go to college. Do they consider what life will be like without their grandpa around? Fuck no that’s the answer! I’m sorry Ben I have to disagree this time,

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
I think we are ALL in a mood. I want substance OVER optics. If they put REAL TEETH in this thing – – – it would be an improvement for all veterans. But will they? Only time will tell – – – but the VA’s past track record for the last couple decades CAN be used as a guide to current and future performance predictions. How has their performance been? Below Piss Poor. I think even Big Ben is in… Read more »
Jo3n

They make it sound like POTUS was at every VA. Why the Employees cancelled is on them, unless POTUS cancelled Their day. There’s just a lot of stupid people running things.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

jo3n good point (They make it sound like POTUS was at every VA)

Jo3n

I wouldn’t want to be the first whistleblower under this new ???? Is it retroactively applied?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
I agree with everyone. POTUS had absolutely NOTHING to do with canceling “bring your kid to work day!” This “signing of an executive order” was telegraphed well in advance for VA employees to still bring their “curtain climbers” to work. Like one brother said, (paraphrasing) “What a thrill it would have been!” As for the executive order, the truth behind it will just have to be seen. Will more employees come forth with condemnation about VA? Will the current Whistleblowers… Read more »
Ashley
Ashley

Why couldn’t they just reschedule the kids coming for next week or something? They didn’t have to cancel it completely. Geez

Shannon
Shannon

Well, then they couldn’t complain.

Dawn
Dawn
It was unnecessary to cancel “Take your child to work day,” which is an annual nation-wide event that has taken place in both the private and public sectors. Parents have to go to some effort to plan and prepare–coordinate with school, resolve with ex-spouse who’s going to take the child to work. VA sent an email notifying employees the day was canceled on the day before. It was wrong and unnecessary. VA manipulated the optics of the visit. Only the… Read more »
sitmwm
sitmwm
contact me, i’ll show you what to put in your bosses coffee. you can buy product at your local pharmacy, or still some from the va’s pharmacy, i don’t care. add this to their food, then watch as they fall to the floor in pain, foam from the mouth as they try to ask for help, then after they expire, you can have the janitor come and clean up their excrement. don’t worry, va employees have full insurance and burial… Read more »
Shannon
Shannon

We want them accountable and punished…not dead (or at least I don’t)

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Shannon – – – Precisely. Held accountable and punished to the full extent of the law. Death would be too swift and merciful for them. Keep them alive and let them suffer.

sitmwm
sitmwm

steal instead of still. i got so excited that i misspelled the word.

sitmwm
sitmwm

your a softie, they’ll run all over you. man or woman up. by the way, can someone please post this Executive Order by Trump. i’d like to see what and how whistleblowers will be protected, plus all the other goodies that most of us have been waiting for. shall i bring fans for any smokescreens?

sitmwm
sitmwm

Shannon, no worries, i’m just razzing you. i’ll fedex shovels to va facilities. humor, humor, oh that sicko humor.

Dawn
Dawn

lol. Thank you sitmwm. I appreciate you humorous advice. It helps, really, any moral (immoral?) support helps.

Ex va
Ex va
@Dawn, i appreciate different opinions and views in a discussion but, you know that you are in a disabled Veteran blog, right? I take it you are still employed at the va and was given half a day off today, but upset that you could not bring your child to work and the inconvenience of scheduling with the school and the ex-spouse ruined your day. Do you have any idea what a disabled person struggles with just to walk or… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
Parents have to go to some effort to plan and prepare–coordinate .BOO HOO HOO .IF IT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR IN THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR YOU KNOW ABOUT IT WELL IN ADVANCE….. AND YOUR STATMENT i believe you can only understand your own little world and your own little problems. You seem very small to me of a person and i see no heart or compassion in you….SO YOUR PROBLEMS ARE BIG AND OUR PROBLEMS AIN’T SHIT TO YOU,… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

SORRY EX VA GOT YOU CONFUSED WITH DAWN… I NEED MORE COFFEE

?ex va
?ex va

@OLDMARINE, LMAO!!! Thank you, you had me laughing again this afternoon. Hahahaha!! I have trouble remembering half of what is say anyways. Trolls are ??!!!! Seymore has the skills to get them in trouble on this site. Troll Dawn or Tony or whatever definitely may have to answer to coming on a disabled veteran site causing trouble.

Dawn
Dawn

ex va and old marine: If you consider any post you don’t understand or with which you disagree to have been posted by a troll, that tells you one thing: You’re the troll. I also noted there is an Ex va and a ?ex va. Act like men.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I JUST BOUGHT A CRISTAL BALL AND IT TELLS ME YOUR NOT MARRIED BECAUSE YOU COULDN’T EVEN FIND HUMOR AT THE COMEDY CLUB …ALL WORK AND NO PLAY WILL SURELY MAKE YOU THAT WAY …..HAVE A GREAT NIGHT

?ex va
?ex va
@Dawn, i don’t understand what you motivation is or the pain you are in. Pain will not go away as long as you continue to inflict it on others. You may have to reap what you sow, i would be cautious. I use my same name, i elect to put shit in front of it from time to time trying to be a little funny. Probably is a little juvenile but can be somewhat entertaining for myself. I will make… Read more »
Dawn
Dawn

Again, you are projecting your own qualities, actions, and motivations onto me. I’ve revealed far more personal details about myself than you have, and you proved your lack of empathy. I suspect you are an ex va employee removed for not doing his job. Your vaoig excuse makes no sense. If you don’t currently work for va, you don’t have to worry about oig. oig doesn’t investigate an employee without a reason.

91Veteran
91Veteran
Yeah I gotta call bullshit on that OIG comment about them having a reason to investigate an employee, which was not stated by exva that he was the target. If the IG was investigating an employee in the last 8-10 years, it was because they were either forced to, or they were being used as a tool to retaliate against that employee. The VAOIG under Griffin saw the handwriting on the wall under Obama and decided to investigate very little,… Read more »
Dawn
Dawn

91Veteran: You nailed it. What you describe regarding the OIG is part of / adds to the problem.

james gallegos

maybe the employees should stay home and take care of their kids. No that would not be fair to the kids.
can you imagine what some of these kids have to go through at home. If they act the same way as they treat veterans BAD

Dawn
Dawn

91Veteran: I’m not surprised by your experience. I tried to bring my bosses’ illegal activities to the OIG, and I couldn’t contact them. The SES’s determine who gets investigated. But if you were a whistleblower who’s been out of VA for a while, the OIG would not be investigating you. I think their scrutiny is intended to push “troublemakers” out.

sitmwm
sitmwm

i want to know when va is rescheduling, ‘kiddies see what your mudder and fudder does at work.’ i will arrange for my spouse to go to dc, sit with the curtain climbing brats, give them some cookies, and then show and tell them how to take advantage of their parents. lets corrupt va employee’s children. do you want to buy a bus ticket to the next ‘bring your kiddie to work day at your local va?’ sign here ……….

Ex va
Ex va
I find this kinda humorous hahahahahahahaha!!!! what makes anyone think that always a new agency will fix where another agency fails… Don’t think it will work, i really wish it would work and may test the waters. Just saw so much corruption at that agency. I have this feeling that POTUS doesn’t care much for his federal workers feelings. Hahahahahahaha!!! va didn’t recognize the laws that were in place to stop the corruption in the first place and this new… Read more »
Windguy
Windguy
Ben asked, “Is it just me, or does it seem clear that the White House chief of staff has a horrible grasp on how to help the president look good?”. I guess this assumes that this president is capable of listening to anyone else trying to manage his brand/image. I don’t get a sense that this guy is wired that way. That said, I could really care less about a government union taking another day off – as much as… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@Windguy, it is like POTUS does not care what is his brand or image. i like kids too. they would be the innocent ones to have their feelings in what happened in the cancellation.

sitmwm
sitmwm

what does ex va stand for? did you use to live in Virginia? use to know someone by the name of Virginia? need some Virginia? what does ex va mean?

sitmwm
sitmwm
i went through some old medicine bags, and found some tabs of pills in out of date prescriptions. i forgot about this bag. the pills looked fine, and when i pressed on them, the tablets didn’t crumble. although the pills looked like they were sweating micro-beads of moisture. i wiped them off, took 3 of them on an empty stomach, waited 20 minutes, and luckily, it was enough to help me feel a little better. feels like it may be… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@sitmwm, i was unfortunately an employee at a va medical center. I found corruption in the va system i reported it as per policies and suffered retaliation for it. Never did get justice for some of the complaints. They just turned up missing. Sorry, i am not from Virginia, i hear that is a nice state to live in.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Ex va – – – Have you figured out who SITMWM is yet? Writing style gives him away.

Ex va
Ex va

@Disgruntled Veteran, i don’t know? LOL!!! Is is you or ANutterVet. It is not cj right?

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
@Ex va – – – Not me. I do not play those kind of games. My humor can be sick, but I take what I read (and those I correspond with) here seriously. Way I see it, Multiple Posting Identity Disorder impedes what most of us are trying to accomplish here. Major decision I was referring to the other night, was that I was thinking about beginning to post using my REAL name. Seeing these kind of games played here… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@Disgruntled Veteran, it has to be ANutterVet. He has fooled me before. LOL!

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@Ex VA,@Disgruntled Veteran,@Joan: I have never posted under a different handle. I have changed the look though, to be clear, cj is the same as -.-. .— just in the look of morse code. Just the kid in me, and I like the way it looks. I sure thought I made this perfectly clear to all, when I made the change. I will not comment on the days issues, I don’t feel it will change the course of shit. I… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@cj – – – I know you have always been an honest poster, CJ. That is why I mentioned that. You should have my contact info by now. Drop a line sometime.

Veterans Treatment Court in Honolulu is actually a two-year program that surprisingly works fairly well. I know a few graduates. Big Ed Kubo runs the show. He is a tough, caring fair-minded individual.

Ex va
Ex va

-.-. .—, glad to hear from you cj. I know the tablet is a pain to type on at times. I know too that you have been an honest poster. I know who has been the jokester now. Lol!!! I know he is trying to pull our leg at times and be funny. I am an honest poster too, and i fall for most jokes a lot!! Take care cj and hope to talk to you soon.

figure8fan
figure8fan

Now you know where all that money the VA is not spending on hiring new employees. They will now have to compensate every VA employee for not being able to bring their child to work. That will take care of some of that cash sitting around not being used for veterans.

figure8fan
figure8fan

Now you know where all that money the VA is not spending on hiring new employees.
Should say:
Now you know where all that money the VA is not spending on hiring new employees will go.

Ex va
Ex va

@figure8fan, typos are no big deal here, we have trouble reading sometimes anyways. Lol!!! I know what you meant the first time. ?

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
“Veterans Affairs has 346 workers who do only union work” by Sean Higgins | Apr 27, 2017 “http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/veterans-affairs-has-346-workers-who-do-only-union-work/article/2621385” “At least 700 federal workers do nothing but work on official time, according to the GAO and data obtained from various Freedom of Information Act requests. The VA uses official time far more than any other agency. “Employees spent approximately 1,057,00 hours on official time for union representation activities … In addition, the data show that 346 employees spent 100 percent of… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@Seymore Klearly, i agree with your personal view on kiddie day too.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

I wonder if they give the conic masturbators and pedophiles the day off on Rug Rat Day. Maybe even firewall the porn sites for Rug Rat Day.

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“Federal employees admit to watching porn at work”

“An investigation by Washington D.C.’s News Channel 4 found that hundreds of federal employees said they have watched pornography at work.”
By FederalSoup Staff
Feb 28, 2017

“https://federalsoup.com/articles/2017/02/28/federal-employees-admit-to-watching-porn-at-work.aspx”

namnibor
namnibor

Nah, the VA just places all the chronic masturbators into an all glass conference room for a group jerk session….that’s also how the VA brainstorms with their “other heads”. 🙂

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

That 346 VA employees who spent 100 percent of their time on official time doing only Union work means that as much as $76,120,000 of the VAs Budget may be spent to employ them. Note also that the 346 workers don’t include those who spend most, not all, of their time doing union work.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

346 FT Employees x 172 hrs. month x 12 months = 714,144 hrs. year

700 FT Employees x 172 hrs. month x 12 months = 1,444,800 hrs. year

1,046 FT Employees x 172 hrs. month x 12 months= 2,158,944 hrs. year

Which one is current and correct?

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, that just boggles the mind. Look at how much this is costing the taxpayer.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Not Known but the article does state that at least “Employees spent approximately 1,057,00 hours on official time for union representation activities”.

Of course that doesn’t include the additional expenses and bonuses they get paid.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va – How are you doing tonight. I know. You’d have to add the hourly wage, cost for worker comp., insurance, don’t forget the bonuses, and all other employee related hourly cost. For easy sake, multiply each number by a mere low end hourly wage of $10.00 hr. I’d say total hourly wage cost per VA employee maybe between $40-75 an hour. This is NOT hourly wage for the VA employee. It is the total cost per man hour… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – Your right then. It seems logical that there most likely were more than 346 employees that were mentioned. Numbers are all over the place. And they think that were dumb shits.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

I would like to point out that many of these are the attorneys and legal department employees with SES employee positions. My best guess estimate of $76,120,000 of the VAs Budget may be spent to employ them is very conservative and the true number is likely much Higher.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – Right on and totally agree. VA most likely always quotes lower costs to defer the spotlight being on them. SK, especially now, the VA doesn’t need anymore attention being focused on them. And, I wouldn’t doubt that they are planning to fudge information as much as possible, unless upper management is going to start throwing their cohorts under the Trumpies Bus Transportation.

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, doing ok, how are you? Good to see you. I think the numbers are higher than what has been reported. Since the va is not honest about numbers and are being highly criticized publicly.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va – Had to visit the head a few times. Urge to go, but only have to wait. I’ve have been taking massive doses of probiotics, and feeding the strains with prebiotics, soluble and insoluble fibers. VA should be prescribing, or at least discussing the use of probiotics when you’ve been on medications for a long period, or your showing signs of digestive problems. Also, been trying to cut way back on sugars, which is had to do with… Read more »
Jo3n

I’ll bite, what are union representation activities? What ever it is, it’s worth a lot of money.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Jo3n – – – It is lobbying for the Union. Think of a “Union Representative” as a “Lobbyist”.

Jo3n

In one day, y’all have found thirty five million dollars not going where anyone will know, and seventy six million dollars more of taxpayers money going to that same graveyard. $111,000,000.00, lost money found. Is there a reward?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Jo3n – Well yes, there is a cut, but first there’s Seymore, Ex va, myself, then you. Oops, there’s no more. You know how that goes. LOL

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, there is suppose to be a 10% reward given to someone who finds fraud, waste and abuse. I think you could move back to the islands on that. ?

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

The truly big question is will the new Office Of Accountability And Whistleblower Protection be as well funded and staffed as the AFGE and there fight against Accountability And Whistleblower Protection?

Probable not since it is the VA.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Given all the money funding both sides comes out of the VA Budget paid by us Veterans and Taxpayers.

Kind of a bizarro kind of thing.

Jo3n

Let Ben claim the reward. He’ll, it’s only the first week. Follow the money.

Ex va
Ex va

@Jo3n, ROFL!!!! Ben deserves it!!!! Poor guy don’t know how he does these articles and all the work he is involved in. He deserves a vacation.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Dose anyone know if the new “Office of Accountability and Whistleblower Protection” replace the “Office of Accountability”? With the joint investigation by the VA Office of Medical Inspector and the “Office of Accountability” suspending Whistleblower, Dr. Barbara Temeck yesterday. Which is the day before the new legislation was signed I am a little confused. Will the new “Office of Accountability and Whistleblower Protection”, funded out of the VA budget, also have to fight against both the “Office of Accountability”, funded… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@Seymore Klearly, you bring up some good points. I wonder the same things on who has the ultimate authority and who has prosecuting authority. Knowing the government, no one knows or could explain it adequately.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Seymore, I read somewhere that this new office was replacing the other office that was created in 2014.

I don’t recall the details, but I believe this new office was supposed to have greatly expanded authority. I thought the old office of accountability was only for a certain level of VA manager or upper manager, and this new office covers ALL VA employees.

namnibor
namnibor
@91Veteran- That naturally will mean at least $1 Million worth of brand new VA Art and another Million for new furniture, even though it’s just yet another deck chair being bolted down with larger chambers, more rats. What I do not get is, why is the VA always allowed to police itself? Even a whistleblower office within the confines of the VA will surely corrupt, wait for it…..maybe they made the conference room windows opaque this time to spare the… Read more »
James Gallegos

The VA has harmed us so much, that we can’t see it getting better. So usa to not having anyone defend us, we are still in a time warp.

We just have to wait and see.

namnibor
namnibor
@James Gallegos- “[…we are still in a time warp…]” “Time Warp” (Rocky Horror Picture Show) ‘ RIFF-it good. (Riff Raff) It’s astounding Time is fleeting Madness takes it’s toll… (Magenta) Ahh… (Riff Raff) But listen closely… (Magenta) Not for very much longer… (Riff Raff) I’ve got to keep control. I remember doing the Time Warp. Drinking those moments when The blackness would hit me. (Riff Raff & Magenta) And the void would be calling. (Guests) Let’s do the Time Warp… Read more »
Tim
Tim
Way off here, Ben, our President is trying to make life better for Injured Veterans and he’s trying to do it as quickly as possible. He has a lot of shit on his plate. He can’t just say, “Oh shit! It’s bring your child to work day at the VA better cancel my schedule for the week to make another time I can sign this legislation!” Everybody expects super Trump but look how much he has already done? if the… Read more »
Shannon
Shannon

? I agree! ?

Dawn
Dawn
I agree with you in concept, but that’s not the way it went in practice. It wasn’t like when Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama were president and visited the workplace. The event was a tightly manipulated for optics. All employees were required to vacate the building by 13:00. He visited at 16:30. Everyone who was in the building when he visited are the ones you see on screen (except Secret Service). I don’t have minor children, but I understand it… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
Veterans also look forward to that “DAY” when we are not treated with malicious indifference by the VA. Your VA kiddy day must have interrupted a grand plan of having the kiddies watch while Veterans are used to play Hungry, Hungry Hippos….bet that really made you VA employees incredibly butthurt. Nevermind the fuckery the VA dishes out for Vets and LEAVES US WAITING….but oh, when a cuddly wuddly VA employee kiddy day is interrupted for the FIRST TIME and ONLY… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Nam, I think we are completely missing the daily suffering these pencil pushing bureaucrats at VACO struggle through daily. Bring your child to work day is another day that denial letter to that veteran can be ignored. Or that phone call can wait another day. Or that complaint can be ignored. Or that claims problem/VocRehab problem can be delayed. I mean, veterans often wait days, months, years for the above to happen, so what’s one more day when an overworked… Read more »
Sara
Sara

Do you have all contact numbers? There is a VA Help Contacts List. It’s new so you may not have it. Is there a way I could get it to you? I have it on electrons, but I don’t see a way to post a pdf to this site.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Sara – – – You could send it to Ben. If Big Ben deems it relevant to assisting veterans, you can bet he will be sharing it with us.

Sara
Sara

Excuse me. I meant to post that to ex VA. I’m in the wrong thread, but I’ll send to Ben.

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