VA To Prematurely Close Thousands Of Healthcare Applications, Again

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One well-known whistleblower just alerted the press that VA is likely taking steps to prematurely close incomplete applications, again.

Scott Davis, a public affairs officer in Atlanta, says the agency is readying to close tens of thousands of incomplete healthcare applications despite promises a year ago to keep those applications open until IG investigates how the agency completes such applications.

In a letter to Secretary David Shulkin, Davis wrote:

It is my duty as the Public Affairs Officer and Content Manager for VHA Member Services to inform your office that Notification of Closed Application letters have been created by VHA to send to the nearly 500,000 Veterans who were part of the failed Pending Letter notification campaign that resulted in over 200,000 letters not being mailed to Veterans and/ or returned by the Post Office.

VA denied the allegations made by Davis in a statement.

“VA has closed no legacy pending applications within the Veterans Health Administration enrollment system due to the ongoing Inspector General review,” VA spokesman Curt Cashour said in a statement to the Washington Examiner. “Also, VA will close no legacy pending applications until we have reasonable assurance that all applications have been fully researched and resolved. Even then, VA will notify all veterans at least 30 days before closing an incomplete enrollment application and will remind them to complete their application and instruct them how to apply for enrollment in VA health care in the future.”

According to Washington Examiner:

Davis’s letter reflects a longstanding worry that the VA was mishandling applications. In March 2016, during the Obama administration, the VA started mailing nearly half a million letters to veterans asking for more information about their application. But it soon became clear within the VA that nearly half of these — almost 230,000 letters — never reached the intended veteran, due to bad addresses, software, and other problems.

At the end of 2016, a month before President Trump took office, the VA realized that most of the letters that went out were asking the wrong question. They either said the veteran needed to provide means testing information when it meant to ask for military information, or vice versa.

Further, audio leaked out in April in which a senior VA employee could be heard saying in 2016 that he was instructed not to help hospitals as they try to assist veterans seeking healthcare at the VA.

In light of those problems, the VA said this year it would wait for a final report about the VA’s mailing services from its Office of Inspector General before taking any next steps. Shulkin himself said nothing would happen until the OIG report is out, in a letter to House Veterans’ Affairs Committee Chairman Phil Roe, R-Tenn.

“Once their review is complete, we will be able to determine if new letters are needed,” he wrote then. Some who have followed the issue said there are no signs the VA is about to close out the veterans’ applications, because the final report is not out yet.

But an early draft of the report has been circulating that indicates the VA still has many problems to fix in the areas of application processing. Among other things, it said the VA still lacks standards and oversight when it comes to followup with veterans, and that the VA is improperly shifting the burden to veterans to make sure their applications are correct.

“Ineffective governance of the health care enrollment program resulted in activities that were not veteran-centric and did not provide sufficient service to those seeking access to health care,” the draft OIG “statement of findings” said. 

Davis says VA’s longstanding failures in providing notice to veterans is a sufficient reason why the agency should not be allowed to close out these claims:

Based on the findings in the OIG report it is highly unlikely that the VA medical center staff could have adequately reviewed 500,000 pending applications … because they did not have standard policies or procedures, adequate training nor resources in place to audit and/or review 500,000 applications in addition to their enrollment workload during this period.

Further, in the letter, Davis called on Shulkin to step it up. Think Shulkin will listen?

Source: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/whistleblower-warns-va-is-taking-steps-to-close-thousands-of-veterans-healthcare-applications/article/2631050

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namnibor
namnibor

“[…Further, in the letter, Davis called on Shulkin to step it up. Think Shulkin will listen?]”

How can Shulkin hear anything over the VA Circle Jerk Theme Music? (same soundtrack for VA OIG Glass Conference Room Glass Splatter Party)

They will only step-up the cadence of their left/right/left/rights of their hand’s upwards and downward strokes)

cj
cj

Kinda like steelers wheel “stuck in the middle with you” only one beat off.

Tom
Tom

Damn I needed a great laugh today, thank you for this namnibor!!!!

Fukof
Fukof

Sad but my conclusion is I don’t care. I hope they kill each other on the VA rally. Sad police had to die in copter crash. I Or no one owes you nothing blackie. Lives already given even white lives you fucken ignorant fucks. Crime fucken excelled bitches. Ugly fucken whores i hate you now gave my all to connect you are trash causing it. Hope you croak

Fukof
Fukof

Fuck off mondays. You never get your way anymore. Trash. Whining again at charlitsville VA. What the fuck did you go there for to be maytter or shit starter

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey Ben,

How about you delete this racist’s trash talk?

Windguy
Windguy

Oh the rich folk hate the poor folk
and the poor folk hate the rich folk
all of my folks hate all of your folks
and everybody hates the Jews

Be – cause – it’s
Naaational Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood week
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are dancing cheek to cheek
It’s fun to crucify
those people you despise
Just don’t let them in your pool.

Oh the white folks hate the black folks
and the black folks hate the white folks
All of my folks hate all of your folks
And everybody hates Tom Cruise

Be cause it’s
Naaational Brotherhood Week…

You get idea cracker boy. Oh – you should not mention ignorance with your spelling. Charlitsville What a maroon.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

This comes down to;
Does anyone actually believe VA spokespersons, or Scott Davis?
Hmmmmm, I for one, believe in the “WhistleBlower”! Because, the VA is known as the “Most corrupt government agency!” And its union, the “Most corrupt union in American!”
That’s my opinion and answer this Friday morning!

Damn, today is Friday. What will VA “dump on veterans today?”

namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf- You are spot-on. VA Spokeshack or VA Whistleblower? Which is more likely than not to be tell the truth most of the time?

However, do not be surprised if in the very near future, the VA further compromises the Whistleblower Program by using it as an additional lifejacket buoy when then hammer finally comes down on the AFGE.
Why do I say this?
Because I predict these assholes will immediately turn rabid and throw their coworkers under the bus in order to save their own hides in large numbers by bastardizing the very VA Whistleblower Program, infecting it, and effectively neutering it. Wait for it…

Lem
Lem

There is a deceptive technique that goes with this. If the Veteran has moved the VARO sends the letters to the previous address. This has happened to me several times in my moves with my VA claim. Letters were sometimes sent to addresses that had been out of date by 2 or more moves in order to be past the one year the Post Office would forward the letter.

This is going to be one of the deceptions outlined and proven in my Tort suit.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Not only that, Lem. How many of y’all have had pertinent information either removed or changed in your files, without your knowledge or permission?
My wife has caught VA employees changing our address and marriage status numerous times, (over a 3 year period). IF she hadn’t kept on them, who knows how much information I wouldn’t have received!

Lem
Lem

Also experienced that petty vindictive act. Removing your dependent and mailing notifications to old addresses. Then leaving you with no income while collecting for “overpayments.” All part of the deceptive acts that are taken if you get on the shit list.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Here’s two articles out today, that might make y’all go “Hmmmmmm!”
1.)
From: “Military.com/Daily News”
Dated: 10 August 2017
Titled;
“Feds Say Pharmacist Swindled Tricare, Bought The Rock’s Old Mansion!”

via: “Miami Herald” | by Jay Weaver

He swindled $37 million, lived like a king, and bought The wrestling giant’s old mansion!

2.)
From:
“The Military Advantage Blog”
Titled;
“Senator’s Face Fight to Increase TRICARE Fees”

By Tom Philpott August 10, 2017

A must read of both articles!

NiteWish
NiteWish

I agree with namnibor “Wait for it….”

NiteWish
NiteWish

This weekends VA Newsletter: VA staffing new White House VA Hotline Principally with Veterans
Theres the trick word in the headline: Principally = Mainly, Chiefly, Mostly, Primarily, Largely, how long before the hotline is nothing but AFGE Union Members & of no use to Veterans Complaining.
The phone line # 855-948-2311 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday. The newsletter didn’t even bother to give the phone #, I looked it up. “https://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=2940”

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Health- Nutritional Ingredients Product Research Resource- “http://www.nutraingredients.com/”

Dennis
Dennis

…and history tells us that not one single individual currently employed at VA gives a shit about it. They never did.

TruBlue
TruBlue

That is patently untrue. Lots of employees care, but are told by upper management to do this, not that. Many are veterans, or have family connections to veterans, and are doing the best they can. Put the blame where it belongs, upper mis-management

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

In light of those problems, the VA said this year it would wait for a final report about the VA’s mailing services from its Office of Inspector General before taking any next steps. Shulkin himself said nothing would happen until the OIG report is out, in a letter to House Veterans’ Affairs Committee Chairman Phil Roe, R-Tenn.

When the OIG report comes out, nothing will be done about it, And the band plays on, Same band different tune…LOL…

cj
cj

Wanna bet VA employees never get their ice cream party notices sent to the wrong address? Or hungry hungry hippo invites? Same band different tune still one beat off.

namnibor
namnibor

**the following is a bait test for engorged purple team members, only a test** Hide in a hallway broom or utility closet to avoid the ensuing stampede for your safety:

Puffer Fish Ice Cream. Get your Puffer Fish Ice Cream!! Free Donuts with Puffer Fish Ice Cream!

Lem
Lem

Does that come with a thoroughly crushed fish liver? Would be my finale treat.

Windguy
Windguy

Everything they do from a policy standpoint says that the country does not want to provide what was promised to its veterans. Once again, our bought and paid-for politicians will do anything to make sure that America’s only true single payer health program is a failure. Nice folks.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Wingflaper heres one for u….”http://myeclinik.com/improved-u-s-medicare-for-all-is-the-solution”

Windguy
Windguy

Thanks Old. I get it. I will always be a single payer advocate. My dream crumbles into dusty shit rather quickly upon contemplating implementation. We’re too corrupt. There isn’t a single element of Medicare that hasn’t been stained by niche lobbying. Everybody has a carve-out that allows them to steal from the national treasure. Crooked doctors, crooked Pig Pharma, crooked hospitals, crooked unions, and at the top of the steaming pile – crooked leadership in Washington. We as a nation need to overcome that pure bullshit “beacon on a hill” thing and admit we’re wallowing in a stew of institutionalized corruption. We have become the Soviet Union with better tobacco.

We’re fucked.

Lem
Lem

Not the Canadian way but an Accountable Care Organization way properly done. Not the VA experiment of “Choice” with two contractors listed in the top 10 in billions of dollars worth of government contracts. No competition for cost reduction there. Only an obvious potential for collusion and price fixing.

namnibor
namnibor

@Windguy- Only thing rivaling the vile nature of Russian tobacco is any Canadian tobacco came pretty damn close. No longer a smoker but you know how you can associate strong memories with odors? Well, that’s one of them.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Don’t y’all remember way back when that military “recruiter” told LOTS of lies to get your “John Hancock” on the dotted line?
Doesn’t it sound familiar from the Veterans Administration? Promise after promise is broken!
What makes it different is, in my opinion, y’all don’t have to go to a foreign country to be murdered! You can be murdered right here in the “good old U.S. of A.”, by the Department of Veterans Affairs!

Windguy
Windguy

Yaaa, I remember. I tried to hide from the draft by enlisting. Four year hitch in the ASA. But hey – I was promised a full year at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, Ca, then off to Germany to listen to Russkies. I got hosed and went to fucking Morse friggin code school in Ayer, Mass, but surely I was still promised I’d go to Germany. I finished first in my AIT classes and got orders for ………. Phu Fucking Bai.
“Entschuldigung, aber wo ist Phu Bai, ist das in Bayern?”… When I got home the same recruiter was still there. I never said a word to him. But, I was on his sidewalk at 0600 when he went out to run. I’d stare at him through his office window. I popped out of the woods and walked across the eight green and kept going at a slow pace. I’d follow him on my Beemer through side streets – never too close. I was in the stands at a little league game when he arrived, and slowly walked away in front of him before the game started. Then he’d start yelling at me whenever I’d ghost in. He looked the fool. I never said a word. My last performance was when I popped into his face in the grocery store aisle. He started barking. I paid for my can of soup, all the while he’s screaming at me. I gave a nod to the store manager (who I worked for as a teenager) who called the cops – on him. My only words – “I have no idea what he’s talking about officer”.
They asked me if I wanted to file a restraining order. Awesome fun. He transferred out shortly thereafter.

cj
cj

My opinion only: The VA, a government agency, just like SS another government agency, and the house post office, yet another government agency, all three share one thing in common, they are funded by tax payers money, and also pilfered by lawmakers as their own personal piggy bank. It has already been proven back in 72, that the VA was engaged in fraud. They would deny your claim, take your clam number and assign a fictitious name to it and open a bank account under that name, and steal the denied veterans compensation check, to the tune of 500 million per month per VAMC that engaged in this practice. Back then Senator John McCain knew all about this, and a few years ago, Senator Dick Durbin also has had the original court documents, and chose to do jack shit about it. Why? well it has also been proven that some of that ill gotten money has found it’s way into lawmaker re election campaign funds. Once you realize they are all in on the corruption you begin to see just how bad your being lied to and fucked over. Once again, we would like to ” fuck you for your service” If you ain’t union you ain’t shit.

Welcome to the America Nunya Warriorrrrrrrrrr!!!
Where VA goings on is nunya business

This years competition is fierce
We have hungry hungry hippo on ice
Extreme Ice cream eating
Name that whack a mole
Deny deny waterslide
One potato two potato morphine/oxy popping barn dance competition
you don’t want to miss the flaming ladder of lies
This years favorite will be the disruptive behavior room, no doors and you only get a chair and a saw to escape in under 30 seconds
Another viewer favorite each year will be the parking lot scavenger hunt.
So exited about this years lineup. Be there or be square.

With live performances by:
Shill-kin and the Shitheads, yes you guessed it a “PUNK” band
The VAOIG Fake Investigators, yes you guessed it again a “TWO STEP” band
The VA PR ettes , man your all batting 1000, yes you guessed it again, a “WALTZ” band.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, good opinions and i agree it is an accurate description.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – – – Hey Brother, where you stay? Long time no hear. Glad you’re back. How’s your meds working for you and pain levels. I hate to see fall, then winter smacking at me. – – – Nutter.

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, doing better. i was sick for a couple of weeks. i have been trying to keep up with articles and comments. i haven’t been posting much. thanks for the welcome back. how are you doing? I hope your doing better.

Alex
Alex

Applications for what?

NiteWish
NiteWish

Alex, the health care enrollment program applications

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

On RT- “Delay, Deny, Hope You Die”- Burn Pits- August 14 and 15 – – – Nutter.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

“Improve treatment for Veterans as a VA pharmacist”…No thanks I’d rather be a pastor, Then all I would have to learn this one line….YOU MUST GO HIGHER THEN ME MY SON….Can I have my job now VA….LOL

My dog JACK just told me don’t forget about the no swearing, that way you can avoid all contact with the vet, He told me that would make my job easier…Thanks JACK

Leatherneck
Leatherneck

How many Veterans believe that Veteran Medical Centers plus the Veteran Affairs Admistation will get better if we Declare War on Korea.

Onebodypartatatime
Onebodypartatatime

Yup shamefully so. They whining already I don’t want to die, I really appreciate the military.

Onebodypartatatime
Onebodypartatatime

K

Jo3n
Jo3n

@Leatherneck, what does Shulkin say? Whatever Shithead says, it’s the opposite.

Alex
Alex

Applications for what?

Onebodypartatatime
Onebodypartatatime

Ice cream

namnibor
namnibor

If they eat enough ice cream they will no longer fit through the VA Whack-A-Mole holes. The further engorged purple teams would essentially become “donut holes”.

namnibor
namnibor

Update: Not only would they become “donut holes” but also purple jelly-filled donuts.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Naturally Healing All Cancers With Hemp Oil

“https://tabublog.com/natural-cures-for-cancer”
With plenty of Scientific Studies from the National Institute of Health

Wyldechylde
Wyldechylde

Cannabis has been and is being researched for it’s cancer curing abilities. From what I’ve read it attacks cancer 2 ways.

1. It robs cancerous cells of their energy. No energy no ability to divide. No tumor.

2. It tell tumorous cells to either produce calcium or import calcium. Which is deadly to the cell. I’m not sure if the “whole plant” methodology is the way to go or just straight CBD. I suspect more research will need to be done.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Wyldechylde….This might be a reason why your monthly allotment got cut back…..
Why Is the World Legalizing Marijuana All at the Same Time? – YouTube
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOO2O25wIjU”

Wyldechylde
Wyldechylde

nah I know why it got cut back. The question is do I treat it like personal injury and go after the responsible party for non-economic damages IE Triggering my PTSD.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Wyldechylde- Most likely got your meds cut back due to: (1.) VA is cutting back, putting those on SSRI’s, or (2.) refills were ordered at a later date, and PCP determined that you needed less (no squirreling- saving up a stash). That’s how these A-wipes roll.

Lem
Lem

At least you won’t give a shit about pain or dying.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

LEM …Are you feeling it yet…..Them so called golden years..LOL…Man these rrrrrrrr the days…..LOL

Lem
Lem

Actually I’ve been a great deal less in pain the last 14 years than the 14 years before that. Actually can mow the lawn occasionally.

Max J Tague
Max J Tague

I have a question, I’m a 100% vet now needing a kidney transplant due to the meds given out at the VA. Afew week ago I had an app @ lake nolan the kidney dr? from some place in the “east” said that he could get me some kind of “blue card” and if I filled it out and said what a good job he was doing, that he could get me the testing that I was asking for. I’m on a large Gen Hosp, kidney transplant list and need these test to stay current on their list. has anyone heard of crap like this going on? I feel like turning this jerk in for bribery. Need more information, Please Max Cpl USMC

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

YOU MEAN THE VA WONT TEST YOU??…..I would give you one of mine but I only have one left…And I would run from the DR. blue card ….LOL

namnibor
namnibor

@OLDMARINE–Dr. Blue Card may also have a handy back alley kidney swap shop where one person leaves with one or two less organs and one enters and pays with Blue Card to get a somewhat matching life-saving organ.

Blue Card Special. Sounds very like author Robin Cook type novel such as “Coma”.

Run Like Hell from this monster. Then report his ass.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Run, Forrest, Run!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Max,

It is the first that I have heard of anything like it. Can you post the doctors name so I can look into him a little further?

cj
cj

I hope you find something on this guy Seymore, this sure smells of blackmail, or even something more insidious.

Propblast
Propblast

Arbitrary and capricious actions, deny, delay, the vet is dead. Oh, say, once again, it’s not true…. As a File 319 veteran, (retired records) i can fully attest to the effed up VA, as only that the chitt hole must be the depository for postal service candidate rejects!
Much 2 the chagrin of the VA i found out i was still alive in 2015. I went 2 the VA seeking hearing aids, as i had a claim denied dating to Dec 10, 1974 (upon advice from docs during ets exam) I had a full blown Rehab scholarship approved at MSU, did not follow thru. Claim for 20% for drop zone injury was reduced to 10% in 1977, no comp. Then dropped to zero, of course no exam. Well issues never went away, got worse, filed other claims, never heard squat. Knew that 2 concussions in army not good (convoy wreck Ranger school 1972/ drop zone fall 1973) Found eyewitness to the jump accident, confirm my being out cold, ride to Womack in Medivac chopper. Got doc confirmation and 2 shrinks agree that having my bell rung is direct result for TBI.
Med records contain medical records for another vet, what the hell… Dang thing is, it is his hearing test.
It is my understanding the VA is also purging the so called” inactive” files, retired records, file 319.
Of course i still do not have hearing aids, i have not been able to get an ID card, and my rating is at 40%, (TBI/tinnitus) but the original claim is just “a touch of arthritis”
The VA, would not go there for my health care….

Lem
Lem

If you would like to get paid your TBI 40% from 8/2/1988 to the date you received in 2009 please contact me at “[email protected]” I’m going to try to have a class action re-opened that was file then for “organic brain syndromes” including TBI and cerebral malaria. Also would like someone to be a class representative who had the malaria that caused a fever over 104, severe cramps, and a severe headache. Also possibly some period of amnesia though the medics probably didn’t record it in the in patient records. Please? Anyone know someone?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

<<>> brought to you by Nutter. Good reads.

What Your Surgeon Needs to Tell You- “https://wire.ama-assn.org/practice-management/informed-consent-ruling-may-have-far-reaching-negative-impact”

Opioid Abuse and Misuse- “https://wire.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/opioid-abuse-and-misuse”

Peeling Back the Cost of Drugs- “https://truthinrx.org/”

Keeping the Wealthy Healthy, and Everyone Else Waiting- “http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/41500-keeping-the-wealthy-healthy-and-everyone-else-waiting”

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Value of US Weapons Goes Far Beyond Battlefield, Ukrainian Troops Say

Nolan Peterson /August 04, 2017

At the front-line village of Krymske in 2015, just outside the separatist stronghold of Luhansk, Ukrainian troops renamed a street from that of a Soviet luminary to “John McCain Street.”

When Canadian journalist and filmmaker Christian Borys asked the soldiers when they were going to name a street after then-President Barack Obama, the soldiers replied, “When he sends us weapons.”

John war McCain the ARMS dealer…..

namnibor
namnibor

Breaking News: President Trump and VA Sec. Shulkin on national news broadcast with all the VSO Piggies in a row, and I think even AFGE little Cox, on VA funding more leases and ALL the vast improvements all those piggy Vets VSO’s he refers behind him, that this Bill he is signing will make it easier to fire and really fire bad employees…but this was a smokescreen of news for the awful rally violence in Charlotte, VA today and state of emergency currently….VA Shulkin and the Piggy VSO’s were used as marionettes on the MSN smokescreen…and the procession of signing this VA Bill/Law went on as if the awful shit going down in Charlotte was not even happening…very fucking surreal.

The VSO Piggies all oinked and grinned, and Pres. Trump even had to ask VA Sec. Shulkin to come-up with some Democrat Senators that were onboard with this Bill for Veterans…which really is more funding for VA and contractors and the piggies grinned on.

Smokescreen and VA Ass Splat Swamp Fart. There you go. The critters are officially hibernating in the muck.
Rant Out. (surreal)

namnibor
namnibor

What I’ve noticed as a pattern over years is anytime the VA has something that’s in the limelight, a new law/funding bill pending approval, or some massive scandal…then there will be some national event that takes place…or…a Kardashian gets a tick on it’s ass, whichever may come first…but my point is the VA issues are used as a diversionary device or deflector over and over or the polar opposite, but usually the former.

I did not want to sound uncaring about injuries/death, violence in Charlotte…it’s just now, it’s cemented in place…that *whatever* Trump and Shulkin rope and pony show signing was, is now entirely forgotten by American’s flea brained attention spans.
This was reflected after the POTUS and Shulkin and Piggies all signed the Bill…and the reporters…not ONE asked a SINGLE question re: the VA and Veterans….it went IMMEDIATELY to all about thugs in Charlotte…not a peep 2 minutes later about ….the VA….Veterans….Choice….firing….employees…more $$$$….???? ??? *crickets*~~~

In a mood.

namnibor
namnibor

Charlottesville.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

“The illusion of freedom will continue for as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will take down the scenery, move the tables and chairs out of the way, then they will pull back the curtains and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” – Frank Zappa

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

There’s a noticeable onslaught of headline grabbing events being foisted on our faces, and they are effectively diverting our attention to what really will hit us all domestically as the year is ending, i.e. another Western financial meltdown.

After RussiaGate, there’s still the North Korean threat of a thermonuclear exchange. But before that can die down, too, a localized white nationalism vs. anti-white supremacism is hereby unleashed, which is obviously on the same level as Obama’s Ferguson racial divide.

Different approaches, same goals:

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: Oldmarine, the NORKS have had nukes since 2013, thanks to Clinton. While Obama was negotiating his great Iran deal, at the very same time the norks were trading nukes to Iran. The fake news said nothing, this latest nork bs is all fake news, started by the Washington compost, with a story that nobody was interested in in 2013, Was no big deal under Obama, of course. Then they release this news like it just happened? and everyone took it hook line and sinker? Funny how every single Republican President is the biggest piece of shit, and needs to be investigated, and all Liberals are the greatest thing since apple pie, all diversion, your right. Oh my God Trump is crazy, did you hear what he said to the Norks? stupid assholes, look up Libtard Truman’s address to the American people, informing us that he just dropped the bomb on Japan, and tell me what wording he used then. Yeah perty much the same, only when President Trump says it it is reckless. Also funny how they released this old story from 2013, to make it look like this happened under President Trumps watch and NOT Obumblers.

“http://www.38north.org/2013/02/albright021313/”
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Ib4wTq0jY”

Wake the fuck up sheeple.

cj
cj

Later Gators -!ii!-

Retired Nurse
Retired Nurse

IN AZ/PHX…Sen.McCain is on a shredding kick..anyone who ever wrote or phoned the ole pirate himself is pure shred…destroyed ALL files on vets, even if only (5) yrs.old & names,dates & case material indicating proof of the crimes of the PHX VA/Hospital….McCain is really cleaning house…for his departure.

namnibor
namnibor

I bet the architectsat the VA each have their dream brand new dedicated to John McCain brand new, coming soon Phoenix, VAMC…and each of them will go with their own plan and wait a few billion over budget to get on same page…a Denver VAMC Black Hole, the Grand Canyon Edition. (Wait for it…)

As in old Monty Python, “I’m not dead yet…”- ‘The Holy Grail’

namnibor
namnibor

architects at

Jo3n
Jo3n

Just isn’t funny anymore. I can actually see John McCain doing the shredding himself. Diminished Capacities.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Oliver Stone – The Untold History of The US – How the US government works [Top Documentary Films]
CTO
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBfAQjaderc”

THE TRIBE HAS SPOKEN

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“OLDMARINE”,
Just watched the Oliver Stone Documentary.
President Trump was wrong. In that, Washington D.C. is NOT a “swamp!” Hell, it isn’t even a “sewer”, as he recently said! It’s worse than either one of those descriptions!
I don’t believe there’s a fitting negative word to describe Washington D.C.!

I also believe everyone should watch this video! It’s just might wake their asses up to the reality of what America has become!

Thanks for putting it on here!

NiteWish
NiteWish

Crazy Elf, OldMarine, I watched it too this a.m. added to my depression today. Stealing Words & changing the meanings to fit their needs. ratbastards.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

When they are exposed and resisted without fear they are the ones that tremble in fear.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I have a solution …..A firing squad..[drain the swamp]…No pump big enough..LOL………

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Here’s a bunch of websites to visit:
Google the following;

“Veterans today and Gordon Duff”

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