Parking Lot Suicides: Veterans Found Dead In VA Parking Lots

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Parking Lot Suicides

Over the past month, multiple veterans have been found dead in cars in various parking lots at VA hospitals across the country.

Most recently, police found one dead veteran in the parking lot of the Memphis VA after two days in the car.

The previous week, another veteran’s body was found outside Durham VA in the parking lot there.

That veteran, Paul Shuping, was found dead five days after he killed himself in his car on VA property. Shuping reportedly fought for his benefits over many years and ultimately killed himself after numerous failed attempts.

A few weeks ago, still another veteran killed himself in his car at a VA facility within the Phoenix VA health system. That suicide never made the news.

What we have seen is a nationwide attempt spearheaded by VA to limit messaging about suicide while covering up incidents that occur on federal property like in the parking lot.

So apparently, veterans wishing to make a message out of their sacrifice need to do so outside the literal walls of the federal government to get their message heard by the American public.

Without this deliberate planning, VA will be allowed to cover up the suicide by withholding all information about the suicide. But while on state land, state police and press will be required to disclose what happened, including stories covering veterans committing suicide.

I encourage all veterans to seek competent mental health care when feeling suicidal.

However, I do not endorse all mental health services provided by VA until those services comport to national standards including fair disclosure of suicide to the press.

For those veterans willing to sacrifice themselves for the purpose of making a statement about VA failing to help you, be sure you consider your logistics after consulting with your VA mental health professional.

Do not commit suicide. Our world will not be better off without you. Instead, turn your story into a message for American about the value of your life and how VA could better serve its heroes.

Go public with the press, and force VA to give you the services you deserve.

Sources:

http://wncn.com/2017/03/06/veterans-suicide-in-durham-va-parking-lot-highlights-problem/

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/34713247/man-found-dead-in-veterans-affairs-parking-lot

rick b
rick b
Sorry to hear about veteran suicide.. but I guess I am missing something,,,, like how does anyone know why these veterans committed suicide, unless a note was left behind. A lot of vets have a hard time getting benefits, but the greatest majority of them never think of suicide. I don’t want to sound dismissive, but if someone is going to commit suicide, they are going to do it , and no one can control the place of suicide.. Really,… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
The suicide numbers in the Veteran population in this country is consider an epidemic. It is that serious. I know the word “despair” may sound abstract to someone who has never faced adversity at such a level that one cannot comprehend it or problem solve it, without the help of medications or another way of intervention such as therapy. In my opinion the Veterans are leaving a message by ending their lives in a va clinic or medical center parking… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

You mention chronic pain. If we had congressional oversight that gave a damn they would be reviewing the number of suicides, and whether these veterans were on prescriptions of any kind that were either cut off or changed suddenly.

Given the piss poor way the VA handles any prescription, I strongly believe there are a number of suicides where it would be found their prescriptions were either cut off or changed abruptly.

namnibor
namnibor
Proper titration ONTO and OFF any antidepressant or benzo or so-labeled “Mood Stabilizers” is oh-so-important. Not all VA Psych or PCP’s follow this and guess what? Even while titrating up or even off these medications that play hit or miss or hit and hit and HIT on the brain, actually can severely aggravate PTSD/Anxiety/Depression, then you also need to take into consideration what other meds a Vet is on and another thing the VA Psych Hacks routinely ignore, is even… Read more »
james gallegos
this guy has on blinders and will never be able to see the truth. I have a brother who is the same way, you can show him evidence and all he say is well ! And he has a college education. Well is not an answer. He knows it gets my Goat and will play the Devils advocate just to get a rise out of me. It use to work, not anymore. He may have a piece of paper saying… Read more »
Uwasa Wahya
Uwasa Wahya

A mental health “professional” can’t understand what we go through how can anyone else. How do you explain something that there are no adequate words for when the person you are trying it to has no point of reference. I was told by the VA that all they do is prescribe medication. In the two to three years I was seen by the VA’s mental health clinic I never saw the same shrink twice.

Lem
Lem
Uwasa, you don’t say where you went to the VA but my guess is a VA connected to a Land Grant University Medical School. All you got to see is residents. One supervisor who decided what each resident should find in their assessment of you. If you change to a clinic a little away from the main VA you may a little better luck but not much since Obama Care opened up psychiatry to the masses instead of just the… Read more »
james gallegos

That’s so you cant blame just one person. Have you ever asked the question who did this and everyone say NOT ME !

There are a lot of NOT ME’S in the VA.

Bill
Bill
My daily life is filled with dispair. I have attempted to waste myself multiple times. The va has labled my attempts as lethal, i guess I just suck at it. Now that my wife is more than likely at the end of her life i can not see my future with out her in it. I promised her a cruise when she gets better, i can smell the drink from my couch and i pray that i can fullfill my… Read more »
Kevin Phelps
Kevin Phelps

Veterans go to the ER in distress and suicidal and the ER turns them away, telling them to comr Vets are committing suicide on VA grounds. Guess you missed the one who set himself on fire right outside the ER due to being turned away by the VA.

91Veteran
91Veteran
Kevin, not sure what you meant by “guess you missed the one who set himself on fire”, but that was not missed by Ben. He wrote about it when it happened and quite a few commenters have mentioned it on a number of Ben’s posts. It was a good example of the VA stomping on any news of suicide. 4 days after it happened, it was only mentioned in local media and here. Like the one in Albuquerque and the… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

Others we may NOT have even heard of.

91Veteran
91Veteran
Rick, if you read the article at the link Ben posted, that vet had been fighting for “benefits” for years. It says he was getting care at the VA, but who knows how good the care was since Durham is the VA where they let vets in extreme pain lie on the floor in their ER for hours, then lie about contacting the veterans wife who took the pictures. The article says he was fighting for full benefits. Nothing is… Read more »
Lem
Lem

My bet he was a victim of the Lobbyists that backed the Kastl Study or the Yale Medical School Study. 60s probably means Vietnam Veteran. Cerebral Malaria or TBI benefits that only goes to current war veterans. A life of poverty, much of it on the street or living in his car.

Another organic brain syndrome victim miss diagnosed as “adjustment disorder”.

rick b
rick b

91Veteran,

I read the article, but nothing there convinces me that the va had anything to do with his suicide. Don’t get me wrong I have had more than my share of the VA shaft so I am not really defending the va, just not willing to accept speculation.

Lem
Lem
rick, that is because you have never walked in the shoes of a TBI anosognosia victim. You have no frame of reference. You don’t know about the refusal to diagnose and treat because the VA would then have to pay compensation. You have no idea what it is like to have your reality check system go amok. Feeling the only way to get rid of the devil inside that sabotages everything you try to do until you decide the only… Read more »
james gallegos

Speculation, Speculation is used by the VA everyday, they speculate that a veteran has or is or could be disruptive in the Future and with that speculation they proceed to punish those veterans. No facts, no nothing, just speculation.

You may not use it, But they sure do !

Hell they can even admit they had or have any proof of the veterans ever being disruptive and they still punish the veterans. Now that’s not Speculation, its Fact.

Josh Meehan
Josh Meehan
I understand your point Rick and hope it remains a mystery you ‘don’t buy’. It’s the VA trying to put out a camp fire with Kleenex. They have no idea how to identify the deficiency/discrepancy in the brain accurately enough to prescribe the appropriate treatment. It’s a shit show. I know, I’m in the middle of it now. They just keep throwing pills at me and hope something works. My Dr.’s name is Seuss, too. That’s my favorite part. I… Read more »
Thelma Johnson
Thelma Johnson

nothing to buy. everyone is not the same. veterans are not cared for like they should be. How many jackoffs do we have in congress who have never served in the military, making decision and don’t understand. the sacrifices our men and women in uniform make. We owe them the best of care just like congress gets. Mental health is a part of it.

cj
cj

@Thelma Johnson:Thelma, I don’t think our politicians are getting the mental help they need 🙂 We should think of renaming the House of Representatives to simply, The Nut House, The Senate to The Coo Coo’s Nest, The Whitehouse to The Padded Cell, and the Supreme Court to The Court of Suffering Succotache, and with that I will now “Exit stage right”

james gallegos

Thank you 2 + 2 = 4 no matter which way you look at it. Some people just can’t get it. Where their is smoke there is fire.

kent
kent

With VA lack of assistance we could say this is practically assisted suicide. We might as well renamed these parking lots “Kevorkian lots”.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

speaking of parking lots KENT my VA hospital replaced all of the good lighting of them with new poles with security cameras in them, for your security of course. then you get the VA barney fifes running around in there SUV’S in about a 3 acre parking lot with their new speed radar gun on . it sets off my radar detector off thats how i know they have them,

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

every mental so called health professional i ever met needed a straight jacket for themselves they are the real nut-jobs

namnibor
namnibor
You’re onto something there. In college I was doing a double major in Psych and Art to ultimately go into Art Therapy (never made it that far), and I also had my on-campus work-study job in same building of the Psych Dept. and I used to smoke cigs back then so got to know a few of the well-respected Psych Professors and the very head of that dept. told me that almost all Psych Dr’s go into some aspect of… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I need to add that they wouldn’t know if a baby farted or shit their pants even after the diaper was opened

Brian george
Brian george

When the time comes the parking lot of the Va hospital is actually the best spot, at least they can “part me out”, while my organs can still be donated

james gallegos

How about a VA cop following and killing them in the parking lot. and then call it suicide. Why not they do everything else. You see it all the time, where its later found out a VA employee was behind wrongdoing’s.

cj
cj
Ben, Thank you for saying what you did. I hate hearing about this over and over and over again. I don’t like losing any veteran. This needs to stop, these veterans lives do matter, and your right, the world will NOT be better off without them. SHAMEEEEE ON THE DAMN VA FOR COVERING UP THESE VETERANS DEATHS AND REDUCING THEIR LIVES TO NOTHING. We all know that is how they veiw us………….as nothing. This is just more proof for the… Read more »
Big Biz
“””MALUM IN SE”””….My brother vet’s I seek to offer an ear to hear your heart felt story regard any and all situations with your dealings with the “”V.A.””… I “beg” and pray that you “”NEVER”” consider taking your own ‘life’…please call me on the [email protected] 810-662-6929 any time night or day!!! I’ll talk with you for as long as it takes??… Im very serious and although Im not a trained mental health professional Im just another vet with a story… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ Big Biz, God Bless you for your kindness and consideration.

Bill
Bill

@big biz…i was also in in 1974. We are 1 area code apart…989 here although i still carry my old 517 area code

Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
@Bill, I have been meaning to write you since I saw your posts. Know that I am sending positive thoughts of love and healing to you and your beautiful wife, and I have been since I read your posts. I will be planting Azalea in my yard in honor of you, and your beautiful Okinawan flower. I was stationed in Okinawa for a while, and the island is close to my heart. I will keep you both, and your loved… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
The VA will more than likely come out and attempt to contain this with some very special VA form of f^ckery. That form of f^ckery could be an extreme kneejerk response such as, “Only VA Employees Allowed Parked In VAMC Parking Lots”, and “All Veterans Must Be Accompanied By VA Police”, or “The VAMC Parking Lots Have Been Replaced With VA TelePsychMedicine Booths, Please Take A Number Someone From India Will Be With You Next Month, Please Hold”, or “All… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
Another extreme illogical response by the VA would to spend oodles of money on signs and all former designated smoking locations are now “VA Designated Veteran Suicide Areas”…spared no expense, made to look like a Rolls Royce and a VA Telemedicine Psych Hack will assist you to your journey to the VA Canteen Cafeteria to loaf with the meat after your selection within the booth of your own demise. Spared absolutely no expense. Green Button: Carbon Monoxide with a berry… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
I expect a guard station at the entrance of every VA where your vehicle is fully checked underneath for bombs and searched for any kind of weapon before a vet can even park. Along with additional Barneys hired to peek in every window of every vehicle. After a short term of peeping toms, the union will get involved because the walking to each vehicle will be too much, so remotely piloted vehicles with cameras will be mandated. Vets from Iraq… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
Nah, the VA will go all-out drones because the VA AFGE Union Hacks will have spent a few million on supplying all the Barney Fife’s with FitBits which show union personnel are walking and working more than 3 Disruptive Behavior Committee storm troopers and will require a 3x $$$ income raise for the Barney’s to actually do their work or be replaced with a BILLION $ VA Drone program called, “Anti Behavioral Committee Disruptive Drone Program (ABCDDP), where the drones… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Update: The Parking Lot Drones will be loaded with hydrofluoric acid, not carbonic acid.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor- I see why the drones are loaded with hydrofluoric acid, this acid although weaker than carbonic acid, hydrofluoric acid is more corrosive. Good choice. Another comment in the section from the Sicko Scientists.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor- Sorry, I went above your head and cancelled the shipment of hydrofluoric acid, and instead the drones will be loaded with fluoroantimonic acid. This acid is the product of mixing hydrogen fluoride and antimony pentafluoride in equal ratios. Using this acid, will most likely guarantee that all traces of any items targeted for removal will never be discovered.

Bruce M.
Bruce M.
I never understood the logic of contacting the VA suicide hotline, when the VA bureaucratic bullshit is the primary cause of suicides. I contacted this bogus “800” number, only to find someone who didn’t appear caring enough, didn’t really want to hear your problem and on a time limit at the other end. Then, you’re scheduled for a counseling session with the same people who are the cause of your tendencies. One time I called and was scheduled for a… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Everyone, so far, has said some profound words concerning “Veterans Suicide”! Whether it’s 20 each day, or 22 each day, makes no difference. It also makes no damn sense! The VHA’s nationwide are ill equipped to deal with, or handle, such healthcare. The reason, in my opinion, is due to VHA’s NOT having properly licensed mental health professionals! They are, again in my opinion, ill equipped and NOT professionally trained! “Shithead Shulkin” and others in the VA’s nationwide have (falsely)… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@Crazy elf- THANKS for saying that. I was biting my lips but it PISSED ME OFF that FIVE DAYS and not even ANOTHER VET in those 5 days could have done a wellness check? THIS also shows the Barney Fife like security on the very grounds the VA takes. Want to BET those 5 days the VA Police were too busy carrying out Disruptive Behavior Committee duties? Maybe burying the evidence of the previous parking lot suicide? Shame also on… Read more »
Angry retired veteran
Angry retired veteran
You know the VA is still screwed up when us disabled combat veterans who got wounded or injured in combat zones, placed in the army,marine wounded warrior program or Navy/Air Force medical hold after many surgeries and treatments still have to FIGHT administratively for our DISABILITY PERCENTAGE which both the military and the VA makes it hard to obtain. The Army, Marines & VA are the WORST when it comes to giving a decent disability percentage. THEY make you FIGHT… Read more »
Uwasa Wahya
Uwasa Wahya

Hell they are students. All VAMCs are training facilities. That is why I never saw the same mental health “Doctor” twice. Instead of being worked on by licensed Chiropractors you are being adjusted by “adjustors”. Your cardiologist is most likely a PA. Or the ER doctor is a scared of his own shadow resident.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

From;
“Military.com”
via; “The Military Advantage Blog’
titled:

“VA Plans to Test Several New Ways to Limit ‘Choice’ Plan Costs”

Posted by: Tom Philpott
dated: Mar. 9, 2017

The whole article is filled with bullshit!

namnibor is correct! Read the last paragraph! “Shithead Shulkin” WILL, more likely than not, be asking for MORE TAXPAYERS MONIES!
The asswipe doesn’t, in my opinion, give a fuck about veterans! He’s listening to the VSO’s!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
P.S. The reason I say it’s bullshit, is because IF “Shithead Shulkin” was serious about healthcare for veterans, he’d get behind hiring well qualified healthcare professionals. Not these ones that don’t know how to tie their shoes, or can’t even type into the veterans progress report “factual information”! All these reprobates know how to do is collect a fuckin’ paycheck. I’ll bet someone has to sign it for them. Most probably only know how to make an “X” on it!… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

P.P.S.
It’s a fuckin’ Friday. I wonder what kind of BULLSHIT VA plans to put out today’s “DUMP”?

Like I said, brothers and sisters, I’m like namnibor today. NOT IN A GOOD MOOD because these VHA’s are “Playing GOD” with our lives!
Y’all know what happens when people start acting like a “GOD”! They get “Smitted by the Hand of God!”

namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf– Remember, according to Revelation, Satan is let out of the bottomless pit to torment and torture…I think the VA pretty much personifies that fulfillment of prophecy. 🙂 Satan’s Asshole is the halls of the VA.

cj
cj
@namnibor: I watched Jacobs Ladder, then of course, I had to look up BZ. I am astounded that, not only did the military use veterans as unkoning test subjects…………….but that BZ was the UN’s designation for the drug?? So it was ok with the UN to use this kind of shit in battle? Very good movie, thank you. As for todays subject, I am not going to comment any further than I already have. namnibor, you and Crazy elf are… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@cj- Glad you enjoyed that movie “Jacobs Ladder”. When you watch it again, many more important pieces of symbolism start developing and making more sense. Hint: His VA Chiropractor is actually a metaphor for ‘God’, and with that in-mind, listen to what words of wisdom the “chiropractor” always gives him at his visit. At one point you will have to question of God is even working with the VA or the VA working with or against God. Deep movie with… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Thanks for covering this Ben. I wonder if that lying whale at Durham is on a mole hunt now to find out who leaked this news to the media. I had not heard of the one in Memphis. I agree with your message. No. The world will not be better off without you. The world will be better off when you become the biggest pain in the ass your VA has ever seen. Billions of dollars are shoveled at the… Read more »
Bill
Bill
A little off topic so forgive me 2 days ago we were informed my wife is suffering from heart failure, a portion of her heart has stopped functioning do to multiple silent heart attacks and 2 valves in her heart (the biggest part of her) are leakeing badly. Trying to trump that she is also in stage 3 kidney failure. I left out that my wife MY TOKYO ROSE is Okinawan. The Okinawan diet is the healthiest on this planet… Read more »
cj
cj
@Bill: Bill, my heart goes out to you and your family, I am truly saddened over your situation. I don’t know where you are located, and I don’t want to give you false hope either. I know when my mother needed a heart, I found that the wait times in Atlanta were just 2 weeks, altho she wasn’t interested. You would have to do a new search to find what city has the fastest wait times for a heart transplant,… Read more »
Bill
Bill

Thank you

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Bill- Brother, your cry for help and understanding is never an off topic. Who better to share you sensitive situation than with other Brothers or Sisters that will try to understand what is happening in your life, and to be there for you as best as someone can. I would have posted a response earlier, but I’m dealing with my own issues [VA not hearing my cry for help, reneging on their promises, changing my treatment protocol, unnecessary stress in… Read more »
Bill
Bill

Thank you

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I’LL send a prayer your way BILL….i spent 2 tours on OKINAWA loved that ISLAND

Bill
Bill

Thank you sir

Okinawa was a double edge sword for me.

I became disabled there (PTSD non combat) and I found the love of my there.

I always have tears in my eyes latley i never knew i could be so depressed.

I thank you for your prayers for her. Btw her name is Hidaeko it translates to “fallen Azallea”

Lem
Lem
If your suggestion were working Ben, there wouldn’t be suicides in the parking lot. Do agree it should be somewhere it can’t be covered up. And your story should be found on your body along with your DD214 or your VA ID Card. Outside a media outlet would be a good choice. TV or print. Or maybe a Courthouse. My thought is the CAVA steps. Just promises so far from Trump. No Change internally. No help with the backlog. Firings… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
Fuck you VA . . . You try to put on a good front to act like you care. But we were trained to detect this type of bullshit, and that’s why we despise you so much. And, even if you do change, it most likely will take a while before we even try to trust you. In the meantime, its still fuck you all the way VA. Stop ruining many Veteran’s days. Kiss off. Hang in there my Brothers… Read more »
Don Karg
Don Karg
03/10/2017 Dear Benjamin Krause, These actions do show the weakness to in the Security at the VA Hospitals. If veterans have not been discovered for hours and many times days —how does these events reflect on the Management, Staff, and the guards? I had never heard any of these stories from Mr. Ridge [USS Yorktown] who was stationed at the Brecksville VA that the men were left in their cars for days; nor did I hear that the rooms, hallways,… Read more »
james gallegos
Ben, a person can only be pissed on so much. I know first hand what you are speaking about and I have tried to commit suicide. Any idea what it like to be shot in the Head and not know you have a traumatic Brain injury and the VA lye about my records being destroyed in the saint louis fire. You tell other people about what happened to you and because the VA denied your claim, You are called a… Read more »
Rev. Nancy Korb
Rev. Nancy Korb
I demand to know what is happening at the VA that veterans, who fought for this nation, cannot get the help and the monies they need to have a life. You virtually took their lives away when you sent them to a war they had not part in, other than to do the killing you demanded. Now that they aren’t killing on demand, those who were injured, who were guaranteed help, aren’t getting any. Some of are in pain and… Read more »
james gallegos
What is happening is simple it called Greed. The VA knows that it need money to pay their employee’s and themselves. If the VA really did their jobs, they would have to pay millions on disability and that would effect the bottom line and they do not want that. The VA knows that if they deny claim and have said it themselves, that 90 % will not refile. If they should refile, deny them again and again until they stop.… Read more »
Jo3n
Jo3n

And the beat goes on. I am guessing that if you are found dead, on the VA property, most likely no one will know how or why. Even if they left a note. How can I really know that someone at the VA didn’t kill him? I’ve not received the truth from VA for a long time now. Something is drastically wrong… God Bless the Veterans.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

VA, stop your madness. Have a heart for those that protected your rights of freedom. Stop the premeditated terroristic healthcare treatment on our Nation’s Veterans. Abide by the Hippocratic Oath, and help those Veterans that are in need. For once, start doing the right thing, take care of your fellow man or woman. Veterans are reaching out because they need compassionate care, and not circle jerking. Veteran Lives Matter Too.

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, AMEN!!!

james gallegos

Veterans lives matter too. The VA could care less. The more dead veterans the better, less paperwork, less investigations and more Hippo Time.

I am just praying they vote the Bill into law this week, then Veterans may live longer.

Quancidine Gribble
Quancidine Gribble
Everything is about to come to an end. The reason why Veterans aren’t getting paid is because our money is being re-routed to Debit Cards, while there are multiple e-Benefits Accounts being opened in Dead and Alive Veterans names. Now the problem is filing taxes when someone is filing taxes on our money. You heard me, double and triple e-Benefits Accounts and money being re-routed onto Debit Cards which are then mailed to persons who call the VA and give… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ Quancidine Gribble, sorry about your loss of your dear late husband Robert Gribble. I applaud you for your efforts to get justice for the money stolen from you. God Bless you.

cj
cj

@Quancidine Gribble: This has been going on for a very long time. I posted a video about this very thing just a few days ago. I will repost the link here “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKn6kgs45tE” Every single veteran needs to watch this video. They have been stealing from veterans for a very long time. It is still going on to this day.

cj
cj

8 out of 10 Vietnam vererans, have a derogatory code on their dd214. The VA has been stealing 4 to 5 hundred million…………..A FUCKING MONTH!!!!!!!!!!! FROM VETERANS!!!! Your do nothing congressman and senaors know all about it, and always have. Watch the video in full. Here is the link again

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKn6kgs45tE” MUST SEE.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

very eye opening CJ

james gallegos
first I am sorry for your loss. Can you please explain what you mean by all this. who did what ? Was it the VA doing wrongdoing or someone else. Who caught them. Please take your time and explain what happened and how it happened. How was the scam done ? Veterans have to know what people are doing to veterans, even those who are no longer with us. I have wondered for a long time, if veterans have been… Read more »
cj
cj
@james gallegos: James I posted a link to a video that explains in great detail what this scam is all about. Here is the link again: “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKn6kgs45tE” it’s 1 1/2 hour documantary of how the VA systematiclly steal veterans benifits, this has been going on since Vietnam and continues today with Iraq and Afgahnistan veterans. It’s a must see documentary. Watch it and you will understand a lot more, also watch the video that NightWish put up: “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHC2wH_iGYM” and you… Read more »
Rob D
I just noticed recently the VA in Milwaukee put up a “No guns allowed anywhere on VA property!” sign on all the entrances to the parking at the hospital. So now if you are carrying legally with you in your vehicle and have a small gun safe in your car to secure it, you still have to park off of the VA property, which is a pretty high crime area. Not to mention it is quite a walk to get… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
So, that’s the VA in a sense telling Veterans to go ahead and kill yourself but not on VA property, the janitors do not do parking lots. Park in a known high crime area, and yeah, all the signage now also tells the thugs lurking that easy game is coming, just wait for the Vets to park because that’s the deadringer that there’s probably a weapon in it and maybe some pills…and know what will also inevitably happen? Armed robbery,… Read more »
cj
cj
I am beginning to think that if you die on va property, they look at it as you just became part of that property. They will now put you on a shelf to liquify, since nobody saw you there, as they drive around in their newly confiscated automobile, with the windows down and the hungry hippo song blasting on the sterero. In the mean time Shill-kin puts in for a million dollar addition to the now “mobile” mental ward. Said… Read more »
Jo3n
Jo3n

Veterans not allowed to carry their licenced firearm. But, totally untrained guards can. How about AFGE stooges? If anyone in America should have a right to bear arms, who, but the Veterans? So much time and money on the wrong things. It’s maddening.

Lem
Lem

Hey, the new law lets me get a gun again. How about that?

Don’t know that I will. Can’t tell when I might have a complex partial seizure brought on by anger stress and set me into berserk state.

rick b
rick b
Today I learned that a VA c/p examiner added a new rational to her denial of my claimed knee injury. She did this 24 days after the fact. She did this by misquoting an article that she found on line, that had nothing to do with knee injuries and more to do with person who have a limp due to a shorter leg. Now I have every reason to think that she has conspired to deny me a fair c/p… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
rick b, Hopefully she’ll have copied that report word for word, (plagerism), is a bitch. The Congressman can/should report her for that. If your unaware, plagerism is illegal and can cause her a serious problem, (especially, “IF” she didn’t reference the original author!)! Do research and take the paperwork with you. If she did plagerize another author, the Congressman might be able to get her in trouble! Sorry for running on like this. It’s just Ben’s blog on suicide just… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf- You are being rather gratuitous in assuming the VA doesn’t think plagiarism is something related to The Black Plague. I am thinking in many of the VA hack’s native tongues the words ‘plague’ and ‘plagiarism’ are easily confused. 🙂

james gallegos
The VBA is not just selecting you to deny your claim. They are doing this to hundreds of thousands of veterans. Their job is to assist veterans in obtaining their deserved disabilities. But Managers like Diana Rubin’s and Kimberly Graves are getting paid big bucks to make sure this does not happen. Its their job to make sure veterans do not get their deserved disability. Why, Because it effects the bottom line. If they should go to the VA committee… Read more »
Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
I have no idea what to do. So I am going to try getting a post up here. I ended up in a wheelchair after some bad choices from the va. I told dr. quack I felt very sick and was having severe complications. dr quack told me that the meds I had been prescribed by va for 5 years were giving me problems, and I was instructed to cold turkey them all at once. All hard core medications. Among… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
@Terrified Veteran, I am sorry you are in a wheelchair, i have been there myself over disease and injury. I would continue to get a proper diagnosis, if possible outside the va healthcare system. I am sorry you are suffering and sick and that they lack compassion in treating you at the va clinics. If you could get the right diagnosis from a competent doctor you would be on a better road to healing or possibly be able to better… Read more »
Peterson, L
Peterson, L

You need to get ahold of a lawyer and Now.

cj
cj

@Terrified Veteran: As Peterson, L has said, You need to get a lawyer now. If you don’t mind, I would like to know what VA facility is treating you this way? There is no damn way, I will let some jackass phoney doctor, laugh and make fun of a vet.

Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
I have very bad reception and have been trying to post again sincy the first response to my post. Bless you all who read my post. I am afraid to put up more details. There are more terrible things that have happened at the va I cannot post on the internet. I fear for my life. But I would like to tell someone my story. I have tried to contact lawyers with no success. They dismiss me. I will see… Read more »
cj
cj

@Terrified Veteran: Write down everything, make several copies when your done. Send a copy to each of 3 close friends incase anything was to happen to you. Then, since the lawyers won’t listen, send copies to major news outlets like the NYTimes. Even send a copy to RT news. Don’t use your real name here.

Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
I moved States because I thought the va I was at before was a nad one. The va I go to now is just as bad. They are cruel, torturous, hateful, and malicious people. All of them. They play with me like a cat with a ball of string. Ignore me as I speak, tell me to calm down because they cannot preform an exam with me crying after they press my sore body. Act like I am fake being… Read more »
cj
cj
@Terrified Veteran: You should not stop taking depakote cold turkey, that can kill you. Wear a medical alert tag or carry an ID card stating that you take Depakote. Any doctor, dentist, or emergency medical care provider who treats you should know that you are taking a seizure medication. If you need surgery, tell the surgeon ahead of time that you are using Depakote. Do not stop using Depakote suddenly, even if you feel fine. Stopping suddenly may cause a… Read more »
Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
Get upset because I have severe difficulty driving over an hour to my nearest va. Especially after a full night of pain and possibly 3 hours sleep at the most. Transportation is only for people in wheelchairs they say. They issued me TWO wheelchairs at the va!!! I am beyond terrified of them. Anxiety sets my condition off whatever this is. And going to the va makes me highly anxious. If I talk to them they use it against me.… Read more »
Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
Cj, I am saying my doctor told me to cold turkey my depakote. Doctors orders. Then they would not give me more again. That was at least more than 6 months ago. Then an awful procedure and torture the next day for a different va screw up. I do not have friends. My own family will not listen to me. I tried and was told “now I am put off of what I was trying to do, and my mind… Read more »
cj
cj

@Terrified Veteran: We all listen here. No veteran is ignored on Ben’s Blog. Don’t use your real name, and they will never know your talking to us. Terrified, your never invisible here. If this is the first time you have been here, you will find that your among friends here.

cj
cj

@Terrified Veteran: It’s been 6 months since you stopped depakote? At least that is good. I thought you meant they just took you off. You made it through without losing your life. That is a good thing. Don’t be too hard on your family, they don’t know what it is like being mistreated at the va. Most everyone here does.

cj
cj

@Terrified Veteran: It’s very late here, sleep well. Will talk later. Goodnight.

james gallegos
Them telling you to go cold Turkey is very dangerous and your lucky you did not die. They did this to me while I was in the hospital on a Friday and that weekend I started hearing voices. That made me feel very paranoid, these medications have to be decreased slowly, not just stopped. I can understand how a veteran could kill themselves after their medication is taken away cold turkey. Yes, many employee’s get a kick out of veterans… Read more »
Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran

Thank you all so very much for your kindness and compassion, and taking the time to encourage others in pain. It gives me hope for people to understand. It is difficult to find hope at times. I know you understand this. A day of hope, followed by hopelesness. Back and forth back and forth. Like a ping pong ball. May the Lord bless you all!

james gallegos

One day my friend all VA employee’s whom have harmed a veterans will be fired or arrested. Same to your family. God Bless

Terrified Veteran
Terrified Veteran
@james gallegos, thank you for your kindness. For one who has seen and been through so very much misery, you retain a kindness that gives hope. Amazing person! I have trouble getting my response to go in the right area. So I just put it where it will stick. Bad nights here. Unable to move the last few nights. Eyes rolling back again. Pain. Breathing difficulties. Do you know when will it stop? Were you saying your cut from depakote… Read more »
james gallegos

If I did not have God and my family, I would have been in jail or Dead. I did not give up hope and I don’t want anyone to be hopeless.

Ben and others on this site, have given some very good information and I thank them also. Hang in there.

Timothy Erwin Ramos
You know. There are times I can reason with these poor Veterans. I have been fighting mine for an item that majorly reduces my pain, spasticity, and amount of opiates taken. Even with 3 letters of Medical Necessity from 3 different doctors. A letter from my VA doctor, Dr. Friedman, my VA Neurologist even wrote a latter stating that by not providing this item they are causing my disability and home life to worsen. They don’t care I take 240mg’s… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
@Timothy Erwin Ramos, i am sorry to hear that you are not receiving a better quality of life by being denied healthcare thru the va medical system. I do not understand how this va system can continue with Veterans across the nation saying the same things of being denied adequate care to improve and save their lives. There are so many Veterans saying the same things of being denied adequate care. This puts a Veteran in crisis and exacerbate existing… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Timothy Erwin Ramos – Your taking a total of 720mg of Oxycodone a day, plus Valium, and baclofen? The VA cutoff for opiates usually run between 105-120mg a day. How are you functioning w/o taking that much Oxycodone? If your still taking that much, its a wonder your still alive.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

your body absorbs less and less the longer your on something. thats what the medical field calls immunity

ANutterVetc
ANutterVetc

@OLDMARINE – Immunity; the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

You may be referring to Tolerance and or Addiction.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
so you can also look up the word tolerance and you come up with this ……. the ability or willingness to tolerate something so what or who gives you that ability …….i used to have a friend of mine take 4 yes 4 80 mg oxycontin yes the green ones at one time and a bottle of booze minimum a day. he died of liver failure… he said it gave him a false sense of energy..hell we would jump on… Read more »
cj
cj
@ANutterVet: At one time I was taking just about 200mg of Morphine per day. My nuerosurgion even made the comment “If I was to take that much Morphine it would kill me” I was both Morphine tolerent and addicted. I never used more than was scripted, only on rare occations, and always with the doctors okay. Doses of morphine over 200 mg are considered to be lethal to average person, meaning an opioid-naive person. However, in cases with hypersensitivity, even… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

so what the fuck is a TOXIN . i call it GMO foods and pharmaceuticals, and Tolerance i would leave to a machine shop or your local engine re-builder…….. and i bet you still be-lie-ve columbus discovered America because its still in a school book

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@OLDMARINE – Hey Bro, I’m only after clarification. You got things that you’re battling with and I’ve got mine. No need for sarcastic remarks. OLDMARINE you’re smart enough to look up what is a toxin. Blow off to someone else. Later Bro. Geesh!

namnibor
namnibor
It’s also called quite honestly, “Tolerance”. That’s also the entry mat to addiction and when meds are cut-off, some Vets go to the streets to get relief. I had a great Veteran friend that the VA decided to cut his meds at first down then stopped all together. He used to be a medical and Navy Seal, so he knew what to look for on the street with the VA’s cut-off and leaving him in pain. Unfortunately, he chose heroine… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@ANutterVet– You and I were riding the same brain wave this morning I see. 🙂

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Timothy Erwin Ramos- Some friendly advice from one Veteran to another; you seriously may want to consider changing your handle on Ben’s blog. Create a fake name. Recently and in the past, there has been VA employees trolling on Ben’s blog. Don’t give them any ammo against you or a way to tag flag your name. Just sayin.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor- Does this mean we are of the normal segment of society? I was shocked at the amount of Oxycodone Ramos stated that he was or is on. That’s deadly. Somebody is messing up, badly.

namnibor
namnibor
@ANutterVet– Personally, as much discomfort and often, chronic pain from multiple health issues, I *still* want to be able to feel a *little bit* of pain. Why? 1) It reminds me that it’s still there and not just covered-up. 2) Leaves a threshold for new possible pains to shine through. 3) I’d rather be a bit of pain than a pool of drool or choke to death on same. 4) Care not to be addicted to anything in this life.… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – 6) Regular, ok, above average, good ole guy, etc.

Did you hear where Sessions cleaned house of the leftovers from the previous administration?

namnibor
namnibor

@ANutterVet– AG Sessions cleaning house of the leftover Obamination Klingon attorneys…46 told…You Are FIRED!
We can only hope and pray the same sweeping motions are used at the VA.

The Liberal Snowflakes are crying foul on all those attorneys being let-go…funny, never heard them cry when Obama fired any form of accountability OIG’s that crossed his opinion or agenda? Hmmmm.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj – Depending on the person and what opiate state that they are in, a person may be able to tolerate 3000gr. daily. This is trouble. Oxycodone is stronger than Morphine though. Break out the stool softeners, sennoside, or miralax. Don’t try to fart. You think gas, but its actually liquefied poo. Excuse yourself. Go and clean up. Spray some air freshener. I’m eating thin crust all vegetable pizza today. I wish it was homemade. I enjoy my pizza with… Read more »
cj
cj

@ANutterVet: Your going to make me break out the Tipo 00,

cj
cj

It’s the weekend, time to sign out. Have a great weekend. Talk latter on.

namnibor
namnibor

@ANutterVet and All: “US attorney Bharara won’t resign despite Trump demand”

“http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-attorney-bharara-wont-resign-despite-trump-demand-reports/ar-AAo9aaG?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=AARDHP”

Seems some of the butthurt snowflakes have some more thawing-out to do.

91Veteran
91Veteran

No worries. He will leave once his paycheck stops or he’s thrown out on his ass.

Bill Clinton had Janet Reno fire all 93 US Attorneys on his first day in office, so the left has nothing to bitch about.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj , @Namnibor – Sorry, I had an emergency phone call from Hawaii. My good friend and college buddy’s wife aorta split open. Thankfully, she is doing ok, but it was touch and go for a couple of weeks. They had to do temporary emergency surgery, then had to get her blood pressure down below 100. Then they customized a patch for the inner wall of the aorta. My friend told me that he was billed $74k for a one… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj , @Namnibor – cj, what is Tipo OO? Olive oil of some type? Nam, they most likely will have to escort that attorney out, and show him the door.

cj
cj
@ANutterVet: Tipo OO is a finely ground flour, used mainly for thin crust pizza dough. There are a few different types, chefs, pizza, and pasta. the only difference between the three are the protien levels. The most important characteristic between all is that it is a very fine grind and is also a very high temp flour used in wood fired brick ovens. The best tasting pizza flour you will ever make a homemade pizza with. Look online for Antimo… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Oh, how could we forget the Janet Reno days? Her “large marge” face was a painful one to endure. Was like a dump truck emptied an entire load of ugly sticks on her then set on fire and put out with a rake. Medusa had a friendlier face. 🙂

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@OLDMARINE – Although, I’m very sorry about the loss of your friend. I know how that feels.

james gallegos
What I was told by Senator Bennett’s office in Colorado. The VA can do anything they want, even if the VA should admit to doing something wrong the Senators office can do nothing about it. Their own words, we can not make the VA do anything ! What they can do is make an inquiry and that it. If wrongdoing is discovered, they can and will do nothing. Our Senator’s state they have no Authority to assist veterans in anyway.… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

watch this on utube…….The Most SHOCKING Psychiatry Documentary EVER …….thats why VA quacks cant get anything right, its still one big experiment and we are the test subjects ….

NiteWish
NiteWish

Watch the CCHR Documentaries on youTube titled:
Psychiatry in the Military: The Hidden Enemy—Full Documentary

cj
cj

@NiteWish: NiteWish, how have you been?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

that was a good one i bet its going on in some form today because my denial letters always say that never happened while in service but is plain as day in my M.S.Records

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

GREAT VIDEO NiteWish

cj
cj
So many documentary’s on this very same issue It is criminal and yeT it will never stop. I agree with the end of the video, Get rid of phyciatrists. There is no difference between a phyciatrist and a damn witch doctor, with the exception that some witch doctors do use herbs that actually cure some illnesses. Reminds me of an old joke:: A mother is waiting at the airport for her daughter and new son in law. The doughter steps… Read more »
cj
cj

Signing out, having vision problems again, I can’t see what I am typing, everything is getting too blurry, Will hopefully clear up and will try again later.

Dennis
Dennis

Vets are being found dead from suicide in VA parking lots at alarming rates.

VA response? Funding to build more buildings and parking lots.

Perhaps instead my idea of funding bulldozers to turn those parking lots into playgrounds and tennis courts might better serve those who need peace? Tell me, of the two options, VA and my idea, what one is more logical under the circumstances?

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