Boise Idaho Tied For Last In Veteran Self-Employment Services

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VocRehab Self-Employment

In a survey of VA regional offices nationwide, Boise VA Regional Office is tied for dead last when it comes to self-employment of all participating facilities.

I just received a FOIA response written by VA Vocational Rehabilitation that surveyed every regional office that administers self-employment benefits for disabled veterans. That survey showed Boise VA tied Wilmington VA at dead last (zero) for approving self-employment benefits for disabled veterans.

The top two facilities were Detroit VA and Manila VA (Philippines).

About VocRehab

The program in question is called VA Vocational Rehabilitation & Employment (VocRehab). This is a $1.5 billion program that helps disabled veterans gain access to suitable employment when they have an employment handicap. An employment handicap exists when a veteran’s service-connected disability affects their ability to gain and maintain suitable employment.

VocRehab Self-Employment

One option for the program is self-employment. Veteran approved for self-employment benefits receive tens of thousands of dollars in training, supplies, and equipment. To provide come context, VocRehab paid for my undergraduate degree, law degree and equipment for my startup law firm.

All in, I received approximately $350,000 in benefits, and you can imagine VocRehab’s sheer joy when I turned around and decided to represent veterans against the agency.

[Hint – They were not thrilled.]

Back in the day, some veterans received up to $100,000 to fund a startup, but it sounds like these numbers are lower today.

Self-Employment Now

I just met with the head of VocRehab, Jack Kammerer, last Friday. The was able to squeeze me in for a last minute meeting after the Board of Veterans Appeals forum I was flown out to participate in.

For the past two years, I have been talking with Kammerer about concerns I have had about the self-employment program.

Veterans have struggled getting the benefit in certain locations more than others. By looking at the numbers, you will likely wonder exactly what I was wondering, “Why are veterans in Manila getting approved for self-employment more than Boise, Idaho?”

The background here is that VocRehab encouraged self-employment benefits until the Government Accountability Office slammed the program for some instances where veterans received improper benefits allocations. Now, some veterans are being misled by their counselors that VocRehab is disbanding its self-employment program.

This is not true, but it has not stopped VocRehab employees nationwide from obstructing access to those benefits.

As an aside, I created a pro bono portion of my practice representing veterans who are 100 PT who sought self-employment benefits where VocRehab denied them arbitrarily.

Anyway, here is a partial FOIA list of the locations that are worst and best for approving self-employment. Veterans at each location need to adjust their expectations accordingly.

If you are in Detroit, the odds may be higher to get approved. If you live in Boise, you might as well wait for hell to freeze over unless Congress gets involved in a major way.

Worst VA Regional Offices

2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Total
Boise Regional Office 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wilmington Regional Office 0 0 0 0 0 0
Albuquerque Regional Office 0 0 0 0 1 1
Anchorage Regional Office 0 0 1 0 0 1
Boston Regional Office 0 0 1 0 0 1
Chicago Regional Office 0 0 0 1 0 1
Ft Harrison Regional Office 0 0 0 1 0 1
Little Rock Regional Office 0 0 1 0 0 1
Milwaukee Regional Office 1 0 0 0 0 1
Pittsburgh Regional Office 0 0 1 0 0 1

 

Best VA Regional Offices

 

2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Total
Detroit Regional Office 8 14 7 16 4 49
Manila 3 4 5 3 5 20
Cleveland Regional Office 4 4 5 2 1 16
Togus Regional Office 3 6 3 2 2 16
Honolulu Regional Office 2 2 3 4 3 14
San Diego Regional Office 1 2 3 3 5 14

 

What is your self-employment experience with VocRehab? Did you get what you needed or were you quickly escorted out of the office? Why is Boise seemingly hating on entrepreneurial disabled veterans?

RELATED: Boise VA Regional Office Leadership

If you are in Boise and concerned, perhaps contact Regional Office director Kathryn Malin, Congressman Mike Simpson, or Senator Mike Crapo.

Overall VocRehab Self-Employment Statistics

How do you feel about where your regional office compares?

namnibor
namnibor
Sure seems just like VA Medical Care in that it’s quite literally a crapshoot from one VAMC to another whether a Vet receives good, marginal, or crappy care. This further sheds light on the systemic problem with the VA System. It’s not so much an even playing field system when quality of care and approval of such benefits as VOCREHAB depend so highly on whom you talk to and what level of corruption exists from location to location. A true… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
Benjamin- Does the full FOIA document show even more important stats and breakdowns as far as any disparity between the total number of Vets whom applied at each location in relation to how many approved? That question may be a given but as I was becoming more caffeinated this morning the thought came to me that comparison that breaks down approval AND rate of denials within entire pool of Vets applying from location to location? Thanks. What I am saying… Read more »
Bill
Bill
I was told we need to get your case closed. This was after being told the VA does not offer self employment help and the va will not set you ip with a hobby, there was just to much fraud up the program. This was all in the first 1/2-hour of the initial meeting. They were concerned with the height of my toliet however and grab bars. Mine you I am not physically handicapped. I am just nuts. I never… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
I think they might have better luck if they shift some of the workload from the Licensed Clinical Social Workers (LCSW) to the equally qualified American Federation of Government Employee (AFGE) janitorial staff. In trial runs at select VA facilities the cleaning staff actuall outperformed the LCSW on aptitude scores and knowledge. Obviously the Vocational Rehab program is cobbled and bogged down by corruption and bogus claims, and that is just on the VA side of things! Imagine how much… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Ben Love the new format but have to ask what happen to the ability to search prior Articles?

The ones that older than 30 days.

Genius H Kennard

Did your credit have anything to do with the amount of money you received?
In other words i have very, very bad credit from Dept. Children & Family Services but i don’t
owe what they say i owe because $66 a month turned into $300 a month and my daughter is in
in college now, $14,256 turned into $67,000 over night, Hmmm, I wonder what’s going on?

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

It is just part of our country’s undeclared war on Veterans.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

I’m sure you will find out more about it when you get arrested and sent through one of these new Veterans Courts. With special procedures outside the laws that govern civilian courts, to handle Veteran’s.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Seymore
In my opinion, there’s an “undeclared war” on the whole of America!

Donna
Donna

Where was Florida’s results? Just curious why they left that out.

Vassilis Margaris
Vassilis Margaris

Thanks Ben
Very informative, right on time!
What is a good phone # to reach you?
Regards
MSG Vassilis Margaris

Nick
Nick
Appears as if the numbers in total are very off kilter. I am speaking of the total number of all approved, without regard to race or SDC. We are looking at 376 total in all. This number seems to be a very low number considering it is for the complete V.A. system. I know that tens of thousands across the whole V.A. must be applying for it. I am in Voc Rehab and will apply for the self employment tract… Read more »
Boris C. Hogan
Boris C. Hogan

Hi Ben. Can you post the results for the Winston-Salem, NC Regional Office? Thanks.

Don
Don

Self employment requires an entrepreneurial spirit. Disabled veterans will face obstacles in obtaining jobs and once in a job face Machiavellian H.R. managers who want put out those employees with costly medical issues. The VA should recognize this and developing the skills and mind set necessary to succeed.
The concept of self employment, working and striving to be your best is alien to most VA employees administering this program.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Question for you Ben: Does the VA bill you for responding to your FOIA requests? If so, why would they do that since you are providing them as an educational service for veterans?

Hondo
Hondo

Ben, it seems this is akin to what our friend Asknod had to deal with regarding his recently won war for a VA approved ADA Greenhouse.

sherry moore
I applied for self- employment. They kept me jump through hoop and up the ladder… providing them several various business plans. Instead of helping me develop those they insisted I go to school for non-profit management. I commuted from my home to the school for over a year. Round trip was 250 miles. I never got a reimbursement for this mandatory training. Then they went silent. Finally after over 2 years they said they did not know how to to… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

The VA receives a lot of taxpayers monies for this FUBAR
So, in my opinion, “Follow the money” seems appropriate in this instance!

Dennis
Dennis
Perhaps the problem is that VA needs a business plan it can understand. The following is a ten point business plan written in a style that is easily understood and sell to VA, and America, and if anyone would like to copy my business plan please send me a self addressed stamped envelope with 2.4 billion $$$ in unmarked currency. Dear VA, here is my Voc/Rehab business plan (Ben, feel free to offer pro bono advoce here…) 1) I am… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Hey, Seymore This just out from “Fox News”, 28 Oct. 2016 at noon. “BOMBSHELL! Trump Announces FBI Reopening of Clinton Email Investigation!!!” (12:04 minutes long) The amount of corruption persisting within all our government agencies is about to be known. Yesterday, Newt Gingrich rattled off a few of the most corrupt. VA was one of those mentioned. It might be, that FBI director James Comey has been taking his position for granted. He has probably been “under that microscope” himself.… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Hey Elf, I saw that and see that there is more info coming out by the minute. It is a great Friday Poo cover day to do a few releases of things they don’t want to talk about. Like “More bonuses for VA employees despite ongoing problems at the agency” Bill Theobald , USA TODAY 3:39 p.m. EDT October 28, 2016″ and the Pentagons current release. “General is most senior Army officer to kill self”, Tom Vanden Brook , USA… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Personally I would prefer that we not put a suicidal General in Charge of our Nukes. Also I have to wonder why we were doing just that.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Elf,

When they put a suicidal General in Charge of our Nukes is that an example of Counter-Intelligence?

namnibor
namnibor

That Anthony ‘Weiner’ is a trainwreck that just keeps plowing-away at terminal velocity. I wondered just how long it would take for Hillary’s Aid, Weiner’s wife or soon-to-be ex, to get caught-up in the continuing trainwreck plowing-away.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Namnibor,

She already is caught up in it. Check google news.

Also since you mentioned “Terminal Velocity”. Any one flying this weekend really should double think it. At least think about waiting a few days until they find out what kind of virus is affecting these planes.

“Pence Plane’s Skid Shows Risks of Tight Runways at LaGuardia”

“bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-28/pence-plane-s-skid-shows-risks-of-tight-runways-at-laguardia”

~~~~

“FedEx cargo plane burns at Fort Lauderdale airport”
“cnn.com/2016/10/28/us/fedex-cargo-plane-fire/”

~~~~

“At Chicago O’Hare, American Airlines 767 catches fire on runway”
“cnn.com/2016/10/28/us/ohare-aircraft-incident/”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Namnibor,

Hopefully the terminal Velocity thing isn’t related to the $1.8 Billion Hillary had transferred to Qatar and is not some new middle eastern variant of the Arkancide Virus that affected planes right after Bill Clinton first took office in 1993.

The virus that wiped out 11 of his former security team personal and the DNC chairman and Treasurer all within 4 months. Of course there was that investigation which was ongoing at that time.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@namnibor and Seymore
I’m thinking Huma Wiener was emailing her hubby, the sick fuck, classified documents. While he was with her and the “Butcher of Benghazi”!
I don’t believe Comey reopened the investigation without reasonable provocation.
Of course, the Dumbocrats WILL, more likely than not, ‘spin’ this against Mr. Trump. As we have now witnessed earlier today.

namnibor
namnibor

Way too much Weiner. Watch, both of them will get appointed to some higher management VA job if Hillary wins. Anthony Weiner will then be later caught in an all glass conference room emailing himself to the world….wait, that’s already happened before with the VA OIG at the VA….could it happen again? 🙂

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Clearly Huma has a Weiner problem. Also when you look I look at her history there are some serious problems with it. Huma was born in Michigan but rasied in Saudi Arabia until she returned to the US for College followed by going to work in the white house immediately following college and was employed by the Clinton administration since 1996. Her parents were both college educator in Saudi Arabia and her father started a publication there. After his death… Read more »
Dina Padilla
One cannot get rebab if hurt on the job or a vet BUT you can if you have been incarcerated. To the tune of at least 500,000 million a year. This is a program by the federal DOL. I wonder just where the states or federal budget get the actual money to support this program? I only know of a few injured workers out of millions that got any rehab. The SSA has rehab programs but no SSA recipient ever… Read more »
Bonzai
Bonzai
In 1999, I went through the VR&E program, In Rapid City, SD, and graduated cum laude with two Information Technology Bachelor of Science degrees. In June I found out that if my disabilities worsened to the point that I could no longer work in the field I was trained in, then I could be re-trained in a field I could work in, specified in Chapter 31. In my initial meeting with a VRC in Memphis, TN, the VRC told me… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
I-Team: VA Continued Paying Construction Company Fraud After Conviction By Louisa Moller, WBZ-TV October 28, 2016 11:28 PM “CHELSMFORD (CBS) — A Chelmsford company convicted of posing as a veteran owned business in order to obtain more than $100 million in government contracts continued to receive money from the Department of Veterans Affairs after it was indicted and convicted, the I-Team has learned. In 2012, David Gorski, the vice president of Legion Construction, was indicted for Conspiracy to Defraud the… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Candy Land back in the news. “Tomah police await toxicology report in probe of VAF death”, MIKE TIGHE, 10/29/2016 “TOMAH — The Tomah Police Department and other agencies are awaiting toxicology reports in the investigation of the death of a 54-year-old woman who had been staying in the Veterans Assistance Foundation’s homeless veterans program at the Tomah VA Medical Center. Tomah Police Chief Mark Nicholson released that information Friday, along with other sketchy details, after medical center officials cited the… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Nothing like calling the police a day latter after the crime scene has been cleaned up.

Dennis
Dennis
When the VA police confiscated multiple drug stashes after I turned in my clinic for distrivuting the drugs on the street, within days the Chief of Staff of Roseburg ordered all evidence to be destroyed. The police investigation acknowledges that the evidence was destroyed under orders. We are talking about a major drug cache, a signed confession, a verbal confession from multiple AFGE employees to VA police as recorded in their own report. Yet, before any outside force could be… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Dennis,

I remember that from reading your posting of the police reports.

They really do think they are above the law.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
The war on Veterans continues “Property appraiser’s office auditing disabled veterans” Friday Posted Oct 28, 2016, By Kelly Humphrey “People say there are only two certainties in life: death and taxes. Sometimes, however, the taxes part can be pretty uncertain. Such is the case with the approximately 800 “totally and permanently” disabled veterans who receive a 100-percent exemption to property taxes in Okaloosa County. The county property appraiser’s office recently sent letters to those veterans stating that they had until… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
While some Veterans will have there primary care administered by Clinical Pharmacist and others will have it administered by Physicians Assistants or Nurses the Doctors at VA will be working for the Military Intensive Care Units via tele med. ~~~~~~~~~~~ “Tele-ICU: future of intensive care”, NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, NV, UNITED STATES, 10.28.2016 “For Airmen working in a hospital’s intensive care unit, getting a second opinion from an experienced physician serves as an invaluable commodity. Airmen at the Mike O’Callaghan… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Holy VA Bat Shit, Seymore Klearly!! Seems the VA Meat Grinder was impacted and the whole flood of impacted VA poo made quite the splatter pattern late on a Friday. Good internet scouring.

As far as VA Telemedicine and in the Intensive Care Unit; I would rather be abducted by aliens and anally probed for weeks before using VA Deathcare. 🙂

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Namnibor, Definitely impacted at the VA. Problem is all that is coming out just the little poos and that show that the patient is still very sick. Maybe after the election they will open the patient up and remove some of the major blockage. Like the Tens of Millions of Dollars they funneled to Brazil to compromise their government through the interior designers at the black hole in Aurora for Brazilian rock and Brazilian wood. Oh and Namnibor got to… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Namnibor, A great article on Brazil from the New York Times that is well worth reading after the Aurora Brazilian connection. Also don’t forget Anthony Weiner’s connection to both Brazil and his Saudi Arabian wife Huma. “Brazil’s Merchants of Death”, by Robert Muggah and Nathan B Thompson, Oct 23, 2016 “RIO DE JANEIRO — As Brazil weathers the worst political and economic crises in living memory, Brazilians can hardly be blamed for being distracted. But there is a subject that… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Seymore and namnibor. Here’s a couple of articles which defy reasoning. Both are from “Newsmax.com”, 28 Oct. 2016. “Free Beacon: Loretta Lynch ‘Pleads Fifth’ on Iran Ransom Probe” During her testimony, she basically tells all our “duly elected lawmakers” to “Fuck off”! Her irresponsible actions are a threat to our ‘National Security’, in my opinion. In the ‘comments section’, one person writes, who would be the worst attorney general, Holder or Lynch? I think, as another commenter expressed, both are… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Hey Elf, That is a great article thank you for posting about it. Definitely a must read. Reminds me of a few quotes on defining Tyranny. The first an unknown author “You know there is tyranny in America when the government Pleads the Fifth”. The second and third from Thomas Jefferson: “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” “When the people fear the government, there is Tyranny. When the government fears… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Oh and Elf,

Rumor has it that the Clinton’s will be indicted, arrested and tried after the new president is elected and inaugurated. That way one of their co-conspirators will not be able to pardon them for their crimes before leaving office.

91Veteran
91Veteran

That depends. I could see Obama issuing a pardon on his last day for anything she or her circle MAY have committed.
It prevents blowback on him.

On these emails, I’m curious if the FBI got wind that wikileaks or others had more damning emails they were going to release.
They said they would result in Hillary getting arrested.
I suspect the FBI decided to have another look and not look more stupid.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
91Veteran, Not sure Obama can grant a pardon for a crime that a person hasn’t been charged for, but maybe. I do believe he would pardon her if she were already charged for sure. As far as the 33,000 emails they are all still accessible no matter what the press says. The tech from that company had uploaded all of them to a G-mail account. Even if he deleted them from the account the FBI still can access them with… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
I agree there were at least 4 devices where her email was stored. That tech copied those emails to a device for her lawyers, and it was that device that was wiped using BleachBit. An Apple Mac was sent to the Clinton foundation in NY, but someone claimed it was lost in the mail and the FBI didn’t pursue it. The FBI also never went to her house to seize her server, and never bothered to go to Datto where… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

That’s what many Utube “Alt-right” news sources are saying.
Also, it seems Huma and Anthony Weiner’s electronic devices held classified info. Information which was “forwarded” by Hillary Clinton.
A violation of law. Plus, this means she committed perjury to Congress and FBI.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Seymore,
I can’t get my comments to post.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

This morning the wife watched a Utube video of Megan Kelly. Where the Dumbocrats are accusing Trump, or his followers, of “paying off Comey” to reopen the investigation into Hillary’s emailgate!

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