Bay Pines VA Hits Back Against Malfeasance Allegations, FOIA Fees Outrageous
At least one veteran linked to the Facebook group Bay Pines Exposed took time to record and produce on YouTube his questions of Bay Pines VA director Suzanne Klinker about wrongdoing and obfuscation of problems at the facility.
One line of questioning that jumped out at me was the veteran’s question about extremely high FOIA fee for records requested of $1,077. He called out Klinker for obfuscation of malfeasance by hiding behind massive FOIA fees. When asked to reduce the fees, Klinker flatly said, “No, I will not.”
The veteran quickly retorted, “What do you have to hide?”
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Later during the meeting, Pay Pines VA police repeatedly instructed the veteran to sit while others speak even though he was standing in the back of the room where others were clearly standing, too.
I know some of you may be asking yourself, ‘ Slow news day, Ben?”
I picked this story because the use of a recording device while at a townhall struck me as interesting enough to bring up.
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Create Your Own Evidence
Veterans too often rely on word of mouth stories rather than using concrete evidence like recordings, photographs or the like. Where legal, I encourage all veterans to make use of the same or similar recording devices VA uses to spy on its employees and veterans at these facilities.
Be sure such recordings are legal in your state because there are a few states that require consent.
That aside, do not be afraid to push back against the criminal leadership within various VA facilities across the country. They will not stop engaging in criminal fraud, waste, and abuse, and the federal employees at the top believe they are above the law.
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Take action. Do not hide behind the cowardice of anonymity. Get in their face and push back. And do it legally.
While I cannot speak for the quality of the taping linked here, I’ll leave that up to you to assess, I can appreciate the veteran who took the time to record and publish the recording for outsiders like us to watch and analyze.
They have most Americans, congress, afge, the president on their side what can a few veterans do?
05/22/2018
Dear Benjamin Krasue,
https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/freedom-information-and-privacy-act-foia/freedom-information-act-0
for a uniform schedule of fees for all agencies.
(ii) Such agency regulations shall provide that–
(I) fees shall be limited to reasonable standard charges for document search, duplication, and review, when records are requested for commercial use;
(II) fees shall be limited to reasonable standard charges for document duplication when records are not sought for commercial use and the request is made by
Apparently, Bay Pines VA director Suzanne Klinker has Mortgages too pay using the extorted moneys from veterans.
Sincerely,
Don Karg
The best way to deal with the rules against recording is to do the recording publicly and name the recorder as a “news agency” where you can accuse the official who wants to shut you down. More lawyers who are vets must flood the system with complaints, motions, take a vet lawyer with you to the hearings, just once.
extremely high FOIA […]
I’m old and have a short memory. What is FOIA
Freedom Of Information Act
Keeping up with them, there, VA Junkies, VA Drug Dealers and VA Scumbags indicted or prosecuted during the six months between Oct 2017 until March 2018.
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Bradenton, Florida, VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic Advanced Medical Support Assistant Pleads Guilty to Drug Diversion
An OIG investigation revealed that for over six months the defendant changed the addresses of 19 veterans in the Computerized Patient Record System (CPRS) to her own address. The defendant subsequently called the VA’s consolidated mail outpatient pharmacy and ordered refills of the veterans’ Tramadol prescriptions utilizing the veterans’ Social Security numbers and prescription numbers. After receiving the shipments of Tramadol, the defendant changed the veterans’ addresses in CPRS back to their correct address. The defendant diverted 28 shipments of Tramadol, totaling 4,020 pills. The defendant resigned from VA as a result of the investigation.
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Sunrise, Florida, VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic Nurse Pleads Guilty to Drug Diversion
An OIG investigation revealed that the defendant diverted Fentanyl and Versed by substituting saline solution during gastrointestinal procedures. The defendant confessed to the diversion and resigned from VA employment.
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A Former Fresno, California, VAMC Nurse Pleads No Contest to Obtaining a Controlled Substance by Fraud and Deceit
During an OIG investigation, the defendant admitted that she diverted Fentanyl from veterans for her own use.
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Four Subjects Arrested for Drug Distribution at Bedford, Massachusetts, VAMC
OIG and Drug Enforcement Agency agents arrested four subjects and executed two search warrants related to illegal drug distribution at the Bedford, MA, VAMC. A fifth defendant remains a fugitive. The investigation determined that two veterans allegedly distributed crack cocaine from their apartments, located at the medical center, to veterans in VA substance abuse treatment programs. Further investigation identified the veterans’ crack cocaine source as two known Boston, MA, gang members. In addition, the investigation developed evidence that an unrelated former VAMC employee was selling morphine and hydromorphone at the medical center.
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Former Gainesville, Florida, VAMC Nurse Manager Indicted for Diversion of Controlled Substances
An OIG investigation resulted in charges that the defendant diverted oxycodone and hydromorphone and that she consumed these controlled substances up to four times per shift while working at the medical center. The defendant admitted to the diversions and subsequently resigned from VA.
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Two Former Little Rock, Arkansas, VA Medical Center Employees Sentenced After Pleading Guilty to Conspiracy to Possess with Intent to Distribute Oxycodone
The first defendant was sentenced to 30 months’ incarceration, three years’ supervised release, and was ordered to pay restitution of $22,000. The second defendant was sentenced to 48 months’ incarceration, three years’ supervised release, and was ordered to pay restitution of $77,722. An Office of Inspector General (OIG) investigation revealed that both defendants were involved in drug diversion from the medical center.
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Former Orlando, Florida, VA Medical Center Registered Nurse Sentenced for Drug Diversion
A former Orlando, Florida, VA Medical Center (VAMC) registered nurse was sentenced to two years’ probation. An OIG and VA Police Service investigation revealed that for approximately six months the defendant diverted 467 vials of Fentanyl. The defendant tested positive for Fentanyl and marijuana and subsequently resigned from VA. The Florida Department of Health is in the process of revoking the defendant’s nursing license.
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Former Denver, Colorado, VA Medical Center Nurse Pleads Guilty to Drug Diversion
A former Denver, Colorado, VAMC contract nurse pled guilty to tampering with a consumer product and obtaining a controlled substance by deceit or subterfuge. An investigation by OIG and the Food and Drug Administration Office of Criminal Investigations revealed that the defendant diverted approximately 20 syringes of Hydromorphone while at the VAMC and tampered with two vials of Fentanyl while working at a non-VA hospital.
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Former Bradenton, Florida, Employee Sentenced for Drug Diversion
A former Bradenton, Florida, VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic employee was sentenced to four years’ probation. An OIG and VA Police Service investigation revealed that for over six months the defendant changed the addresses of 19 veterans in the Computerized Patient Record System (CPRS) to her own address. The defendant then called the VA’s Consolidated Mail Outpatient Pharmacy and ordered refills of the veterans’ Tramadol prescriptions utilizing the veterans’ Social Security numbers and prescription numbers. After receiving the shipments of Tramadol, the defendant changed the veterans’ addresses in CPRS back to the correct addresses. The defendant diverted 28 shipments of Tramadol, totaling 4,020 individual pills.
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Former Sunrise, Florida, VA Community Outpatient Nurse Sentenced for Drug Diversion
A former Sunrise, Florida, VA community outpatient clinic nurse was sentenced to mental health and substance abuse treatment and two years’ probation after pleading guilty to obtaining possession of a controlled substance by misrepresentation, fraud, forgery, deception, or subterfuge. An OIG investigation revealed that the defendant diverted two opioids—Fentanyl and Versed—by substituting saline solution during gastrointestinal procedures.
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Former Little Rock, Arkansas, VA Medical Center Employee Sentenced for Drug Diversion
A former Little Rock VA Medical Center (VAMC) employee pled guilty to conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute oxycodone. The defendant was sentenced to 30 months’ incarceration, three years’ supervised release, and was ordered to pay restitution of $22,000. An investigation by the OIG revealed that the defendant and two other former VA employees were involved in drug diversion from the medical center.
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Former Reno, Nevada, VA Medical Center Physician’s Assistant Charged with Drug Diversion
A former Reno VAMC Physician’s Assistant (PA) was charged with unlawful supply of a controlled substance and conspiracy. In addition, a non-veteran was charged with unlawful supply of a controlled substance, conspiracy, and obtaining a dangerous drug by fraud. An investigation by the OIG, Reno Police Department, and Nevada Department of Public Safety resulted in charges that the former PA used his position to write over 100 prescriptions of narcotics for personal use. The non-veteran then assisted with the submission and retrieval of the prescriptions from various commercial pharmacies in northern Nevada. Both individuals were arrested on the same day.
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New York, New York, VA Medical Center Employee Arrested for Drug Possession
A VAMC employee was arrested on four counts of possession of a controlled substance. A VA OIG, Housing Authority OIG, local police department, and VA Police Service investigation resulted in charges that during his tour of duty, the defendant would buy and use heroin at a nearby housing development on a daily basis and return to work. The defendant also admitted to purchasing heroin for at least one other coworker.
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Former Martinsburg, West Virginia, Chief of Staff Pleads Guilty to Drug Diversion
An OIG and VA Police Service investigation revealed that the defendant diverted and used approximately 5,225 micrograms of fentanyl by improperly using patient information to access Omnicell (medication dispensing) machines.
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Former Denver, Colorado, Contract Nurse Indicted for Tampering with a Consumer Product and Obtaining a Controlled Substance by Deceit or Subterfuge
An OIG and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Office of Criminal Investigations (OCI) joint effort investigation resulted in charges that the defendant diverted hydromorphone while at the VAMC and tampered with fentanyl while working at a non-VA Hospital.
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Orlando, Florida, VAMC Nurse Pleads Guilty to Drug Diversion
An OIG investigation revealed that for over six months the defendant diverted 467 vials of fentanyl. The defendant tested positive for fentanyl and marijuana, and subsequently resigned from VA as a result of the investigation.
A Few More to top it off during the same period
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Former VA Field Examiner Indicted for Wire Fraud, Theft of Public Money, and False Statements
OIG investigators found that the defendant allegedly drafted a Last Will and Testament for an incompetent veteran and listed himself as the sole beneficiary of the veteran’s financial assets, valued at approximately $680,000. The defendant resigned from employment with VA in lieu of termination. In preparation for trial on the initial charges, it was discovered that the defendant was 100 percent service-connected due to claims he submitted to VA alleging he could not work as a result of mental health issues. The subsequent investigation revealed that during the time frame the defendant claimed he could not work, he was actually working full time. A VA Regional Office review revealed that the defendant should have never received a 100 percent rating. A $142,000 overpayment resulted from the defendant’s alleged false statements and misrepresentations.
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Board Members Indicted for Fiduciary Fraud
Four members from the board of directors of a professional fiduciary company were arrested after being indicted for aggravated identity theft, fiduciary misappropriation, mail fraud, and money laundering. Criminal forfeiture was also ordered for two vehicles and five properties. A VA OIG, Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Social Security Administration (SSA) OIG, and U.S. Marshals Service investigation resulted in charges that allege that the defendants embezzled more than $4 million from their special needs clients to support lavish lifestyles for themselves and their families. The defendants allegedly submitted 34 fraudulent annual VA Fiduciary Statement of Accounts and also created and submitted approximately 700 fraudulent bank statements in support of the annual statements. The loss is $2.7 million.
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Former Veterans Benefits Administration Employee Pleads Guilty to Bribery and Wire Fraud
The OIG found that the defendant fraudulently used the identities of multiple veterans to prepare special monetary payments that resulted in direct deposits of VA benefits into multiple bank accounts held either by the defendant or his co-defendant. The loss to VA is $66,996.
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Former Washington, DC, VA Medical Center Payroll Technician Sentenced for Theft of Government Funds
A former Washington, DC, VA Medical Center (VAMC) payroll technician was sentenced to 24 months’ incarceration, 36 months’ supervised release, and ordered to pay restitution of nearly $312,000. An investigation by the Office of Inspector General (OIG) and Air Force Office of Special Investigations revealed that the defendant, who also previously worked for the Air Force, stole government funds by manipulating employee time cards and financial allotment accounts. The defendant inserted his personal bank account information into the payroll accounts of VA and Air Force employees and channeled additional overtime and special payments to his personal bank account. The loss to the Air Force is about $174,000 and the loss to VA is approximately $137,700.
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Former VA Vendor Pled Guilty to Blackmail
A former VA vendor pled guilty to one count of blackmail. A joint OIG and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation OIG investigation revealed that from February 2014 to April 2015, a former St. Louis, Missouri, VAMC supervisor issued purchase card payments of about $451,800 to this defendant and two other vendors for unnecessary maintenance work. During this time, the three vendors kicked back a total of approximately $136,500 in cash payments to the former supervisor. This particular vendor received an estimated $181,600 in purchase card payments and kicked back an estimated $56,250 to the former VAMC supervisor. The two other vendors and the former VAMC supervisor previously pled guilty and were sentenced.
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Former Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, VA Regional Office Employee and his Father-in-Law Charged in Wire Fraud Scheme
A former Philadelphia VA Regional Office (VARO) employee was arrested after being indicted for wire fraud and aggravated identity theft. In addition, the veteran’s father-in-law was arrested after being charged with wire fraud and aiding and abetting. An OIG investigation resulted in charges that this former VA employee used his position to release fraudulent VA pension award money to multiple co-schemers in exchange for kickbacks. The loss to VA is over $421,000.
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Naturalized U.S. Citizen Sentenced for e-Benefits Redirection Scheme
The defendant was arrested in 2016 after Customs and Border Protection Officers, pursuant to a referral from VA OIG and DHS, conducted an examination of her personal belongings and discovered approximately $102,800 in undeclared US currency. A joint OIG and DHS investigation revealed that the seized funds were the proceeds of redirected monthly benefit payments of VA and SSA benefits recipients and Jamaican lottery scam victims. The defendant was sentenced to time served in addition to two years’ supervised release and six months’ home confinement after pleading guilty to bulk cash smuggling in connection with an e-Benefits redirection scheme. As a result of the initial plea agreement, the defendant also agreed to forfeiture of those funds. The defendant was further ordered to forfeit $3,000 and to pay a special assessment fee of $100. This New York-based investigation, which has resulted in four arrests to date, began as a proactive, nationwide effort to combat the growing problem of veterans’ benefits redirections. It is estimated that over $7 million in VA benefits have been redirected nationwide since 2015.
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Non-Veteran Pled Guilty to Aggravated Identity Theft and Conspiracy
A VA OIG, IRS, and Tampa Police Department investigation revealed that the defendant illegally obtained numerous Tampa, Florida, VAMC records and compromised the personal identifying information for at least 20 veterans by filing fraudulent tax returns and opening up lines of credit in the victims’ names. The defendant pled guilty to aggravated identity theft and conspiracy.
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Jamaican National Indicted for Conspiracy to Commit Wire Fraud
A Jamaican national was indicted for conspiracy to commit wire fraud in connection with an eBenefits redirection scheme. A VA OIG, Homeland Security Investigations, and Treasury OIG investigation revealed that suspects in Jamaica were allegedly engaged in the redirection of monthly benefit payments of VA and SSA beneficiaries. The debit cards containing the benefit payments were subsequently mailed to the defendant in the United States, who withdrew the funds, and after adjusting for his fee, transferred the remaining money back to Jamaica. The investigation also revealed that the defendant was involved in lottery scams, which targeted elderly and vulnerable victims. The defendant was previously arrested in July based on a criminal complaint, confessed to his role in the scheme, and agreed to cooperate. This New York-based investigation, which has resulted in four arrests to date, began as a proactive, nationwide effort to combat the growing problem of veterans’ benefits redirections. It is estimated that approximately $7 million in VA benefits have been redirected nationwide since 2015.
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Former Youngstown, Ohio, VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic Employee Sentenced for Child Sexual Activity
A former Youngstown, OH, VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic employee was sentenced to 53 months’ incarceration and 10 years’ supervised release. An OIG, Ohio Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force, and Homeland Security Investigations joint effort revealed that the defendant used electronic devices with internet connectivity, including his VA-issued computer, to entice an underage female to engage in sexual activity and then traveled interstate to engage in illicit sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl.
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Bail Bonds Agent Found Guilty at Trial of Conspiracy, Theft of Government Funds, and Aggravated Identify Theft
An OIG and IRS CID investigation revealed that the defendant used his bail bonds company to accept over 100 stolen U.S. Treasury checks issued for VA benefits and tax refunds. The loss is approximately $850,000.
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Tomah, Wisconsin, VAMC Peer Support Specialist Convicted of Sexual Exploitation
A Tomah, WI, VA Medical Center (VAMC) peer support specialist pled no contest and was convicted of sexual exploitation by a therapist and misdemeanor charges of fourth degree sexual assault and lewd behavior-exposure. The former employee was sentenced to 24 months’ probation for the misdemeanor charges, while the felony charge will be dismissed pursuant to the successful completion of a three-year diversion agreement requiring the defendant to be engaged in therapy, have no contact with victims, comply with conditions of probation, and not work in any capacity in mental health or substance abuse treatment. An Office of Inspector General (OIG), VA Police Service, and Tomah Police Department investigation revealed that the defendant texted inappropriate pictures, groped, and had sexual relations in his office with female veteran patients.
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Nashville, Tennessee, VA Medical Center Nurse Charged with Assault
A VAMC Nurse was arrested after being charged with assault. An investigation by the OIG and VA Police Service resulted in charges that the defendant assaulted multiple female VAMC employees and had a pattern of inappropriate sexual contact and harassment towards female VA employees.
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Former Memphis, Tennessee, VA Medical Center Nursing Assistant Indicted for a Civil Rights Violation
A former Memphis VAMC Nursing Assistant was arrested after being indicted for a civil rights violation, which charged him with deprivation of rights under color of the law. An investigation by the VA OIG, VA Police Service, and Department of Justice resulted in charges that the defendant assaulted a veteran patient in the psychiatric ward. The defendant was fired from his position as a result of the investigation.
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Former Veterans Benefits Administration Employee Arrested for Wire Fraud, Bribery, and Theft of Government Funds
An OIG investigation resulted in charges that allege that the defendant fraudulently used the identities of multiple veterans to prepare special monetary payments that VA directly deposited into multiple bank accounts held either by the defendant or a co-defendant. The loss to VA is approximately $67,000.
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Former VA Fiduciary Sentenced for Misappropriation
A former VA fiduciary was sentenced to four years’ incarceration, three years’ probation, and was ordered to pay restitution of $1,079,857 ($252,992 to VA) after pleading guilty to wire fraud, misappropriation by a federal fiduciary, and preparing fraudulent tax returns. An investigation by the OIG, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigations (IRS CI) revealed that from 2007 to 2012, the defendant served as a VA fiduciary for eight disabled veterans. The investigation further determined that the defendant embezzled VA-issued funds and used the money for personal expenses, including his own mortgage.
After a decade of battles with the VA, the broken choice program, low ratings despite medical evidence in my favor for max ratings in several connected disabilities, and stuck in a broken appeals process, I hired the Rocky Mountain Law Group to represent me.
I’m not going to another hearing, sitting before a judge, with an incompetent VSO, or a government sponsored representative, who has not taken 1 minute to look over my claims or appeals.
20% is a small price to pay, to have them go back and review all my evidence.
This Bay Pines VA, makes me sick.
Bay Pines VA director Suzanne Klinker.
Come on down and count those bonus bucks you have been receiving for running one of the most inhuman totally incompetent staff and deadliest VA Health Care Facilities in the VA murder machine.
Here are a few of the headlines that your total incompetent and incompetent staff have earned for your total lack of accomplishments at VA Bay Pines during the last year. You truly take the cake when showing how incompetent and deadly VA Health Care is.
You Fricken murdering bi%&h may you truly rot in hell for all of eternity. What the f*#k are you still doing in any kind of position at the VA. Clearly anyone who is above you at the VA need to be fired!!!
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“Misdiagnosed veteran succumbs to cancer, asks family to open hearts”
By: Steve Andrews, WFLA News Channel 8.
May 07, 2018
“https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/investigations/finally-awarded-benefits-veteran-succumbs-to-cancer-va-missed/1164503489”
“For four years, doctors at the VA at Bay Pines said his back pain was arthritis and disc related.”
In January the Veteran went outside the VA to see a real doctor and was diagnosed with Kidney Cancer that had advanced to stage 4. Also, that his back pain was never related to arthritis and disc problems.
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“Hospital Left Dead Vet To Rot”
Dailymotion, last year
“https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6fybev”
“Bay Pines storage of Dead Veteran in the shower overnight and falsified paperwork to try and cover it up.”
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“VA Secretary asks why vets were placed in Bay Pines building without heat”
By: Steve Andrews News Channel 8, Jan 05, 2018
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiBypy-zJII”
Inhuman Treatment of Veterans at Bay Pines
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“Surgical unit shut down at VA’s Bay Pines”
WFLA News Channel 8
Nov 16, 2017
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZDJmsEnfjU”
Due to at least three deaths of Veterans cause within a six week period by an incompetent Thoracic Surgeon heading up the department. Per VAOIG investigation
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“Exposing Bay Pines Director illegally banning veteran from entire BPVAHCS for life”
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0skS_22rW4”
“VA Director, Suzanne M. Klinker has been caught illegally banning a veteran by the name of Carlton Hooker Jr. from the entire Bay Pines VA Healthcare System for life under the authority of 38 CFR 1.218 – Security and Law Enforcement at VA facilities, but court documents show that Mr. Hooker was innocent, but VA Central Office does not want to admit to their violating this veterans civil rights out of sheer embarrassment caused by VA Regional Counsel Attorney, Karen L. Mulcahy.”
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“VA Secretary asks why vets were placed in Bay Pines building without heat”
WFLA News Channel 8, Jan 5, 2018
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm69xmC3euo”
Seymore,
On the misdiagnosing of veterans;
Last year one of my closest friends’ was, in my opinion, MURDERED by a rotten – ASSHOLE – who claims to be a physician at the Daytona Beach VHA.
He didn’t have “back problems”! He had cancer! He didn’t find out until he used his outside healthcare (which he paid for out of pocket)!
Articles like the one you posted today, brings back bad, and some good, memories of him, his wife and me and my wife had over the years!
Bay Pines, like most VHA’s around the country, are murdering veterans! It’s gotta STOP!
Bay Pines VA director Suzanne Klinker.
Come on down and count those bonus bucks you have been receiving for running one of the most inhuman totally incompetent staff and deadliest VA Health Care Facilities in the VA murder machine.
Here are a few of the headlines that your total incompetent and incompetent staff have earned for your total lack of accomplishments at VA Bay Pines during the last year. You truly take the cake when showing how incompetent and deadly VA Health Care is.
You Fricken murdering bi%&h may you truly rot in hell for all of eternity. What the f*#k are you still doing in any kind of position at the VA.
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“Misdiagnosed veteran succumbs to cancer, asks family to open hearts”
By: Steve Andrews, WFLA News Channel 8.
May 07, 2018
https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/investigations/finally-awarded-benefits-veteran-succumbs-to-cancer-va-missed/1164503489
“For four years, doctors at the VA at Bay Pines said his back pain was arthritis and disc related.”
In January the Veteran went outside the VA to see a real doctor and was diagnosed with Kidney Cancer that had advanced to stage 4. Also, that his back pain was never related to arthritis and disc problems.
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“Hospital Left Dead Vet To Rot”
Dailymotion, last year
“https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6fybev”
“Bay Pines storage of Dead Veteran in the shower overnight and falsified paperwork to try and cover it up.”
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“VA Secretary asks why vets were placed in Bay Pines building without heat”
By: Steve Andrews News Channel 8, Jan 05, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiBypy-zJII
Inhuman Treatment of Veterans at Bay Pines
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“Surgical unit shut down at VA’s Bay Pines”
WFLA News Channel 8
Nov 16, 2017
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZDJmsEnfjU”
Due to at least three deaths of Veterans cause within a six week period by an incompetent Thoracic Surgeon heading up the department. Per VAOIG investigation
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“Exposing Bay Pines Director illegally banning veteran from entire BPVAHCS for life”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0skS_22rW4
“VA Director, Suzanne M. Klinker has been caught illegally banning a veteran by the name of Carlton Hooker Jr. from the entire Bay Pines VA Healthcare System for life under the authority of 38 CFR 1.218 – Security and Law Enforcement at VA facilities, but court documents show that Mr. Hooker was innocent, but VA Central Office does not want to admit to their violating this veterans civil rights out of sheer embarrassment caused by VA Regional Counsel Attorney, Karen L. Mulcahy.”
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“VA Secretary asks why vets were placed in Bay Pines building without heat”
WFLA News Channel 8, Jan 5, 2018
From; “military.com”
Titled;
“Senate Expected to Vote This Week on Bill Expanding Private Vets Care”
21 May 2018
By: “Richard Sisk”
“The Senate is expected to vote this week on major legislation to expand the private health care options for veterans. The vote is timed to beat an end-of-May deadline when the existing Veterans Choice program will run out of money.”
“In a tweet Monday, Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Georgia, chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, said, “Great news! The Senate is voting on the #VAMISSIONAct this week.”
“Isakson and Sen. Jon Tester, D-Montana, ranking member of the committee, also scheduled a news conference Tuesday with major veterans service organizations to marshal support for quick passage of the VA Mission Act.”
“The House last week by a vote of 347-70 passed the Mission Act in an effort to get a bill to the desk of President Donald Trump by Memorial Day, May 28.”
“The bill would provide $5.2 billion to extend the current Choice program while streamlining its multiple community care options into one program to improve access.”
“This legislation addresses a number of important pieces of the large VA puzzle, including extending funding for the Choice program that countless veterans depend on to receive care,” Rep. Martha Roby, R-Alabama, said in a statement supporting the House version of the Mission Act.”
“In a statement last week when the House passed the bill, acting VA Secretary Robert Wilkie pushed for rapid full passage.”
“With this strong bipartisan showing in the House, I urge the Senate to bring the bill across the finish line as soon as possible so that President Trump can sign it by Memorial Day,” he said. “Our nation’s heroes deserve a big win, and this bill does just that.”
“Last Friday, Trump announced that he was nominating Wilkie, who had been the Pentagon’s undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness before moving to the VA, to become permanent VA secretary.”
“Trump called on the Senate to move quickly on Wilkie’s nomination, but there was no immediate word from Isakson’s committee on when a confirmation hearing would be held. Wilkie has already gained Senate confirmation for two previous Pentagon posts.”
“Last Thursday, Wilkie signed a $10 billion, 10-year contract with Cerner Corp. of Kansas City to provide electronic health records for the VA that would mesh with those of the Defense Department and private care facilities.”
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There’s a little more in the article.
Of course Isaakson is going to be all excited, and I bet he tweeted that while on his Stairmaster that’s powered by the sweat and tears and bloodshed of Veterans.
Larger Question: How many times does it take for Bay Pines VAMC to make it to top of naughty list before we Vets across the USA simply say…”No more, no way!!!”…?
Seriously, I do not know how to collectively mobilize EVERY VET, not just certain *era* Vets, but every generation of Military Veteran..and…Dependents/Survivors of Veterans…collectively to unite, regardless of political allegiance…just the basic square deal [promise that’s been broken and shredded by the VA and that pesky AFGE Union.
NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My theory stands: The VSO Groups are used in a PsyOps way of KEEPING US DIVIDED…by *era Vets*…and it’s dawned on me that this MUST be by design. Keep all we many diverse Veterans more divided than any group in America…the VSO’s maintain this by a codependent lamprey relationship with the V.A. Titanic…
NO MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ideas? (I’m serious…we all have health issues but if Ron Nessler and VA IS LYING VETERANS ARE DYING billboards could get funded, one would think chartered buses or maybe a million motorcycles…I don’t know but WE Vets…MUST DO *something* or we will be hear reading this shit about Bay Pines and other VAMC scandals year after year.
What say you? Ideas? (if VSO’s we effective, we would not be here yet again, but they are effective in their indifference…just like the VA)
Spelling errors…really bad neuropathy day coupled with these annoying pop-up ads…no other website is this aggressive to my computer.
Active Military: We require tactical nukes to eliminate the offending AFGE meat sacks across the USA. No prisoners, no fair and speedy trial by peers.
Nope.
We require nothing less than a 2018 version of the Nuremberg Trials of post-Nazi Germany….but with more modern methods than a built-wooden hanging gallows…but if the Army Corps of Engineers are up for a challenge, then go for the gallows but be aware you will require carbon fiber rope this time around because these are very well-fed free-range assholes.
Call it an industrial tensile-strength-test of bound carbon fibers. An industrial furniture mishap?
I personally would go with tactical nukes and then repeat to ensure any survivors do not mutate and become even worse worthless assholes. Can’t have that.
A fresh pre-Memorial Day FUCK YOU, VA. RECORD EVERYTHING…Fuck these arrogant out of control assholes!
Did I say fuck you, VA?
The “issues of recording” in Florida have come up in the past. The law is very strict on this issue!
In Florida, “BOTH PARTIES MUST GIVE CONSENT!”
That being said;
If one is recording, and the other(S) does not say anything, that, “by law” – IS “giving consent!”
This even works when anyone calls you!
For example;
When one calls the VA, the VA automated system may – or may not – say “this call is being recorded!” If you continue, then you have given consent!
Where this “issue” becomes murky is;
The VA usually says they are a “federal agency”. Therefore, they DON’T have to follow State Laws! Again, this is an “issue of State Law vs. Federal Law”!
The United States has, for over 160 years, been struggling between State’s Rights vs Federal Rights’!
Yesterday, Ben put a “Blog” on here discussing this very same issue!
s://www.rcfp.org/reporters-recording-guide/state-state-guide/indiana”
“Summary of statute(s): Indiana bars the recording or interception of any telephonic or electronic communication by means of any mechanical or electronic device without the consent of at least one party to the conversation. ”
Who is the “consent of one person.” The person recording can be classified as the ‘consenting person?”
Since the 1970s I have not been able to have one attorney, union heads, etc., tell me the truth about recording and attempts to protect ourselves from lying judges, cops, lawyers, thugs, mafia members, cliques, etc. Not one person will put it in writing that I can record legally and through the many years have been told both ways…no you can’t – yes you can- or ‘if it is of a serious nature the judge may listen to it privately in chambers.” “Either way you still can face civil law suits.” So I honeslty don’t know.
Hobby photography, If someone was caught in a photo or I took photos of people I always had them sign consent and knowledge forms. Birds and critters just flew away so I couldn’t get them to sign consent. Huge crowd scenes I didn’t bother with it like most others taking photos or vacation shots weren’t doing either.
In college I was informed I had to get written permission by profs to record classes and some/most did not approve. Especially the ones who rarely showed up for class or from the wankers and extremist. Even if I had hearing issues or health distractions so I could play back things missed. Much like I need to record things today and dealing with heatlh distractions.
The VA told me I had to get permission to record from anyone and everyone I talked to/recorded (big reason I’d turn the recorder off in waiting rooms then forget to turn them back on when called into Satan’s chambers or exam room), and by MD or staff if I recorded to protect myself from their games. And to recored the constant disagreements or information given me about my health care or of their incompetence to lack of basic knowledge skills. Conflicts of MDs orders or diagnosis, etc.
One PA told me he flat out didn’t give a damn what I recorded, he was covered by federal laws and I was breaking them. Another after I informed him of being recorded on the phone hung up and told others I was recording them. Go figure.
Dealing with corrupt unions, scum corporations, lying state officials/local health department, thugs on or off the job I had to record what I could. get samples, and photo some things. It was for use over OSHA, Dept. O Labor, and more. Death and health issues so I didn’t really care about da laws. But all such evidence was lost by my attorney anyway. As well as having cops through the years knowing I was recording them and other local officials, or after heated meetings, in parking lots after, took my recorder or the tape. So more loss of evidence and proof. Yeah, it was and is, can be, that bad here.
Doing my little public protest thing I am recording it all, have cell phone and recorder handy, openly and hidden, plus a dash cam running. Not like it will help if they come out in force or use their thug tactics but do it anyway. Got my bear spray, unbreakable cane, and stun gun too. By God.
Today since raising some hell over this and telling polticians and town ‘leaders’ several years back I would not be going to meetings or discussing anything with town officials or their activist and thugs without it being video taped, witnessed, no closed door meets, or fully recorded by me or both sides completely. Now it’s illegal to record at the police station, courts, and city hall. Signs are up.
People fear too much and don’t want to get involved let alone seen with people like me, or you. Politicians want our info since they don’t do things annonymously either. Or really care or understand what we are up against.
The many enemies we have all want their foes, whistle-blowers, questioners, challengers to their god-like status, and non-conformist to be outed too. So it’s a toss up. Local Demoncrats, MoveOn or Antifa types want us to be public and open to any attack by any psycho they can muster or get. Or use any corrupt company, business, clique, whomever they can, et al. Real fascism, mob rule, to real terrorism. Stay hidden or anonymous or finally get opressed and attacked so much the only thing left is to go public and see who really cares and what some community and scum VSOs, VA types, lying media, the corrupt, are all about really.
Here in the two faced, hypocritical, lying, totally corrupted state of Indiana and town of Terre Haute… I am for the most part alone in the battle. Fine with me. I hate bullies and abhor corruption. Won’t connect with lying two faced vet groups claiming to be there to help but then start barking demands to play in their sandbox for some support that isn’t there to begin with. Such is life in Indiana. Nothing left to do but to stand up to it or let them have their way and laugh. And for damned sure not going to allow the Marx-feminist, female health care staff/VA, being used by the cowardly boys sitting in offices and councils to do their hate and activism for them (hiding behind skirts) to have the last words. Nope. Label away not going to happen with me.
Not much support going public on FB either or by other ads placed around. Shows the temperature here in America and of Indiana. Sure does. Not worrying much about any of it either.
The sad part of all this is that we have to deal with VA, staff, rogue cops, businesses, code enforcement/power position types, un-caring med professionals, council and commissioners, cliques, clubs and the rest that are Veterans themselves. But being decent, against evil and corruption doesn’t pay well, get them perks, favors from the country clubbers, MSM, good grades in class, support for their own agendas, or get them elected into office or appointed positions. That plus the fact of not having so-called public or community support, questioning, not wanting involved shows the big picture. Sadly, very sadly.
Ive been recording their lies and deciet for years. The problems ive encountered is medical retaliation and medical bullying as a result after they were made aware i was legally recording. My medical records falsified, denial of treatment and care, forced evals to lable me with a personality disorder to deny me comp benefits. The list goes on and on. Refusals to amend and correct my records even when i supplied them copies of the records to the vha. They have no fear or any kind whatsoever.
I feel your pain. Hang in there!!!
True, they ‘all’ involved have no fear and run rampant over our rights and freedoms or access to care. One big network of FUBAR, corruption, retaliation, and SNAFU. Media and VSOs included and main supporters of evil and filth.
You needed a lawyer who could file an immediate motion for a hearing on the record and then a medical malpractice lawsuit. Deluge them with med malpractice lawsuits. These people are so corrupt that they cannot see the end coming for them. They have a mental block which keeps them from seeing that they are corrupt. A good psychiatrist or forensic psychologist can explain this phenomenon better than I can. Forcing your own arrest by the Boob VA cops, (when you are innocent of any crime is a way to get them to back off, cause then they will be sued, themselves, I did this and they backed off after I asked them if they were coming for me,. and they said “Yes” and I said “Good, cause I could use the money”) These VA folks are like the hall monitors in elementary & junior high school, imbued with power and lack of intellect
I assure you, VA is so full of incompetency, corruption, mismanagement, that an Audit and Reformation of VA will pay for itself.