VA Spent Billions Without Denting Doctor Hiring Problem

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Doctor Hiring

An NPR investigation found that despite $2.5 billion in special funding, VA added no more doctors and other clinicians than without the extra money.

Veterans Choice and Accountability Act added $16 billion to the VA budget in 2014 with the goal of fixing the wait time problem that led to a scandal where many veterans died without much-needed healthcare.

$10 billion was supposed to go to help veterans get non-VA healthcare. $2.5 billion was supposed to go to hiring more doctors, nurses and other clinicians.

NPR’s recent investigation into effects of the expensive but needed fix found the following:

  • VA has about the same number of new hires as it projected to have without the added funding;
  • The new hires were not sent to VA hospitals with the longest wait times;
  • The medical centers that received new hires were not likely to see improved wait times.

Doctor Hiring Funding Shell Game

The reason for the hiring failure is reportedly budget shuffling that occurred after the funding was distributed. This is no surprise to anyone who noticed VA reallocating other funding to pay for cures like the Hepatitis C vaccine.

RELATED: Veterans Choice To Be Fleeced For Hepatitis C Vaccine

According to NPR, VA used the funds to hire the same clinicians it would have hired without the funding. Instead of doubling down on hiring clinicians, VA then reallocated less restricted funds in the same amount to fund other projects.

David Shulkin, the soon to be Secretary of Veterans Affairs, supported his decisions as to how the funds were allocated while he led the Veterans Health Administration.

Shulkin told NPR in December:

“When you’re given a budget you face a number of new stresses on those resources. You have increases in pharmaceuticals, you have your wage increase, you have your leasing cost increases, you have IT increases. So without the Choice money, we would not have been able to have maintained the type of hiring that we were doing and expanded the type of hiring we were doing.”

Phil Carter, of the Center for New American Security, says this kind of budget strategy is common for self-interested bureaucracies in Washington:

“It makes complete sense for a self-interested bureaucracy to hire with that money first. I think VA hired staff with this money will all intention of improving access and quality. I think the VA leadership found it harder to do that.”

Carter went on to state he did not believe the shell game with funds intended to increase the number of clinicians was done with malice, “But I don’t see malice here, just the basic inefficacy of American bureaucracy.”

Do you agree?

It will be interesting to see if any Senators ask Shulkin about this apparent shell game today (February 1) during his confirmation hearing starting at 2:30 PM EST.

WATCH: David Shulkin Confirmation Hearing

For those of you hoping Shulkin will be pressed on this issues, do not hold your breath. He has wide support from Democrats, veteran organizations, and some Republicans including Senator Johnny Isakson.

Sen. Isakson reportedly promoted keeping former Secretary Bob McDonald after the 2016 election. While that seemed like an impossible request in light of the animosity between President Donald Trump and McDonald, keeping Shulkin was the next best thing to some.

Following a meeting with Shulkin, Sen. Isakson provided the following comments:

“As the undersecretary for health at the VA, Dr. Shulkin is no stranger to the work that needs to be done to bring accountability to the department. Dr. Shulkin’s overwhelming approval by the Senate in 2015 demonstrates the kind of broad, bipartisan support that I expect to see this time for his confirmation as secretary of the VA. I believe Dr. Shulkin to be a passionate veterans advocate who will work to transform the VA and ensure our veterans get the timely, quality care and support they deserve. I look forward to chairing his confirmation hearing.”

Personally, I bet Trump was unable to find a suitable substitute for McDonald who was also willing to take the job.

Each administration brings in someone new who is always taking a year just to get caught up with the cronies and scandals must less developing policies to address them.

By picking Shulkin, a person who should be familiar with the wait list scandal, the success or failure of reforms over the next few years will deservedly hang around Shulkin’s neck.

Instead of giving him a Scarlet A, we would give him a Scarlet F – – for FAIL.

While I will not hold my breath, I will remain hopeful Shulkin succeeds.

Source: http://www.npr.org/2017/01/31/512052311/va-hospitals-still-struggling-with-adding-staff-despite-billions-from-choice-act

cj
cj
I think anytime extreme amounts of money are involved, nobody is to be trusted, There needs to be oversight. Who should do that oversight? That is the 100 billion dollar question. The House and the Senate sure isn’t doing it, and I thought it was their job to do so. Washington has gotten so far out of hand I don’t think it could ever be brought back under control. Maybe Mark Levine is right, we need an article iv convention… Read more »
cj
cj

I meant article v convention of states.

BMcL
BMcL

“I wanna release the Kracken on them…”…HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ALSO, Godzilla and Mothra!

Quite honestly though, leaving it up to the States is not really a good idea. Elected officials in each State would most likely extort funds by feds for State “pet projects”!
No matter which way, we are screwed.

cj
cj

@BMcl: I beleive you are correct,

Ex va
Ex va
The careline would have unspent salary dollars because they did not hire doctors or providers and this money they had to spend or it would be forfeited. The end of a fiscal year was September, so they had to spend this money, but it had to be linked to Veteran care. They would spend on items such as solid cherry office furniture, trips for conference trainings, and other useless items that did nothing to improve Veterans care. This is how… Read more »
cj
cj
@Ex va: Yes, your correct, sometimes when I post, I don’t make sence to the topic at hand because I get blinded by anger, and still have the thougts of lost brothers and sisters intrenched in my mind. Also it is very hard for me to keep up with the rest of you. All of you have a much greater knowledge, and are better at sifting through all this information. I don’t even have the ability to form a proper… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
@ cj, sorry to hear of your cognitive problems. That really sucks. My emotions get the best of me and i don’t make sense at times too. TBI is awful, sorry to hear this about you. The confusion and time lapsing i really hate that, i get that too. In my opinion people with personality disorders tend to not interact much. I do not see that at all with you. Your lack of sleep, and i do the same causes… Read more »
cj
cj
@Ex va: You have always made PERFECT sence to me. i get the absolute finest care for my TBI, just not from the V.A. I go to a memmory center, with highly qualified doctors, and have for the past 4 years. Can you imagine what it is going to be like if my case ever lands in front of a judge? Memmory center 4+ years of data vs V.A.’s 15 minute accessment by an UNQUALIFIED Psyd. Who by the way… Read more »
cj
cj
@Ex va: To reitterate, when I talk about losing brothers and sisters, I am not talking about “in combat” lossed, as I am not a combat veteran. I am talking about close personal friends exposed to AO, that over the years I watched deteriorate without ever getting the help they need from the V.A. Still today, I have friends in need of the same help. This whole wait it out until they die, makes me sick. NON combat veteran with… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
@cj, i know you will get justice from the judge when you finally get to appear before him. You have overwhelming evidence with all these injuries. Va doesn’t have enough with an assessment. Too many brothers and sisters Veterans have been abused, neglected and died from va’s care. The va just does not want to take any responsibility for their failures. The va credibility is worthless when they deliberately do these acts criminal acts. Sorry, you have a lot of… Read more »
cj
cj
@Ex va: Yes military records were included, now get this, I was in an explosion in an inclosed room, airlifed to a hospital, I have no memory of the incident or the airlift, or where they brought me , or who I even saw. In their denial they stated in their opinion, I was airlifed to have a 2 inch metal sliver removed from my eye, due to an explosion, and stated personality disorder and not TBI, and headaches and… Read more »
cj
cj

Remember, back in 77 they didn’t even know what a TBI was. I would except their denial if they mentioned the reason for refusal of a TBI, was due to the fact in 77, instead of good music like elf’s generation had, we had disco disco duck!!! And therfore it was a pre-exsiting mental disorder.

Ex va
Ex va
@ cj, you are lucky to be alive with going thru that incident. Yes, that is what they do, just continue the lie. Once they state it, they keep repeating it. Crazy.! Is your eye ok? Keep copies of all your records. It is better if you read them and remember what is in them if you can. You probably know all of this. I watched some of the hearing today. It made me angry, it was like everything is… Read more »
cj
cj
@Ex va: I don’t know how to reponde to the pain issue and stuff. When they ask that stupid question “what’s your pain level” I refuse to answer. I think, let’s see, if a woman, giving birth, gets in an accident on the wat to the hospital, and she breaks her leg, and has a femur sticking thourgh the side of her leg, I think that is a 10, so ummm ok maybe my pain is only 1 then. Since… Read more »
cj
cj

Sorry for the bas spelling, etc.

cj
cj

Grrrrrrrrrr bad spellng even……………….sheesh.

91Veteran
91Veteran
cj, my comment is for your memory related or cognitive problems. There are ways to compensate for it which you are doing, the problem is in recognizing when remembering something could be a problem. I have been fighting those problems for over 25 years since they started while I was still in the Gulf War. I firmly believe the problems are from us being exposed to chemical weapons when the munitions dumps and Saddam’s chemical plants were blown up and… Read more »
cj
cj
@91 Veteran: Thank you for your reply. I honestly coould not beiieve my eyes, complete shock, really. Like you reached into my head, and that is what you found. I must have read it over and over again at least ten times. You know EXACTLY what this is like. Sometimes, you can’t tell if you actually had a converstation with someone, or if you just thought you did. You even do stupid shit like, take a shower, and then not… Read more »
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Ex Va
Ex Va
Bureaucracy is to blame for the lack of hiring doctors when funding is available. Wrong, Liar! They don’t hire because it is hard to be a doctor or specialist at the va level of clinical productivity. They doctors (pscychiatrist, psychologist,) look to hire other doctors who would be willing to part of the scheduling scheme of not seeing veterans. to neglect Veterans and mistreat and abuse them. These are the kind of doctors and providers they want. If they are… Read more »
BMcL
BMcL
That’s TRUE! As someone who I presume worked at the DVA (Ex VA), you are aware that most C&P examiners specialize in “Internal Medicine”. This is NOT beneficial to those Veterans, who are ordered to attend a C&P exam, that have ailments not related to Internal Medicine. In other words, these examiners don’t have sufficient enough experience/education to opine on a Veteran, that has an orthopedic problem. I am a PRIME example. Furthermore, I asked a few WHY they decided… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@BMCL, you are also correct in your experience, these so called doctors are lacking qualifications, knowledge and experience and they are performing C & P examinations????? The fat C & P files are just ridiculous and is used to legitimize their examination of the Veterans condition. You are right on with what you stated.

namnibor
namnibor
Meanwhile, we Veterans on Disability Comp. received a Cost Of Living Adjustment of .03% this year, not even a full percentage point…and these hacks can play with Billion$ like it’s a Monopoly Money printing press…sickening rope a dope shell game that since Shulkin approved, will certainly continue if he’s confirmed. It’s high time for fresh political meat on the Congressional Veterans Committees. Isaakson is one amongst a herd of dinosaur bureaucrats that needs to retire already…McCain as well. Sleepless nights…hate… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

and by the time they took out for Medicare part A and B I didn’t get anything so they gave themselves a raise

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

But I don’t see malice here, just the basic inefficacy of American bureaucracy.”

Do you agree? NO. THE RAT’S KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE CHEESE IS

Dennis
Dennis
There are 18.8 million living US vets as of 1015. Ten Billion dollars divides up to over $531 for each vet. My non VA clinic charges $95 for a complete office visit and accepts walk ins. On average when I was healthy it was rare that I went every year, but assuming one trip per year at least, top off with drugs and a few lab tests and this still leaves enough left over for ice cream and movies. What… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

2015 is correct date. 1015 AD is the current medical standard at VA.

Ex va
Ex va

@ Dennis, ROFL!!!!!

namnibor
namnibor
1015 AD? Here I thought leeches were advanced medicine with the VA’s Telemedicine where once you tell them what’s wrong with you the VA witch Dr. on other end of screen pushes a button which releases a trap door above the Veteran in the Telemedicine Orgasmatron Booth, where ample amounts of leeches fall onto Veteran along with a few chicken bones and some zombie dust to finish it off for good measure. Hell, the VA had to work themselves up… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

Just to be fair, judging by the pot bellies seen wandering the halls of VA and in their photos vs. the folks at my rural clinic, then by the pound VA workers seem like a bargain. Plus at my clinic the workers step outside to excersize instead of utilizing the facility gym, and I rarely have seen non-VA healthcare folks play Hungry Hippo. They just can’t pull off the look. It is all a matter of perspective.

Lem
Lem
Choice funds were also transferred to tele medicine stay at home mom docs and the purchase of “truck Clinics” in order to subvert veterans otherwise qualified from actually receiving face to face clinical care. I believe tele medicine is o k if the physician has first established a face to face in clinic knowledge of their patients. Blind tele medicine misses too much. The one I saw made erroneous assumptions and wrote a false history to back up those assumptions.… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

HEY LEM DO YOU STILL GET PROGRESS REPORTS MY VA HOSPITAL DOESN’T GIVE THEM OUT ANYMORE

Ex va
Ex va

@ OLDMARINE, they have to give you all copies of anything in your records. You have to sign a release.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Do I see a “shell game” or “malice”? Not only no, but “Hell NO!” What I see is pure and simple “GREED!” One of the “Seven Deadly Sins!” What I also know is, that sooner or later, persons usually get caught up in their own little spider web. Only, by that time, they’re so wrapped up in the corruption, there’s no way out. Just like when President Hoover, in the 1920’s, caught his “poker buddy” he put in charge of… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

I did something wrong once in the Marine Corps. The Sergeant Major explained in detail at elevated volumn what the infraction was. He determined that the reason for my error was that I had not run for miles and miles and miles…. so he corrected that. For many, many weeks, he corrected that error.

Bill
Bill

And I will bet $10.00 you never made the same error in judgement ever again.

Dennis
Dennis
@Bill I think people have this whole idea of what a SecVA should be kind of wrong. We know what West Point gave us in that position. We know what Harvard business types bring to the table. How about the following letter, drafted for POTUS to sign. To: SecNav, Marine Corps Commandant From: POTUS General, You are ordered to reassign all of your non-combat essential Seargents Major to a special detail. They will travel to each state and reside for… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Better have one of those poop canons for each of the VA Facilities so that when the “mission is accomplished” the poop canons can be switched-on and left on a few weeks…just to be sure.

91Veteran
91Veteran
Crazy Elf, I keep thinking Trump is eventually going to get around to the VA. The problem as I see it right now is that there is such a shitstorm of things swirling in DC over his cabinet picks, executive orders, etc., all of which the media are throwing a hissy fit over, there is nothing left for veterans to be heard. At some point, we will get past this current circus. Then they will discover veterans and the VA…and… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
The real elephant trying to hide in the room at VA is the idea that they are unfixable. They all believe it or they all perpetrate the idea as evidenced the statement from the SecVA nominee – he diverted money for the greater good. They are so very broken that Congressional directive takes a back seat to his heroic efforts at keeping Titanic afloat. Let me ask you how many bought that as evidence? Let us suppose that Donald Trump… Read more »
Bill
Bill
@Dennis along with sergent majors please suggest to the POTUS to put in a side order for some Master Chiefs just in case one of the sergent majors need to nurse a hang over or just plain has a gaf attack. They are both from the same mold just not the same uniform. I remember once I asked to dig a hole from mud hole filled water and move said mud and water to another location by a super kind… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
I have been watching several different news sources this morning and *not one peep* yet about today’s 2:30 VA Sec. nominee Shulkin being talked about…ONLY the Supreme Ct. nominee is being talked about. Why do I mention this? Because it strikes me that we Veterans and our ongoing plight with the Dept. of Veteran Affairs is apparently either NOT “newsworthy enough” or that it’s absolutely no coincidence that just about ANYTIME anything with the VA comes-up, something ELSE ALWAYS shadows… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@namnibor, right on!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I noticed that all day long, namnibor. Seems the MSM and even the “alt-right news organizations” are lacking in reporting the truth about VA.
Seems like we’ve become an after thought!

91Veteran
91Veteran
Nam, I was thinking along the same lines with my comment above. So much going on that overshadows what is happening with the VA. I am sure there are many in DC that like it exactly like that. It reminds me of congressional hearings in the early 90’s on Gulf War veterans. Nobody in the hearing room except a few congressman who stayed after their opening statement (many did not), a few government officials…usually VA to keep track of things,… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Namnibor, @Ex va, @Crazy elf, @cj, @Dennis, @Seymore Klearly, @91Veteran, @Peterson, @Jo3n – Hey folks. The media are dumb fucks. They know what is going on with the VA. The only thing that I know they missed, in the whole time providing news, is the prediction of the come kid, President Trump. There forecasting of a winner went straight out the window and the window was open waiting for it. Dump fucks controlled by the left and fucking helmets [dick… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
@ ANutterVet, i am so sorry you are having this bs problems with the va and they are not addressing your pain. You are smarter and more descent of a human than all these va jerk offs could be. I believe things are going to get better for you. You need someone to talk to or just rant, you do it here. We will listen. It angers me that you are suffering like this and not getting the treatment you… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va – Thanks Brother for standing by me. I’ve been trying to keep this under control for well over a year. I even gave them a heads up that I needed help. They make promises, then renege on them. I keep on telling them, I don’t want any more opiates, please give me the muscle relaxer that has been proven to work for me. The VA even prescribed it to me, once. If you mention Carisoprodaol [Soma], immediately they’ll… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, if you need something done or letters sent let us know how we can help. We can figure something out to get you help somehow. Don’t like you being in this anxiety and it is not right for you to go thru all of this.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – Thank you my Brother. I’ll keep you up-to-date. Thank God for comedy on tv.

Jennifer
Jennifer
The choice program is horrible. I have been trying to get authorizations to go through in the dealings of cancer care through an approved choice doctor I already have with choice. I have spent over 30 hours on the phone with them about three test I need as urgent three and a half weeks ago. Everytime I call I get a different answer. “We have your authorization and working on it” “we don’t have it at all” “it’s been approved… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

If a state overseen insurance company in Oregon jacked you around like that the State of Oregon would bring the hammer down and your net worth would be considerably higher. And that is before your civil lawsuit was filed.

Ask the new POTUS if his agency is always going to be a second rate system for those who have not betrayed America? (maybe even coming in LAST PLACE compared to us dope smokers here in Oregon…. )

NavInfPO6
NavInfPO6
Jennifer Here is what I do when dealing with the VA and their Choice program. Our local, tiny, VA clinic doesn’t even have an X-Ray machine on site. Needless to say, that really limits the amount of medical care that one can receive at any given time. I am currently dealing with cancer of my right kidney and a fatty liver with a Lesion on it. Probably due to extreme, heavy exposure to all the different types of Agent Orange.… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Jennifer, Imagine how many millions have been taken from Choice to hire these people working the call centers. Funding paying for nitwits at the VA, etc. …only for Choice to reimburse those providers at rates equal to or less than Medicare, if they are paid at all. Is it nothing more than a scam. I went through the same thing. Called repeatedly, got the same BS excuses time after time. I was eventually told about the “Choice champions” that were… Read more »
cj
cj
@ANutterVet: Brother, I am sorry your in pain, inside and out, I wish I was there with you. I know how frustrating all this is for you. Get those thoughts out of your head, they are not doing you any good. It’s those kind of thoughts that makes those hungry hungry hippos win, and we sure don’t want those f ing bastards to win anything. It is when I see post’s like yours that angers me because I hurt with… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj – Thanks for the love Brother. When you get all tuned up and share your analogical humor, it gets me laughing so much, its like taking a big hit of seedless Hawaiian weed, whereas your testicles feel like their moving up into your abdomen. And, yes, the need to legalize weed for medical purposes instead of putting it in a Schedule 1 Controlled Substance. Too much research shares how beneficial it can be for those who don’t respond to… Read more »
cj
cj
@ANutterVet: I hear ya, just know you are definately smarter than they are. I always tell people, veterans or not, you have to be proactive in taking care of your own health. Never believe any doctor, va, or private. You have to get other opinions and research what your issues are, and then find a doctor that not only listens, but is with you 100% As for the graphics, just google: ascii art_____________<——insert "middle finger" etc. Then when you find… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Thanks for you concern. I guess finding the right doctor is like finding the right woman. I’m going to check out the digital stick pencil art. In the mean time, I going to take a clonazepam, relax, and wait until the eye lids get a little lower. We’ll see what happens. Many times anxiety overpowers the meds too. Powerful stuff that adrenaline.

cj
cj
@ANutterVet: Hey look, it’s the new V.A. Secretary. __,__ .–. .-” “-. .–. / .. \/ .-. .-. \/ .. \ | | ‘| / Y \ |’ | | | \ \ \ 0 | 0 / / / | \ ‘- ,\.-““ “”-./, -‘ / `’-‘ /_ ^ ^ _\ ‘-‘` .–‘| \._ _ _./ |’–. /` \ \.-. / / `\ / ‘._/ |-‘ _.’ \ / ; /–~’ | \ / .’\|.-\–. \ \ / .’-.… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Looks just like ’em. All this is.

Ex va
Ex va

@ cj, @ ANutterVet, thanks for the graphic info. @A NutterVet, are you ok? I think you handled yourself well today dealing with the va. Is your anxiety bad now? You have meds for that? I need you guys to be funny, it really helps me a lot at times. @ ANutterVet, i am worried about you and your PTSD. Are you ok?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va, @cj- Yeah Brother, I’m trying to chill. I took a clonazepam earlier. Only have a few left. VA MH won’t see me for 1 1/2 months. I just seen my PCP, but they won’t communicate with each other to get me more meds to give me relieve. And, MH has already prescribed this med to me before. I’m trying to find the humor, but its a very big struggle. I usually with drawl for a bit, settle down,… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, glad to hear it. I go on YouTube a lot and watch stupid things to make me laugh.

cj
cj
@AnutterVet, @Ex va: Hey look the va just hired another doctor. ,,,,, (o o) /. .\ (_____) : : ##O## ,,,: :,,, _)\ : : /(____ { \ / ___} \/) ((/ (_______) : : : : / \ / \ “”” “””
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – They didn’t hire any new doctors. They’re imposters, the VA knows it, and they still get paid. What’s up with this.

cj
cj

That’s one fucked up duck……..quack quack quack.

Ex va
Ex va

@ cj ROFL!!! LOL!!

cj
cj

The simpler the ascii art the better it comes out, so pick a basic one you don’t have to mess with, that looks good when you post it in your comment before hitting post.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – That came across my mind after viewing ones that you sent that were a little more complex to the others. I’m going to chill for a bit. Need to rest my mind and to recalculate. Wives asleep, dog is down, and I’m a wandering wondering mind.

cj
cj

I got a buck for a fuck, a fuck for a buck and 15 bucks for a fucked up duck.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Brother, I don’t want to be the to tell you this, but you got fucked by a fucking duck. ROFL

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: OMG I think that makes it a threesome!!!! woo hoo checks another one off the bucket list.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet, @Ex va: I gotta go and find some duck tape to fix my quack, after that…………….I feel soooo cheap now!!!!! Goodnight, and God Bless.

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, you made me spit out my water i was drinking. LMAO!!!

Peterson
Peterson
The difference I found in using the VA for the last 12 years is that the time patients are alloted for primary care visits have been reduced to 15min From 45min. The patient gets to have their BP taken, gets asked maybe two questions, and the Dr spends the rest of the time typing. Very little is accurately entered into the system. The doctors are highly stressed and when given the chance to explain, they say they’re not given the… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
This unfortunately is becoming the same case in the private medical utilizing Medicare here…the only difference is the Drs. are actually seeing THAT MANY patients a day whereas the same Specialist M.D. at the VA would be lucky to see -3- patients a day. Just learned a great advanced cancer Dr. left my neighbor’s facility to work at the VA. The VA he was hired at does not have this advanced cancer treatment and he went to work for the… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ namnibor, do you want to know the real number that Veterans where being seen at the care line i worked??? The average was two Veterans a week…. They took breaks, pointless meetings and bothered clinicians who were actually working. It makes you sick when D.C. Knows all of this and refuses to take any action…

Jo3n

It’s beginning to sound as if we’re screwed,….again. Personally, I’m feeling that anger rise. When nothing changes, nothing changes. For myself, words aren’t working. I’m just hearing excuses from the VA. Very much sounds like this SWAMP is overrun with TOXIC WASTE. They can’t fix it, because Congress isn’t giving them enough MONEY to buy other things. Again, nothing about the Veterans. How many decades do dying Veterans have to listen to the same s..t? SHUT THE VA DOWN.

Just Another Veteran
Just Another Veteran

I’m hoping that when Trump fired Sally Yates, it turned a few head honcho heads. Maybe we’ll see some proactive changes now merely on Shulkin perhaps secretly operating on fear while trying to show the boss he’s willing to take the bull by the horns.

Jo3n
Jo3n

@Ben, This Phil Carter guy says that what the VA is doing makes sense? Does this mean, to THEM, that all these suicides and the Veterans wait times are just fallout? It may make sense to THEM, but, I’m in the dying category. It doesn’t make sense to me. @Seymour, please don’t tell me this makes sense to you..

cj
cj

Anyone here with a twitter accout? If so could I ask you to contact Trey Gowdy: Trey Gowdy (@TGowdySC) · Twitter. And post to him a link to Bens blog, and also include in that tweet a copy on Lisa a’s post, as follows:

Lisa a January 31, 2017 at 12:43 am
My husband did not take the survey because he died waiting on treatment.

Thank you in advance.

namnibor
namnibor
Right now, White House Press Briefing, using questions also from 4 designated SKYP connections, and not *one* mention of or question about the confirmation hearing for VA Sec. David Shulkin, not even anyone in protest to Shulkin…this is what kind of worries me is the unremarkable attention even given to it…on the macro/micro scale that pretty much trickles down to the way we Veterans have felt as far as accountability and the VA…*crickets* * * ~ Anyone else find this… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ namnibor, the press has not done their jobs on reporting on abuses about the va. I think so much is going on with the changes within the government right now the news isn’t picking up on half of all of it. I do not think the public knows all the truth behind the scandals. News agencies are not reporting. I am tired of the lies.

namnibor
namnibor

“DOVER AIR BASE, Del. (AP) — President Trump makes unannounced trip to honor the return of fallen US Navy SEAL killed in Yemen raid.”

(which I find really interesting seeing how a Federal Prison in Delaware was overtaken by inmates and was still on lock-down.) Still no news about Shulkin because Iran stuff also all over news.

namnibor
namnibor

Seems the inmates at prison in Delaware have taken a lot of hostages, some even fellow inmates and all guards…the inmates are upset over “sentencing”…I’m going out on a limb and thinking the inmates are butthurt snowflakes that did not receive full Pardons from Obama. 🙂

Every prison in Delaware is on lockdown now while Pres. Trump honors return of Navy SEAL in Delaware.

Dan F
Dan F

Let’s all not forget they also gave huge raises to all the medical staff to perform the same crappy job they did before.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I just went onto the link Ben gave to watch the hearing on Shulkin.
It was blank. Said it “…wasn’t available at this time, try again later!”
Has anyone else tried?

cj
cj

Crazu elf, mine is working fine, try again.

cj
cj

VSO sheking his head up and down when said he won’t allow the healtcare to be privatized.

namnibor
namnibor

VSO’s are bobble heads.

NavInfPO6
NavInfPO6
Ben. Thanks (I think) for providing the link to watch one BIG liar (Schulkin), telling lies to the committee who may authorized his appointment as Sec of the VA. ADDITIONALLY, watching all these committe politicians sitting there and lying to the American public because they know this hearing is being televised. Just more lies than I could stand for one day. I also have to add that all the VSO’s who were sitting there, in support of their hero ~… Read more »
WR
WR

And perhaps they know the path forward, are well informed, and have seen the beginnings of the plan in operation and are aware and you aren’t. What lies? All politics is crap, but we need someone with a plan that will work. I believe the MyVA plan devised by numerous outside experts with McDonald and Gibson will.

WR
WR
Will definitely be watching the confirmation hearings. Am hopeful that Shulkin, who was a part of the leadership team, can continue the MyVA that was part of the revolutionary plan drafted just 2 years ago by a team of outside experts. More than 20 VSO’s- not just Isakson- wanted McDonald and Gibson to remain to continue the program to fruition. With an organization this huge, my guess would be at least a few more years. Many VA facilities are great,… Read more »
BILL
BILL

You know it be polite if you first introduced yourself as va managenment before you post. Never minda it is way obvious you pos.

Keep talking the company line you turd while vets die

WR
WR

Guess you just can’t handle someone disagreeing with your point of view! (Were YOU part of the Berkeley riots last night?) Am not VA management- you turd! So you know more than all the VSO’s?-amazing

namnibor
namnibor

This is like watching the screen of that game “Angry Birds” with all the “Piggies” being the VSO’s all behind Shulkin, making piggy grimaces and grunts. While Isaakson gargles a gravy boat while talking…what a vile bunch of bureaucrats!

Shulkin is a BIG YES MAN. Pretty smooth talker. Tele Mental Health…not a fan here.

Ex va
Ex va

In the conformation hearing Bernie Sanders asked years before if the VSO’s thought that once Veterans get into the system they stated that Veterans received good care????!!!!!????? Unanimously VSO’s stated that Veterans received good or better care than what the private sector has available!!!!????????!!!!!!!!! Who are they talking to??? Va administrators???

namnibor
namnibor

When their heads are all up the VA’s asses, of course it’s the VA they get their stats from.
It brought to mind that scene in ‘Christmas Vacation” where Chevy Chases’ boss comes walking through with his entourage of people far up bosses ass and as they walk by Chevy Chase tells them to go f^ck themselves, et al…as goes the VSO Dino’s behind Shulkin.
I fear the scab on the problems at the VA is still infected.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Hey, namnibor, are you smelling that rancid smell of rotten cabbage?

namnibor
namnibor

Yep. Lots of swamp gas concentrated in that chamber today.

namnibor
namnibor

Yes, I also smell THAT rotten cabbage you are referring to. I think it’s of the VSO variety. Yep, it’s a turd with a funny hat. 🙂

Ex va
Ex va

@ namnibor<<<<<<<too funny..VSO turd with funny hat!!!! :o!!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Just got to watch, finally, five (5) representatives question “Shithead” Shulkin. It was a waste of time, in my opinion. No one questioned him on the who, what, where, how and why veterans receive such poor healthcare. Not one of them brought up all the egregious acts committed against veterans. One did come close to it. That was Rep. Moran (R-Ks). He talked about the opioid problem. But didn’t continue his line of questioning. Who was that idiot sitting behind… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Shulkin was more worried about being inconvenienced by his super bowl party being interrupted in order to provide answers to committee. I wonder how many future golf games will take priority over addressing serious problems at the VA? Patterns, always watching.

Jo3n
Jo3n
I found it to be better than I expected. I have watched appointments for a while now At least, they did get real close to our truths about the VA. IFFFFFFF, they give Shulkin the power to fire bad employees, and Shulkin follows through? Many problems actually were addressed, kinda. What I found sickening, was the VSO’S. I’m amazed that the VA thinks the VSO’S are on OUR side. The Choice Card appears to be useable? I think? But, like… Read more »
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