GAO Report: Veterans Affairs Still Failing Women Veterans

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A new GAO report shows VA Health Administration (VHA) is still failing to comply with basic standards to give women veterans adequate health care.

The Government Accounting Organization (GAO) concluded VA is still weak in many areas of providing women veterans with health care that have been known for many years.

The recommendations from GAO sound like a broken record for the past eight years, and really since VA tried to provide women with access to health care for many years before.

What surprises me is that the most gender conscious president in history was still unable or unwilling to improve health care access for women in a manner consistent with civilians standards while increasing care availability for transgender veterans. Up until the days after Donald Trump was elected, VA was still prepared to start gender reassignment surgeries.

Does that seem strange to anyone? Why are women veterans still facing access issues? Should VA just abandon health care to women in favor of outsourcing it to care providers with more experience?

Recommendations For Women Veterans Health Care

GAO recommended that VA provide environmentally safe inspection processes. It also recommended VA monitor women’s access to sex-specific care. Apparently, the investigation revealed VA hospitals had been left largely to their own devices to report problems related to women veteran health case and failed to report problems as required.

Does this surprise anyone? That VA would fail to follow policies for accountability related to health care quality?

Why GAO Did Investigation

The GAO did the study because:

In 2010, GAO found a number of weaknesses related to care for women veterans at VA medical facilities. GAO was asked to update that study. This report examines (1) the extent that VA medical centers complied with requirements related to the environment of care for women veterans and VHA’s oversight of that compliance; (2) what is known about the availability of VHA medical providers who can provide sex-specific care for women veterans at VA facilities; and (3) VHA’s efforts to provide and monitor access to sex-specific care for women veterans through Choice. To do this work, GAO reviewed VHA data on environment of care deficiencies; the number, location, and availability of VHA and Choice medical providers; women veteran enrollment; and Choice access-related performance measures. In addition, GAO inspected the environment of care for compliance with VHA policy at a nongeneralizable sample of six VA medical centers, which were selected to achieve variation in different care models, the size of the women veterans’ population, and geographical locations. GAO also interviewed VHA Central Office and VA medical center officials.

What GAO Found

The watchdog organization found VA still lacked adequate safety measures and staffing to ensure women veterans receive adequate and timely access to quality health care:

The Department of Veterans Affairs’ (VA) Veterans Health Administration (VHA) does not have accurate and complete data on the extent to which its medical centers comply with environment of care standards for women veterans. VHA policy requires its medical facilities, including VA medical centers, to meet environment of care standards related to the privacy, safety, and dignity of women veterans. VHA Central Office relies on medical centers to conduct regular inspections and to report instances of noncompliance, which are compiled in a VHA database. However, almost all the noncompliance GAO identified through inspections at six VA medical centers it visited had not been reported or recorded in the VHA database, and compliance rates ranged from 65 percent to 81 percent. For example, GAO found a lack of auditory privacy at check-in clerk stations and a lack of privacy curtains in examination rooms, as required by VHA policy. GAO also found weaknesses in VHA’s oversight of the environment of care for women, including a lack of thorough inspections and limited verification of facility-reported data which results in inaccurate and incomplete data. As a result, the privacy, safety, and dignity of women veterans may not be guaranteed when they receive care at VA facilities. Federal internal control standards for monitoring call for management to establish activities to monitor the quality of performance over time and promptly resolve any identified issues.

GAO’s analysis of VHA data shows that nationally the number of VHA full-time employee equivalent gynecologists and the number of women’s health primary care providers—VHA primary care providers specially trained in women’s health care services, such as breast exams—increased by 3 percent and 15 percent respectively, from fiscal year 2014 through fiscal year 2015, and those percentages exceeded the 1 percent growth in women veteran enrollment during the same period. However, about 27 percent of VA medical centers and health care systems lacked an onsite gynecologist and about 18 percent of VA facilities providing primary care lacked a women’s health primary care provider, according to VHA data. VHA officials said not all facilities require onsite gynecologists and facilities may authorize gynecological services from non-VA providers. They acknowledged a shortage of at least 675 women’s health primary care providers and have a plan to train at least 535 providers by the end of fiscal year 2016.

The Veterans Choice Program (Choice) is a primary option for veterans to receive care from non-VA providers in the community if care cannot be provided at VA facilities. While the number of obstetricians and gynecologists under Choice has increased, some areas lack these providers, according to a VHA analysis. While VHA monitors access-related Choice performance measures (such as timely appointment scheduling) for all veterans, it does not have such measures for women veterans’ sex-specific care, such as mammography, maternity care, or gynecology. VHA’s data show poor performance on access-related performance measures for all veterans, and GAO found cases where women veterans’ maternity care was significantly delayed, suggesting that veterans, including women, face challenges receiving timely access to care. Federal internal control standards for monitoring call for management to establish activities to monitor the quality of performance over time and promptly resolve any identified issues.

I likely speak for a lot of veterans in expressing my disappointment that VA has continued to fail women veterans.

President Obama could have resolved this through various mandated reporting but we all know VA was not worried about providing more accountability through reporting but less after getting caught up in the wait list scandal.

Source: http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/681363.pdf

Ex va
Ex va

This does not surprise me that the non compliance was not found in the VHA database. VAMC’s don’t report it. It isn’t a problem. That is what VAOIG does, it doesn’t report all the allegations and the allegations that they do report they do not substantiate so it is dropped. Improved monitoring, what are they hall monitors?

Ex va
Ex va

Where is the balance of objectivity in any of this what accountability?

Wyndi Warren
Wyndi Warren

It seems it is only in the minds of those who realize they’re stuck on the “other end of the stick.” The stick is the power game. If you’ve got the power, you don’t give it up easily and certainly not voluntarily. And certainly not just because someone complains. You brush it off and go back to your façade of doing the right thing.

namnibor
namnibor
“[Does that seem strange to anyone? Why are women veterans still facing access issues? Should VA just abandon health care to women in favor of outsourcing it to care providers with more experience?]” The VA has exceedingly failed all Veterans miserably, and some demographics more so than others. The medical part of the VA should be abolished/abandoned and it’s high-time for Plan B. I have heard female Veterans talk about how they have been mocked and had their reports of… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

“Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”

Wyndi Warren
Wyndi Warren

Thanks for the focus on this issue. It’s rare that anyone even notices.

Dennis
Dennis
I think the GAO should have shit canned the words in the report and simply provided for congress pictures of liquifying corpses, maggot infested veterans, close up photos of bloody drill bits, pictures of burning veterans suiciding by flame on VA lawns, photos of the vet the VA put on a waiting list for his body to be removed from outside ER, and most of all…… Close up photos of the facilities given to our cherished veteran sisters in fulfillment… Read more »
Lem
Lem

From what I’ve seen it is the same for men and women. This GAO study is a matter of focus.

namnibor
namnibor
But in reality, no male Veteran can assume to walk in the shoes of what a female Veteran experiences at the VA, so I have to respectfully disagree in that it’s not the same for men and women. Especially when you consider where the homeland is for many of these imported quacks at the VA where in their homelands, women are treated like neglected animals. “Walking in my shoes”- Depeche Mode “I would tell you about the things They put… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
“…Peace of mind after what I’ve been through And before we talk of any repentance Try walking in my shoes Try walking in my shoes You’ll stumble in my footsteps Keep the same appointments I kept If you try walking in my shoes If you try walking in my shoes Try walking in my shoes” Any male Veteran trying to minimalize or marginalize our Sisters-in Arms’ experiences at the VA is like trying to say PTSD is something we need… Read more »
Lem
Lem
I’ll give you that except for the female providers which most women see. And I have had far more female providers than male. About 2 to 1. I don’t know what the ratio is in the VA but it seems I always draw a female physician. And even in the Choice program I got a female. I had a PC male at Black Hills (Hot Springs, SD) for about a year and a half until he moved on to better… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Y’all have hit on everything except the “privacy policy” issue. The wife and I have witnessed these alleged healthcare providers making appointments, and talking healthcare, right out in the open. They’re doing it, in front of God and everyone in the waiting room. Nurses have said, “It’s legal!” for them to make appointments and discuss healthcare issues, with patients, in the waiting room. We have reported this. Yet, they were still doing it two Mondays ago! I agree with Dennis,… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
I personally experienced upon my initial intake with the VA years ago, a rather gruff female nurse asking incredibly sensitive questions LOUDLY with the door wide open to room and when I kindly asked to close the door for PRIVACY reasons, she said, and I quote with her maniacal laugh, “YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY AT THE VA”!!!! Honest to God, can you imagine how female Veteran deal with this when given no choice and they get a male VA witch… Read more »
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Dennis
Dennis
Wino vets cannot afford Jack Daniels. Two bottles of Night Train cost $6 and get the drunk going well. Last I saw not only is Jack Daniels one of the more expensive whiskeys, it is also made in Lynchberg County as I recall. When I was in the Marine Corps, it was illegal to sell alcohol in Lynchberg County back then and I suppose it always will be. Once a custom becomes a birthrite it is hard to change. Like… Read more »
Rick Lipary
Please do NOT represent this lying BULLSHIT as fact! I have been in the V.A. system since 1971, and know that this is an endlessly perpetuated anti-male lie! Women veterans COMPLETELY control ALL V.A. hospitals and clinics, and EVERYTHING is done for them, and NOT for the male veterans who do the fighting, bleeding, suffering, and DYING! We are cast aside, hated on, ignored, and abandoned! In study after study, up to 80% of male respondents agree that MALES, not… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

By 1627 A.D. nearly 80% of the worlds top scientists believed the Earth was flat. In Lilliput top studies suggested that the small end of the egg was to be cracked first. Luke Skywalker also turned out to be sort of ugly when he got old too, though that fact has yet to be verified by RAND.

I thought I would flesh out some of the studies you left out…equally relevant to the issue at hand, and each equally true.

Rick Lipary
^^^^Weird and meaningless examples from a VERY weird guy! Who cares about round or flat earth, Dennis? Some things are ridiculous , and others are debatable. What IS’NT debatable is that males in V.A. facilities are treated FAR less well than females. Why do you think most VA. suicides are male? It sure is hell is’nt because we are somehow more fragile than women. What a JOKE! It is because we face FAR more than women, including repeated combat, but… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@Rick Lipary- I am utterly embarrassed for you and almost feel sorry for you…almost. Just keep walking through life like that and hating on our Veteran Sisters and keep going straight until you come to the edge of the flat earth and wave at Marvin The Martian for me, he’s a cool guy and he does not discriminate nor condescend. He will give you the proper fluids to place in your morning snowflakes instead of the piss that you poured… Read more »
Rick Lipary

I will go you a step further! I AM disappointed in YOU for your typically MANGINA attitude! Women veterans and their dumb ass supporters like YOU are causing the divisions between male and female veterans by allowing self interested female veterans to ENDLESSLY demand special privilege over male veterans! You are a RETARD!

Dennis
Dennis

…it was allegory Rick, the very point of which was to allude to the meaningless and ridiculous nature of your words. The style is used to present myself as the fool, rather than the author upon whom I was mocking, thus dragging the author down to the level of character attack which you obliged.

You are attacking the character of US Veterans whom are female. I find this repugnant.

Nothing personal, but maybe you should choose a different hobby?

Rick Lipary

Dennis, you are a brainwashed MANGINA! I hope you have an industrial size a strength can of Glade on hand, because it can get pretty smelly up there, dude! Becausecyou have no critical thinking skills, you conveniently ignore all the facts, and side with women veterans like a frothing attack dog! It is totally YOUR illogical arguments that are ridiculous!

Erica
Erica
@Rick IF women vets get medical care then why am I not having any pain medication since a VA Paid Ortho Dr broke the femur and the pelvic bone?? 6.5 months now still to this day not repaired yet with known soft tissue injuries which requires surgery yet nothing! no surgery date still set, no pain medication even when in th e”acute stage” either! I also know guys getting equally screwed but sadly most agree I a woman vet getting… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish
Rick …I do know that you are beautiful in your brokenness. You are beautiful in your pain. You are beautiful in your courage to be a soul who carries this weight. I know your heart is good & you are loveable. I know your heart has done dark things you have never told anyone. I know that sometimes all you can do is let the tears rise & fall, to make the pain just a bit more bearable, than gather… Read more »
Rick Lipary
How do you know thse things about me? What dark things do you “know” my heart has done? Please don’t go all Zen on me without knowing ME! K? If you have been following these threads, you would know that these delusional morons have called me every name in the books, and I have done NOTHING but respond in kind. It seems to elude them that males continue to suffer in the V.A. with zero help, while females there have… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish
Since 1775 & almost every year thereafter the U.S. has used military forces & fit, healthy men were sent to fight & die & pay the price so others may have security, privileges. The care-giver side of me hoped you would find inspiration & comfort – the Veteran side thinks its time to eliminate all gender based barriers; add women to the draft, the front line etc but before that happens most of your generation & mine will have to… Read more »
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
@Rick Lipary – Obviously, you have NOT been to Honolulu – – – where many of my sisters-in arms have been made to feel absolutely worthless because they seek treatment for conditions that we males can empathize with, but will NEVER truly be able to understand. “Women veterans COMPLETELY control ALL V.A. hospitals and clinics, and EVERYTHING is done for them, and NOT for the male veterans who do the fighting, bleeding, suffering, and DYING!” Man, you are so full… Read more »
Rick Lipary

You are showing your dimwitted lack of education and reading! If we could empathize, why WOULD’NT we understand? Give a circumstance, moron! You fools have made it clear that you are women pretending to be men, as in Victor/Victoria, trolls, or not conversant at ALL with the way the V.A. works. Oh, well. I guess that is your typical lib-tard!

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
Actually Rick, the uneducated, inarticulate dim-wits among us are the ones who cannot seem to type a comment to another participant in this forum without continually cursing, which is a “look at me!!!! look at me!!!” childish behavior. ‘Everyone gets their fifteen minutes of fame’ is attributed (though disputed) to Andy Warhol. In this case, you have had far more than yours – – – and still stated ABSOLUTELY ZILCH of SUBSTANCE. So exactly what is the point you are… Read more »
Rosebud
Rosebud

Not you again! Don’t you ever have anything positive to add to the conversation?

Angela
Angela
No, women veterans do not get special treatment. For example, it has and is taking 2 years for me to get back into the women’s clinic. How about that? I have requested a blood test and the Telcare nurse made the comment about the VA wasting money. I just laughed silently. Although, the Telcare nurse is not the authority on this issue, the doctor is. Yes, the VA wastes money on installing carpet that they do not need and buying… Read more »
Rick Lipary
YOU again! Why don’t you ever tell the TRUTH!? If you want “positivity,” stop demanding special privilege over male veterans! You, Angela, etc. have obviously never worked for the V.A., and I have. I doubt you have been mired there for 45 years like me either! It is NEVER positive to you insane women, unless it gives YOU the advantage! That is why you are too damn DUMB to come up with a single genuine reason for alienating yourselves from… Read more »
Angela
Angela
Rick, honestly, I do not know what you are even speaking about. I do not expect special treatment from the VA; but however, I would like to live a meaningful life. I want proper quality care for all. No, I have not worked for the VA. As for believing nothing is positive about the VA, unless it is in the advantage of the lady veteran, you are so wrong. I have shared some of my story on Benjamin’s website while… Read more »
Angela
Angela
Rick, what constitutes an insane person? Don’t you think name calling is a bit much? I do not expect a man to ever bow to me or even anyone in that regard. I appreciate the service of any veteran regardless of whether they have been in combat or not. I come from military family as well. My mom’s brother spent 33 years in the Marine Corp and was shot down in the 1st Gulf war. He was held as a… Read more »
Rick Lipary

Come on, Namnibor! How did you get through life without knowing how to spell your own NAME! It’s MORON, you idiot cretin!

Dennis
Dennis

you’re from Candid Camera, arent you?

namnibor
namnibor

For this a candid and unbiased attitude of mind is necessary.

namnibor
namnibor
Oh, Rick- A little Pink Floyd to calm your razor edge senses: “Lost for Words Lyrics I was spending my time in the doldrums I was caught in a cauldron of hate I felt persecuted and paralysed I thought that everything else would just wait While you are wasting your time on your enemies Engulfed in a fever of spite Beyond your tunnel vision reality fades Like shadows into the night To martyr yourself to caution Is not going to… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

I take it you were deprived of classic Bugs Bunny cartoons so you lost entirely the significance of the word ‘maroon’.
Please go hug and pet a sentient being today but do not be surprised if that cat or dog shows fangs, and I hope it’s a female representative of the species.

Donna
Donna

Wow Rick!!! You are truly an ignorant ass! Yes, I am a woman and your statements are highly inaccurate! Go to another blog site where they will high-five you it sure as hell won’t be here!

Rick Lipary

@Donna: Do me a favor and go to hell! Please take all the other bitches and MANGINA simps with you! I knew you were the typical self interested liberal “woman” the minute I saw the word wow, which has been a highly unsuccessful vehicle for trying to disparage conservative males for years! Everything I said was totally true, and you are a SUPER unwomanly flea male without even the guts to admit how poorly male veterans are treated at V.A.facilities!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
“Congressional Committees Want Answers on Tomah VA Hospital” from: “WisconsinWatchdog.com” dated: Dec. 7, 2016 In my opinion, *asking* VA for anything is a waste of time. How many times have we heard this? How many times have we heard, quote: “We, (referencing Congressional representatives), can’t arrest, try or convict anyone!” Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, (by convening a Grand Jury, handing down indictments, convening a court date, trying the accused and handing out sentences), they will continue to… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
@crazy elf- Right on. In my opinion any good VA Secretary worth their salary would go on national TV and apologize for maggots, sepsis, secret wait time lists that killed some Veterans, et al, and NOT making gooblygook VA public relations excuses for their actions and bite the bullet. This way the American People can be entirely in the loop of the systemic and systematic torture of Veterans while receiving fat bonuses for doing so. We need a huge helping… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@namnibor, As I’ve said before, I do believe this is the *reason* why President Elect Trump is having a hard time finding someone to be Secretary of VA!
I read where he’s added some other names, I believe three, to the list.
He’s definitely going to have to appoint someone who will turn this “failed VA” around. It ain’t gonna be easy!!!!!!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
@Rick Lipary, The only people who “…commit to division among the citizens…” are the Liberal Left Wing Extremists! The VA, in all its fine glory, wanted the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton (aka; “The Butcher of Benghazi”), to succeed this past election cycle. It did not happen. GET OVER IT! (Just as Obama told WWII vets to “…get over…” Pearl Harbor yesterday!) “Women veterans DO go through as much, if not more, than their male counterparts!” This has been established by… Read more »
Rick Lipary
Dude, you are a SUPER uneducated nut case! Prestigious AMA and DOD? SERIOUSLY!? REALLY!? The AMA has conspired to raise medical costs, and to force harmful vaccines on us, so that they and their zionist buddies in the American Pharmaceutcal Association can have an endless herd of cow like human patients that they can use for their financial benefit! How can you POSSIBLY be so uneducated, backward, stupid, and poorly read that you don’t GET this!? The DOD NEVER misses… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

“Rick Lipary” could easily be a anagram for “Pricky Liar”. 🙂

“Language is a virus from outer space”–Wm S. Burroughs

Rick Lipary

AWWW! Poor wittle Namnibor is all ass hurt! Wicky did’nt MEAN to hurt his itty bitty wittle feewings! AWWW! LMAO.

namnibor
namnibor
You have no conception of sardonic or otherwise humor do you? “Ass Hurt”? Nope. Your type that would denigrate female Veterans on Dec. 7, the Remembrance Day of Pearl Harbor is beyond repulsive. If you are ever in need of being extracted by Fire Dept. personnel off a ladder and shoulder in order to escape certain death by smoke/fire, you must be so incredibly hateful of woman that if that EMT happened to be a professional female firefighter, would you… Read more »
Rick Lipary
Check out my posts, idiot! They were in response to YOUR sarcasm and sardonic insults! I know all ABOUT sardonic remarks because I read so many posts from grossly inferior morons like YOU! Yes, it is Pearl Harbor Day, and that is why the obsession with female veterans when almost ALL the peope killed in combat are males, is even MORE weird! It is females and their MANGINA supporters like YOU that are denigrating MALE veterans by ignoring our huge… Read more »
Rick Lipary

@Crazy: Yes, you did make your point, as reading your pathetic second grade posts, I can tell that you must be ON “crystal!”

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
@Rick ‘Limpdick’, After reading your response to my first comment. I see you can’t bring yourself to answer a statement with facts to back up your diatribes. Your childish responses to everyone, is evidently a way to make yourself look important! Yet, that in no way is what’s occurring! You also do not have an understanding, or have information, concerning what you believe to be factual. “Utube videos” are a great resource. As are DoD research sites, as is the… Read more »
Rick Lipary

@Crazy: Did’nt read your post, because THEY, like you , are stupid and childlike. As for “limp dick,” I would tell you to pull down your “panties” and talk man-to-man. Unfortunately, you probably left your Wheaties prize electron microscope in your cardboard box in Shanty Town, so you would’nt be able to FIND yours, you little walking advertisement for Viagra!

namnibor
namnibor
Were you beat-up by a gang of lesbians or something? Why the hate? Woman in the Military have for a long time been in key positions, including B-52 Pilots and I knew quite a few female F-15/16 pilots and Female Crew Chiefs–serving exceptionally. Not only supportive roles but woman are indeed Fallen Warriors *wherever* they may fall in the military, same as the men and I dare say the woman have to still combat attitudes such as yours, which means… Read more »
Rick Lipary
SERIOUSLY!? REALLY!? Don’t you have the roles reversed? You are the one beaten up by lesbians, which explains why you insist on being a Milquetoast living up flea male crack. I love women, dumb ass! Why do you think I was married for 35 years? That pretty much shows that I know my way around! I just hate lesbo man haters and their ridiculous MANGINAS like you that want special privilege for female veterans over the male veteran actual warriors,… Read more »
Lem
Lem

Not to disparage gays, but many gay men hate women

namnibor
namnibor
Just like male Veterans, all any female Veteran wants from the VA is the “World Class” medical care with dignity and respect that regardless of one’s gender as a Veteran deserves rightly, nothing else. We ALL want that as Veterans. I also would love an ignore button function as your pollution is not good for anyone’s potential PTSD and other chronic health issues but you are so self-serving you cannot see that can you, Pricky Liar? Now, piss off.
Dennis
Dennis
Rick, If you think it is such a great deal to be a woman vet, then apply for pre-op hormones, grow some breasts, lose body hair, and hope that VA reauthorizes sex reassignment – or use Choice program to become a woman. Imagine the life you will have with an entire agency on your side! If you are right, why wouldnt you? Women have it made in the shade, right? Trying to be positive here Rick. It would be best… Read more »
Rick Lipary
Well, I see the little bitch boy Dennis is still living up flea male crack! What’s wrong, little boy? Is your bra hurting you? Or maybe your frilly panties or girdle? Oh, I know! You’re on your period, right!? Something is wrong, little bitch boy, because you seem ass hurt about everything, and you are doing what every white knight simp SOB does today, which is throw what SHOULD be his own gender under the bus in favor in favor… Read more »
Marsha
Marsha

No Transgender surgeries period! Not related to military service. We have a hard enough time caring for our WAR veterans.

Lem
Lem
The residents want to get their bona fidos. (or bones). And anyone with over a 50% compensation rate is entitled to 100% free care at or through the VA. By the way these are “WAR veterans”. So the only thing that can stop sex change operations in the VA is Congress. Of course any veteran with less than a 50% combined rating can be denied care for all but his service connected conditions except for ACA conditions.
Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Marsha – Well said, and agree.

Rob D

“The VHA doesn’t have accurate or complete data”. In other words, for upper management (VA, VHA, (insert dept.) ) twisting of words- in common speaking- most management people are not reporting the ongoing problems, and they are mostly lying about the severity of the problems if they do get reported. Some things never change…..

Angela
Angela
Yep, I agree. I have medical issues that the VA are currently blowing off while blowing me off. I am headed to a private doctor this month with my Tricare and hope I can handle paying for some of it. I am a lady vet and I do not get special treatment. I can give you a list. I have been denied Chapter 31 Vocational Rehabilitation for over 20 years. I was denied the Montgomery GI BILL when I contributed… Read more »
Rick Lipary

To further buttress my point. I just came back from the Sioux Falls V.A. hospital, and the SAME thing happened! ANOTHER R.N. who may or may not have known her shit. But, as USUAL, she was argumentative, and could’nt explain what she wanted me to do. So, to know your stuff, but NOT know how to communicate, or to communicate well, but not know your stuff, is UNACCEPTABLE!

Angela
Angela

Rick, I hear you loud and clear. Thanks for message.

Angela
Angela
Rick I wanted to further comment to you to offer a suggestion. I do agree with what you are saying. When you speak to these nurses, and you probably already do this, but I am just adding my take on how to handle them to keep them out of your face. When any provider speaks to you, ask her to break it down on what she needs you to do. Just stand there or sit there in a calm manner… Read more »
Rick Lipary

Angela, as Strother Martin said in Cool Hand Luke, “What we have here is a failure to communicate!” Are you EVER going to understand that what works for women will NEVER work for men!? When a female veteran is insistent, they will talk her DOWN. But when a MALE veteran speaks up, they call the V.A. and city police! I apologize! There must be something I said that you did’nt understand!

Angela
Angela
No Rick, you are missing my point. I know it is a failure of communication. I have always known this. The VA always fails to communicate. They do not care. Check out the recent article about the body of a veteran that Bay Pines in St. Petersburg left in a shower after 9 hours. No communication was done to remove the body to the morgue. More disgrace and disrespect to the veteran population. I say fire them all and start… Read more »
Ralph D Carmona Sr
Ralph D Carmona Sr

Hey Dick, I would love to meet you. And upon our first meeting, I would like to present you a gift. 30 Martial arts lessons right in a row. Don’t worry, it will only take 5-10 seconds so I won’t waste a lot of your time. And you can go back to sucking the VA cock. Only this time without any teeth. TROLL piece of shit

Rick Lipary

I’m not interested in your martial arts, dick head! At least until you graduate kindergarten, you COCKSUCKER! Another keyboad warrior! I live in Sioux Falls, retard, and I am in the phone book. Call me! Another fool who wants to fight, because he has an I.Q. of minus180, and can’t think or debate! Bring your boyfriend WITH you, ASSHOLE!

namnibor
namnibor

You now are considered an official threat. Have fun with that….

Rick Lipary

Screw otf, nomoreboy! Don’t worry, Bobbitt’s ex may know where it is. Just bring your electron microscope!

Rick Lipary

Screw off, no-more-boy. Maybe you and Ralph The Mouth can get together. Save me a piece of the wedding cake, MANGINAS! K?

91Veteran
91Veteran
I am not at all surprised by this given how poor the VA is on a very wide range of performance measures for all veterans. Only a fool would think only male veterans would be adversely affected by poor VA performance. What would be very interesting is to see a GAO study on women veteran access to care outside the VA using CHAMPVA, and how much worse it may be under Choice. I know of a female veteran that goes… Read more »
Rick Lipary
91Veteran: I don’t know if “fool” was a veiled reference to me, because so many people on here seem to have a terrible time with me defending male veterans. Rest assured, I am far from a fool. I just have far more experience with the V.A. than most, because I have been forced to use it on and off for 45 years, and served a summer internship at the Long Beach V.A. Hospital. Working in the E.R., I saw far… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Seriously, get therapy for your womb-bashing. It’s unbecoming as a human let alone a Veteran. If you cannot look in the mirror and see your vile hatred and extreme bias against woman, then seriously, you should be a VA Patient Advocate Maggot.
Your volatile nature will drive everyone away from this site…or is that your ambition all along?
I still call TROLL when I smell it.

Rick Lipary

@No-more-boy: Dude, get a grip on yourself! You know, like you do every night. You are a fucking nut case who can’t fucking STAND anything that differs from what he was taught. I am speaking the truth, little WHIPPED boy! If you don’t like it, fuck off! Learn to accept the TRUTH, idiot, and develop a curious and scholarly attitude. Like I said before, you are strictly Phi BETA Dumba!

91Veteran
91Veteran

My comment here is as my first comment always is on Ben’s posts. I read his article first, may or may not read any linked articles if I am not familiar with the subject, then scroll to the bottom and make my comment before reading any other.

Then read the other comments…if they can be called that.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Rick Lipary – “Because we love ourcmoms and because of the way our moms program us, we are raised to believe that ALL women are wonderful, and can do NO evil! ”

Not in my family. Anyone is capable of doing “evil”, it is not gender-based. I knew THAT by the age of six.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran
@Rick Lipary – ” because so many people on here seem to have a terrible time with me defending male veterans. ” I neither asked for you to defend me, nor do I desire you to. I VERY STRONGLY conclude from your comments that you are being more offensive to veterans of BOTH sexes than defensive to any. “I just have far more experience with the V.A. than most, because I have been forced to use it on and off… Read more »
yesIcomplainloudly
yesIcomplainloudly
Here ! Here ! They (VA) are CERTAINLY aware of how pathetic Choice program is. Doctors at the VA tell me they know it’s a train wreck, and were duped too. HealthNet Federal Services (a private, for-profit company who uses the name TriWest in certain western states) should be dissolved for implementing it, and the VA should be dissolved for not overseeing them administering it like bimbos. My (non-VA) provider through choice sent me two letters informing me they no… Read more »
dart
dart

That’s a snappy picture of Sec. Bob you posted. He wishes everyone joy these holidays, as he did absolutely not-a-thing in the last 2+ years as candymaster. A program like “Choice” would be enough to get anyone fired in this world. Bet your bottom dollar he don’t use it. Not to mention all the Bull & lies he comes up with. Go to Disneyland, Bob,…and wrestle alligators in the lagoon there.

james

Women veterans like male veterans are not getting the proper care, The VA does not care if its women veteran or not, every veteran treated or mistreated means they have to work and that takes time away from Hungry Hippo Games.

I wonder how many Female veterans have spoke out about their treatment and how many of those have been reported to the Illegal Disruptive Committee.

Angela Johnson
Angela Johnson
James, you are absolutely correct. I am a lady veteran. From my observations, both men and women are not treated with quality care overall. Every time I deal with them, I am forever having to assert myself and question them about their procedures. I always have to go behind them because they make mistakes and in the past I have had to correct them. Really and truly, though, if one does not try to watch out for themselves, there are… Read more »
james
I was speaking to a VA employees brother and he told me his sister told him, that she could hear the Veterans and Clerks going at it for what ever reason. I advised him, that those clerks thst report the Veterans as being Disruptive or yell back at the Veteran, Is in the wrong position ! Employees working in a Clinic or Hospital setting are suppose to receive training on how to great people and not escalate the problem, They… Read more »
Angela
Angela
Yes, James, I totally agree with you. When vets go for care, yes, congenial customer service needs to take place between the clerk, nurses, doctor, and the veteran who is seeking medical attention. A positive attitude should be displayed towards the vet. Really it takes more energy to display a mean and unwelcoming attitude towards someone. I realize though this is socialism in its finest because when they create chaos and disruption, this is how they keep control of the… Read more »
james

Trump stated he will soon tell the country about what he is going to do for veterans, once he does I hope he tells the new person, take no prisoner’s, grab your butt cheeks and get out, your kind are not needed. Your Fired !!!!!!!

Angela
Angela
James, I am anxious to see what develops. Once though, he decides on the leadership, the task of reforming the VA is going to be a very arduous undertaking. This will be one heck of a process. Most of the hospitals, clinics, and most all facilities are understaffed for one thing. This will take time for all aspects to get on board. I could be wrong though. Trump administration and republicans may implement all at once if all his people… Read more »
james
What ever happens I just hope that the VA employees get it, that they are there to assist Veterans get their disabilities and treatment and not make ways to insure veterans must jump through hoops to get what was promised when they signed up to defend this country. If they are under staffed, why are they dishing out millions of dollars to employees as a Bonus, Most companies would tighten their belt and save wherever they could, not the VA,… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

…There simply is no “secret” list…. According to the Letter to the Editor of USA Today, Dated Dec 8, 2016 by Robert A. McDonald & Sloan D. Gibson. Like if your dumb enough to believe that than I have a bridge for sale
http://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=2842#sthash.OAxBsEEz.dpuf

Angela
Angela

James, Amen!!!!! I love your substantive message. I totally agree with you in all aspects.

Rick Lipary
@Angela: Angela, I must say that every time you post, you write a tome! But that is alright. It can be your own form of a V.A. journal, and maybe makes you feel like a catharsis has occurred!. Thank you for your suggestions, and they might work in the real and civilized world, but NOT in the VA., because they hold and have ALL the power, and they KNOW it. To them, EVERYTHING one does is wrong, and if it… Read more »
Angela
Angela
When she did not bother to tell you the name of the place in the VA, Rick hold her to the fire. Make her stop or you stop right there in the hall. Force them to do their job. Hey, I do not care if she is pregnant or not. Continue to point out their communication discrepancies. Let them get mad. Then, if they get tired of being mad and held accountable, then, maybe they might just start to show… Read more »
Angela
Angela

Hey, this one is a little shorter.

Angela
Angela

Trump on Fox Business in Grand Rapids, MI.
7:40 eastern time.

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