Remember Michele Bachmanns’s attempted $4 billion cut from disabled veterans compensation? Well, “they’re ba-ack…” Except this time they are looking to cut away at our VA healthcare.

Republican Paul Ryan and the House of Representatives are looking to end VA healthcare for over 1.3 million veterans who are Priority 7 & 8. These veterans are the least disabled veterans using the system, usually with disability ratings of 0 percent or no service-connected disability. According to the Congressional Budget Office “Option 35,” the cuts would leave 130,000 veterans with no healthcare alternative. This means veterans with conditions not recognized by the VA, like certain diseases from Agent Orange exposure, would have to pay for healthcare out of pocket if they had not other service connected disability.

Currently, the VA spends over $4 billion yearly to treat these vets, despite co-pays intended to offset the expense.  Ryan’s cuts are intended to save $6 billion off the VA’s tab and $62 billion over the next 10 years. Instead of merely increasing the co-pay or taxing Wall Street, Congress wants to just cut your benefits out, all together.

Disabled American Veterans (DAV) is fighting the across the board cut because many of the veterans in question have come to rely on VA healthcare over the years. In times when healthcare costs are astronomical, these veterans will go without the care they were promised, if the proposal becomes law. DAV voiced additional concerns that this attempt is just the start of a gradual and specifically focused erosion of veterans’ benefits.

Sweet sweetness. What chaps my hide the most is that the reason for the cuts is to reduce the U.S. budget deficit. All the while, two-thirds of major American corporations didn’t pay taxes this year after receiving bailout money and reporting record profits as a result. GE only paid up after receiving a great deal of negative press. These corporations and the executives who run them benefit a great deal from our American system: U.S. Military, Roads and Railways, the Judicial System, Education for workers and the like. So, they get high profits and protection while we get …? Let’s not forget that without our military, corporations wouldn’t be able to set up shop in so many countries internationally. Without tax dollars, the U.S. could not pay for the government contracts awarded to GE, Textron, Google, etc. Yet, they pay a very limited amount in taxes and provide fewer jobs than promised via Reagonomics. It appears this is more of a “Trickle-On Economics” rather than Trickle-Down. I think when Warren Buffett said he should be paying more taxes, I finally woke up to what he meant. Those who benefit the most from a system of government should pay a fair share of the profits they earned. Meanwhile, companies like Google take advantage of tax loopholes only very wealthy corporations can take advantage of while small businesses get hit disproportionately to cover military spending and similar programs.

Now, the House of Representatives has decided to propose cuts to Veteran healthcare benefits while supporting a third war in a country most of us could not even find on a map two months ago (if the proposed cuts went through). Don’t believe the headlines. These cuts are just an attempt to split the oyster shell in half to steal the pearl. Once 1.3 million bodies get cut out of the VA system, politicians will have an easier time justifying further cuts to VA programs. Suddenly, the comprehensive health care you once received will be reduced to occasional physicals and virtual appointments via computer. Count on it. And don’t think the politicians will stop until they gut the whole system. Many of them call benefits like Social Security and VA Disability “Entitlements.” Rather, VA healthcare is really just a cost of doing business. You break it; you buy it. Wall Street and Corporate America need to pony up their share and keep their mitts off our hard earned benefits.

Click here to vote on whether or not veterans should shoulder the burden for deficit reductions.

Update: the cuts discussed above did not make the “markup.” Once the topic was run up the flagpole, public outcry caused the House to go back to the drawing board. Instead, the House cut spending for the US Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims by half of the requested funds from the White House. This court is one of the last resorts for veterans’ disability appeals. Meanwhile, they did allow funding for the VA to police the hand washing of its employees using RFID technology. So while veterans may not get the care they need or the disability rating they deserve, VA employees will not have pee on their hands. At least the government contractor responsible for implementing the system will get paid.

 

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VannWilson 5 pts

US VETS NEED TO STARE CUTTING THROATS OF POLITICANS, THE SUCK TIME  UP TO MEGA COORPATIONA/BANKS/ WAR PROFITEERS OUR EMENY IS OUR GOVERMENT TIME TO GEY MEAN AND NASTY

 

43211 5 pts

 VannWilson Based upon your illerate ramplings I guess you didn't graduate high school, let me guess that was the govt that caused that too!?!

 

I remember the Republican Party came up with the "Contract With America" in 1984. The veterans' contract with America began in 1776 and not only pre-dates the 1984 contract but America's veterans have not reneged on any part of their contract. I once read that the definition of a veteran is someone "...who once wrote a check payable to the citizens of the United States in an amount up to, and including, his/her life." It's time for America to honor the service and committment made by veterans.

Hvacrpro 6 pts

Neo Conservative Corporatist aka rethuglikkkons, will re write history with stealing it, then copying it, then changing it, then taking credit for the good, and then blaming the bad part on the other parties.

and the dumb ones out there will suck it up, and vote for neo conservative corporatism to enslave them.

and then dummy it down to excuse their own selective ignorance.

 

Anti Vet ,is anti American

We as Americans did it wrong for the entire world and 2008 was just the beginning. Any Scandinavian Country has better Educacation and medical services at no cost for their people and we think we are the best. Our child mortality levels are even higher than Japan and our Education sucks and we are so deep in shit or real shit heads that we think of our selfs as superior beings in the world.

The V.A creates dependency on the government. The reason so many Vietnam era vets wound up homeless or hooked on booze was BECAUSE of the existance of the V.A and its socialized medicine. Give the vets the freedom to buy private health insurance, that will give them the incentive to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and live life- not be a slave to a socialist health care system.

Hvacrpro 6 pts

u sound like a typical tea idiot terrorist ,  socialism isnt govt handouts.  in fact its the state govt who is sucking off the feds... and taxing their own... more ignorance from the selective dmfks who are told what to think and say... more fear tea..

drink up .

neo conservative corporatism indoctrination with fear .

There was a time when the concept of a hunger strike was fielded. considering the fact that we are getting screwed either way, bring that idea back on the table. Politicians cringe at that one, gives em the willies....only part of the hunger strike is you gotta be ready to back it up or else you will never be taken seriously again.

Ive never served but my man has and without the benefits he gets we would not be able to afford anything these days. They don't understand how badly they are screwing veterans already let alone cutting benefits. Without the people that have served this country we would be nothing but dust. These congressmen need to open their damn eyes.

We must understand that the republicans will never understand what we do, we give our life, our mind to fight for freedom. Freedom is not cheap, so please veterans think before you vote. Who is really looking out for us , so far looks like the Democrats are doing a great job. Ray Ramos Disable vetetran/ Army Death before Dishonor

Being a former military doesn't necessary mean that the person will vote in favor of military and veterans issues.

call it what you want...if you choose entitlement you are not wrong. when a contract is signed it lays the foundation for future promises in return. without a future promise by both parties you have servitude! so as a former army scout, now disabled, your damn right i am ENTITLED to health care and benefits. this is nothing new, it goes back to our independence and the not yet finished AMERICA as promises to young men that would be taken care in the event they were disabled. just another politician rewriting the laws our founding fathers left. and obama did give vets the largest budget in the last 30 years, now it looks like the old bait and switch...fooled you! same shit..... different asshole!

There is something wrong when a government borrows money to give tax cuts to people who don't need the money and then cut health programs that people need.

As Steve stated: "Medical care is not an entitlement, Medical care was a contractual agreement when I enlisted whether in writing or verbal agreement. So lets not let any politicians say otherwise." It appears to difficult to get a list of who voted for co-pays and who did not.

I served 12 years in Army Infantry, am disabled Veteran. Medical care is not an entitlement, Medical care was contractual agreement when I enlisted whether in writing or verbal agreement. So lets not let any politicians say otherwise. Just like they try to tell you Social Security is an entitlement, when you spend your life paying into it. I think its time for us Veterans to stand up for our country again because she is in need of us once more, vote out all politicians who have authored any cuts to Veterans!

I'm a Republican and I'll stay a Republican. I may not always agree with them, but I sure as hell don't agree with the Demorats!, that's right Demorats! Obama hasn't done jack to help Vets, where did anyone get the idea that he has. He is in the process of destroying this entire country. Veteran's will lose alot in the end because of too much spending on crap stuff, bailing out GE, and Solyndra, etc. I'm a vet so I stand to lose as much as the next guy. Best thing we vets could do for this country is to vote every friken Repuplican and Democrat outta office now and start all over with new, fresh bodies. Preferably ones that have served in the military at one time or another and who has never held office anywhere's because if they have, they're corrupt. Hey, I'd vote for Herman Cain. I like that guy.

Hvacrpro 6 pts

Ask yourself one thing only !  what has a Republican Congress done for this country as Being One Nation Under God to help the President grow the economy and Help you and all Americans?  after all arent we all in this Country together?   clears throat, um well ?

do think before u spout your nonsense tyrannical rants.

3 wars active, hundreds of thousands of men & women serving, all volunteers, and these pricks want to cut the veterans ..... thank god we have young men and women willing to fight and serve this country..... may be the population should stop volunteering to serve. If these politicans keep rubbing our faces in the dirt, may be it's time for some serious protesting, very serious. Remember this nation is well armed!

Ron Paul wants to get rid of the ADA and other accessibility rights and Vets are somehow not getting what that means for VA and Edu and disabled veterans in general. If you have no claim thru yet you are likely a low priority- could you get cut out? - http://www.disabledveterans.org/2011/04/16/republicans-seek-to-cut-1-3-million-veterans/ Other Gop attempts to cut even 9/11 first responders should be a BIG RED FLAG- but many vets are not paying attention. http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2011/09/10/on-911-anniversary-eve-eric-cantor-insists-cuts-to-first-responders-or-no-disaster-aid/

I am the wife of a veteran, veterans should not have to pay for their medical, they put their life on the line for this country, it would be a shame if their medical was taken, what if the young men all decided they would not go fight, and I would not blame them, they should not have to pay for their medical.

I'm a Gulf War Vet and served with 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) First I want to say hello to all my Brothers and Sisters of the Military in all Branches. I am Glad that most Vets are seeing this crap because you all know we were all tricked into believing Republicans took care of the Military and the Vets. The only Person I know who has took care of Vets is President Obama and he has done a lot more than what Congress would give him credit for. We need to keep him and let him finish his work but make Congress pay for the BS they have been doing by sending them a Message by getting rid of Republicans. If we do that then the Tea-Party is gone. We have to band together again yall. AIRBORNE FROM ALABAMA.

All I want to know is, when are Vets going to stop supporting Republicans? I simply don't understand it...Republicans do nothing but scream about how patriotic they are, but have the absolute worst voting records when it comes to Veteran's issues...What gives?!...Wake up people!

And of course Paul Ryan is not a veteran. This is what happens when we think the OTHER guy should have their gov. benefits cut. It always comes 'round sooner or later.

Boycott upcoming elections! Democrats and republicans are nothing but a bunch of filthy born again liars and cons. They don't deserve votes from veterans!

I copied this article and posted it on my facebook page. All responses from Republicans were to jump on me. Only one responded to the article itself and this was his post: "they do. my grandmother worked for the VA hospital I worked for the v a hospital years ago, I know what goes on there they're very self serving. I wholeheartedly support Vets. Unfortunately they are human too and some do take advantage of the system. as in civilian society this robs the truly needy. spend some of your time and energy eliminating waste to support those that truly are in need. remember it will never be a perfect world."

Admist all of this anti-veteran idealologies from republicans...I would serve my country again...which implies that I won't give up America and I won't allow the republicans to [just] take my benefits. My power will present itself when it's time to VOTE!

Join Moveon.com around the country tomorrow! Tell those who can help as well, we need to fight! NOW http://civic.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=250 Senate Action: Don't Destroy the American Dream Your Senators office Friday, July 29th, 12:00 PM Let's keep the momentum going! Please sign up for this gathering right away! Message from your host, Elliot Z.: SEND SENATORS A MESSAGE THEY CANNOT IGNORE: Tell Senators cuts to VA programs is unacceptable Tell Senators NOT to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Tell Senators that using the debt ceiling to destroy Americans' Safety Net is Not what his constituents want him to do. BRING SIGNS WITH "YOUR" MESSAGE

Democrats and Republicans are both to blame. The total VA cost for an average year of a federal spending budget is about 4 percent of the total budget. That is pretty cheap considering all the wars and a massive cold war that lasted for 40 years. Veterans are not expensive. Veterans deserve more respect for sure and it's time for Americans, both Demos and Repubs to put their money where their mouth is. How about a real GI bill. And how about finally providing world class healthcare for every veteran,......every veteran.

Well we have all vented and what have we accomplished. The American people think we are idiots for volunteering in the first place. I entered a very poorly supported military at the end of Viet Nam at 17. I watched as our congress played politics while a young married PFC with a child could qualify for foodstamps because of the crappy pay. In later years while still serving as a reservist I watched as my fellow VA employees worked twice as hard to get half as much done for the veteran because of politics. Now because my neighbors can't afford gas for their Hummers, these wannabe's who never served a cause other than their own, they scream about government waste while the disabled vet and the senior citizen go another year without a pay increase. This while they enjoy a 2 percent cut in their SS taxes and probably never give to charity or even consider how valuable their freedom is. Recently I think the cost is approaching 5000 priceless lives, and at least 30,000 new damaged vets who will play he'll getting any help from the VA, not because it's the VA's fault but because people care more about cheap gas for their RV than they do the young man or woman who stepped up and said " I WILL " to protecting their freedoms. I feel better. Tomorrow I will call Patty Murray's office ( senator from Washington State) and make my voice heard. The disabled vets need a 10 percent increase not a cut in their payment. Let's find a way to band together and gaurantee our disabled veterans some dignity and help.

I am a Viet Nam Veteran. I served with the 1st Air Calvary in 1969 and 1970. I am 100% Disabled and fighting colon cancer. It is and awful thing that these Republicans and Tea Partiers are trying to trying to cut benefits to those of us who served this country and left parts of our minds and bodies on the battle grounds of foreign countries for the sake of freedom. Every verteran, their families and friends should mount a campaign to send House Speaker Boehner, Eric Cantor, Ryan and the rest of that group back home. They do not deserve to lead this great country.

I think this is all b.s. to take from the only ppl that gives them the freedom to make that decision. Our veterans not only risked their lives but also gave their lives so that our politicians could avoid war and go to college. Veterans gave them the freedom to make these decisions...and for them to even have the nerve to want to take away from those who serve how dare them! Everyone needs to write a letter to their congress, sign petitions, make phone calls! We the People need to voice our opinions! Make our selves heard! We are no less important than the rich! if we have to take cuts then they should have to take cuts I dont think it's fair we have to give up paychecks and cuts in pay and they cant even give up a tax break or deduction really? that's sad when greed has taken over the nation! The bible is being fulfilled everyday

Disabled vet here,I plan to vote agianst anyone thats up for reelection this year if he/she is part of this fiasco, both parties are the problem! Taxes should be raised on the people making the millions>>>>>>get our troops home,that would save some bucks>>>look at the countries we are still supporting after the war we fought for them>>>sick of this>>vote out the problems.We use our votes and stick together these clowns can't win.

Me i'm a disabled vet and have fought with VA for over 11 years. After 9 years of fighting they awarded me 10%. Everybody has to remeber our world history in War World II the narzies came for the jews, and no one stood up for them, than they came for the cathalotes and no one stood up for them, and then they came for the regular people and there was no to stand up for them. That is what our government is doing with all of us people but doing it to the vets first, because we are the ones that have fought there wars and they are afraid of us. Take out the vets and you wont have anybody to stand up for the little guy when the time comes. Just keep in mind the old moto, "DE OPPRESSO LIBER" Better known as to free the oppressed. They want to cut our pay (the vets pay) whene two years ago the department of Vet afaires had a total of $24.6 million dollar bounes while some vets were sleeping out on the streets and other vets were fighting with the department of vets to only hear that we are still working on your case. I know this for a fact that at alot of the department of vet. afaires officers they sit on their asses and do nothing at all for at least three or four days out of the week and still get paid their money. I know this because my sister is married to one of them that work at one of the sitews and he was told not to rock the boat if he wanted to keep his job keep his mouth shut.

Paul Ryan needs to get out of politics before he can do any more damage and work in his calling which must be selling used cars. If there's any justice his new boss won't offer health care coverage.

Just one more of the many reasons that I vote Democrat!

Justin, just do a google of most bills that will aid veterans and veteran dependents and see how many Democrats and Republicans voted for that veterans bill. You will find that in most non highly publicized bills Republicans vote against aid to vets, on highly publicized bills they wave the flag as if they are the true patriots. ANNA MAE has it exactly right. Why do most military back the party that stabs them in the back, the Republicans.

Danelle, It was called the Bonus Army. WW I vets were promised a bonus for serving in that war. They never received it. In the spring and summer of 1932 tens of thousands of WWI vets marched on DC and camped of capitol grounds. The Military sent troops there to control the vets. A Second Lieutenant commanding army troops there gave the order to fire on the vets there. That second lieut, soon to become infamous, was none other than good old Douglas MacCarthur (sp). The same Doug who never gave the our Far East air force the order to get our planes in the air when the Japanese invaded the Phillippines, destroying practically all our air power in that sector while they were on the ground. The same Doug who said "I shall return", while he was whisked away from the Phillippines in a submarine leaving I believe General Stilwell to surrender our troops to nthe Japanese. The same Doug who had several retakes of films of his returning to the Phillippines to get it "just right". The same Doug whose only plus to me was his one maneuver in the Korean War. The same Doug who sat in a plane on a Hawaiian airfield waiting for President Truman to leave his plane to go see Doug. Truman did not and waited for little Dougie to come to him, which he did. The same Doug who ignored the massing of Chinese troops on the Yalu River, thinking that the Chinese would not be able to get their armaments across the Yalu. It got bitterly cold, the river froze over and the chinese armaments rolled across the Yalu unimpeded. The same Dougie who thought he could ignore the orders of the President of the US and was fired for that reason. But an Army Lieutenant giving an order to fire on American Veterans is a cross he should bear for eternity.

all the politicans who are in favor of this "HELLISH"WAY OF FUCKING THE VETERANS"needs to be stood against the wall for "DESERTION"

To all the Republicans who is supporting this proposal to FUCK OVER THE VETERANS WHO FOUGHT AND WAS EXPOSE TO CHEMICALS LIKE " AGENT ORANGE" which has affected our health FOR LIFE WITH ALL KINDS OF DEATH CAUSING AILMENTS.GO TO "HELL"

What an obscenity. No non-veteran should be allowed to vote on such a bill.

Republican death panels for veterans.

This happened during WWI. The Vets rioted and set up a tent city on the Greens in DC. Took the military to get them out. The thing the politicians have to remember.. You don't piss off the people that KNOW how to fight a war.

Everyone who wants to hold political office should be mandated to serve at a minimum 4 years in actual military service, not some skate duty with the Air National Guard. Then maybe they would know what they are doing.

Russo Dunbar I am so sorry. I miss understood your post. I am just so freaked out about what is going on in congress.

There are caring people in Wisconsin that Thank you for your service!

Cut the pay to Republicans in the Congress and Senate. That's probably the same amount of what it cost to continue helping the Vets. I think the time has come to take away the Republicans ability to make decisions on our behalf. It's time registered voters be given the right and authority to vote on all issues instead of Republicans or Democrats. The politicians have too much power and make too much money to be trusted. They can't get along with each other so why do need them. There are 150 million registered all of which could vote on the issues affecting our society via phone, internet,fax, CB,Hamm Radio and in some areas smoke signals. I'm sure 150 million voters would do better than the 524 individuals that are doing the task now.

Here is link for Justin. I must admit, I posted myself before things that turned out to be wrong: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_accuse_veterans_of_selfishness_and.html

They make Us Disabled Veterans fight with the SYSTEM for 20 or 30 YEARS, just to get the benifits that we deserve,even when the injuries are written in black & white, or like me sent home with my teeth in my hand, but yet still have to fight for years for medical treatment, and they think it's OK to take it away in a DAY !! THAT'S OUR FINEST POLITICANS ! THEY GET FULL BENIFITS FOR LIFE JUST FOR ONE TERM OF SCREWING US, SO HOW ABOUT CUTTING THIER BENIFITS/HEALTH CARE, THEY WERE NEVER IN HARMS WAY, OR FIGHTTING WITH THIER LIFE !

If he wants to cut the budget he should start with reducing HIS medical benefits. He can start by buying his own health insurance instead of the FREE care congressmen receive. The rich always think the way to balance the budget is to take away from the poor and weak. It may be legal, but it should be criminalized. Let the rich start paying for something for once. Get off the backs of vets.

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