Veteran Died Who Lit Self On Fire

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Fire Suicide 3

Benjamin KrauseThe veteran who lit himself on fire outside the Atlantic County CBOC in Northfield, New Jersey has died according to a police statement. Photos of the suicide site show the veteran lit himself on fire 75 feet from the entrance of the VA clinic.

NEAR MEDIA SILENCE ON VETERAN SELF-IMMOLATION

The media has been very quiet about the self-immolation of an unnamed veteran on Saturday who received mental health treatment from the VA clinic. He was taken by helicopter to a hospital but died later that day.

I received these photos from a person familiar with the situation and posted them here to give readers a better idea of what happened since the media has been so tight-lipped.

Why do you think the media is quite about this story given the linkage between VA’s continued failures to provide adequate mental health care to veterans and this self-immolation?

Northfield VA SuicideDespite the near media blackout, veterans have been very vocal about the suicide and about potential links between the suicide and poor mental health care quality due to the VA telehealth system utilized at the facility. That Northfield VA clinic moved to the new location in 2011 and boasted at the time that the move would increase access to care by making use of better technology.

Apparently for the veteran in question, the mental health care quality was insufficient. I will be doing a write-up tomorrow about a linkage between VA telemedicine and the poor quality care at the facility. Be sure to comment on any resources you dig up about the facility to keep readers informed about your research.

What do you think about the VA telehealth system and its ability to adequately treat mental health?

UPDATE: 3/25/16 – About six hours after my post was published, NJ.com came out with more details about the suicide.

While I am disappointed to not see video coverage or explicit comment from Secretary Bob, the following is what was published after this post: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/man-who-set-himself-on-fire-at-northfield-veterans-clinic/article_b7a4a712-f04e-11e5-a39b-3f42b9138511.html

As of today, when you do a Google search for news for Charles R. Ingram III, the coverage is still sparse compared to other scandals. Local and state press ran a couple stories. Washington Times did a piece. However, I have not seen any “5 o’clock” news video of what happened or interviewing VA about it.

If anyone finds video, can you please comment with a link below?

There is more to this story than meets the eye given that Wilmington VAMC leadership, the head facility there in charge of the CBOC in Northfield, are reportedly bragging about the near media blackout and lack of feedback from the press. Very curious.

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namnibor
namnibor

Firstly, this pains me to no end and thoughts/prayers go out to his family and all in his periphery.

Secondly, I realize where in some cases the VA Telemedicine is both convenient and perhaps cost-saving, BUT for Christ’s Sake, when a Veteran is living with PTSD, Depression, Anxiety, or any chronic health issue and is already somewhat preferring to live isolated, the last thing beneficial would be a remote VA Quack issuing Fast Food Medicine, further keeping that Veteran isolated.

I do not know all the specifics with this Veteran since both the VA and News Media is more concerned about reporting on the cool old cars in Cuba with the POTUS…then Brussels, Belgium attacks takes place…not one peep about this Veteran’s Suicide.

Not one.

However, the VA is heartless and clueless enough to at a future date, more than likely USE this event after light has been shown on the cover-up, as an excuse to yet again beg Congress for $$$ for “Veteran Suicide Prevention”…and we have seen this rerun a few times. It always ends-up glum. Here we are yet again!

VA and Psych and Telemedicine would never be my first choice when there’s real Witch Dr.’s from Haiti that could do better.

This is a travesty and should be a HEADLINE, what, three or four days ago.

91Veteran
91Veteran

If you read the updated news at the site I mentioned above, the VA is already talking about adding resources and Tele-mental health hubs.
Why even fuc*ing bother.

namnibor
namnibor

Thanks for that updated info. Been having trouble with this site on and off today and just now see your post.
I guess it would be too much for the VA to even plant a memorial garden or tree where that Veteran took his own life.

I just do not get it. Was on phone with a few Veteran buddies late last night, being an open ear, as who knew things could get worse with the VA?

This Veteran Suicide has not upset a whole lot of Vets, but also equally all upset we do not see this anywhere in the MSN news cycle.

James
James

VA made my son vulnerable

namnibor
namnibor

correction: “…has not ONLY upset…”. Sorry, neuropathy not good these days.

Phil Rewa
Phil Rewa

Exactly, it’s a waste. Give veterans real choice to go anywhere

namnibor
namnibor

I just wanted to add that I also think it’s unforgivable that The Commander In Chief nor the VA Secretary, nor even the VA usual ” VA Spokesperson says…”, NOBODY has even acknowledged this, shedding light on the horrific costs of freedoms, even after the Veteran is back on USA Soil.
Crickets.
Is Public Image much more important to a scandal-weary VA, POTUS, VA Secretary?

Enraged and livid, I am. Also ashamed of my VA and so-called Leaders maintaining radio static.

Michael Coon
Michael Coon

You must have howled then at the disregard the House and Senate have when funding issues for veterans programs come up then!Oh yeah, THEY are Republican led so that’s okay! Presidents and their cabinets cannot make changes or repairs when the funding is controlled by the opposition party!

crazy elf
crazy elf

@Michael Coon
There’s absolutely NO DIFFERENCE between either party!
They aren’t called;
Dumbo”crips”
&
Repubo”bloods”
for a reason!
(And I apologize to the “Bloods & Crips” for using their names in vain!)
The whole of Congress and the Senate, plus that poser of a C.I.C. occupying the White House are the reasons behind all the corruption. Their ALL bought and paid for by lobbyists, pacs, superpacs and a whole slew of criminal entities!
You may disagree. Only what has either party accomplished since they were voted in “BY THE PEOPLE”? Answer, NOT ONE DAMN THING!

I get to wondering why anyone would want to defend anyone in government or its agencies!

Not one person has kept their word on any issue. Which, by the way, got them elected. Why? In my opinion, all they care about is their “self-serving agenda”! That is; to rape the taxpayers of as much as they can!

Do you really believe anyone in Washington D.C. all the way down to your local established government, cares on iota about you or I or anyone?

The sooner ALL the “Sheepies” wake up the better!
Your “Constitutional Republic”, along with your “Constitutional Rights” + the “Bill of Rights”, are slowly being stripped away! We’re already seeing our 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendments being challenged.
Before long, that “piece of paper” will be a thing of the past! Is that what you want?

91Veteran
91Veteran

Actually the updated pressofatlanticcity dot com news article has comments from a county VSO, a statement from the Wilmington VA about being saddened, yahdah yahdah, with nothing more said because it’s an ongoing investigation. There is also a statement from Representative Frank Lobiondo about a pilot program for vets to get community based care, but McDonald saying it will never happen.
As I understand the news, vets go to a CBOC at Northfield where this happened, but they have to go to Wilmington or Philadelphia for other care.
There is also claptrap about vets applying for a waiver to get community care which is infuriating. I have been told by the head of the Patient Advocates at my VA that a vet can go to any ER, as long as the VA is notified within 72 hours. The problem is as many know, the VA refuses to follow the law and pay the bill.
It is disgraceful that Lobiondo doesn’t know any better.
The story ends with more claptrap from David Shulkin about taking new steps to prevent veteran suicide.
The tone of the statements really give the impression they just do not care that this happened.

As for telemedicine and mental health, I would refuse to participate. Not only does it remove any human interaction in such sensitive treatment, but I would be worried about what the shrink on the other end was doing at the time. Are they recording the session for a highlights reel during their holiday parties?
In my opinion, telemedicine should be barred from being used for mental health treatment because the shrink cannot see non-verbal cues from the veteran. An appointment may be very triggering to a veteran, and a shrink would be unable to tell if a veteran was becoming very agitated requiring something further than a video chat.
The VA claims they are getting all kinds of suicide prevention resources, but they push telemedicine simply because of cost. The article says the VA is adding 3 regional Tele-mental health hubs.
As I said before, why not just tell the veteran to go watch a few YouTube videos.
It is also disgraceful that zero media outside the very local news has covered this.

James
James

Their inaction is outrageous !

James
James

Veterans show go to the funeral

Don Avant
Don Avant

RIP Brother…Welcome home…………MOMENT OF SILENCE,,,

T
T

Amen!

Telehealth and those tele-group-discussions etc? They suck and are not worth the costs of computers or specifically trained staff to make it all work, if the connections work at all, and to moderate and censor what is being allowed discussed. Like.. the depleted uranium issues to Agent Orange, how it will affect future generations, to VA failures and mis-treatments not allowed. Neither is trying to give advice to other vets or tell them how to use a TENS unit…not allowed. We are too stupid and told ” NOT to give advice or research information on our own.”

It’s another one of those centrally located and networking that keeps, or supposed to keep, everybody happy, connected, on their topics of choice, for using the same training techniques and same BS propaganda to stay on the same lying pages, lies, and for seemingly being served, pretending to care, but fails many.

Psychiatry today is IMHO a joke, a money making joke of destruction. It’s destroyed many people and vets. Whenever the VA and their sick professionals disagree with civilian doctors and specialist then something is wrong. When the VA staff creates a condescending and abusive situation for vets causing tears to upset, it is not the time to call in the cops to have a vet jailed and abused by cops. All the VA freaks want to do is push their head dope on people, dumb them down to compliance and drooling the corner of their house and they think they’ve done a good job. Just like the dumb down and numb out elders in nursing homes. Which I have seen plenty of times, and it causing more harm than good along with all the side-effects the pill pushers don’t care about. We are all expendable and dollar signs or stats in their minds.

Veterans need to speak up and not be afraid of the file flagging and other subtle threats that fill the VA and used by their minions. But many just turn their heads not willing to be non PC and speak out. They fear offending someone when there are many that NEED and warrants being offended or driven away from the VA. Including veterans whose bread and butter come from the VA and seem to have lost their integrity, honor and morals for a VA position.

Shut down the socialist VA system totally, saving money and grief, then allow us to see civilian MDs of our choice, but would still be a challenge because many in the medical fields over-charge, refuse new patients especially if we have been in the VA, charge “new patient fees” on top of other messes we deal with. Nothing medically concerned today is far from the old practices and concerns of say, twenty years ago. All of it seems like a fast paced, hurry up and wait, conveyor belt, pay first, over-priced fiasco with no end or change in sight.

His insurance? It will be classified as a suicide so insurance won’t pay. That is why so many others are classified as over-doses but are actually suicides to give stats for the drug war and their propaganda money and control game, and swept under the rug like this poor gents story will be, is. If anyone has been deep in volunteer work or ministry they know this is true. But it doesn’t fit in with mainstream propaganda or the media’s/government’s game plans for us all.

It should be, if one veteran is being abused and oppressed then we all should go to bat for them, not just for ourselves or to keep some crummy lying POS job for the government and VA with the ability to get away with murder and mis-treatment of their pet Guinea Pigs, psych subjects and test subjects…us.

James
James

Very nice post thanks

crazy elf
crazy elf

“Telemedicine” is what killed my “Brother”! This past sunday we had a great turnout for his “wake”! About a hundred people showed up to morn his “passing”!
He now is “riding”, with our other brothers, in “Harley Heaven!”
I, along with other “brothers”, will miss him! He and I always “brought up the rear of the pack!” We enjoyed the “wind and freedom of the road!”

On today’s blog by Mr. Krause. This “Navy Veteran” should have never been treated so poorly. Yet, the VA is known for this kind of
“(NON)healthcare”!
Sooner or later, there will be a “RECKONING” against all of the VA employees! I pray it will be sooner!

“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions!”

Here’s two articles out today, 23 March 2016.

1.) from “Military dot com” through the “associated press” | by Mathew Daly
titled;
“VA Suspends Top Official in Relocation Scam”

2.) from: “TownHall dot com” by Paul Greenburg
titled:
“The VA is Still the VA, Only More So”

Both are getting widespread coverage on the internet.
A must read!

Hondo
Hondo

This should ruin your morning coffee……….

When I learned that other evidence was available following the decisions of the Merit Systems Protection Board, I made a commitment to review all of the facts and take any additional accountability actions that I believed to be in the best interest of Veterans and taxpayers. That meant looking through an enormous amount of additional evidence,” said Deputy Secretary Sloan Gibson. “After my review of that evidence, I believe that, within the scope and intent of the law, additional accountability actions were warranted. We have already reinstated Diana Rubens and Kim Graves to their positions as Regional Office Directors and I have been encouraged by their immediate effort to get back to work. Ultimately, that is what these decisions are about: getting back to the work of serving America’s Veterans.”

crazy elf
crazy elf

@Hondo,

Doesn’t Gibson mean
“Fμ€KING American Veterans AND Taxpayers!”

Hondo
Hondo

Notice he says,” Ultimately, getting back to work,” nothing about being held accountable for breaking the law. Being back to work and getting paid…. screw the taxpayers……… fat dumb and happy, the VA way…..

VINCENT CHIRA
VINCENT CHIRA

Plain and Simple! We need a President who has been there and Served! Not sat and Watched from the Sidelines!!!

rlph
rlph

No one cares. It is a veteran….The lack of major news outlets coverage is proof of the lack of concern. The VA will never change. Save yourselves and seek private care . The game of government is rigged by both parties. Go vote and do not vote for anyone already in office.

Andre Akins
Andre Akins

The VA is no help to me ever since I came back from Iraq I been mess up and every time I go in for pain its like they think I’m lying. Give me BS prescriptions that don’t work with the high ass price. OMG don’t let me talk about the nurses. It like they all having a bad bad and treat you like shit.
John Cochran VA in St.Louis

marks
marks

dre you may have to move to another state on the westcoast preferably ive found the VA on the east coast are very crowded and with fxxxck up attitudes cause the nurses and doctors are over worked and over observed just google the best states for vets etc and most are on the westcoast and go see a competent VSO at the state level to get your claim started and if you have to or can see an outside doctor and keep up with your records from the VA and the Private Doctors to have as evidence for your claim….

Dennis
Dennis

Right now the news media is focusing on the presidential race and O’bummers communist Havana trip and doesn’t want to spend their time on veterans issues even of a veteran lighting himself on fire outside a VA clinic. O’bummer is busy lining up part of his TPP trade agreement by going to communist Cuba and getting Castro and them to agree to it so that the corporations can send American manufacturing jobs to Cuba to get cheap labor in that communist country. After all, communist Cuba isn’t but 90 miles away and a hell of a lot closer than communist China and communist Viet-Nam are. O’Bama doesn’t give a damn about some vet lighting himself on fire and killing himself!!

crazy elf
crazy elf

@Dennis
Let’s not forget the other South American Countries he’s going to visit. With the wife and their two brats. Oh, I forgot, his mother-in-law is also tagging along on the taxpayers dime!

namnibor
namnibor

And NEVER forget that POTUS and Family went ahead and went to Canada before Cuba, never mind First Lady Nancy Reagan was still on Open View right at that moment.
Talk about a “disrespecting” POTUS.

At this point I would really be happy with a pet rock as POTUS. That’s a “Change I Can Believe In”. Only -9- months and counting left.

Is it asking too much for a President/Commander In Chief, to acknowledge this Veteran’s horrific suicide and do something about this madness?

Francisco Aguero
Francisco Aguero

Ben we need to be heard! the VA needs to be gutted and redone head to toe, I know you are only one person;there are Vets that keep silent and do not want to do anything because they are currently fine and dont need the VA; then when they have a devastating vet-related issue, they loose their Job,their house,health coverage and then have to depend on the VA…guess what bro…its too late! register to vote, help fellow veterans when they have issues with anyone who wants to take their rights as veterans TAKE OFF YOUR ROSE COLORED GLASSES AND GET OFF YOUR HI-HORSE AND ACT YOU MORON! Next time it will be you, your family your brother your best friend. Our benefits are not welfare! pull that idea from the same duffellbag your head is located. Get Active,get involved,help those who who are down and pull them up!!!!!!

steve
steve

This morning I got off the phone with the VA,,,, They are not going to fill my Medicine of Hydrocodone which I use only for the pain ,,, been on it for over 10 years,,, never did nothing wrong on it,,,, Now they are ordered to give all these subsitutues for it that cause suicide,,, told them to go to hell,,, I’ve been there 3 times don’t need help,,,,,,and your write they pay us a welfare life style,,, after all of us gave up the life of others are having are carriers our dreams all gone Fought a war,,, and I’m still fighting,,,, Can anybody tell me were HOME is thanks,,,,,

James
James

It’s here with the crooks !

James
James

Put them on welfare

James
James

Shut down the VA period

James
James

Taking veterans disabilities away

James
James

Veterans are killing themselves

Dennis Parker
Dennis Parker

These images can without a doubt trigger suicidal ideation and self harm traits. This is a trigger issue for really messed up folks. Think about the man who hasnt slept ffor more than 7 minutes at a time for a few years. Throw in a dose of a wallet that cant get a cheap room at some hotel. That vet might think its as good as anything he has going and if it makes a difference, why not? In this case these images should only be punlished with this in mind.

snow
snow

The medical industry is not for our benefit, it’s for the benefit of industry. One example is a number of neurotransmitters are being ignored in mainstream medicine, and they do not do any testing for a serotonin deficiency before handing out SSRIs like candy to people despite the VA’s and other research saying otherwise for TBI, PTSD and many other conditions.. It is more beneficial for industries to maximize the number of medications they can put us on.

The most critical system in the body is not being taught in medical school. But a few doctors have read the research on it but most have very limited knowledge if any unless they were made aware by another colleague or stumbling on the research. This system is the largest neurotransmitter system in the body, it is called The Endocannabinoid System (ECS). This system is throughout our brain and body in our cells (including immune cells), and tissues just about everywhere…. When we move receptors that make up this system (cannabinoid receptor 1 [CB1] & cannabinoid receptor 2 [CB2] etc..) get excited and when we exercise we excite these receptors even more which then release more endocannabinoids also known as lipid mediators and lipid messengers. Runner’s high is caused by an increase in endocannabinoids in the body. These endocannabinoids are what regulate the entire body including but not limited to regulating temperature, immune response, inflammation, pain, energy balance, healing, stress, reward, cellular regulation, appetite, fear memory, senses and body & brain protection just to name a few… When a person consumes certain substances they increase the amount of endocannabinoids in the body, however some of these substances like alcohol increases and then causes a decrease in endocannabinoids after the fact, causing the body and brain to have a recovering time to bringing the body back to center. Other substances such as cannabis increase the amount of endocannabinoids because THC is a phytocannabinoid (fats), which has the ability to stick to our cannabinoid receptors causing them to be excited. Thus THC increases circulating endocannabinoids. Other phytocannabinoids such as CBD oil increase endocannabinoids in other ways without the same runner’s high.

Yale found that stress and depression causes braincells to die. Numerous other research papers and patents have found that endocannabinoids are neuroprotectants and antioxidants. Also depression has been linked to inflammation. This is why stress can make us forget things because endocannabinoids flood our brain under stress. If we are deficient in endocannabinoids memory can be affected because we need endocannabinoids to encode memories…

So the problem is that TBI, PTSD, wrong foods, repeated stress, etc etc can cause the body to struggle making endocannabinoids on demand or affect the signaling system in the body in one way or another…. If this system is dysregulated then we will have a number of varying issues from migraines, stomach/GI problems, bad stress response, memory problems, healing, bad dreams, age related diseases, brain aging and the list goes on ..

Here are are a few quotes and links

“Recently, an accumulating body of evidence has implicated the endocannabinoid system in the etiology of PTSD, and targets within this system are believed to be suitable for treatment development.“. . .“There is convincing evidence from multiple studies for reduced endocannabinoid availability in PTSD.“. . “Of particular relevance is evidence showing reduced levels of the endocannabinoid anandamide”…

United States Department of Veterans Affairs National Center for Posttraumatic Stress Disorder & two others

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25456347
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“These results suggest that abnormal CB1 [cannabinoid] receptor mediated
anandamide signaling is implicated in the etiology of PTSD”
Veteran Affairs
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3752332/pdf/nihms-469491.pdf
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VA – PTSD/threat processing
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24820537
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“A long­standing literature linking endocannabinoids (ECBs) to stress, fear, and anxiety has led to growing interest in developing novel anxiolytics targeting the ECB system.”
Laboratory of Behavioral and Genomic Neuroscience, National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24325918
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Molecular Mechanisms of Cannabis Signaling in the Brain. (Veteran’s Affairs)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26810000
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DOCUMENTARY – The DSM: Psychiatry’s Deadliest Scam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcuhhJ1BaMk
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“Everything in our body is homeostatically regulated by our Endocannabinoid System.. and yet its not taught in medical school?? There is something a little flawed here…”
– Dr. Bob Melamede
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qkhwaETnjw
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“The Endocannabinoid System (ECS) started revealing itself to researchers in the 1940s and by the late ’60s the basic structure and functionality had been laid out. Today we know the ECS is a comprehensive system of biochemical modulators that maintain homeostasis in all body systems including the central and peripheral nervous systems, all organ systems, somatic tissues, and all metabolic biochemical systems, including the immune system.” – Dennis Hill (Biochemist)
http://www.whale.to/a/human5.html
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… “Studies have revealed that the endocannabinoid system is involved in almost all major immune events” …
Institute of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Israel.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24969296
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Cannabinoid Science Sheds New Light on the Darkness of PTSD
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v23n3/v23n3_40-42.pdf
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Yale – Stress and depression
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15271581
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Could Depression Be Caused By Inflammation In The Brain?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/28/depression-brain-inflamma_n_6555222.html
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“So depression is an inflammatory disease, but where does the inflammation come from?”
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24228900
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Brain Inflammation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23296873
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23069763
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National institutes of Health
“Is lipid signaling through cannabinoid 2 receptors part of a protective system?”
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7U366sVg-U4bzd0M00wQnE3Q1U
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Memory storage and encoding
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Cc5oognvBdWHMtRDE4djA3RkE/view
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Runners High
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22442371
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Altered lipid metabolism in brain injury
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18751914
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Brain Injury & repeated stress breaks Endocannabinoid Signaling
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20720126
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22155492
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25729760
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Dr Ross (Neuroscientist) on Endocannabinoid Deficiency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9VjPD8xL6U
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Dr Ross (Neuroscientist) — Vitamin Weed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R3swGg9iUw
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Gary Wenk, professor of psychology and neuroscience at The Ohio State University, Cannabis and the brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uVXs6CY2ps
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Care and feeding of the endocannabinoid system
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951193/

Rastafari
Rastafari

thank you very much for this information.
bless.

James
James
James
James

.com another outlet for us

glenn678
glenn678

Eternal Rest Grant Unto Him…

firejoe3
firejoe3

I have a perspective about the VA that is different. You see, last year I went in for a “same day” surgery to repair a hiatal hernia. somehow, and they never admitted how, they botched it and I spent an entire month hospitalized. since then I have had 8 ER visits in the latter half of 2015 alone. I lost a good 7 months of my life in the hospital, ER, or lying on my couch in pain, unable to eat, and vomiting most of the day (was a great 37 pound weight loss plan though). Two weeks later my good friend went in for a different same day surgery. They ‘accidentally’ gave her 10 times the normal dose of anesthesia. That’s right TEN TIMES. Put her in the ICU for a week.

My different perspective comes because I spent a couple of weeks doing clinical rotations at the Salt Lake VAMC as a nursing student way back in ’93. What I saw there, on the other side of the coin, shocked me. Nurses way overwhelmed; the normal nurse/patient ratio in a regular hospital was 3 or 4 patients per nurse. At the VA it was 13 per nurse. Care was shoddy, or not given due to being overwhelmed, the doctors were young, arrogant, and wanting the hell out of there as fast as possible. they spent on average 2 minutes with each patient. And yes, I watched as their poor care killed a WWII veteran.

Put it all together, and though my service connected disability gets all my medical care at the VA for free, I have opted to pay the money to get on a private insurance and never go back to the VA again.

“the VA. Where the care is free, and you get exactly what you’ve paid for”

If anyone knows of any group or person that is trying to fight and fix the VA, direct me to them. This shit is ridiculous.

James
James

My payment was being shot

James
James

In the head VA refused treatment

James
James

For forty years

James
James

I posted a news guys on here

James
James
James
James

.com problem with posting

91Veteran
91Veteran

I know what you mean about free care firejoe, but I believe many veterans paid dearly for that “free” care.
The problem is far too many VA employees and politicians don’t understand that.

Joyce
Joyce

Yes, I do. Donald Trump wants to help. He said in the beginning of his campaign that he wants to give our veterans a card and let them go to any doctor of their choice. That is the first time I chose to support him. My late husband was a Vietnam vet who died at 46 yrs of age. The VA was no help in ’94 either. I am voting for Donald Trump for he is the only one who is talking of helping our veterans!

Dan F
Dan F

Another brother who fought too hard to get too little. May he rest in peace. Hopefully, this will change something at the VA – although, I doubt it.

Melvin
Melvin

Telepsychiatry

Lets call it what it is, just a layer of protection and a way for the Psychiatrist to feel safe when prescribing a deadly array of medications to Veterans being used in research. With no help intended for the Veteran.

Also I would like to point out that in this article comment section I count 17 one line comments by the poster James. When you scroll over his name it list “Http://Yahoo/”

In the past he has claimed he can only post one line comments and doesn’t know why. Although this morning he was able to post a multiple line comment Under the March 18th article on Dr. Houlihan.

Personally I believe he is a Troll that is not only disrespecting this website and the other posters here but is also disrespecting all veterans including the one who died in NJ.

His clear intent is to prevent discussion and coherent posting by other posters hear.

Namnibor, Elf, 91Veteran is my count of 17 one line comments by “James” the same that you see at this time?

steve
steve

Just to let you know last year I had enough of lies and wrong and deadly ,,, prescription they gave me,,,, I let a Doctor have it,,I’m sure I was heard through out the clinic,, and of course I received my 3rd certified letter of not cooperating,,,after 25 years ,,, with there so called safe and lies of talk and varies treatments,,, but one comment I made was on using us Vets for
experiment for others,,,, I have seen abusive behavior to total neglect in all practices of medicine ,,,,,all for 46 years now,,,with a steadiness of no improvement but increase of total cover up and worsening conditions, (ah but the building are being totally updated,, to bad not the doctors) and 19 years prior of my Dad who had to use them from being shot in the head in the Korea war ,,,, as said I could easily write a min, of a three book serious on the VA,,, I also Noticed this James

James
James

Shut it down best thing

namnibor
namnibor

@Melvin-

No, James is not a ‘Troll’. If you have read Jame’s plight with the VA and fighting the VA so long because of TBI from being shot in the head. We need to have empathy and compassion for our fellow Veteran’s medical issues that are never obvious from a blog posts, where even technological problems can actually impose anxiety, thus triggers for avoidance of addressing said problem or whatever the scenario.

It’s all good.

Melvin
Melvin

Namnibor

I greatly value your opinion and again I am asking how many single line post has he made in this articles’ comment section? All dated March 23rd.

Now how is it possible that he can post the multiple line dated March 23rd on the article from March 18 regarding Houlihan, but not able to post multiple line comments on this articles blog section?

He is even using the same profile of listing Yahoo for anyone wishing to check his name that was the same profile all the Tomah Trolls used.

He is nothing but a Troll.

Seriously I would appreciated if you would count the number of Single line comments he has listed in this articles comment section and let me know what you count.

Thank You
Melvin

James
James

100 percent disabled veteran

James
James

March 23 was not this James

91Veteran
91Veteran

James, maybe I can help fix your commenting problem. What browser do you use to post comments here? Internet Explorer? Firefox? Chrome?

James
James

Let me ask my wife thanks

James
James

Wife said granddaughter will help

James
James

Thanks

91Veteran
91Veteran

Just let me know either way if you need help. I might be able to suggest a fix.

James
James

Thanks

Matthew Campanile
Matthew Campanile

I have been told by the VBA that my headaches are from not taking multivitamins and my neuropathy is from dring a 24 pack a month. Not to mention my back pain is like a common cold and is not the same cold as one several years prior. Let’s not forget about the information they pick and choose to put into your file and assult you during an exam! Fu#k the VA!!!

James
James

That’s exactly what they do

Jason
Jason

I receive care in Tampa and it is horrible. Went to Iraq twice. I went to the VA ER because I was lost. I didn’t know what I was going to do with my situation as I have many things going on with fighting the VA as far as them taking away my percentage rate. I didn’t know what to do so I was at a Crossroads and I went in for help. I was ignored by the nurse in the emergency room and when I made it known that about how I felt in regards to her treatment they incarcerated me on a Baker Act without NE self harm other harm ideation. I was at a Crossroads I didn’t know what I was doing and I needed help, and I was treated like a criminal. They took away my freedom, they took away my first amendment comma they strip-search me in front of four people and took away all my possessions comma and I went there for help. When a veteran is at their lowest point in life to where they go ask for help which is something we do not do comma it should be taken seriously yet where made the weight were incarcerated against our will we can’t have any say in our care whatsoever otherwise we are non-compliant. I was on benzodiazepines 4 years prescribed by the VA in the army I forgot to refill my prescription I did a little research contraindicated in PTSD. I went through withdrawals no longer on the medication yet I am completely on complying with their regimen of medications and such that now I don’t even have mental health care for me all because I asked for help this is not the way we treat veterans or shouldn’t be. I am so sad that this is what my country is coming too. Rest in peace Brother until the next time

James
James

Disruptive committee is illegal

James
James

They do this to many veterans

Liam shaw
Liam shaw

Well, the fact that Iraq was based on fake made up WMD evidence should have been a red flag to start with, lol. The US supplied Iraq with chemical weapons to fight the Iranians in the 80s, after the Iranians took embassy hostages…..? Erm, how could you possibly justify any action based on WMD against iraq when the US funded them in the 80s during the Iraq v Iran war, where Iran lost more then 1 million people….Lol. Propaganda mostly, as far as theaters of combat goes, and justification for occupation. I mean US was founded on illegal invasion and occupation of natives, so I guess its not surprising average americans think that is normal.

Beirut Vet
Beirut Vet

Take your political opinions elsewhere.
This is about a veteran that SET HIMSELF ON FIRE because of poor treatment by his VA facility but all you wanna talk about is WMDs
You must work for the VA because you obviously don’t care about vets, either.
If you did you’d be actually taking part in the conversation rather than bitching about WMDs

Liam shaw
Liam shaw

Not sure why it has no reply button @Beirut Vet, but I can assure you that its not about veterans mistreatment by the VA. The US spends hundreds of millions a day on foreign wars, so your tears are crocodile tears to say the least, and the amount of people killed overseas far outweighs the few veterans who were responsible for the atrocities. While islamic extremism from the ARAB peninsula and turkey are a problem, bombing muslim countries to give ISIS and arab/sunni power did not seem to work out well. Maybe you should be required to learn geopolitics and foreign policy before given the ability to kill 3rd world towel heads, no?

James
James

All was done by Chaney !

ofthole#34
ofthole#34

God bless you brother: Charles R. Ingram III U.S. Navy CPO, you hurt no more! On behalf of an ungrateful nation (if it was you would still be with us) a sub-par government agency sworn to serve us that excels at letting us die with little or no benefits awarded while they sit under 3/4 of a trillion dollars until its time for more money this coming August, and an uncaring executive,legislative and backlogged judicial not to mention the droves of vets and affected famalies who have have sold out zipped up and the high-horse vets who do and say nothing with their rose colored glasses on;their eyes open only when they have to use the VA. Those who serve this country and have sacrificed for it broken minds injured bodies our hearts heavy but pure our pride steadfast we are not patriots anymore…..we are disciples of honor as no competent man or woman would put themselves through what we all have gone through with the measly treatment we receive by before and after We Vets love you and will remember, you are properly relieved, calm seas Chief, no more pain no more pain.

steve
steve

Yes it is,,,, I have been watching the Viet Naum Era ,, ones I guess not many who have made it through what you just described ,,,,, remember one thing there wasn’t any help,, (IF THAT IS WHAT THEY CALL IT),,,at all of what you have just described,,, and those who were of help the VA latterly got rid of all them,,, I was there and seen it,,,, and 15 years later its worst,,,, I leave it as nothing more then BROWN NOSERS,,,, that’s all is left,,,, with orders to kick you into no help and helplessness as a solution to being a caring hospital,,, right,,, this is my 46th year and nothing even the same,,, just a total suicidal place (VA) were to go for death,,,,

Martin
Martin

Psychiatry is a scam. Those are the most harmful and worthless drugs of all. Psychology, of some type, is the only proven treatment.

Beware any psychiatrist. The VA is the only ones who use the ruthless bastards, except hospitals which are more ruthless bastards.

Just say NO! I would not ingest anything from the VA pharmacy (again), free or not. Just look on drugs.com to see what the poisons are they are giving you! Then you’ll realize all the side effects are poison effects. One quarter of USA population about have Indian blood in them, mainly Cherokee, and we, no matter how small of percentage, are extremely chemical sensitive: which is noted on drugs.com! Please don’t be uninformed with the information as close as the internet.