Florida VA Rails Against Hanging President Trump Photo, Removes Image

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Florida VA

Veterans upset by a Florida VA facility’s tardy hanging of photos of President Donald Trump and VA Secretary David Shulkin, MD, took action Tuesday.

The facility was the West Palm Beach VA. The Congressman’s name that hung the photos was none other than double amputee and Army veteran Brian Mast (R-Fl).

Rep. Mast noticed the facility still lacked images of its leadership and took matters into his own hands. He found two proper photos of the President and Secretary and ensured they were hung in the proper place within the VA facility.

What followed was captured on Facebook Live and is posted on the Gruntworks Facebook page.

Florida VA Removal Of President Trump Photo

A group of many veterans surrounded the unofficial ceremony that resulted in the images of the President and Secretary being hung properly in the wall in the placeholders left vacant after President Trump was inaugurated. After almost two months, veterans found VA’s lack of prompt placement of official photos concerning.

Right after Rep. Mast left the facility, the images of the President and Secretary were taken down at the order of facility executives.

A VA spokeswoman asserted the photos you see above could not be authenticated and that they must be sent from VA Central Office. So what is the delay? Is that true?

She continued to say the actions of the Congressman and other veterans were “inappropriate.” She also asserted the video of the event published by Gruntworks was obtained illegally.

Apparently, Florida VA facilities can secretly record veterans without their knowledge, but videos taken in plain sight in a lobby is somehow illegal.

It takes some solid brass to insult a sitting Congressman and disabled veteran, and I will be curious to see how long that spokeswoman keeps her job.

Still, the bigger story here is that veterans were fed up by the lack of action and lack of respect for the President and Secretary by staff not taking action to replace President Obama’s photograph. And they took action.

Florida Veterans Speak Out

Combat veteran Beau Brumfield was one of the individuals present. He said not hanging the photographs was disrespectful.

“Proud of the fact that the local vet community got it done. We walked in there, we made it happen. It was non-confrontational. It was nonpolitical. We just wanted to see it happen,” said Veteran Brumfield.

“Two blank holes, it’s been 60 something days now,” said Veteran John Rourke. “The veterans administration has been asked about it a few times, the local VA hospital has and they haven’t had any real reason other than they didn’t have the picture, which is readily available.”

I am personally impressed veterans are taking ownership of their local VA facilities and taking steps to respect the President and Secretary even when local staff executives refuse to do so.

I am even more impressed that one of those veterans is a combat veteran who is elected to public office and willing to take on VA for insulting the present leadership of this country and VA.

How long do you think it will take for West Palm Beach VA to replace the images?

Source: http://cbs12.com/news/local/portraits-of-president-trump-sec-of-va-taken-down-from-local-va-center

cj
cj
All hail to the great King Obama. One of the reasons I have hated to go to the VA for the past 8 years, is because of how fucking giddy all these damn union assholes were, and remain to day…..over that usless piece of shit known as OBAMA. His picture should be replaced as fast as GW. Bush’s was replace. PERIOD. If the administrator at this, or any other VA facility doesn’t get this up to par, then President Trup… Read more »
cj
cj

Fucking typo’s……….who cares this ain’t no speeeling class……….

Bill
Bill

No problem, i can’t read

I noticed that there were 2 blank holes where the pictures belong 2 weeks ago at the lansing mi cboc. I thought damn they are slow putting the new ones up.

Genius H Kennard
Genius H Kennard

Did you see that crazy video of Snoop Dogg shooting a clown image of Trump? What is Snoop doing with a
silencer? His nephew Bow Wow says that he will make Melonia his sex slave if Donald talks about his uncle again
of his failing music career. If they don’t apologize their stay in this country might be limited. PEOPLE YOU DON’T
VERBALLY OR EVEN PRETEND TO THREATEN A US PRESIDENT!

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
your right i had a friend mine back in the 1980’s he was drunk and was talking on a pay phone trashing the then president at the time he didn’t even get to hang up the phone yet and he got swarmed by one of those three letter agencies charged for threating the president putt his ass in jail for a year they have been taping phone conversations…… for a long time….. his first name was carlos, i’m sure you… Read more »
cj
cj
@Genius H Kennard: Some states it is legal to own a silencer, it’s awful expensive but you can do it. I agree, any threat of violence to a sitting or former President should be intantly met with the full force of the law. I couldn’t stand Obama, or Clinton, or Bush, but I would NEVER make a threat against a president past or present, or their families. I was brought up thinking that to do such a thing meant instant… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Some states it is legal to own a silencer, and the others are A 200.00 tax stamp and you can own or make your own

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: All true. Did you know in the UK, it is considered rude to not use a silencer? People do have their onw ranges in the basement, and neighbors like peace and quite. Of course here in the USA they automatically think if you want a silencer you must be up to no good.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I HAVE ALL MY PARTS TO MAKE ONE BUT I DIDNT GET A TAX STAMP YET JUST ANOTHER PROJECT

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

punch this in on the utube search……… Silencer / Suppressor build and testing .223 / 22 Cal. ………he makes the best one i have seen yet

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

and its not ill legal to have the parts as long as there are no holes drilled in it…I want to make one for my M1A and AK47

Greensborovet
Greensborovet

What’s the problem? He was just exercising his 1st and 2nd rights. You know. Like those other people that made all the jokes and shot pics of Obama out on the shooting ranges. It’s up the secret service to investigate. As for the pics not being put up, dam. I thought is was funny. Just my 2 cents.

91Veteran
91Veteran
I think this is little more than bureaucrats moving slowly to get Trumps picture up. I recall news articles about how happy some federal slugs were at how fast they replaced Bush’s picture with Obama. It shows how childish they were by simply being comforted by their cult leaders picture being up. Likely the same idiots who wear T-shirts with Che or Fidel on the weekends. Proudly displaying their ignorance. Childish flunkies quick to put up someone they agree with,… Read more »
cj
cj

@91Veteran: Most likely, considering they still don’t think he is a “real” legitimate President yet. Once the shock wears off, and reality sets in the pictures will be sent. I agree, there are many more issues more important than this one, it sure is a fun distraction tho. Some of the funniest comments to date are on this page. It is good we can take things with a grain of salt. The humor is amazing,

james gallegos
My opinion, This is retaliation by that Facility to make a statement against Trump. For stating he is going to clean the swamp at the VA. The VA first Act has passed and just waiting for Trump to sign it. They know that many of them have broken the law and do not deserve to be in positions they are in and need to be removed. They see the writing on the wall and are lashing out. Its the VA… Read more »
Jim
Jim

You are a MORON, at least POS Trump could have done was Smile, when you walked in before Obama was smiling as if to say Welcome, The look on Coward Draft Dodger Trumps face is, [email protected] Idiots, I avoided the draft with a FAKE medical Condition, and you are all a bunch of Leeches sucking the Government Tit!

cj
cj

Who is sucking on the government tit moron? Oh that’s right it’s Jim the moron.
I receive Jack shit from the VA, you uninformed political union hack. You on the other hand make a living off the monies slated for disabled veterans. So how does that feel, you unethical, union hack, Traitor Obama loving asswipe?

Now get back to work, your supposed to be serving veterans, not mouthing off on blogs that expose your corrupt ass.

Dennis
Dennis
So by her logic, if I snuck up behind her at a VA facility and planted my boot up her hind end then she would not be able to correctly deduce that split leather was up her ass because it could not be authenticated. She may well be within logic and reason to assert that the boot was not authorized in thatblocation, and might even demand its removal, but if I want to take a video of the event it… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

That video may be worth pay-per-view just to see a boot leather suppository.

Disabled Navy Veteran
Disabled Navy Veteran

Regardless if you like him or not he is STILL the President unless the Congress and Supreme Court tell us something else.

Jim
Jim

Hopefully they will find him guilty of Treason in a trial and execute him. Fitting end for a Cowad Draft Dodger!

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

and i suppose OBUMER was a real war hero

namnibor
namnibor

“[It takes some solid brass to insult a sitting Congressman and disabled veteran, and I will be curious to see how long that spokeswoman keeps her job.]”

That VA Spokeswoman will no doubt be promoted by the VA to the head of the Interior Decorating Committee, (IDC), easily confused with the VA’s own major mantra of “I Don’t Care”.

Remember, the VA CARES and their level of indifference shows no measurable limits.

namnibor
namnibor
Notice in today’s Ben’s “VA Bad Art” standing in the background with a camera to face is one of the VA’s examples of “Excellence In Healthcare”? Notice the Congressman and Veterans are in relative good shape considering everything but the one VA employee caught in camera’s lens is one of the Hungry, Hungry Hippos that hypocritically tell Vets they need to lose weight? He even looks like a Patient Advocate but they only come out of their offices on Groundhog’s… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Any good reporter would have asked that VA spokeshack how many times fake pictures have been sent to their facilities, hung by ignorant union thugs, only to have the first veteran notice weeks later the picture is fake and alert VA officials. Had it happened so often all precautions must be taken? Are the authentic pictures delivered by a Brinks armored truck pulled by an old sway-back mare? Is that why it takes 60 days to deliver a picture from… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@91Veteran- “[Anyone want to suggest maybe using email to send an official picture and have it printed locally?]”

That will not do at all because the VA prints those photos on recycled paper made from shredded Veteran Claim Files. Now the entire authentication thing makes sense. 🙂

CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!

LOL Nam!!! “IDC”

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
A couple of things here. This is about how VA uses “state law” vs. “federal law”, (Or “1st Amendment Rights), when it suits their agenda! Especially when it “…gets in the way of recording something, someone or anything on VA properties!” And, especially when it shows VA employees being STUPID! To make my case; In Florida, we have the “two party consent rule”! Meaning, everyone must be in agreement to be recorded! For example, when anyone calls, you MUST immediately… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@Crazy elf- “[In my opinion, the management of that VHA should be mandated to bring that Congressman and the veterans who “hung the portraits of President Trump and Sec. of VA Shulkin” back – and on National TV – apologize for their FUCK-UP!]” Great point. However, does any Veteran, Spouse, or Surviving Spouse *ever* recall the VA saying those words of, “We ARE SORRY”? I have not, not once, no matter the scandal. One thing is correct though, the VA… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

You can bet if that spokesnitwit has zero problem publicly denigrating a congressman and disabled veteran in the media, they would have zero problem with lying to his staff inquiring on behalf of his veteran constituents.

91Veteran
91Veteran

You know, veterans should be gathering pictures of their VA Directors. Edit them to say, “Official Portrait, VA Director McFlunky”, and “VA is Lying”.
Print a few out at home before your next appointment, then visit every bathroom in the facility and tape them to the inside door of every stall.

How many would still be on those doors after 6 months?

Imagine how many pictures of those official portraits could be taken by vets and posted online.

namnibor
namnibor
I’m thinking the black sharpie marker I always keep on-hand for such opportunities of creative expression would be in good order on McFlunky Portraits in bathroom stalls. However, I also have a feeling quite a few copies would be needed, probably an entire ream, because you just know Vets are going to wipe their asses with them and just maybe put them back up, then you have perfect adhesive qualities of poo for the fresh official portrait to stick to.… Read more »
sysays
sysays

The bottom line here is that too much policy is in the hands of bureaucrats who feel that they are unaccountable to anyone and in too many cases they are not accountable. It’s an insane way to operate any organization.

namnibor
namnibor
Today’s article also is a classic template you can utilize for many other things the VA should do but they will not until the disinfecting qualities of sunlight are shown upon them. Take TBI as but one of many examples, where the VA used unqualified hacks for exams and improperly denied still waiting Veterans. Congress then has to create a band aid mandate every fracking time in an attempt to light a fire under their lackadaisical asses. Take Veteran Suicide… Read more »
cj
cj

@namnibor: Now that’s what I call Choice health care. I love it.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Oh, that would be fun.

Excuse me. I can’t continue with this appointment until I verify your training. Please provide a copy of your transcripts, CV, and evidence of practical training before we can continue.

Yes, I see your diploma. It looks much like the one the mail order companies use in their advertisements in the back of magazines.

cj
cj

@namnibor: Isn’t it funny how all government institutions are forced to purchase libtarded art? Don’t you wish veterans could have such a sweet deal as having a useless profession, and forcing the taxpayers to support it? Let’s bottle union slime, and market it as anti President Trump spray. The snowflakes would buy in bulk not realizing it was actually deicer, and we could give proper monthly checks to disabled veterans.

namnibor
namnibor

“Bottled Union Slime” can also be used to strip woodwork or infect your entire family with some new disease the VA is sure to develop a cure for eventually, but Veterans should instead push for “Bottled Union Slime Treasonous Egotistical Dicks”, aka: “BUSTED”. (only available currently in VA authenticated suppositories)

cj
cj

@namnibor: LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
“cj”, why not fill the spray bottles with the (stinking) chemical used to “bait beavers”! Trust me, cj, that shit stinks! I’m sure Dennis has first hand knowledge of it. Being he’s up in Oregon now!!!! ___________________________ Oh, namnibor, concerning that “FAT (VA) FUCK” in the back of the picture. In my opinion, he had ample opportunity to either “get his lard ass out of the way!” Or, “Say something!” Since he didn’t, oh fuckin’ well! He’s now in the… Read more »
cj
cj
@Crazy elf: I can see that “skunk musk, scented deicer ” also known as snowflake remover. We keep on developing this, and we just might have a hit on our hands. I saw on the news a guy put out a book on amazon called “Reasons To Vote For Democrats: A Comprehensive Guide” it is a best seller on amazon. it is a blank book. Number 1 seller. The Dem’s tried to counter it with the same, complete flop. That’s… Read more »
cj
cj

“Bottled Union Slime Treasonous Egotistical Dicks”, aka: “BUSTED”. (only available currently in VA authenticated suppositories) Also known as innuendo’s

namnibor
namnibor

Those suppositories would naturally be the shape/form-factor of the tip of a steel-toed boot.

Frank
Frank
I am a combat vet and I work at this VA. Cooler heads should prevail on this issue if somebody would show proof and answer the question of how long did it take for other presidents picture to get put up. I would like to assume that it’s a process of getting an official picture which maybe, they haven’t received yet. If that’s the case, then all this outrage seems pretty silly. If that’s not the case and Obama picture… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@Frank– Larger question in all due respect: Did YOU raise YOUR voice about the missing photos? How about raising of your voice about the corruption at the VA YOU work at that you allude to ALREADY knowing how corrupt they are at that particular VAMC? Have you gone VA Whistleblower and if not, why? This is a systemic problem with the VA and hope your allegiance is still to fellow Veterans and not just your own job security. Rant Out.
Greensborovet
Greensborovet
(Larger question in all due respect: Did YOU raise YOUR voice about the missing photos? How about raising of your voice about the corruption at the VA YOU work at that you allude to ALREADY knowing how corrupt they are at that particular VAMC? Have you gone VA Whistleblower and if not, why? This is a systemic problem with the VA and hope your allegiance is still to fellow Veterans and not just your own job security.) All is quiet… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

Frank, I don’t disagree, but I think if it truly is a case of the pictures being slow to be sent, the spokeshack could have been a bit more diplomatic at explaining the issue to the press.

And to veterans.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Hey folks, We got “Frank” on here, telling us he works there. First, he’s blasting us. Then he blasted his administration. So, this is what we would expect from VHA’s employees! Well Frank, Try answering this; “Were those true pictures of President Trump and Sec. of VA Dr. Shulkin?” *”IF”* your answer is “YES”! And it better be “YES”! Then, what the fuck is the problem? These disabled veterans, and the “Combat Disabled American Veteran”, who just so happened to… Read more »
cj
cj

@Crazy elf: Amen.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Oh, and by the way, Frank. Are you using VHA’s computer, while at work, responding to Ben’s blog and commenters – who mostly ARE combat disabled veterans!

cj
cj
In breaking news, a federal district judge in Hawaii just issued a nationwide block of the new Executive order. Disturbingly, the judge ruled that the order – pausing the refugee program and admittance of foreign nationals from 6 terrorist hotbeds until thorough vetting can be put in place – targeted Muslims and violated the Establishment Clause. The court has created a constitutional crisis where none exists. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the First Amendment. It ignores the separation of powers.… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Here’s something I’ve been asking lately; “When will the DOJ convene a Grand Jury to hopefully indict all the reprobates in Washington DC over the multiple criminal activities they have been responsible for?” I’ve been asking this for some time now on Utube videos. My Reason is simple. The DOJ is the top Judicial agency of law enforcement. They have a responsibility to issue warrants when the Grand Jury says to indict a criminal. Up until now, especially during the… Read more »
Bill
Bill

If you can ttust their own internal audits!!!

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

your right about that BILL, internal audits would be a joke

Windguy
Windguy
Another reason? Sort of? We had a town hall from our VA Hosp (Roseburg, OR) (I know, Dennis) who was discussing the delayed opening of our brand spanking new, still minimally staffed CBOC. It seems the likely high bid contractor screwed up and some major wiring issues have to be remediated. Being a gubmint contract – I’m sure that’ll be cost plus too. But I again digress. We were also informed that there will be no artwork for the new… Read more »
Lem
Lem

I agree, windguy. Time to get rid of the Party system and go independent. Probably take something like caucuses without campaigning and several levels to find the candidates that wanna do instead of the wanna bees.

namnibor
namnibor
If the VA Mental Health and Medical Health end of things were thinking straight and trying to do two things at same time, they could do the following, at ALL VA Facilities: 1) Use the creativity available in the very Veterans the VA supposedly serves. 2) Art Therapy as well as Music Therapy help with PTSD/Anxiety/Depression, as well as other chronic health issues by allowing yourself to *just let go* and it’s way more effective than big pharma options, in… Read more »
catblue
catblue
Great idea and I will tell you why… Our rural hospital displays local artist work though out the lobby and down the public hallways, some even on easels and all with a tiny (yes, need readers to see) notes with artist info & price. It really brightens up the place (even though some is so not my style) and helps local artists at the same time. Being rural, I can imagine it is somewhat like a VA hospital/facility in it… Read more »
Windguy
Windguy
And Now For Something Entirely Different. The AMA has Weighed In On Obrumpa-Care The AMA weighs in on Obrumpacare The Allergists were in favor of scratching it; but the Dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves. The Gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it; but the Neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve. Meanwhile, Obstetricians felt certain everyone was laboring under a misconception; while the Ophthalmologists considered the ideas shortsighted. Pathologists yelled, “Over my dead… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Nice.

91Veteran
91Veteran

And the VA nurse practitioner said, pffft. This isn’t so hard. I can do all of that.

cj
cj

@91Veteran: Your on a roll today, it’s good to see your having a good day. I think this topic was a good distraction from the very serious topics of the near past. It looks like every one commenting was having fun, with the exception of Frank, who was no using his time on the VA computer very wisely.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Cj, it DID feel good to just be a smartass and pointing out the lunacy of the VAs actions.

namnibor
namnibor

@91Veteran- You mistook that “pffft” for the VA nurse practitioner’s ass and was a blast from her intestinal past…or…she really was just talking out her ass.

William Ritter13
William Ritter13

The ANTI-AMERICANS at the VA are the ones with the DEATH?LIST. PRESIDENT TRUMP MUST DRAIN THE SWAP AT THE VA.

Lem
Lem
Off topic: Does anyone know what the backlog in administrative processing is? My claim/appeal was moved to administrative processing from the BVA on 3/6/2017. Probably in response to my offering to settle an SF-95 malpractice case for $3,750,000.00 via the VA disability compensation route for 80% from 7/20/1974 to 10/1/1985 and then 100% TDIU from 10/1/1985 in my request for reconsideration that was mailed on 2/25, due on 3/8. After 25 years on a 1992 claim and appeal something finally… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

GO GET THEM LEM AND HOPE YOU GET GOOD RESULTS FOR YOUR HARD WORK

Lem
Lem

I didn’t calculate it out or I might not have made the offer. essentially I’m offering to settle for 1 million plus 200 thousand attorney’s fees. Plus 100% for the rest of my life and spousal benefits.

May be giving the VA more of a bargain than I would have if I had calculated it out. I didn’t expect a move to accept. And I still don’t have a letter, just eBenefits showing the move to consideration.

cj
cj

@Lem: Lem, I hope that is great news for you. You been at this a very long time, and I hope you get what your after. It would be a win for so many veterans, and should be a very proud moment in your life. I wish you the best.

Lem
Lem
Thanks cj. Straight to the paper and a copy to Benjamin if It comes out right so others will know. The new evidence on cerebral malaria is only 4 months old. Leaves 32 months of veteran’s with organic brain syndromes to get their SF-95 claims in. Anyone in that boat with a history of a TBI particularly right or left frontal or middle left side can contact me at “[email protected]” for info to ask their SF-95 be joined to my… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
Anyone remember watching the original ‘Scooby-Doo’ cartoons where in the creepy old insane asylum castle all the framed pictures had eyes that could slide back so the voyeur human villain can watch his prey’s progress? Another classic example was a Truman Capote novel made into a movie called “Murder by Death” and the moose on the wall had the villain peeping through the stuffed moose head mounted on wall. “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_by_Death” Like the above examples, maybe the VA’s “authenticated portrait photos”… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Yeah, I’m suggesting the DBC might just be watching Vets through those eyes on walls at the VA.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

off topic you need to watch this video on utube ……….. tImpeachara ®………these people really do need QUACKS its snowflake medicine LOL its worth a good laugh for sure

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE; Are you sure of that spelling OLDMARINE? I can’t find anything with that search.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

i screwed up on the first link its the ……impeachara…..on youtube……..i am tired and it shows….

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: LOL, Thank you for the video on impeachara, way too funny. I have seen the video you mentioned on that fine dirt trap for cleaning rifle barrels, wink, wink. very good. I would love a dirt trap for my AR10. First I would need to move the hell out of Illinois.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I was born and raised in Cleveland Ohio lived in Fla. for a while then i headed for the hills best move i ever made.we don’t even get cell phone reception here

cj
cj

OMGGGG! You guys are on a roll today [email protected] Well played sir.

I will check back in later, this is one tough crowd lol.

91Veteran
91Veteran
I’m surprised I haven’t read yet that only official photos should be hung, obtained through official channels. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the photos shown in this post, but I bet VA executives and spokeshacks already have their excuses pre-printed. Anyone else find it ironic the VA rigidly wants to follow the rules in this instance while blatantly doing the opposite or breaking the law most of the time? How many bureaucrats at that VA committed fraud in reporting… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@91Veteran- One Exception: Had those Veterans and Veteran Congressman rather been concerned that the VA did not have enough posters plastered warning Vets about travel pay fraud and took it upon themselves to plaster-up 40 more they made with crayons and markers, the VA would probably not have one issue with it. I think the larger issue is the management at that VA is very scared of close scrutiny, and probably a salvo of fraud and deception going on while… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

Good ppint on the travel fraud posters Nam. The VA likely rotates those damn things out weekly replacing them with new ones.

Jo3n
Jo3n
This topic should be a joke, not an issue. @Windguy, that was good. @Cj, finally found video on YouTube. The only issue is that it’s an issue at all. I agree with, “Veterans Art”, and have seen the value and positive results from Veterans who have benefited from art. While at VA in Menlo Park, Ca., some Veterans formed a band. Called it, “Prozac and the Trazatones”. Couldn’t get through a complete set without someone nodding off, but it was… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@Jo3n- My band might be called “The Nonhuman Test Subjects”, as but one idea. Back-up singers would be “The Hungry, Hungry Hippos Quartet” (there would only be -2-, but sizable girth to fill a quartet, in VA Nurse Uniforms). Prior to each set, 100’s of in-flight emergency breathing masks will fall-down from the rafters with calming vapors so the crowd has a great time and every set sounds fine, even if the band ceased playing and were sitting in pool… Read more »
cj
cj
@Jo3n: In my comment about useless art. That was not meant as an insult to art or people that like art. It was more geared toward the government forcing agencies to purchase art from liberals, who for the most part are useless human mutants, living a great life off of the rest of us. I think people engaging in any art form is a fantastic thing. I just wish the government would force agencies to purchase veterans art at the… Read more »
Jo3n
Jo3n
Sometimes, that’s as good as it gets. One of the problems many Veterans have, is they are bored. Many have no one in their lives. I know several Veterans where ALL they have for, “out of their head” thinking, is what they get when at the VA. There should be, and in some there are, a good place for Veterans just to hang out. That’s what I thought the VFW’s, American Legion, and places like that were for. @Namnibor, this… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
I will be quite honest in the Vets that I have personally known that went to the various VSO Lodges to just “hang-out” usually did so around happy hour. The only form of fraternity offered to Vets unfortunately is cheap drinks, which actually further pulls some people deeper down the rabbit hole of isolation and depression. Not a drinker here, so since I really did not have that interest in that form of camaraderie, as I have no patience for… Read more »
cj
cj
@Jo3n,@namnibor: I think I have only been in a VFW one time in my life. It was in Woodstock IL. just off the square where they filmed Groundhog days. It was about an hour before lunch, the entire work crew was there, we sat for about 15 minutes and didn’t see a single soul. no people, no bartender………no one. It was kinda eerie. Never been back to one. I can say tho, since 9/11, with all the new veterans, that… Read more »
Jo3n
@Namnibor, I don’t drink very often, and I have never been to VFW’s or any of them. I did think, up till I began dealing with the VA, that they were for Veterans. I have come to believe that most VSO’S are in it for themselves. Sadly. I don’t live near much, but I have people around me and I feel very blessed. The Veterans I know locally, are the private kind. Several have never been to any VA. They… Read more »
cj
cj
@Jo3n: Jo3n, I saw your response on the fire ants in the soil……….yikes……I would rather deal with the slugs n stuff we have up here. You guys have some strange scary critters down in your neck of the woods. Black widows etc. I am one of those guys that isn’t afraid of anything…………except spiders. When I was a kid a cop rolled up on us while we were playing in the grade school parking lot, he jumps out of his… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
*Fire Ants* ~~~~SHUDDER~~~~ Texas had many interesting surprises, but having been sent to an Army Camp by the USAF for heavy weapon training, I found myself being covered and bit frantically after jumping into this low area for cover in a training exercise. My brain still can remember how awfully painful that was and the blistering bites seemed to take forever to heal and they seemed to hurt thereafter in a nerve agent kind of way. Fire Ants are evil.… Read more »
cj
cj

@namnibor: I like your idea how to take care of isis. Goodnight namnibor and God Bless. Sleep well.

js
js

same thing is happening in the Lk Nona VA in Orlando

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