‘Controversial’ Billboard Coming To Minneapolis
Vietnam veteran and activist Ronald Nesler is fighting back against harassment from the Federal government in a big way that is about to turn up in Minneapolis next. Nesler is founder of the fastest growing veteran-centric Facebook group VA is Lying, and he promises to put a dent in VA corruption by putting up what some consider to be “controversial” billboards across America.
The group’s sole purpose is to root out unethical VA employee behavior that has harmed and even killed veterans nationwide. And the message is resonating well among many veteran advocacy circles as evidenced by the groups growing popularity.
Nesler’s next step is to put up billboards with one message across the country, including Minneapolis. Saying: “VA is LYING” – “VETERANS ARE DYING!” the billboards are causing quite a stir within certain circles at VA and nationwide amongst veterans using social media and crowd sourcing on Facebook and Go Fund Me.
CONTRIBUTE: VA IS LYING – Go Fund Me – Minneapolis Billboard Project
[UPDATE – The funds were raised after this publication and the Go Fund Me campaign was stopped to focus on the others around the country.]
But the catalyst behind the movement may shock you. His new radical step to increase public awareness of crimes against veterans has its roots in recent harassment the founder faced when he threatened to protest in a VA healthcare parking lot in Marion, Illinois.
RELATED: The Southern Illinoisan – Billboard near Marion IL proclaims “VA is lying”
Two months ago, Nesler was singled out by a special agent from VA’s secretive “Intelligence Division” based in Washington, DC.
Nesler triggered the response when he called VA secretary Bob McDonald and threatened to protest in a “give me liberty or give me death” manner at a VA in Illinois. The threat was misrepresented by VA employees to state troopers. The state troopers were told Nesler intended to commit “suicide by cop.”
If you knew Nesler, you would know how outlandish the claim was within the context. Nesler was in regular contact with Bob McDonald and both Under Secretaries at the time, and VA employees’ reaction to his voice message was over the top. (Secretary McDonald’s phone is monitored and transferred to text for review by a trove of employees in Central Office.)
Indiana state troopers showed up on Nesler’s doorstep, pistol grips in hand, only to find the elderly disabled veteran in his leisure-wear relaxing in his home office.
Realizing Nesler was no threat at all (other than a threat to protest against lying VA employees) the police indicated at least one VA employee falsely claimed Nesler planned to commit “suicide by cop” and indicated he was a “threat.”
The attempt was possibly a failed attempt to send a message to Nesler that he better back off on the threat to protest in person.
But that did not stop Nesler. Instead, he has taken his message to billboards across the country – brining the 1st Amendment fight to the doorstep of VA facilities nationwide. The VA is Lying purpose is to “make VA a hostile work environment for liars” and the plan is working with two signs now up in Indiana and Illinois.
Now, the movement is catching on across the country.
His next stop is right here in sunny Minneapolis – where “all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average,” to borrow a quote from Garrison Keillor.
While VA is clearly not wild about increased public awareness of its very dirty laundry, veterans are taking to the group in droves. Nesler has been successful in raising funds for at least two signs and negotiating with national billboard companies to put up more.
Perhaps VA at Central Office in Washington, DC now know they messed with the wrong veteran.
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amen bro if i dont sat so myself
The VA has spent a lifetime lying, cheating and discriminating against the people they are suppose to serve. It’s sad that nothing and I do mean absolutely nothing has changed.
****************** Warning ***************
To anyone who is considering donating money to Mr. Nesler.
Being a Vet who was wronged here in Minnesota after reading Ben’s article on Mr. Nesler I went to the link provided and did donate to the campaign to bring a billboard to Minneapolis. But less than two days latter Mr. Nesler closed the campaign for unknown reasons. Mr. Nesler did not respond to an email I sent asking why?
But after I donated to the campaign to bring a billboard to Minneapolis I did receive a notice from gofundme stating that Mr. Nesler had updated another campaign to bring a Billboard to Tampa Fl. Later that same day Mr. Nesler canceled the campaign to bring the Billboard to Minneapolis.
The next day I received another notice from the gofundme site stating Mr. Nesler had updated another of his campaigns to spread Billboards across America. I then checked an Mr. Nesler had closed the campaign to bring the Billboard to Tampa.
After checking the webpage for Mr. Nesler’s campaign to put up Billboards across America the page shows that campaign has been operating for 7 months and has collected $4,333 of its $100,000 goal. Although the campaign is to fund spreading the Billboards across America Mr. Nesler states on that page ” Every DIME I raise will go to for attorney fees and press releases to expose and defeat VA in a legal battle.”.
To anyone considering donating to Mr. Nesler you do need to consider his track record.
1. Mr. Nesler starts the campaign to put up a Billboard in Minneapolis just before Ben’s article but after several days of donation he closes that campaign and is unresponsive to emails asking why and has not posted any reason to this site.
2. Closing the gofundme campaign to bring a Billboard to Tampa. Although CrazyElf has said he has been in touch with Mr. Nesler and a Billboard will be going up soon. It is customary to leave the Campaign up as a testament to those who donated to the campaign and to preserve their comments.
3. Mr. Nesler’s campaign for $100,000 put up Billboards across America where he promises not to use the money to put up the Billboards but to use the campaigns donations to ” Every DIME I raise will go to for attorney fees and press releases to expose and defeat VA in a legal battle.”.
Mr. Nesler since you have not answered my Email maybe you will respond to this post and explain your actions.
namnibor, no problem, that’s Ron’s business P.O.Box. It’s also on his webpage so people can send stuff to him. I do understand your reservations though!
I’m very proud of these veterans, how else will people be reminded that veterans do matter and there is very big problems with the department of veterans affairs. They may want to add please call your senators, congressman and stopped hurting our veterans! These need to be placed on every major highways, bet that would force our elected officials to understand veterans are tired of the va,s disrespect of veterans and fire any employee whom has hurt a veteran and veterans given the right to a fair trial or hearing by an impartial committee and the va be forced to provide any and all evidence they used to determine that the veteran actually did something wrong.! . Some va employees deserve some of their own medicine and pulled into court. And if it is determined the employee or employees intended to falsely accuse a veteran of wrongdoing, these employees need jail time and the veteran made whole.
I don’t think I can say much on “feelings” regarding their shitty “Behaviors towards a Veteran,” (I wanted to speak to a specific person, I just wanted information regarding. Treatment in another state, that’s it! “HOWEVER,” my call to the person I wished to speak to got cut off by the “suicide prevention coordinator in Fort Worth. This woman went off with a litany of B.S., I said thanks. Hung up. Gee, do ya think she is in the right job? I NEVER ASKED THEM TO FLY ME THERE. (SELF PAY FOR TICKET?)
Because a certain person reads a “letter” ruh oh-“since I have Fibro FOG, I installed an app so it would help TRULY IT WAS FOR MEDICAL REASONS ONLY BECAUSE THE PAIN AND FOG KICK BACK AND HAVE A FEW BUT DO NOT INVITE ME! (I DO NOT DRINK, HECK UNLESS YOUR TALKING ONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS OR CIOMMUNION?) I think it could be “education in Texas,” but having great of teachers I dealt with in my past as a volunteer in many places and as a student maybe it’s the location? After all Texas encourages businesses to come here. Maybe the blow up of a plant that killed several, damaged homes oh and always the Jackass as governor constantly filing lawsuits wanted FEMA to help. ( I think he has some issues-like “theft?” GEE DID ABBOTT FORGET FEMA WAS DEALING WITH DEVASTATION IN OKLAHOMA? POTUS was here for the families, not these idiots which is/or should be common knowledge he and Abbott did a no no! That plant was insured for a million bucks. GOLY GEE PERRY YOU JUST DO NOT ALLOW THAT!
OH AND NOPE NOT CRAZY! THEY TAG YOU AND FLAG YOU BUT VIOLATION TO MY RIGHTS TO SPEAK FREELY TO DOCTORS, OR WHOMEVER. MY AUNT MUST BE A BIG THREAT TOO. HICKEY IS DAMAGE CONTROL-“2 for the price one Hickey, and Lawsuits will commence!” KISS YOUR GRITS GOODBYE!
Like I STATED A LETTER REGARDING PAIN AND IT REALLY DOES EFFECT THE FIBRO SO THAT “BELLY UP” COMPANY? HOW DID THAT EVER HAPPEN BECAUSE ITS A LIE. BEN, YOU NEED MORE OF WHAT WOULD FLIP THIS STUFF WIDE OPEN. A recording of two voices that day? YUP TEN STEP DANCING AND IT IS NOT A GOOD ONE THEY WOULD LIKE IT EVER TO GET OUT GLOBALLY? OH YUP VIRAL IT CAN GO. AND IT WILL-“AS I DID MY BEST DRAMA PERFORMANCE.” THE DEVIL IS IN ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS!” OOPS! INTEL I KNOW RATHER WELL AND STATED CHANGE MY NUMBER, STATED “THEY WILL JUST KEEP AT IT.”
“DO NOT TICKLE A DRAGON UNLESS YOU CAN HANDLE THE HEAT!”
THE ABSOLUTELY WORSE THING TO DO IS TELL DO NOT CALL THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS? OH I DO LOVE CHALLENGES!!!
MY RIGHTS I DO BELIEVE IN, MY HERITAGE KNOWN??? 1635, MAN OF THE CLOTH RIGHTS TO PRACTICE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM AND HIS RIGHTS TO SPEEK FREELY!” “I GUESS YOU CAN SAY DAUGHTER TO THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND HEY NOT MY FAULT!” VIRAL SCOUP ANYONE? OR IS IT PRIMORDIAL SOUP TO TOSS A FEW IN BUT RUN QUICK ROCKS FLY OUT!
TEMPER TANTRUM? I THINK THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE TITLE TO THE VA’S ! ALSO PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA , SPECIFIC TRAITS TESTING USING A TARGETED APPROACH ON A VETERAN, BAD JUJU!
TEMPER TANTRUM PALACE HICKEY THE DOPE IS OUT AND YOU KNOW TEXANS FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH RED AND JUST WAITING…..?
BY THE WAY, MY BACK CLAIM WHICH I STATED CALL ME AFTER 3P.ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF INCREASE LEVEL OF PAIN, I DO NOT ALWAYS GET SLEEP, BUT THE VA? “IF THEY CANNOT TELL TIME I GUESS THAT SHOULD BE NOTED A TEST LIKE PRE-SCHOOL OR KINDERGARTEN? IT REALLY IS NOT A HARD TEST? ( ALL MY BABIES ARE UP ON THE HIGH END ON LEARNING! I ALSO STATED “DO NOT BE A COOKIE CUTTER GO LEAD, TEST THE LIMITS AND KNOW I GOT YOUR BACK!”) SENT A COPY OF MY DISCHARGE PHYSICAL REASON? IT ONLY HAD A MONTH AND A YEAR THAT IS WHY IT WAS DENIED. COLOR ME STUPID I AM NOT, I HAVE BEEN A SLEEP TALKER ALL MY LIFE. ANOTHER REASON FOR THE APP. I THOUGHT IT WAS A DREAM THAT SOMEONE WOULD HELP FIX MY BACK. WHEN I WOKE UP, “WAS THAT A DREAM?” NOPE! IT WAS WACO. WHACK JOBS WHO LIE I JUST LOVE THE DE-NILE IT IS CAPTIVATING WHEN A PERSON, “AGAIN” CALLED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE 3P, A BIT OF A BEASTIE WHEN YOU WAKE ME. MY VOICE, THAT I CHECKED THE DENIAL LETTER-AFTER THE LETTER AND SURE ENOUGH!
I CAN ONLY MAKE THIS A “SUGGESTION” LOOK UP PTSD APA-AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOC. NEW STUDIES ALL AND WHO DOES THE MOST RESEARCH? THE VA. AS I STATED TO A COMPLETE UM LIKE DUH, PHYSICAL HEALTH FIRST THEN YOU CAN DO MENTAL HEALTH SECOND AND OH YES I AM DAMN RIGHT! (DAMN PSYCH 101? ) AS I STATED “WE ARE NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL JUST LIKE THE INSIDE OF A BODY.”WHY THE PETRI DISH EXPERIMENT?” ( A PETRI DISH IS USED TO GROW A CULTURE TO RULE OUT WHAT IS OR IS NOT THE BEST MEDICATION EXAMPLE STREP THROAT) “GEE VA GET A CLUE IT IS PSYCH 101 GO BACK AND I AM SURE YOU MIGHT LEARN THIS QUICKLY!”
THE MILITARY AND THE VA ARE NOTORIOUS FOR EXPERIMENTAL TESTING AND GEE, A GREAT BIG DAMN F! APA PSYCHIATRY.ORG
ALSO CONTROVERSIAL IDEOLOGIES BETWEEN DSM-IV, DSM-IV-R AND THE DSM V. GET COPIES OF RECORDS AND YOU CAN GO TO AHIMA.ORG, THEY MUST KNOW THE LAWS OF THE STATE AND DAMN STRAIGHT UP APA ETHICAL STANDARDS, EASY TO FIND THE PERSON AND CHECK IF THEIR CEU’S ARE UP TO DATE-BIG SCAB AND I HAVE TO PICK IT! KNOWLEDGE IS POWER THAT IS WHY I DO NOT DO TV TUBE FEEDINGS, EXAMPLE, 9/11, WHAT THEY DO TO CREATE MASS HYSTERIA TO THE COUNTRY? ( I GET CHEMISTRY AND ONE WHO HATES IT BUT TAUGHT THE CLASS ON PHYSICS AND PISSED OFF A TEACHER? GOOD! WHY DID BUILDING 7 GO DOWN? IT WASN’T HIT-SADLY THOUGH IT HIT OUR FAMILY)
ALSO FOLLOW THE LINK ABOUT PTSD AND GEE, JAMA! IT BRINGS YOU TO A TIME ARTICLE. BUT 36 CONTROLLED RANDOMIZED STUDIES OVER 35 YEAR STUDIES. OH I SCHOOLED A DOCTOR AND TOLD THAT IDIOT ABOUT CPT. “MAYBE IF YOU KEPT UP, YOU MIGHT FIND OUT CPT HAD SOME CHANGES, ACED IT COURSE REVISED NEW ADDITION, LEARN IT.” AMEND THE RECORD IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT BECAUSE IT IS YOUR DISAGREEMENT. I MENTIONED THIS TO A PERSON THAT WHAT YOU WROTE IS NOT MY STORY. THIS IS WHEN ITS GREAT TO BE A MOM AND LOTS OF CHILDREN I LOVE THEM ALL, DAMN MUSICAL FAMILY! YOU KNOW CALMLY STATING THIS ISN’T MY STORY, THE TONE IN THE VOICE GOES UP AND THEY TALK FASTER. GEE, FEEL GUILTY? “AS YOU SHOULD!” AS A T-SHIRT I SAW-“YOU CAN’T SCARE ME I’VE HAVE KIDS!” JUST LIKE I CALMLY SPOKE EVEN TONE TO THOSE MAKE HER A HUMAN FRISBEE OH AND GEE 250+ ON MY BACK ARM WAY UP ON MY HEAD, I DON’T SCREAM, I DID THEN. ODD AS HE STATES WATCH MY STEPS? I THINK SOMEONE HAD A MOTIVE-“BITE ME VA!”
BEN I LOVE GARRISON KEILLOR! SATURDAY NIGHT RITUAL IN THE HOUSE!
“KEEP DIGGING BEN, I HAVE MY “SAILOR TERM” SOS! HOWEVER THE VA LACKS AND THATS JUST THE FACTS! DID I MENTION SEVERAL CIVILIAN DOCTORS AND MORE WHO THINK THE VA IS DAMN USELESS! BUT AS I STATED-“THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS!” DIG FOLKS, I KNOW THE PRIVACY ACT AND HIPAA QUITE WELL!” QUESTIONS? I WOULD TRY AND HELP BUT RIGHT NOW NOT ON MY PHONES AND EMAILS YUP SNOOPING AROUND! NO I AM NOT PARANOID JUST A PBFH WHEN I SEE, HEAR, IGNORED WHAT I STATED, CHANGED MY ANSWERS? DUMB ME DOWN? KEEP AT IT VA BECAUSE I ENJOY MY BANTERING YOU, TEST YOU, SEEING GEE DID THEY AT LEAST TRY GOOGLE?
MAYBE THEY STILL USE DOS PROMPT COMPUTERS! ( YIKES!!!)
LET ME ADD THEY SHOULD HAVE AN NPI NUMBER, IF IT IS AN INTERN AND NO ONE IS REALLY WATCHING THEM THEN FOLLOW WHO SIGNS OFF ON THEM.
JUST FYI-I SHALL NOT TELL YOU TO NOT USE THE WORD “GOD” BUT IT REALLY IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT FOR ME. IF YOU DESIRE A GOD OF YOUR CHOICE TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN, THEN PAY FOR PRIVATE EDUCATION. PUBLIC SCHOOLS, TEXAS THE I KICK ASS KNOW MY STUFF AND DAMN STRAIGHT UP I WILL GO AFTER YOU WITH WORDS. ( AS I TOLD MY AUNT AS I JOKE-“I AM THE BOMB-LEARN IT-THE SHIT STICKS!”) TRUST ME SHE EVEN KNOWS GER “STUFF” WELL! GODS AND GUNS 18 Y/O COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN PACK HEAT! “YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID.”
THE REASON EVERYONE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION BIG TIME BECAUSE I DOUBT HOW MANY KNEW GEORGE W BUSH RAN THE TEXAS DEBT UP, (PERRY AND ABBOTT COLLECTED MONEY UNDER THE PRETENSES OF A BUSINESS ASKING FOR IT? OH AND YES LIARS BIG TIME! FED UP BOOK PERRY? IN WHAT WAY?)
WHAT DOES THE XII AMENDMENT STATE? IF ANYONE WAS IN ZOMBIE STATUS, “I CALL IT PEAL THE ONION.” YE WHO SEEKS TRUTH CAN SEEK OTHER MEANS AND NAIL A FEW!
I AM PROGRESSIVE THINKING WHEN IT COMES TO OBSERVING OR BEING A PARENT. “BUT WHEN I SAY GOD BLESS AMERICA” I AM NOT REALLY USING IT ACTUALLY FOR A BLESSING I AM DEALING DAMN PAINFUL AS HELL TRIGGER POINT INJECTIONS.
ONE OF MY OWN HAS A PASTA GOD-I KEEP ASKING, “DOES THAT COME WITH GRAVY AND MEATBALLS?”
HEY, ADULTS CAN LEARN FROM A CHILD, MY THOUGHTS SEND EVERY DAMN PERSON A BOOK WHO “IS OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS” (unless we are headed for a police state? Eyes wide open folks!)
EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW I LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN!
But keep in mind, “YOU CANNOT FIX STUPID!”
“Delay , Deny wait till they Die”
Rich Weissman of VVA
“……………….. and if they don’t die, kill them”
MSG VAM
OIF/OEF Disabled Veteran (US Army Retired/ Chapter 61)
What if…? Perhaps he received enough donations for the one in abundance to where it would more than cover the other locality? These are not cheap monthly (I think) leases, and I for one would like to see that fundraising constant as to fund these spreading in each State’s major metro high traffic areas…Washington, D.C. would be an awesome place for one as well. If I had Trump’s $$ I would employ Veterans that have flying jobs, whether crop dusting, or recreational, and have them sky-write over major events, “VA Is Lying, Vets Are Dying”…would be great.
Just wish we had some communication of what is going on. Noticed no new topic today so hope all is well.
By the way, has *anyone* read or viewed anything that validates what Sec. McDonald was doing as far as what plan of attack or policy of his supposed mission and purpose for that trip, “End Homelessness For ALL Vets In Hawaii”???? Still wondering if that was simply a vacation ploy. Yep, am cynical like that.
namnibor, from talking with, and reading what he put on his site. He got a special deal on an electric billboard in Tampa. Something like $1300 for 28 days. In an email from him this morning, he’s got enough for the first month. That’s not counting what I sent snail mail.
When he gets enough he’ll let me know how much extra he needs for Tampa. I hope I can swing it to where I can send the money to him.
I really want that billboard up here in Tampa, Florida….
I will guarantee the news media will cover that. If they don’t, “SHAME ON THEM!”
@Ben, @crazyelf & @naminbor, and others::
per Ron’s twitter accnt, 5h5 hours ago he writes:
Your donations will help to put up VA is LYING billboards all across America….
however, 21h21 hours ago he wrote:
I am ENDING this fundraiser…. https://www.gofundme.com/622hgyv7?pc=tw_u
and 24h24 hours ago he wrote:
VA is LYING billboard for Tampa FL
this link does work, at least the site looks active!
https://www.gofundme.com/vetvsva
today these links for ron no longer work,
https://www.gofundme.com/es2bjty4
https://www.gofundme.com/622hgyv7
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so 21hrs ago he ended one of the gofund links but just 5.5hrs ago he’s still green-lighted his billboard mission.
i’m a gonna get a donation to him.
this is one of the most visible & powerful public proclamations for veterans i’ve seen in years … for the whole word to see.
if the GoFundMe link is ?ending? , is Ron still accepting donations to get bill-boards up via that PO Box addr that was posted? i can send something there to chip in.
also, Mr @Ben, just who are these “special agent from VA’s secretive “Intelligence Division”” entities?
is there a list of these entities veterans can see so they don’t get “setup” by them? are they stationed at VA’s dressed like li ol ladies, at vet support groups, vet clinics, therapy clinics, doctors, or what?
looks like they setup Ron and i’m sure others too, yes?
Ben, what’s happening? Why did Ron discontinue the “go fund me” account? I’m confused on this. Us he still wanting to add more billboards? I would’ve liked to see one down here in Florida and, of course, in other parts of the U.S.
Can you get to the bottom of this!?
Hey Crazy Elf,
I did receive two emails from the gofundme site. One was at 3:54 pm from the Tampa sign webpage. The message it contained was:
“WTG, People! We are almost HALF WAY HOME for our first month of the VA is LYING billboard in Tampa. Let us all fight VA corruption as hard as we are able!”
That page is still up and receiving donations for the VA is LYING billboard for Tampa FL.
But then at 8:46 pm I received the email from the gofundme site with the message “I am ENDING this fundraiser.” That was for the VA is LYING billboard MINNEAPOLIS webpage.
I noted at about 7 pm the Minneapolis webpage showed that Ben had also put up $200 and at least 3 other people had also sent in money.
That is all that I know.
I do notice that Ben has not posted a new article for today.
Jade, although it’s great the Tampa billboard fundraiser is still going on. It saddens me to hear the other one isn’t! Maybe, like the one in Tampa, he has to get the money quickly to get a special deal. I have sent him an email asking about this issue this morning. He probably hasn’t read it yet. I sent Ron enough to possibly put him very close to what he needs for the one in Tampa. If he needs just a few more hundred, I might be able to get that off to him today.
I really do want to see many of these going up everywhere!!!
Did you see the article concerning the “Obama Phone” scam that happened down here in Florida? I posted a comment on it on the Ashley Madison blog. I think it was that blog. According to the reporter, he was “bombarded with emails from veterans” over it. Once you read it, I think you might understand why veterans get tricked so easily by VA.
My wife is upset because the people who were giving “free phones” to the vets were praying on their naivety, gullibility and ignorance.
That is why we feel many vets get “taken advantage of” by VA! Many believe VA, or anyone inside that building, is spouting the truth!
Monday, we were at the Daytona Beach VAMC, and heard a vet say they cut his pain meds. As the vet continued, he said he would “rather get an opioid for [his] pain.” I was called into my appointment, so I don’t know what happened after that.
There are many out there who believe what VA says. And not what other veterans are telling them. That’s why I, and my wife, feel they need a wake-up call. These “billboards” might just do the trick…..
@crazyelf, i was able to make donation today at this link:
https://www.gofundme.com/vetvsva
may be mr ron consolidated a few gofund accnts for his billboard mission and simply closed the other ones?
Thanks. I send through snail mail. Ron already knows this. Thanks anyway Cantigny.
National protest fat is August 28, bring your American flag and a sign.
I just tried to go to the Go Fund Me link and I am getting the message “Campaign Not Found”. Earlier today I did donate but now getting this message. What is up with that?
More VA control?
Received an Email from the gofundme page with a message from Ronald Nesler stating
“I am ENDING this fundraiser.”
So I believe the title to this article should now be “‘Controversial’ Billboard “”NOT”” Coming To Minneapolis”
So according to the gofundme website all donations made to see the billboard brought to Minneapolis will be sent to Ronald Nesler. Personally I only donated because I wanted to help bring awareness to people in my area about the VA and thought Mr. Nesler was going to help make that happen.
What The Hell? Any explanation of why this fundraiser was canceled? Was going to contribute this morning and got the same exact message but without any explanation nor disclosure of perhaps Ron received more than enough donations so perhaps THAT is why it was prematurely ended? Anyway, I do not typically donate anything online these days, regardless of how safe people or organizations may state it is…last thing I need is to experience something getting hacked…but found this just odd. Was Ron bullied by the VA or threatened with legal or otherwise for defamation or something?
Do realize not everyone uses Facebook, nor even ever want to, so I would not depend on all your communication to be through FB for that very reason, if the reason for ending fundraiser was sent out only by those means.
Namnibor,
Not sure of what happened but note that the VA is LYING billboard for Tampa FL is still up and taking donations. Also I know what you mean about facebook. I don’t use it either.
Someone mentioned targeted individuals. AND it does happen to those who dare to bring out the truth about government or corporations. Upon a newer and more recent reading of gangstalking/mobbing, that these techniques used by the stasi in Germany, the kgb in russia who now teaches it in America called the American cointel program, the Mi6 in England or whatever spy group any one country has.and that goes for the free masons in Scotland too. Journalists call it the BUZZSAW for them who try to write the truth. AT THE worst of it, any service oriented employee will be used or employed to spy and make one’s life unbearable with lies for starters and included are folks like. nurses, police, firemen, doctors, judges, lawyers and this realm is thick with anyone that has a service or with the public job. So, it is to keep anyone from speaking the truth and eventually, this TI will commit suicide or they end up in jail on trumped charges. Spying on one another to satisfy some one or a group of higher ups for their perverted reasons in any one organization or employer/insurance company is an extremely sick mechanism in this country and there are thousands upon thousands who are aiding and abetting to undermine those who dare to tell the truth. Friends family,neighbors can be enlisted after telling THEM lies to completely discredit and to lie and spy ON the innocent person. Snitching is big business in our country too.. .Apparently there are other old groups that employ these very sick and evil tactics. Since my last employer, Kaiser, a federal contractor did this to many women and minorities and the elderly, I had no idea that these tactics even existed. I still have nightmares about the way employees and patients were so badly treated and some resulting in premature deaths such as suicides or murder. It is truly one of the most pernicious acts that can be done and who would’ve thought. that this would or could go on in our own country, for years now,, especially to people that are sick and injured, certainly not me. We need to get people to actually change their tune in really caring and having compassion for one another and about one another rather than spying AND discrediting to poison against one another for someone to off themselves who is tired of being harassed for no real good reason. and in your cases, it is to deny you any/all of your benefits, however it can be done and most of it is done criminally,with undue harm.
This may not be believed but there are injured and disabled workers who’s lives have been turned upside down where they are discredited, lied about, spied on across the country, being followed and its all to have them off themselves and then there will be less benefits that have to be paid out..I never ever thought would see so much harm done to anyone human being let alone to millions so deliberately in our country called America. .
God bless us all.
God bless our country
God bless our veterans who give everything.
I just tried to go to the Go Fund Me link and I am getting the message “Campaign Not Found”. Earlier today I did donate but now getting this message. What is up with that?
More VA control?
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE VA LAWYER LINK?
I WANT A VA LAWYER!
Thanks!!
Contact alphadisability i
I have been noting that the VA targets many veterans for bringing all the slimy things to light.
Legally, can anyone, especially you Ben, can provide a listing of all legal criminal charges( from the many cases )that can be prosecutable in court. Seems, many of these targeted individuals, once realize after months, years are afraid to because one common thread runs- labeled crazy.
VA tried to tell me that I didn’t have qualify service to receive health care after my separation. I served about 12 years. They later changed their story to: I didn’t qualify because even though I was unemployed, I had made too much money the previous year. This was from the El Paso office. Austin got it straight though. I agree that Tampa needs that billboard and Knoxville could use one too. Knoxville was along with Tampa one which infected patients with hepatitis by not cleaning their colonic endoscopes.
My father had tried to rally support for change in Knoxville and got a petition going. They killed my father. the nurses and doctors were lying to our family as he lay dying, providing conflicting statements about his treatment. even going so far as to claim that he was suddenly brain dead and yet injecting him with “pain killers”
Open letter to Ben and Ron: I still wonder who the assholes were who ganged up on me on Ron’s “VA is Lying” facebook page a few months ago. I would like to know what Ron thinks about it, especially since they were vets trying to make me look crazy.
I was complaining about being framed and falsely arrested by the VA. Vets put on tin foil covered helmets and held tin foil covered rifles, calling me delusional. Later, my wife and I went to our Congressman (Doug LaMalfa, and his staffer Erin Ryan) and we got letters of apology from the VA for their “mishap” as they called it. Gosh, they were only framing me for conspiracy to commit murder of a VA Director, so I guess it was no big deal. In all fairness, I did get an email explanation from Ben who took interest as he knows me.
Ben explained that Ron had been set up by the VA and military, much like happened to me, for many years. They even claimed he did not serve in Nam, just as they did with me, but that was finally cleared up. Sure, like ‘Top Secret my ass!’ It was done along with a truck load of other VA shit to try to get out of paying service-connected compensation. Anyway, we are all supposed to be on the same side, not letting the VA turn us against each other.
I doubt if I am the only one who got their fur rubbed the wrong way from going to Ron’s facebook page, because there are VA trolls or impulsive vets, or double-agent pricks kissing up to the VA. I was threatened in writing and in person by the US Dept. of Defense if I tried to talk about details of my no-long classified or sensitive service, my wife and son were both arrested as I was, and they have only finally backed off because I am fortunate to have a kick-ass Congressman that went to the ends of the earth to stop the shit the VA and DoD were pulling on us.
I can’t be the only vet that has ran into this kind of problem on Ron’s facebook page. I would strongly recommend that Ron personally say something back to me here about this, and in general too, about the presumed similar problems that vets have sometimes had going to his otherwise effective facebook page. Him doing so will make his page much more effective.
There are several SOMs (Special Operations Manuals — the kind Ben still has in his library from his SOC background) that cover this kind of problem as used by embedded troops on real world missions, where the game is “We were never here, this never happened.” How about it, Ron (an Ben)? Thanks, and Semper Fi.
my above post should read “no longer” classified or sensitive service, not “no long” ….
Bruce, I had the same happen to me. For 23+ years the VA said I “was never there.” Or even “in the Army.”
When I found out, trust me, I was pissed. I went off on a few individuals. But I had my DD-214’s in hand. Plus copies of my 201 file and Army medical records. So, they backed off immediately!!!
Every once in a while, some VA puke will say something about this and my wife will pull out my documents and flash them. She gets pissed and very calmly says “let’s you and I go talk to our attorney about this, NOW!” That’s when VA shuts their mouth and starts apologizing quickly.
Also, I have given on here Ron’s P.O. Box address. Donate to this cause. It’s a great cause. It’ll make VA think twice about attacking veterans in the future.
Here’s Ron’s address….
“Ron Nesler/VA is lying acct.
P.O.Box 16
New Harmony, Ind.
47631”
Donate…. I did. I sent a money order out on Saturday. He should get it by mid week.
I would like to see these go up nationwide.
My best guess is I am not going to hear a word from Ron. His stubborn personality is what makes him so effective. What he is missing is understanding the importance of admitting when you are wrong, or at least sharing his position as to the way me and my family were mistreated on VA is Lying.
George Bush (the first Bush President) used to write thank you letters to all sorts of people, rich and poor, strong and weak, showing his appreciation for what they had done for him or others.
But, some people think snubbing or looking the other way when the ‘despised Samaritan’ is bloodied and laying in the ditch by the side of the road is the okay thing to do. Or, they become too big for their britches and decide to play the ‘I am too important to get involved or waste my time on that’ game.
@crazyelf– I do not know how wise it really is to post ANY Veteran’s home address on this Blog…remember, some “not so friendly fire” monitor this site and those that may wish to do damage to Veterans or worse…also remember, we are still engaged in a full-blown series of wars in which these terrorists have already put it out there to hurt military members in the USA from within the USA…just saying that because remember, the VA is highly adversarial and might want to keep those mental filters up of privacy for that very reason.
Ok, for all. If you, like me, don’t like to donate, or pay for anything, online. Ron has a ‘physical address’ you can send a check or money order to. I’ve done that and he will receive it sometime this week. Go to his site or
Here it is::::
Ron Nesler/VA is Lying Acct.
P.O. Box 16
New Harmony, Ind.
47631
Make checks or money orders out to
“Ron Nesler/VA is Lying Acct.”
I hope this helps. Now donate whatever you can. Everything helps!
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Side story, Google::::::::
“Obama phones” issued to Central Florida veterans in massive free phone scheme”
author; Mike Holfeld, problem solver
[email protected]
It’s even got a video that explains the scam against veterans.
In this news article, there’s another article with another video saying
“Vets Duped in Free Phone Offer”
This “scheme” could net someone as high as $12 million. Maybe more of taxpayers money. That’s why it hit the news last night at 11 pm edt.
When my wife an I watched it. We wondered how the public is going to react. Because, like I said on the Ashley Madison blog yesterday, MANY civilians and taxpayers all, are upset (PISSED) at VA down here in Florida. They see the BULLSHIT VA is pulling and ain’t happy one bit!!!! That’s a fact…..
Same in Eastern Washington. Many civilians wonder why we ain’t marching on them in force. At the very least… they WOULD be supportive of it! Maybe it’s time to take it up a level?
Jaina, I agree. At the least we should protest outside of every VAMC nationwide. With the help of civilian taxpayers that would send a message to VA to stop the bullshit.
count me in for 50 more coming
Cool beans! However, I do not use Facebook nor ever will. Are there alternative ways to contribute such as PayPal, which is incredibly secure and safe?
Thanks Ron, for all you are doing. Would be great to have T-Shirts printed accordingly to your message as well as magnetic bumper stickers. Just a thought.
If I had the physical energy reserves to help-out with hands-on, I surely would but that’s not the case unfortunately.
Namnibor,
You don’t need to be signed up on facebook to contribute. You can contribute by hitting the button on the right hand side of the page. You can contribute and leave a comment with your contribution then.
But if you just want to leave a comment you would need to sign in using facebook.
Ron’s effort to help all veterans might encourage Presidential hopefuls to publicly debate their plan to first purge and then revitalize the Veterans Administration.
Appointing another military academy graduate would equate to pissing into the wind.
My suggestion: Appoint a Command Sergeant Major with the authority to surround him/her with enlisted personnel with the authority to replace the VA’s failed Senior Executive corp.
To Agent Orange,
I wouldn’t even trust a Command Sgt. Major!
Don’t you remember the “khaki mafia” during, and after, the Vietnam War? They were high ranking NCO’s who ran a scam in the billions of $$$$$$$ running the “clubs” and other things in the military. It went as high as the Pentagon. Where the Sergeant Major of the Army was called in front Congress and stripped of his rank and given a “dishonorable discharge” for his role in it.
There’s a book written on it from around 1975-80.
No, in my opinion, we need someone with honor in that position. So far, that hasn’t happened. Anyone got a suggestion?
The adjacent sign should read “Make some noise, VA is not my Choice” ” Disrespecting the Flags of our Fathers , why bother?
Thank you Ron.
All that I can afford is $25 at this time but will be adding another $100 after the first.
Ron, he’s also trying to put one up by the Tampa VAMC. This is one of two that were caught doing egregious acts against veterans. One had rats and roaches remember? When the food trays were taken to veterans/patients they had “droppings” and roaches on them. If I were an inpatient, and there was that on it, Trust me, that person who delivered it- would wear it!!! Also, I believe up in Alabama he wants to put up a billboard also.