Falsified VA Wait Times Data Prevented Access To Veterans Choice

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VA Wait Times

A report issued last week showed numerous VA facilities used false wait time calculations that prevented deserving veterans from accessing care through Veterans Choice.

Those false calculations conveniently showed significantly better wait time numbers than in reality. This same falsity is what led to the wait time scandal at Phoenix VA reported two years ago.

Apparently, that deadly scheme is still in play.

VA Wait Times

The VA wait time tabulation system falsely showed only 5,500 appointments were outside 30 days when the real number was 20,600 appointments.

That data shows VA’s calculation was wrong by 400 percent. How can anything be that wrong without some fraud mixed in?

Wait time data from the VA Health Administration (VHA) and its VISN 6 facilities were analyzed by VA OIG to determine if consultations were properly managed. IG learned 82% of cases evaluated showed wait times were greater than thirty days.

The audit evaluated data from April 2016 to January 2017 from agency locations in Virginia and North Carolina.

Insufficient staffing to schedule consultations was at the root of the problem as was VHA reliance on inaccurate data. “We concluded that VHA and VISN 6 leadership relied on wait time data that did not accurately represent how long veterans were waiting for care.”

IG found 36 percent of new patient appointments took 59 days on average. For veterans who received care through Choice, they waited 84 days for a non-VA consult. Veterans who did not receive Choice care waited 98 days to receive care.

VISN 6 failed to consistently conduct scheduler audits despite VHA requirements to do so since 2008.

VA OIG Wait Times Report

According to the VA OIG summary:

Audit of Veteran Wait Time Data, Choice Access, and Consult Management in VISN 6

We evaluated whether Veterans Integrated Service Network (VISN) 6 provided new veterans timely access to health care within its medical facilities and through Choice, as well as to determine whether VISN 6 appropriately managed consults. VISN 6 did not consistently have timely access to health care for new patients at its VA medical facilities and through Choice. Wait times were significantly higher than the wait time data that VHA’s electronic scheduling system showed. This occurred because VISN 6 and medical facility management did not ensure staff consistently implemented VHA’s scheduling requirements. Inaccurate wait time data resulted in a significant number of veterans not being eligible for treatment through Choice. With respect to those veterans in VISN 6 who received their care through Choice, we estimated that 82 percent of the appointments during the relevant time period had wait times longer than 30 days. This occurred primarily because medical facilities did not ensure they had sufficient staffing resources to provide timely access to Choice care. VISN 6 also did not consistently manage the timeliness of specialty care consults. We concluded that VHA and VISN 6 leadership relied on wait time data that did not accurately represent how long veterans were waiting for care. Access to health care has been a recurring issue in VHA. This audit demonstrates that many of the same access to care conditions reported over the last decade continued to exist within VISN 6 medical facilities in 2016. OIG made 10 recommendations regarding monitoring controls over scheduling requirements, wait time data, Choice, and consult management. The then-Under Secretary for Health concurred with four recommendations and concurred in principle with six recommendations. VHA’s planned corrective actions are acceptable and we will monitor VHA’s progress until all proposed actions are completed.

Are any of you surprised VA is still using falsified data to make it look like wait times are better than they are? How will Secretary Shulkin address this possible fraud?

Source: https://www.va.gov/oig/publications/report-summary.asp?id=3838

cj
cj

Shill-kin: “What wait times? thers no stinking wait times.”
Veteran who had to wait: “Hey Shill-kin? You like fish?”
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CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!
More like Shull-kill! Retired Greg Brady looking mofo! He can take all those BFNs aka Big Fat Nurses and signed them up with their Choice Program (choose a diet) and shut it all down! There is no place in modern medicine where a person, yet alone a veteran should be receiving medical advice from a medical person who resembles a Crunchberry Beast, a Snuffaluffagus ,a Sigmund the Sea Monster, 2 pteradactyls and a decomposing spam sandwich….. it just ain’t right!
namnibor
namnibor

@CorpsmanUP!– LMAO!!!! Yes, some of those RN’s and MD’s are so large that Veterans are in danger again of shrapnel when going to a VA appointment in the event a bee or gnat should sting or bite a VA RN or MD on the ass and all that flubber and buttons and clothing could put someone’s eye out when it reaches that point beyond mass of flubber and law of physics.

cj
cj

@CorpsmanUP!:The last sentence is priceless LOL. Thank you.

VAISLYING INC

SAME SHIT DIFFERENT DAY VETS WHAT DO YO EXPECT AFGE UNUION OWNS @ RUNS VA DEATHCARE FROM SATANIC HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ex va
Ex va
I am not surprised of any falsified data concerning wait times in any system in the va system. If it is going on in Phoenix in a clinic it is going on in many other clinics. There is evidence to prove that this exists in other clinics throughout the va healthcare system. The va uses the same software in all va clinics. Appointments are scheduled the same from philly to Phoenix. Coast to coast. Never a scheduling manager made accountable.… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

…and yet bonuses are still paid based on that BS data.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
another way they get around it is my case with a sinus infection they gave me 3 bouts of antibiotics and told me it was cured which was bullshit because I couldn’t breath out of my one side then a year latter out of the blue PC sends me a letter i need to make a appointment with the ENT doctor, must have had a opening …… i had blood work done the other day and was talking to a… Read more »
CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!
@OLDMARINE, I would get a copy of your records, especially if they called you. Most likely it could have been a ” finding” they deemed “incidental” to try a cover their tracks. The sinus cavity is very unique in which it requires a battery of tests, to rule out other problems. Not only, the source of the infection needs to be pinpointed, it needs quick intervention in some cases. Some are the cause of polyps, some are even fungal in… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I finaly did get the surgery and I feel alot better….the doc told me it was so bad that it grossed out the nurse that assists him all the time.LOL. and thanks for the other info

91Veteran
91Veteran
When I returned from the Gulf in 1991, I kept getting sinus infections so bad my nose would bleed. The VA in OKC would give me antibiotics and send me on my way. That would happen about every 6 months. In 1997, I went to the Madison VA and saw the ENT doc there. He said right away I had a badly deviated sceptum and he offered surgery to fix it. I got the surgery and have not had another… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

We can mitigate the effects of any chemicals and neutralized all types of parasites without using highly toxic drugs and expensive procedures, but only with a very simple and complete protocol that defeats all known and unknown diseases for good, without any long-term side-effects. Find more about it here.

Conquer Fear and Live Free!

namnibor
namnibor

“[VISN 6 failed to consistently conduct scheduler audits despite VHA requirements to do so since 2008.]”

Want to bet all the other VISN’s have also conveniently and consistently failed to conduct *any* audits, as required to perform?

How about using a “watchdog” that is not neutered as VAOIG seems to be and AUDIT the ENTIRE VA SWAMP? These rat bastards simply do not care. Period.

namnibor
namnibor
Also, since 2008, President Obama must have given the VA OIG the duty of fluffing-up the pillows for VA AFGE and upper management SES types, while entirely turning blind eyes to the crack head hookers laying in those beds they are fluffing the pillows-up for….we need a new watchdog with teeth….the current VAOIG seems to only have gums as their dentures were even removed by Obama. Is it time for an entirely new form of checks and balances or did… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

The foxes are watching the masturbation shack.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

namnibor,
Have you read where Obama “stole monies from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to cover his FAILING OBAMACARE!”?
I see a “bubble getting ready to burst soon!”

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

PS,
Obama also funneled BILLIONS of taxpayers monies into a DOJ slush fund to help anti-American non-profits go against our Republic!
Nice guy, huh!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Am I “surprised”? “NO!” As “Ex va” pointed out, it’s been going on for years. I would say decades! Will anyone be held accountable? I doubt it! Until there are many “Honorable” persons in charge of VA, these egregious acts will continue. In my opinion—– this isn’t just a VA fubar! The problem(s) goes deeper than “Who’s running which government agency today?!” We’ve all seen, especially in the past until present, agency after agency, being broiled in controversy and illegal… Read more »
touchavet@gmail.com

7 hours at the North Las Vegas VA and I finally left. 3 Hours at the Baltimore VA and I left. That is just the past 4 weeks.

Dennis
Dennis
“This audit demonstrates that many of the same access to care conditions reported over the last decade continued to exist within…(VA).” Isn’t it astronomical the expense that OIG goes through decade after decade after decade to say simply what Bother Nesler said in two sentences then painted the landscape of America with; VA Lies. Vets Die. Always has been, and always will be. At least until the ocean currents gently lift Titanic from the ocean bottom so that she can… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

May need to add ice cleats to those military issue boot leathers just to be sure proper lancing occurs.

namnibor
namnibor

Off-Topic but will somehow come to haunt Veterans in the fallout:

Was just announced that over 1200 USA Charity CEO’s have received over $1 MILLION PAYDAYS each year over hast 8 years….these are CHARITIES!!!!!!!!!! Want to bet there’s a scam Veteran Non-Profit in that mix somehow waiting to be revealed? I have no doubt whatsoever. Wait for it… I think Obama’s “legacy” is starting to paint its own picture with creamy steamy brown matter.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Well, when Obama essentially allowed federal agencies to extort “fines” from companies and direct those “fines” by donated to left wing groups as Crazy Elf pointed out, it’s no wonder “charity” leaders are seeing million dollar paydays.

Dennis
Dennis
The only show that I ever attended on Broadway was an absolute delight. I was 15 and still in high school but the morons around me felt my genius needed nurturing. So they signed me up for a college course(s) to take place while a resident at Columbia University right smack in downtown New York City. No summer fishing or camping that year for me….fuck the genuises. (And where are the GODAMN PUBLIC TOILETS on Manhattan?!?!? God I had to… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@Dennis: Now, you DO have a ‘Choice” of various “positions” in that proverbial whorehouse, just as the VA has many positions available but the VA’s “Choice” is almost always a prostate cranial variety.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Namnibor,

You forgot the two most important positions at the proverbial whorehouse. The congressional and the senatorial positions both involving out stretched hands to receive payment prior to any services rendered.

namnibor
namnibor

@Seymore Klearly,

I was kind of assuming they could use their outstretched arms quite proficiently while their cranium meets rectum.

Dennis
Dennis

@namnibor

There is no choice for the patrons of a union whorehouse. Customers may indicate the whore that they would prefer, but the union hookers have negotiated a contract based on employee seniority. It dictates that the most senior prostitutes be assigned to your care if your preference has a wait list exceeding 30 days. They are honest about it and don’t offer worn out excuses over it, just worn out professionals who are union strong.

namnibor
namnibor

@Dennis

Larger question: Can you select the whore based upon star performance ratings readily available to avoid the need for any additional antiretroviral medications? I would assume the higher the star rating the lessor concern for the wary. But if it’s anything like the VA, the star rating could be as seriously taken as the Trix Rabbit and marshmallow stars and we know Trix are only for kids. Now I’m hungry for rabbit with stars in it’s eyes.

Windguy
Windguy
The elections are over. Focusing anger on some piss-ant VA Executive du jour has never, and will never improve the VA. It start and stops in Congress. Every one of your congress-persons show up for town hall meetings, pat themselves on the back for intervening on behalf of some vet who made just enough noise to “deserve” that attention of the representative. And people, including veterans politely applaud and pat Senator Douchebag on the back. He smiles, and says “Me… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

listen to ROBERT DAVID STEELE and his way of thinking X C.I.A, now that man has great way of fixing this system

namnibor
namnibor

That’s exactly what we need; a leatherneck hard ass to bring order to chaos. I still say some retired E-9 Drill Sgt. that has been personally screwed over by the VA to take over and turn things upside down. Shulkin and The Three Piggy VSO’s are NOT going to change the system for betterment of Veterans.

Windguy
Windguy
Old Gyrine – thanks for the heads up on Steele. Soo many alt opinions out there, hard to keep up with the same old rubbish. Went to his website – saw an interesting “Memo To Trump”. Rather refreshing. I’ve tried to stay away from conspiracy stuff because it digs up too much of my old stuff, and I know it killed my brother – But, I’ll keep an eye on Steele. Some day I’ll share my flunking a polygraph at… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Hey, Dennis, I read yesterday where a Democrat Judge was responsible for aiding and abetting an illegal immigrant to escape from her courtroom from ICE. Seems this illegal was charged with DUI. ICE was outside the courtroom waiting to pick him up. The (female) judge wasn’t having any of it. So, she (allegedly) helped him escape through her chambers. Now, the State’s Attorney General is looking into the matter. How’s that for news! _____________________ Recently, My left elbow has swollen.… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

P.S.
Dennis, that female judge is in your neck of the woods—- OREGON!

Dennis
Dennis

What are her rates in the horizontal position? I might know her….

Windguy
Windguy
Our local CBOC here in Oregon is now required to see 15 “walk-in” patients per day, in addition to regularly scheduled appointments and annuals. I don’t know that they’re hitting those numbers as we are still waiting for two new permanent doctors. Right now, we’re down to one retired guy. It’s hard to get a doctor (private or VA) to move to the sticks, in spite of insane coastal beauty/hiking/fishing/etc. As for the elbow – is there an open sore… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Windguy,
Where can I get “colloidal silver”? Is it “over the counter” or by “prescription”?
Never heard of it before.
Thanks for the information.

Windguy
Windguy
Elf – it’s OTC – any health food shop will have it. It’s not a vitamin. You can’t take it (orally) for weeks at a time, else you’ll qualify for the next member of Blue Man Group and won’t need makeup like some Utah Congressman did a decade ago. But it is effective. If I feel a cold coming on I can sometimes kill it. Sometimes not. Topical infections – yes – fungi – yes.
namnibor
namnibor
@Crazy elf– A little interesting history on silver and its antibacterial qualities: You know how with most urban sayings or legends there’s an ounce of truth to be had? Well, a saying that is often still used when referring to likes of say, Sen. McCain is that saying of, “born with a silver spoon in his mouth”, was such because the more affluent back in the day had *real* silverware, and by simply using silver silverware, the trace amounts of… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf– I forgot the link: “”https://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=colloidal+silver””

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

HEY WINDGUY do you make your silver or buy it premade. my next contraption on my list is buy one to make it myself,a lot cheaper in the long run. great for infections , i even put some in my dogs water bowl when he’s not feeling well

Windguy
Windguy

OldLeather – absolutely make it myself. Gots me a little silver mine. Pollutes me a little river chemically leaching the silver out of the soil. Even mix in a little mercury and call it all natural.

Jo3n
Jo3n
What’s this, “comments are closed” above the reply box? Oh well, never stopped me before. Dennis is real close. The VA is a little whore house. Albeit with BIG whores.. I cannot get a referral for choice. I’ve asked twice. She just says no. I’m service connected and more than 40miles. Don’t know where to go from here. I also went back through the VA OIG reports. Tons of wrongs, and very little action to correct the problems. If Dr.… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
File an “appeal of clinical decision” questioning and disagreeing with your PCPs decision to withold a Choice referal. They will not have a clue what the hell that is because VA folks are generally at a complete loss just how to deal with ANY official disagreement with them that they cannot put a disruptive behavior flag onto. However, send them a letter, or use secure messaging to call it “an appeal of a clinical decision” and tell them specifically “pursuant… Read more »
Windguy
Windguy

Dennis. I haven’t been in the Roseburg system but 3.5 years. I have noticed a change in Customer Service (for the better) since Paxton took over. I’ve certainly heard about how screwed up it was. I’ve had one success with Choice and one failure due to Tri West idiocy. Time will tell. Paxton allows himself to be directly accessible to help solve problems.

Dennis
Dennis
@Windguy File a criminal Privacy Act complaint with HHS dot gov against Roseburg and see how that changes. Go to the press with malfeasance and corruption and again note any subtle differences…. They might be good at resolving the fight about who gets the last slice of melba toast from the vending machines for you all the way up until you are put on double secret probation for blowing the whistle because the orbidly obese RN got the call on… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
@Windguy Here is a quote from the VISN Grand Pooba at the time Frank Marr regarding an appeal of a bogus Cat One Flag the staff placed on me; “…I am afraid that we take even casual comments like he one you made very seriously at VISN-20, therefor I have decided to uphold the Cat One PRF.” Precisely WHICH casual comment is he even talking about??? More to the point, let me paraphrase for him ‘..we understand that you made… Read more »
Windguy
Windguy
OK Dennis – got your point. Like I said – I’m a newbie. I sought help from VA in St. Paul in 78 – I was in a very dark place. I was told, “next time, pull the trigger”. I stayed away from VA until 2012 when I ran out of $$ paying the NWO Pig Pharma/Pig Med mofos. I came in with lowered expectations. All I can say is that I noticed a change since Doug Paxton came on… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis
WOW do we go through Chiefs of Staff or what??? There has been four involved in this made for apetube special that I am a part of, and now there is a fifth??? They change them almost as often as I change my underwear! Chaudhry was nailed by me personally for earning “technical support” for compliance with The Privacy Act but the previous three were ALL named as well in the newspaper article regarding corruption at the hands of the… Read more »
rick b
rick b
I don’t think anyone should be surprised by this report but the fact is that choice is not the solution. Case in point… I was referred under the choice program for a sleep apnea study, and the choice program people could not find a private provider within 60 miles of my home and that was over a year ago, and I am still waiting. I was also referred under choice for pulmonary rehabilitation and it took 6 months to get… Read more »
Dennis
Dennis

Kind of makes even non smokers want to light up after dealing with them, doesn’t it?

namnibor
namnibor

Unfortunately, some Vets went as far as taking that literally, right outside the VA to their deaths. Still pissed at the VA’s indifference to that.

namnibor
namnibor
Sounds like they illegally billed your Medicare when the VA and Choice Champions dropped the ball or the VA was simply lazy and saw Medicare as a route to save some bonus $$. Correct me if wrong, but when given a Choice Referral you are slapped with paperwork that states upon nonpayment you, the Veteran is responsible, so my guess is when the VA sees someone also has Medicare, they will try to illegally bill Medicare for a Service Connected… Read more »
cj
cj

@CorpsmanUp!: The last sentence is priceless LOL. Thank you.

cj
cj

Dammit, this ^was suppose to post under the second comment on the page.

91Veteran
91Veteran
You are correct that the paperwork says vets are required by law to provide any health insurance when going to a Choice appointment. I have also been told by Choice that a provider cannot bill a veteran because they are prohibited from doing so as it is spelled out in the agreement a provider signs when they participate in Choice, but we all know how that works. I am not surprised that a Choice provider would go to Medicare after… Read more »
Larry
Larry
After Heard or waiting, I got PTSD treatment thru The Choice program,after eight weeks The VA cancelled my treatment, but suddenly found a ptsd treatment team at a clinic. Six Months later IGot a 2250.00 bill from The Choice center I got Choice and the treatment center on The phone togeather and solved the problem. Everytime I use the Choice program I follow the same system. Its like everything else in life. Do ut yourself. Never trust à bureaucrat !!!
rick b
rick b
Along the same lines, I have decided to seek care by a private doctor using my medicare/tricare benefits because the VA is not providing me the adequate care for my service connected asthma/copd which is rated at 100%. And when I last asked for an opinion to service connect my sleep apnea as seconday to my asthma/copd ;allergic rhinitis, or sinusitis, I was told there is no connection. But in researching the subject I found many veterans wer service connected… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
After years of observation, I can tell you a VA researcher in one room could discover the cure for cancer, and the nitwit VA doctor in the next room over would continue treating his cancer patients with leeches. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent on VA research, and the Hep C treatment by Shinazi is the first I have ever heard of veterans benefiting from that research. Of course, vets are only benefiting from it because Shinazi found… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Shinazi definitely leeched the VA and Veterans.

namnibor
namnibor

I will ask again: Where’s that “beer mogul” that was supposed to be VA Sec. Shulkin’s little helper? Did the Three Piggy VSO’s chase him off after drinking all his suds?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

i think he’s still passed out behind the wheel but they haven’t found him yet

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

He is still working with the VSOs on all the beer garden contracts to supply all the beer at all county fair beer gardens.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
What are all of you complaining about the Fuck Up Choice Program? The Program did me wonders. A while back, I broke my wrist. Afterwards, I was supposed to have an appointment with the so called top Ortho Surgeon in a VA facility. I made a couple of appointments to see the top Ortho Doc. Each time, after I went to the appointment, I was informed that the top Doc had to cancel the appointments. The next doctor was an… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
And, I’m running out of fucking time in waiting for these dam politicians to really fix the VA’s problems in which they knew that has been going on for decades. Bullshit. Its about the fame, glory, and the big bucks. I’m a number, disposable. I’ll never encourage a young man or woman to join the military. As active military personnel, we were expected to follow orders in order to complete the objective. Its not the same way with the VA.… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

ANutterVet,
At least you got to use the “Choice Program”!
I have been stonewalled since its inception! Was told I wasn’t eligible because local VHA rules. Or, was it “local regulations”! Like what Ben discussed a few days back!
I’ve never met anyone who goes to the VHA small ass clinic I go to, who has been allowed to use Choice!

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Crazy elf – And it doesn’t matter if we get help or not.

Jo3n
Jo3n

My last go with Medicare, I still owe about $3,000.00. If I can’t get choice, I guess I just go into more debt. More debt is better than dead. I thought the beer meister is gone. Didn’t want to break up his finances.

namnibor
namnibor

I only specifically recall hearing of the Mayo/Cleveland Clinic CEO’s doing some backpedaling but nothing in addition or otherwise concerning the beer mogul.

I still am fully expecting for Benjamin to feature an article when that sunlight shows the real story and the Three Piggy VSO’s instead got fat craft beer contracts for their lodges. Wait for it…….

91Veteran
91Veteran
At one time I thought after the usual chaos of a new President Trump settled down, we would see more action being taken on things like for veterans and other issues. That is not happening because of sniveling leftists that are trying to destroy him or his administration using any manner they can, including pushing outright lies. Now, rather than getting around to other pressing issues such as veterans, he’s having to reissue executive orders on illegal aliens and dealing… Read more »
cj
cj
@91 Veteran: I hope you are right about President Trump. I have put my hope in this man to do as he said he would do. As of late tho, it doesn’t look promising, as far as the va is concerned. It looks like business as usuall, I pray that I am wrong and have to eat crow. I will even make an imported crow sauce to pour over it. Maybe I am just being hyper and asking for too… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

I too hope things settle down to where other things can get done, but I don’t see that happening as long as politicians in both parties would rather play childish games.

namnibor
namnibor

I am really sick of D.C. politics and liberal left crybabies. Kind of makes me think of that scene in funny movie, “Mars Attacks” where the aliens actually interpret the handshake as the most violently aggressive expression and they zap the entire congress critters into crispy congress critters. 🙂

cj
cj

@namnibor: Quit teasing!!!!! But no really…………………that woudl be the best thing to happen……..ever. Man what a thought, Thank you for ending the day with a smile.

james gallegos

they have to pass the Holman rule. when they do ! The VA will be better off, many VA employee’s must go.

91Veteran
91Veteran
Am I surprised the VA is STILL falsifying wait time data? Not at all. Am I surprised those referred to Choice are facing long waits for care? Again, not at all. Am I surprised the IG found the VA is not properly managing Choice consults? Hell no. The VA washes its hands of veterans once they are referred to Choice. Am I surprised the VA claims staffing shortages as the blame for this? I would actually be shocked if they… Read more »
Nelson
Nelson
Obviously the VA doesn’t abide by their own timelines. Filed sf-95. Waited for local decision. Was made two offers that were more of an insult than anything else. Filed appeal to D.C. Have waited over six months with no contact from anyone. If two offers were made it would seem to me that they admitted culpability in this matter. Since I have had no contact,my case is sitting in some a##holes dead file waiting for me to raise my head… Read more »
NafInfPO6
NafInfPO6
Way Off Topic! By going to whitehouse.gov I found a place to e-mail the president. This might be a place for some of you to keep the president informed concerning the serious events coming out of the veterans administration. Mr President. When you were campaigning for the office of the President, and in reference to assisting veterans through the veterans administration, you stated if elected you would immediately set up a “hot line” type phone. This phone would be manned… Read more »
James Gallegos
Share the e-mail. I keep saying our senator’s must pass a Bill where VA employees can be fired. Everyone must contact their senator’s and ask them to vote yes. The VA is just a name. The employees ( Bad employees ) are the cause of everything and it will take some time getting rid of all of them. If it does not pass and employees like graves who tell their employees go ahead and laugh. We’ll see who has the… Read more »
cj
cj
Once again, the sneaky bastards at the va, tried to bill my medicare supplemental, for the last mri of my service connected back injury. The mri ordered by the ve pcp who, looked at the mri and held his arms out, and said “there is nothing more that can be done, it’s in Gods hands now”. I beg to differ, there is plenty more that can be done, you could, unkowinly get me into a self pt class by, forcing… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Sorry for the VA bs that you going through. On a lighter, but serious note, I hereby declare that the above large middle finger iconographic is yours to designate to the incompetent medical providers at your local VA. Bro, the icon is now officially yours. Feel free to paste it anywhere online. Bastards.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: Hey Nutter, how you doing? Haven’t talked with you in a long damn time. I am use to having go through the insurance circle jerk over and over……is that an oxymoron? Or just dejavu? or maybe groundhog day?

Just Another Veteran
Just Another Veteran

Might as well forget about Jake Leinenkugel. He wants to work the program of veteran suicides. There are more issues than just the one needing addressing. Guess he hasn’t read the memo on Veterans dying daily from disturbing health care at the VA. Unless, of course, Ben can be the advisor to the advisor.

namnibor
namnibor

Maybe Mr. Jake Leinenkugel (beer mogul) should be shown the mathematical equation since he announced he would help Shulkin with Veteran Suicides and just start with Jan. 20….that would be 46 Days x 22 Veteran Suicides A DAY=1012 Dead Suicidal Veterans so far since he said he would……..help. Too little, too late. I bet he got a great beer contract for all the VSO Piggy’s Lodges, though. I hope they choke on suds.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Email Trump at “[email protected]

Send your concerns to the above email. Unfortunately, you’ll only get a response that your email was received. You’ll then also get updates about what POTUS is doing. Many times they ask for $$$. I refuse to send any monies. I’m only interested in hearing about things that directly effect the VA. I send my concerns to the above email address. Let POTUS know how you feel. It can’t hurt!

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This has probably been posted on Bens blog before, but just incase, I think everyone should have a copy of this pdf. “http://www.tullylegal.com/forms/Guide_to_Suing_the_Department_of_Veterans_Affairs.pdf” Good luch to all who go for it, you deserve it, and maybe we all need to find a way to sue the damn va. It sure doesn’t look like anyone else is going to do shit for us. Once again we rely upon our own selves.

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