Are 500 VA Terminations A Major Change Or A Joke?

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VA Termination Numbers

Some senior leaders within VA are highlighting (through backchannels) that recent termination numbers are likely a publicity stunt.

While VA brags a turnover rate of less than 1 percent, the normal attrition rate is closer to 10 percent for all types of organizations. So, is a 0.13 percent attrition rate worth bragging about?

Maybe, if your goal is to NOT keep the best and brightest employees. Maybe, if you want to perpetuate the fraud of VA existing for the purpose of helping veterans.

How can an attrition rate less than one percent be anything worth boasting about?

If You Exist In Wizard Of Oz

Here, in reality, we know VA simply does not do this and no one reading the headlines could believe an agency broken for 80 years is actually functioning to help the veterans it supposedly services. At least no sane person could think that.

Let’s not be surprised, too much, about an agency formerly called the Bureau of War Risk Insurance. The modern VA is an insurance company for VA. It has been this way for a century, and the agency does best when it denies benefits at any cost.

That is what VA does well, and it will continue to strive. No president can change this direction.

Terminations Under McDonald

In the not too distant past, former VA Secretary Robert McDonald announced he terminated a few thousand employees linked to the waitlist scandal. Senator Johnny Isakson quickly corrected McDonald, highlighting that he is not good at math, either.

The real number was closer to 3-4 employees. What McDonald failed to account for were the usual problems organizations as big as VA experience concerning terminations for misconduct.

In realty, many hundreds if not thousands of employees move through VA as a result of terminations or attrition. Not all of these are linked to terminations from what American taxpayers have demanded since 2014 – – which is accountability for fraud.

Now, VA under David Shulkin has boasted over 500 terminations over six months. But is that number significant in anyway? VA is holding out the terminations as a sign of accountability, but using VA numbers under McDonald, the present boast seems like little more than bragging about the sun coming up in the morning.

VA Termination Numbers

Let’s put it another way.

VA is an organization with more than 300,000 employees.

In two years, McDonald bragged about terminating 3,000 employees via accountability measures, but those measures were nothing to boast about. Instead, VA regularly loses about 1% of its workforce. And, what McDonald boasted about had nothing to do with the accountability America demanded.

With the new supposed Trump accountability plan, the press is highlighting the recent announcement. Yes, 500 people were supposedly terminated over the past six months.

Yay.

That means less than one percent of employees have been terminated despite horrific performance numbers and rampant fraud.

So why is Trump bragging this up?

Only 500 employees were terminated? Given the rampant fraud previously announced, I would argue the present termination numbers are a disappointment.

What do you think?

Source: http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/09/youre-fired-trumps-va-terminates-500-suspends-200-for-misconduct/

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White Rabbit

Excellent analysis, Ben. It is the reason I read your website daily. I sincerely thank you.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Are you in any way connected to recently released emails? If so, BRAVO!

Doyle
Doyle
Which brings US back to the very root of this… the fact that the VA employees unions are about as entrenched and stalwart as any special interest group in the country. Real success at the VA, and that is what I hope and pray for every day, all day long, I’m talking ALL day long, will depend on the Herculean task to come – working with the unions to convince them it’s in their best interest to help US weed out the bad actors n actresses… “Never in the entire course of human history have so many owed so much… Read more »
Doyle
Doyle
Pray with me, please… “Dear God, and Dear Sweet Jesus… Please hold our silent heroes in your perfect arms, nourish them with your wisdom and your Love, help them to help US master this terribly complex situation and bring about a righteous system of justice and support for our beloved vets. Lord, please help them win the day for US ALL, every day from today, which is a Monday, until this existential struggle is complete and conclusive. I’m talkin ALL day long, sir, every day of the week and month and year… until thy will is done on this, your… Read more »
James Gallegos

Thank you we can’t trust anyone else to help us.

namnibor
namnibor

Great article.

However, has the VA simply redefined what a “termination” means by VA terms, which means, “Termination with full benefits or simply moved to yet another whack-a-mole location to infect that area?”

It will not surprise me when that number of 500 is found to actually be only -5-. Wait for it.

Oh, and as LONG as Helman and Graves are still gainfully employed at the VA, I do not believe any of these terminations as real change.

Banish the AFGE Union then start from there in weeding the chaff from the wheat.

APCduck
APCduck

I agree with Wack-A-Mole the unions take care of the ones that have employment issues. Termination just means One fucks up they move up, out of the public’s eye. Still terminations do not go far enough, they should pertain to the management also, with heavier penalty. Trump can not understand this because he has never been there, so he acts on what brethren feed him.

VETFORJUSTICE.CO

THE VA IS ONE BIG BIG FEDERAL RICO CRIME RACKET CONGRESS COWARDS SHUT IT ALL DOWN ASAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roberto E. Benitez, USAF, retired & disabled
Roberto E. Benitez, USAF, retired & disabled

And where should veterans go for medical help then? Medicare doesn’t pay for all services and Medicaid isn’t going to help. Also, many private doctors won’t take Medicare patients.

What we need is for Congress to do its job. Maybe if we put ALL elected federal officials on the TriCare (try-to-get-care) and VA system with a requirement they go to military of VA hospitals matters might improve.

James Gallegos

How about saving billions on VA employee salaries and shut down the VA, give you a card and let you see any private doctor and the government pay for it.

Then the VA regional office can afford to give veterans their deserved disability.

It’s easier to watch one smaller group of people and easier to hold them accountable.

What is the va doing other than harming veterans that the private sector can’t do.

What are they doing right.?

Roberto E. Benitez
Roberto E. Benitez
James Gallegos, in many areas private doctors are reluctant to accept Medicare patients because the rates are too low and the government too slow to pay claims. So unfortunately I don’t see a new government card working that well either. furthermore, what with our healthcare system so royally messed up due to the ACA and a Congress reluctant to correct the damage, do you think the private sector will be able to absorb the influx of veterans? Also, many private care doctors and facilities don’t understand the needs of veterans. So I think we’re between a rock and a hard… Read more »
James Gallegos
Seems the VA does not know how to handle veterans issues, that’s why we are in the mess were in. Veteran’s know and have said there are good VA employees, they also know many employees will harm a veteran if they think they can get promoted or receive a bonus. VA employees have had decades to hire their friend’s or family member’s. These people will never turn in one of these people. Yes, if the VA was closed many new private job’s will be started in the medical field and they can be held accountable and veterans harmed could take… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

As long as Helman, Graves, Hamlin and others are still employed by the VA, there is ZERO accountability in the VA.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

91Veteran,
That’s a start! There’s lots more!

CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!

The best thing to do is FOIA , how many whistleblowers were terminated and the number of civil cases since 2014 are pending. That Tracy Cephas doesnt even answer the FOIA request timely, unless you are a lawyer.
That Darryl Joe is no better in the OIG office.But it is so easy to trip them up in their lies, so nothing will change.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I dunno CorpsmanUp! I think Judicial Watch is starting to warm up to veterans issues with their lawsuits over the California land deal.

If I understand correctly, a FOIA lawsuit is easy money. Hopefully Judicial Watch gets more involved in veterans issues, particularly filing lawsuits for VA refusal to respond to FOIA.

James Clement
James Clement

@91Veteran – – – Amen to that.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
McDonald said an outrageous number of employees were fired. Then it was revealed only a few, 4 or 5, were fired. Now, “Shithead Shulkin”, via the POTUS’ administration, is claiming 500+ have been terminated since January. But, I’ve only actually seen where ONE was fired. That happened to be a whistleblower out of Georgia (I believe)! That was one day BEFORE the new “Accountability and Whistle-Blower Protection Law” was passed. There’s been NO proof – positive – whatsoever, by anyone at VA, where there’s been a “mass firing” of anyone. All we have is the “word” of a few VA… Read more »
Rog
Rog

hear here…

VETFORJUSTICE.CO

AMEN BRO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Genius H Kennard
Genius H Kennard

Hey, Vets, all of us need to right down names of every employee (spy work) and keep track of who’s still

working there and who has actually been let go and then find out where the fired employees have gone to!

Remain anonymous and always send the VA and Washington your intel to let them know that we’re on to

them.

James Gallegos

Did u see where the mspb board only has one person, there were 2 and the lady quit.

What a joke !

T
T
“http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-sues-veterans-affairs-police-va-officials-violating-protesters-constitutional-rights/” Remove quotes as usual. I agree Crazy Elf. I want the freedom of knowing who, what, when, why, and how. The usual stuff journalist and our representatives are supposed to supply us with but don’t. No agency, no union, Congress, attorneys, judges, cops, colleges, veteran groups, country clubbers, town or county councils/officials, secret societies, etc. can, have, or will police their own. When civilian health care workers and doctors cover up or refused to get involved over VA malpractice or over ruining a patient… then things are really bad and corruption, or “professional courtesies” are far out of hand.… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Well said T

PUBLIC IGNORANCE
IS GOVERNMENT BLISS

Roberto E. Benitez
Roberto E. Benitez

Crazy elf, so you believe the VA should ignore privacy laws and post the names of those fired? I can see it for high level appointees, but not at lower levels. Otherwise the government be facing a lot of lawsuits it’d lose.

James Gallegos
The VA breaks the law every day, veterans harmed by VA employees should know if the offender is working and or fired. Please do some research, you can read a lot of veterans posts. Some spell it out in plain language. The VA has let hundreds of veterans die waiting for care and they tried to hide it with secret lists. Why should any employee get away with killing veterans. If a serial killer was loose in your neighborhood would you not like to know who it was or should that be private. Employees breaking the law should not just… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Roberto, that is total bullshit.

Public employees who acted badly do not have a right to privacy.

cj
cj
@Roberto E. Benites: Hold on there a second big guy, what about Veterans rights to privacy? anyone and their brother in law can file a foia request on any Veteran, so why should VA employees expect any different then a Veteran? James Gallegos is correct, shut the damn VA down and with the money saved, YOU can be issued a government health care card, to go to the doctors of YOUR choosing, and have the bill payed in full and the government would still come out wayyyy ahead, even after approving all those claims that are stuck up some union… Read more »
James Gallegos

You can lead a horse to water, but u can’t make him drink. ! Lol

91Veteran
91Veteran

Why? Why would the government be facing lawsuits if they named those fired for breaking the law?

The VA only hides those details so they can hide their own inaction on referring these lawbreakers for prosecution, or their inaction on referring these quacks to state licensing boards to have their licenses revoked for malpractice.

Why hide the name of Hamlin who they tried to fire for misusing taxpayers money in an attempt to pay a $300,000 bribe?

I say they should risk the lawsuit.

James Gallegos

If they can’t release name’s, why are there name’s like the one you mentioned in the news.

More than one Graves and Rubins were all over the net and news.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Well, Roberto,
Looks like you’ve been answered! And, “Yes”, anyone, and everyone, in VA who’s broke the law should have their name(s) published!

T
T
Why not treat the VA like cops do with drug users or sellers? Start at the bottom with users/informants then work their way up to the really big fish. Like up to those in Congress, Governors offices, state agencies, and others who refuse to do their jobs, to follow and bring back the Constitution and serve “the people.” I have lost track and lost my list of people, agencies, groups, I have tried to contact of have over a myriad of issues facing us, or of very corrupt Indiana and Terre Haute. I have refrained from contacting too many local… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
I received these two articles this morning. 1.) From: “Military.com/daily news” Dated: 8 July 2017 By: “Stars and Stripes | by Nikki Wentling Titled; “VA Employee Disciplinary Actions Are Now Public Information” This article says “800” have been terminated. The website to see (“partial information”) is “va.gov/accountability”! NO names are given. Just like what “Seymore” had put on here a day or two ago! Don’t buy into the VA’s bullshit! ________________________ 2.) From: “The Daily Caller” Titled; “Your Fired! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct” by: Luke Rosiak – Investigative Reporter Dated: 07/09/2017 This article, in my opinion,… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Are 500 VA Terminations A Major Change Or A Joke?..Just clear coating A turd… To make it shine

Rog
Rog

Trump just nominated Lockheed in-house counsel James Byrne for VA General Counsel (top law dog…

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Byrne is associate general counsel and chief privacy officer at Lockheed Martin Corp. He joined Lockheed Martin in August 2008 from the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, where he served as the deputy special counsel. Byrne was previously the general counsel and assistant inspector general for investigations with the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, an independent government agency that monitored the use of U.S. funds in Iraq.

SOUND’S LIKE MUSICAL CHAIR’S TO ME…SAME OLD SHIT

Doyle
Doyle

Maybe, sir.
May-be…
But isn’t it more pleasant to hope?
Thanks, I don’t mean to rain on your cloudburst, there, but you guys really need some good news,
and when you get it, you sh*t all over it…
Jesus… help US, PLEASE…

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

With respect, Hope is just an illusion…..

Rog
Rog

Yessir, but it beats the livin shit outta abject despair…
Are we here to learn n grow n participate,
or are we just here to shit all over everything…?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

or are we just here to shit all over everything…?…When I see A pile of shit, It’s shit, I don’t call it with a cherry on top for color con-trast GO TO A VA WEB SIGHT YOU WILL GET ALL THE HAPPY YOU WANT, NOTHING BUT HAPPY JUST FOR YOU,

Rog
Rog

Just a tryin to lighten your load a little, sir. It ain’t ALL so damn gloomy, u know

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I’m just happier than a pig in shit so don’t worry about me ….Take a deep breath can’t you smell it…The love that went into making it

namnibor
namnibor

@OLDMARINE- “…Just clear coating a turd…” 🙂 🙂

The VA is much like that 70’s funny movie called “Groove Tube” where they had a commercial for “The Uranus Corporation” that discovered the multi-uses of “Brown 25”. 🙂

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRPQSxp25z4&t=10s” “At The Uranus Corporation, things come-out a little differently.” 🙂

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Yea but you only get the clear coat if you work in goverment ..The rest of us have to smell it..I saw that one awhile ago…LOL

Rog
Rog

Steve Martin visits the VA…
Happy Monday, y’all…

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

HEEEEEEERE’S Hollwood………..Now for some reality…America First? Not Even Close — Israel and Wall Street First, …They need to get rid of duel citizenship working in our government…

Doyle
Doyle

Yessir… just thought you could use a laugh on a Monday mornin… but I see you have something in common with the Men in Black… no sense of humour whatsoever…

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

no sense of humour whatsoever…..Now you want to be a fucking psychiatrist…Are you sure your not Gomer Pyle’s brother..DUMB ASS

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

By the way don’t call me that insult [SIR] ..That’s just a kiss ass word, for the ass kisser’s……It only took me 4 year’s to make E4 and that was 6 month’s before I got out…LOL

Windguy
Windguy
OldMar chill brother. Ooohhhhmmmmmmmmm. Ohhhhhhmmm. Ooooohhh.. Oooh. Oh fuck it. Go spark up a fattie. Took you four to make four? Sheeeet – I made 4 in 13 months. Made 5 in 23 months. Acting 6 in 28 mo with a promised $25k VRB and warrant officer flight school. Oh – wait – I forgot – you were in the Marines… – the blunt end of the spear. Thank you ladies and gentlemen – you’ve been a wonderful audience. I’ll be here all week at the beautiful Motel Syph in the Drip and Burn Lounge.
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

WINGNUT….Well the old timer’s I had no problem’s with but the boot Lieutenants not so much..Arrogant fucks…,A old COL. I would run into all the time in a town,now he was cool…LOL besides they didn’t give out rank like candy..

Windguy
Windguy
Speaking of candy. My niece’s son in law – Girene air traffic controller – E4. The Corp just offered him an $80,000 re-enlistment bonus and any base on the west coast… Turns out the FAA has a habit of snagging ATCs from the military. Re: Old Colonels. We had a doozy in Udorn – 7th Rock and Roll Freak Show. JJ McFadden was a WWII battlefield enlisted man made a captain by guts and attrition. One night he popped by the barracks I never stayed in, and dined on some of our BBQ burgers and dogs. The BBQ sauce had… Read more »
T
T
“http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449416/david-shulkin-department-veterans-affairs-reforms?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20170713_ADM_west-wing-read” “But Trump’s ambassador to Israel, David M. Friedman, recommended Shulkin to the president, and after impressing Trump he proceeded to win unparalleled support on Capitol Hill; he was the only member of Trump’s cabinet confirmed unanimously.” Since contacting Donnelly my pc has been on the fritz then a big storm hit here putting power out. “https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2017-07-13/ap-exclusive-senator-profits-from-outsourcing-he-slams” No links for local happenings because our media will not post certain things for the rest of the nation to know about or be spread around. All the corrupt commies and Marxist here have to censor and put on the facade. Like a… Read more »
cj
cj

@T: T, don’t give up just yet, you know all it takes is one match to set off a powder keg, Plenty of powder kegs laying about all over the country. Things can really escalate quickly under the right conditions. This would be a good thing.

T
T
I agree and some grand public uproar is what I am waiting for. Sadly my area is full of what we don’t need. College students with Trump stickers are getting their vehicles torn up, just one report on that made so far. Much more is happening but it won’t be made public or put online. The sad part is it is vet against vet, and power cliques and the corrupt out numbering we who are trying to take stands. If anything does happen it better be loud, public, and clear. With the censoring we get here If all hell broke… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

T….watched that video John B. Wells he said #1 thing the DOD sensors the most is veterans suicide so that is what we should be shouting out, LOUDER, and not to a worthless politician but on A billboard with VA is lying

T
T
“Zeusian Revelations” Wow, that looks like a great site. I’ll have to take my time ingesting all that info. Nice to have that much info in one place. Some of it and the families I’ve already read about. I’ll have to put this on my Face Book. Gotta learn something new everyday. The suicides is just another censored and disallowed subject. Be it with vets or kids. While doing my volunteer work before walking away due to the power brokers lies and propaganda, suicides has been epidemic locally. Now days it’s all shoved together under “opium abuse” or “accidental overdose.”… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

T…Your right…But the one’s we see are just pawns in there game….Just like the Forbes most wealthy list, Those are just the paupers on the list… LOL
Having difficulty posting and keeping Internet connection…..Mine does the same thing, They don’t like people that spread the word, But I don’t give a fuck…LOL….LATER

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

T….”http://wishtv.com/2015/10/13/billboards-in-indianapolis-claim-va-is-lying-veterans-are-dying”

He comes on this sight once in awhile

T
T
Old Marine thanks for the bill-board link. I can use that I hope. Something needs to pop and expose Terre Haute & Indiana for what it really is. Here is a link below showing what it is like here if we don’t agree with the majority rule corrupt cliques, college or country club herd here. But the video is not local, just a link emailed to me from the Bronx. “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjSFJnvZclY” That is what the screamers, activist, to the local politician’s thugs may do to us if we aren’t quiet over some issues or revised history. I know there is… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

T, my town won’t allow billboards & I may be wrong on the price but I think it was like $5,000

T
T
First time I ever heard of a town not allowing billboards. Here the prices on advertising is high, using those boards to bus benches are high priced. Then we have to pass the political muster of what or what not is allowed for “public consumption.” Gee I love the words and phrases the fascist tyrants use. I’ve decided to use magnetic signs to put on my vehicle and drive around with my dash-cam on to catch a pull over by cops or other acts from the corrupt crowd. Then I can easily remove them to prevent damages while at a… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish
T, the so called opioid epidemic was designed to ‘thin out the herd’ & it will. When the current street drugs quit doing the job a new one or two or three will be introduced. And the refugees will take the places of the departed, bringing new DNA into the society, along with their baggage. Recovery groups are a joke, just give it all over to god. What a cop-out. Tell them people the shadow gov’t needs you dead & gone & see how quick they get any addiction under control. The World is not what it appears, that much… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

T….Check this out it puts more pieces together It’s a lot of reading….I’m on the bush crime family now…LOL

“https://ahuwahzeus.wixsite.com/mysite/blog”

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: House of Bad Luck? Lmaoooooooooooooooooo sounds like my place, right next to, okay hold on, lips are moving but nothing coming out, ahh there it is, “Ho Lee Fuk no so fine Chinese cuisine” where I get my mis-fortune cookies. I will save this to read later. Thanks.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

T……..This ties in with “Zeusian Revelations” it’s long and slow, I watched it awhile ago and didn’t know what to think, but it makes sense now

Illuminati Wife Tells All – Part 1 of 4 – YouTube

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ly0c0_Rnk”

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
@Doyle, “Maybe, sir.” (just) “May-be…” you should read the article I put on here this morning from “The Daily Caller”, by Luke Rosiak. His “op-ed” is almost identical to what a majority of veterans believe! Especially, when it comes to the VA firing “propaganda!” You have to realize “…the VA pays $25 million/year to a public relations firm…” to give American Citizens and veterans “propaganda” about HOW well vets are being treated! “May-be…” then you’ll understand why veterans don’t believe one word that comes out of the VA’s uncontrollable criminal mouth. Especially when it comes from “Shithead Shulkin”, and other… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Oh, and my comment to “Doyle” could also be aimed at “Rog”!
Don’t need “feel good”, need the VA to start firing incompetent employees. Plus put their names, location and reason for the firing!
“…May-be…” then I *”MIGHT”* believe the VA reprobates!

Rog
Rog
Yessir, I don’t doubt that the propaganda machine shows few signs of flagging… Just LOOK at how many news outlets are carrying this story… VA PR is working OVERtime on this one, fer damn sher… HOWEVER, it just cannot POSSIBLY be ALL lies, could it? I mean, Shithead is working overtime, too, you can see it under his eyes… He’s a DOCTOR, not a smart POOL man, so I trust him to at least be TRYING to fix some this outrageous bullshit during his time… Funny, I had a very brief but to-the-point email communication with McDonald around the time… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Either you’re not getting medical services from the VA, or you do and they have you on more than enough happy pills. Do more research !!! When you get in a VA jam, you’ll be singing a different song. – – – Nutter.

~~~ Gurgle ~~~

91Veteran
91Veteran

I might know where you are coming from Rog if you are the same of the KGB story.

Doesn’t matter.

My brief email exchange with that fukstix McDonald was a “We’ll look into it” after several months of emailing him detailed information of VA incompetence.

It was a smart ass response from him just prior to Memorial Day 2016.

Rog
Rog

McD WAS a fuck stick.
But I’m true Blue.
You’ll see…

cj
cj

-!¡¡!-

namnibor
namnibor

Even through this kick-ass summer cold I have had for a week and still going, I can smell rotten cabbage prominently this morning.

@Doyle & Rog- If you need “feel-good” illusions, just place a few cherries on top of that pile of shit the VA exudes each day all over Vets and Taxpayers. Maybe add some whipped-cream to cover the brown matter then perhaps squeeze a few unicorn farts and glitter on top…but in the end, no matter how you slice it or serve it up….it’s STILL SHIT.

Now, that made me feel awesome.

~~Gurgle~~

The Rog
The Rog
Congrats, sir, you called it. My full name is Roger Doyle Taylor, Esq., so don’t be surprised, surprised, surprised if I post as Roger, Rog, Doyle, THE Rog, etc. Don’t worry, I don’t have split personalities, just a few different names I use capriciously in a whimsical little effort to try to bring some fucking joy into you guys’ admittedly tough lives. Please forgive me sometimes for trying to see The Good in all things and everyone, but I really do cling to that model, knowing it to be far superior to unbroken cynicism n sarcasm… so I promise not… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

The Rog, You have a valid point, now the Dept of VA believes pain is not real & in the brain so they’ve taken away our pain meds.
Happy Positive thoughts release Serotonin, the brains natural pain chemical.
Negative thoughts lock out Serotonin & give you nothing but more pain.
As long as the VA is prescribing the poison Gabapentin for just about everything knowing full well that drug causes brain damage, you won’t hear any happy thoughts from the lot of us.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Negative thoughts lock out Serotonin & give you nothing but more pain….Your right, and so does gmo and nano foods, which they never talk about….I’m not negative I just look at reality…

NiteWish
NiteWish

OldMarine, I saw on the youtube about 2mos ago David Butler research on DIM[neg thought] & SIM[positive thought] & I’ve been experimenting to see if it can work & it does somewhat as long as you can hold a happy thought -reminds me of Peter Pam – I was not suggesting you or anyone else to be negative. Perhaps what I wrote wasn’t very clear.

Rog
Rog

You’re an Oldie but a goodie, Marine.
Never forget that, sir.
No matter how many drugs they do or don’t give ya.
Please let me know if I can ever try to get all y’all a scrip for medical mj. Might do some o y’all a world o good.
Love,
-Rog

The Rog
The Rog

I’m sorry to hear that, Nite.
If there’s ever anything I can do to try to get them to give it back,
please let me know. I did that for one guy in GA, put up a billboard n everything
for him. It worked, and he’s one guy they never short…
I’m willing to go to the wall for any vet with sense enough to ask for help.
I’ll go as far as I can go, with severely limited resources myself at the moment.
But that’s about to change here shortly, I have Faith, brother.
I wish y’all did, too.
Love ya,
-The Rog

NiteWish
NiteWish

Rog, how sweet this sister loves you too. I’ve overcome the habit of taking a pill. MMJ replaces the Tylonal#3 that worked rather well for me, along with the retraining the Brain games I can play by myself. I don’t want their pills anymore & if I get desperate enough, well theres the street supply.

NiteWish
NiteWish

I euthanized my MaineCoon Saturday, my thoughts are muddled. Had him in the hospital for 4dys & he had awful surgery for urethral obstruction, he was bad when they sent him home & he only got worse so back to the hospital & his blood was toxic. I had expectations they were going to fix him – didn’t happen- he was given the drug [buprenex] 30x more powerful than morphine during his stay which tells me how painful the procedure he had was & the vet bill just adds injury.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

How many handles do you have?

Rog
Rog

Oooooh, you can call me Ray, and you can call me RayJay…
😜😝🤣

Rog
Rog

Roger, Roger…
Over, Over…
What’s my Vector, Victor…
You’ve got Clearance, Clarence…

Just don’t call me Shirley…

91Veteran
91Veteran

Nitewish, I agree positive thoughts are helpful, but far too often during my day I run into fucking nitwits that send me from zero to seriously pissed off in about 2 seconds that drown out all positive thoughts.

Unless throat-punching some bureaucrat is considered a positive thought.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Nitewish, I went through a similar experience with a horse. When blood is cut off to certain areas of an animals body for some reason, toxins build up. The question is, how much toxin and at what level will be lethal? All of it depends on how quickly blood flow can be restored.

It took about 3 years for my daughter to stop crying over memories after that horse died.

Rog, stick around. Whether you are tuned or not, I always thought you had unique perspectives on things.

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE,@Crazy elf,@namnibor: VA new policy? Only positive thoughts?

Fee fi fo fummmm?
~~~~Gurgle~~~~

Later Gators -!¡¡!-

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

You know I was thinking so positive and POW this story poped into my head…….John Sopko’s team of investigators has uncovered all kinds of wasteful spending in Afghanistan through its work as a U.S. government watchdog. Now the group has uncovered a $43 million gas station, which Sopko calls “gratuitous and extreme”—and possibly criminal….See roger/doyle pyle …shit… piles of it…..Being positive with a bunch of crooks will leave you like the emperor with no clothes, and you won’t know it unless someone point’s it out..[THE KID SAY’S SHOUTING OUT FROM THE CROWD]…LATTER GUY’S

Horace
Horace

CRAP did any of you really belive it would change,,, I GOD would give me back me from PTSD,, I would and can solve it all,,, this shit would end,, sorry God for the swear but it won’t end until you let me,,,, Horace

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I just ran across this utube video a few minutes ago. Thought I’d share it with y’all.
It’s from a “Martin Brodel”!
It looks like he’s reading the “Daily Caller/Luke Rosiak” article from 07/09/2017.
(It’s 6:35 minutes long)
Titled:
“Your Fired! Trump’s VA Terminates 500, Suspends 200 For Misconduct”

As he’s reading the article, notice how his attitude changed when he gets to the parts where it’s about what McDonald said!
Yet, he’s still pleasantly pleased by what Shulkin is doing!
The comments section, below the video, is full of “anti” and “pro” VA comments! Well worth the viewing!

Jo3n

@OLDMARINE, after going through videos and reading for ever, I am quite positive that Office of Special Counsel is a stopping place for the thieves at the VA, and other wonderful government creations. We have no idea what the truth is, just the same old crap we hear all the time. How many were hired back? Within a month? 6months, one year? Bullshit.

James Clement
James Clement
Good Article, Ben. “Some senior leaders within VA are highlighting (through backchannels) that recent termination numbers are likely a publicity stunt”. Hmmm. Makes me wonder why they are not speaking out PUBLICLY about it, I can understand that they may be fearful they may lose their jobs – – – then not be able to make the changes they want to make in future years. However, for as long as the current situation with the VA/AFGE has been going on – – – those “senior leaders” show NOTHING but COWARDICE . . . It is high time for some real… Read more »
Jamie Stutts
Jamie Stutts
I’m a USMC veteran myself…a disabled veteran, if I might add. I’ve also been a VBA employee for a little over 2 years now. I just read your list of how to fix the VA…and number 7 got under my skin a bit. As a VBA employee there are certain timeframes that we have to follow according to the Code of Federal Regulations. You say that any claim not decided in 90 days automatically goes in favor of the veteran? When we do any type of correspondence needing follow-up from the veteran we have to give a timeframe…usually either 30… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Jamie Stutts…..So how long does it take after turning a appeal in to get a acknowledgement letter that you got it

Lem
Lem
Jamie, this is being used to cause the veteran problems. I have a number on PTSD. Obviously going over these again is a traumatic problem. And why? It is all in the record. I received a diagnosis in 1985 by an examining physician that was over ruled by the Chief of Psychiatry stating there was no evidence of numbing. Obviously he did not refer to the progress notes where numerous entries of “numbing” were made and neither did the adjudicator. 32 years later this is on remand by the BVA and I have to go through these events again? Just… Read more »
Jamie
Jamie
OLDMARINE…it should only take about a week…maybe a week and a half to get an acknowledgement letter on an appeal. Once the claim comes in from the scanning vendor it gets checked over by a Claims Assistant (I was one for a year and a half) who sends out the acknowledgement letter. That should happen within 3-5 days of it getting to the CA’s queue. LEM…I wholeheartedly agree. What you’re talking about, with issues like PTSD. It’s way too hard for the VA Drs. to understand what a veteran goes through every time we have to open up that can… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

WELL It’s been over a month and nothing. That’s why I’m asking

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Jamie…look me up I would appreciate it…I can’t get anyone else to give me a answer Thomas Suhadolnik

Lem
Lem
Decision dated May 5. I’m still waiting for the award letter and check on my TDIU awarded from July 9, 2009, the date I submitted my claim from the VA’s TBI letter suggesting the claim because of my record and the TBI bill signed by President Obama or Bush. My first claim of TDIU was in 1987. Last full time job I held ended in October of 1985. The decision back to that date is on remand for development. I still believe my primary problem is the TBI. That without it I would be able to adjust to the PTSD.… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Lem….At least your wife stuck around, your lucky….I have been through 2 …And it ain’t happening again LOL

Horace
Horace
and that not the worst as you have said,,, That is the way I had to live and right up today,,, handouts,,,parents and the success of my Grandparents,, though I made it through colledge with a Architect degree,,, and straight As I had troubled every day getting through it ,,,, and after and kept getting worst through the years and all the different ways to accomadate this shit PTSD Till one day on a roof shingleling a house,,, it all came to a stop,,, I could not push it no longer on bit further,,,, and that was the last day… Read more »
Horace
Horace

So what the hell are you saying work for corruption and your excused of the miss,,,, great words,,, leave or do something about it,,, just like I did ,,, and why today I have nothing left,,,, I fight,,,, Horace

Horace
Horace
OH by the way I stayed in touch I never got all I was spose to comes to over $100,000 yet do to there lying of paper work,,,, it took me over 12 years and 20 years before that they would get off the stupid law that said ,,, NO PTSD UNLESS 1 YOU SERVED WITHA CERTAIN UNIT 2 YOU WERE AT A CERTAIN AREA 3 AND AT A CERTAIN TIME,,, get it,,,,, that stayed though I have papers showing from leaving Viet Naum I had the symtons when I left documented in writing by the doctors who diagnost me… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
Jamie Stutts…I called my VSO this AM and this is what he emailed me so who is bull shiting who.. Dear Mr. Suhadolnik: Thank your for your phone call concerning your appeal. You came into this office on Thursday, June 1, 2017. I filed your appeal via fax the same day. I have the receipt from the VA that it was received at 2:03 p.m. You did not get any kind of acknowledgement because they do not do that. But, they do have it. Based on what I have seen, it will probably be at least six months to a… Read more »
cj
cj
@Jamie Stutts: You sir, get under my damn skin, try this for a change. TBI examiner sides with the veteran, and thorough outside sources, including MRI’s that Veteran has a Service Connected TBI, Then the BVA decided to send the veteran on another c+p, one the veteran did not initiate, with a shrink for so called “depression” related to the Veterans SC TBI. Then the BVA uses that opportunity to declare it is not a TBI but rather a “personallity” disorder, in order to DENY a TBI claim with proven nexus. So ….BVA lying asshole, go fuck yourself proper. Nobody… Read more »
James Clement
James Clement
@Jamie Stutts – – – I am glad that item #7 on my list got under your skin. You do not know me, and I do not know you. Today, my peripheral neuropathy and CTS are giving me hell – – – so I want to be on the computer as little as possible. You need my background to balance against your comment. You will find it here: ”https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwW3GYHN5AtcMTA4ckNHd2xFRW8/view?usp=sharing” Just remove the quotation marks at the ends, and you should have no trouble viewing, then reading it. I grow quite weary of various departments across our Federal Government always citing… Read more »
James Gallegos
Thank you for your service and we need caring people to care for our veterans, for that I thank you. You mentioned that you know of many employees that are not doing their job’s properly. Turn them in or will you be retaliated against. How about this, veterans apply for their deserved disabilities and the VA tell those veterans that their official military records were distorted in a fire and told this over and over ! Telling the veterans they must furnish more evidence by the veterans contacting someone who can whiteness the event. So the va wants the veterans… Read more »
TB
TB

No, you and other VA employees aren’t fighting for nothing. If you did, the VA would’ve shown you the door.

Of the tenured employees (including you with barely two years at the VA), through speaking to them, they are forced to conform or be fired. In other words, even if you don’t whistleblow, your eval is based on you making your points.

No way you can process a claim in full favor to a vet under those constraints. And BTW the “national queue” isn’t a system mandated by the law. The VA came up with that convoluted system.

James Clement
James Clement

@Jamie Stutts – – – I replied to you, but my response is sitting in Big Ben’s Moderation Queue. I have zero doubt that it will be along in a little while . . .

Big Ben is usually pretty good about such things.

Jo3n

@James Clement, keep it up there. Perhaps turn it into a creed. That may be the right word.

James Clement
James Clement
@Jo3n – – – Thank you for your support. I share all my comments, along with Ben’s articles on Google+. I do not use Facebook – – – but may return to it specifically for this purpose in the future. I do what I can to spread the word. I will never give up fighting both to get my earned benefits, and to get my story out to the public. My biggest problem is that i am one financially poor veteran, while they enjoy tons of money and huge staffs. I refuse to let that stop me though. If I… Read more »
James Gallegos
When your right your right and should never give up. When your wrong your wrong and you would stop. That’s the way it should be, the VA does not understand this. The veterans are always wrong and the VA is always right. ! Even if they are wrong. It’s really not that hard to admit a wrong and apologize. The VA is afraid to admit when they are wrong and will go to hell and back sticking to their lies. You can have absolute proof of wrongdoing and they will ignore it, don’t want to look 👎. Some one has… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

“I am not, and I will not. Both for myself, and my fellow veterans who have been so wronged by this nation after doing so right by it.”

Exactly the reason why I continue JC.

James Gallegos

Here hear and thanks someone has to speak up.

Jo3n

@James Clement, hope you are following up on the sites others, like OLDMARINE and SeymoreKlearly, and Cj, Namnibor, Crazy elf, and so many others. Good luck on the journey.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Well here’s my humor for the day Roger/Doyle…You might learn what your eating

Bioengineered Nano Foods; Soylent Green on Steroids – YouTube
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fFSRDOvd7Q&t=284s”

Rog
Rog

Soylent Green was people…
THIS is microrobotics, ain’t it?
Scary, to say the least.
Ok, you’ve succeeded in destroying my sense of humor for today.
Hasta manana, brothers

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Roger Taylor you certainly have pissed a few of us real Veterans off today. Your playing name games certainly tells us all that you want to be deceptive in your approach to post on Ben’s site also.

Have you no respect for Ben or all of the Veterans who come to this site?

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

To quote your About Me Page.

“About me
Private veterans’ benefits attorney, serving U.S. servicemembers, veterans and their families.
VA-accredited to prepare and prosecute veterans’ claims before ALL Regional Offices of the U.S. Department of Veterans’ Affairs and the Board of Veterans’ Appeals in D.C since 2011.
Admitted to practice before the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans’ Claims in D.C. since 2016.
Looking forward to helping you get your hard-earned, rightful veterans’ benefits.”

Yet you are on this page basically playing games and trolling Veterans.

James Clement
James Clement

@Seymore Klearly – – – If this Roger Taylor Troll REALLY is a licensed Veterans Attorney, he would be one for wise veterans to steer clear of. If he cannot be honest and forthright in his conduct on this blog – – – JUST imagine how VETERANS would be treated if THEY were his CLIENTS . . .

NOT a GUY I would EVER consider hiring . . .

Lem
Lem

And so it goes on.

Jo3n

And it’s quiet.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Media Ignores Virginia Gov. McAuliffe’s Role in Green Car Scandal that Fleeced Taxpayers out of Millions – Judicial Watch………CROOKS AT WORK

“http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/07/media-ignores-virginia-gov-mcauliffes-role-green-car-scandal-fleeced-taxpayers-millions”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Great Read.

James Clement
James Clement

@OLDMARINE – – – “. But the escalating standoff in Mississippi raises the likelihood that the business deal McAuliffe brokered could be headed toward a bitter end in court. Ending his four-year term as governor with a higher national profile and record as an exuberant pitchman for Virginia, GreenTech’s unraveling could dog McAuliffe amid speculation about a 2020 presidential bid.”

Let us all hope it dogs this corrupt SOB the rest of his life.

#CORRUPTMCAULIFFEENOTMYPOTUSEVER

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Have y’all noticed it’s only “the right leaning news outlets” reporting anything about this
“-somewhat- massive firing at VA”!
Here’s another site out today, 10 July 2017, spouting how President Trump is firing VA employees.
From:
“Clash Daily with Doug Giles”
Titled:
“Trump Dumps 500+ Workers From Agency He Slammed Last Year”

It’s got “846 shares” and comments praising “Shithead Shulkin” and POTUS for getting rid of a bunch of worthless asswipes!

I actually got to comment on it. Then returned a few hours later to see my comment gone! Censorship at Its finest!
I guess the readers didn’t like what I said, lol!
Oh well fuck em!

James Gallegos

Funny ! We are use to being ignored. At least u tried.

Lem
Lem

Yes, I noticed, Crazy. But then where do you expect most “fake news” to show up. The rest haven’t touched it because it is a bogus claim.

Or did you read Ben’s article?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Lem, yes I did read Ben’s article. Haven’t you read my previous comments? I’m on the same page as the rest of y’all.
If you can’t tell, I was being sarcastic!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Flem,

Are you calling the VA purveyors of fake news?

“https://www.va.gov/accountability/”

Or are you calling Military Times fake new?

““VA to make public all employee firings”
By: Leo Shane III, July 7, 2017 10:28 CST
Military Times

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