ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL – Journalists Falsely Report VA Care Better Than Private Sector

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VA Care

Journalists appear to be asleep at the wheel in light of false reports about the sham RAND study telling readers VA care is as good or better than the private sector.

“Better than the private sector,” some of you may be questioning? That is right.

Like the slight of hand from a magician, the echo chamber of VA took a study comparing outdated studies of VA care comparing Medicare to VA care and report that VA care is now as good or better than private care.

That latter conclusion is well known to be false, but the slight of hand — shifting focus from Medicare to Private Care — did not sway countless reporters in the echo chamber from repeating the erroneous information.

Only here on DisabledVeterans.org did you hear the real deal about the supposed study, which actually revealed a mixed and even deadly review of very poor surgical outcomes.

So the moral of the study here is that routine diagnostic care might be good but do not get any form of surgical care from VA or you will die. At least, that was the case circa 2009 and before. But somehow VA has no new data for RAND to evaluate? How convenient.

RELATED: Better Take A Closer Look At That RAND Study

VETERANS NOT FOOLED LIKE PRESS CORPS

I am proud to say some of my readers here quickly picked up on the magician’s touch and found the flies in the ointment all other journalists missed when reporting on the study.

One veteran, Dennis, found that VA was in tight control of the data and the wording of the study, “They were extremely precise in explaining that the study guidelines, protocol, data sets, and access to records was tightly controlled by VHA and NOT by the researchers doing the study.”

READ IT: Comparing VA And Non-VA Quality Of Care: A Systemic Review

As some of you know, the Veterans Health Administration has maintained tight control over the parameters of RAND’s most recent study, which in fact did not conclude that VA care is equal to or better than the private sector.

Instead, the sham RAND study of VA health care merely evaluated a small sliver of health care data from pre-2010 health care data sets to claim that both forms of health care are on par with each other. But nothing could be further from the truth.

The study compared numerous studies published between 2005 to 2013 in order to find how well VA health care was performing compared to various kinds of private care, mainly Medicare. Keep in mind, there are heaps of differences between the quality of care for someone using Blue Cross vs someone using Medicare, the former being of a higher quality.

But that delineation alone did not prevent many journalists from parroting that VA is of a better quality than private sector care, which is a comparison study that was not truly performed by RAND in this instance.

Meanwhile, the RAND study was actually a literature review and only evaluated studies using data sets that predate the wait list scandal of this decade. The data sets evaluated ranged from 1985 to 2009.

So how can this reflect the present state of VA health care? It cannot.

Further, the studies evaluated merely looked at comparisons between Medicare patient care and VA care, but it did not evaluate private sector care through normal insurance, which would have substantially different outcomes.

Nonetheless, this did not stop those in the press corps from reporting the fake win for President Obama and Democrats.

It was like running a race where your opponents are shackled but no one else knows but you. And then you blast to the media how fast of a runner you are.

Sadly, this is not the first time VA pulled in RAND Corporation to cover its but with a positive spin vis a vis a similar literature review resulting in a similarly tricky conclusion. In 2010, it did the same thing.

COMPARE IT: Comparison Of Quality Of Care In VA And Non-VA Settings

THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS ECHO CHAMBER

Anyway, here are some of the press headlines I found immediately being highlighted by the sheeple at VoteVets and elsewhere, desperately supporting their party ahead of the veterans repeatedly harmed in the corrupt bureaucracy.

Like the Koch Brothers but with even deeper pockets, VA has created its own echo chamber that no doubt will turn on veterans over time.

Federal Times – Rand study finds VA care equal or better than private sector

VoteVets – “While Republicans like Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump push for VA privatization, a new report finds VA health care is often better than or equal to the care offered in the private sector.”

Military.com – VA Provides Safer, More Effective Care Than Other Systems: Rand

ExecutiveGov – RAND: VA Generally Offers Comparable Healthcare Quality To Non-VA Systems

ScienceDaily – Quality Of Care In VA Health Care System Compares Well To Other Settings

None of these headlines are correct if for no other reason than they report the finding in the present tense. All the date was gathered before 2010 even though some of the studies surveyed were published as recently as 2013.

The deceptive use of the present tense in the headlines will give Americans the sense that veterans are whiney complainers. This is exactly what Americans used to think before CNN broke the wait list scandal.

The deluge of negative publicity lasted for years, but now VA is fighting back using modern propaganda called public relations to put out its controlled, taxpayer funded message.

DESIRED EFFECT OF CONTROLLED MESSAGING

Controlled messages like these will have the effect of lulling Americans back to sleep until our next major war.

Veterans will regain the stigma of previous generations. Iraq veterans will be told to eat crud, just like the rest of us.

And the system will continue to grow and veterans will continue to die.

Thanks, RAND.

In essence, the publication was a highly paid PR stunt that rented the clout built up by RAND over the years to help silence dissenters while improving VA’s image to non-Veterans.

So how much did this useless study cost taxpayers?

gary
gary
I’m so damn mad about what happened to me the second time to be a almost killed me with a drug called requip for restless leg I can’t even say I got A5 car accident passed out and it said it took another doctor at a different hospital tell me what was wrong with me there for restless leg the given requip which can kill you I’m so mad I don’t know what to say this but I hate the… Read more »
Viktoria
I concur. I am really mad myself when I found out that the psychiatric drugs are nothing chemical and biological warfare used against veterans and the civilian population as well. I have found out that 1 out of 9 people are on these dangerous drugs. Is it no wonder why society is in such disarray? I went and filed a complaint on-line with the IG Office of Veterans Affairs and explained to them that this is a genocide of epic… Read more »
Lauren Price
I’m so glad that someone FINALLY came forward and said it! I’ve been saying this for years – that RAND is a bought and paid for shill for the VA propaganda machine and that the general public (AND Congress) are being lied to; with the very deliberate help of the media! The VA’s latest stunt is the new “20 a day” suicide report, done by (you guessed it!) RAND! However, as with ANY data coming out of the VA; one… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

You are right that RAND has done this for years, but I believe Congress has done nothing about this scam because RAND provides a convenient holding tank for their supporters if they can’t get a flunky job elsewhere in government.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Ben, you mentio, “…Controlled messages like these…” “…until the next war!” Well, it seems we’re in the “next war!” It’s a war like nothing we’ve seen before. Bin Laden said, quote; “Fight the Americans like the Vietnamese did!” Remember that war? Do y’all remember how we distinguished who the enemy was? Hard, wasn’t it! This ‘alleged study’ by RAND, is nothing new. A complete waste of taxpayers monies, AGAIN, to receive the desired outcome. RAND did nothing more than tell… Read more »
Vic
Vic
I quit seeking care at the VA after too many visits where arrogant nurses and doctors dismissed my concerns. After my being insistent that they care for me, in a curt military manner we’re used to, I got my record flagged. I came to discover that the psych nurse used our personal conversations to get me flagged. Now I’d like to say that the VA is screwed up where it comes to care, but after leaving the VA I sought… Read more »
namnibor
That blatant disregard for a patient’s concerns certainly exists in the private medical sector as well, as I just came back from an appointment and the medical center I go to states that their Psych Dept. uses “Evidence-Based Medicine”, and reasoning for taking people off medications that have actually worked for PTSD….regardless if it’s actually HELPING…it’s ALL about Big Pharma pushing the next expensive drug, not patients. I walked out of an appointment today mad as hell and made an… Read more »
namnibor
What I was trying to convey is, the private sector medical schools are not exactly feeding the VA Meat Grinder the best prime rib of their classes. Fast Food Medicine feeding a huge gap in Psych care at the VA but also the private sector itself was woefully and still is, sparse in Psych Care that accepts Medicare even…but they SURE gobble-up that State Medicaid $$$$ that’s guaranteed under Obamacare…and the real sham is, Political Refugees here in the USA… Read more »
T
T
I’m finding out the hard way that civilian care is and can be as negative and incompetent as VA styled care. What a mess and I guess it’s not only terrible in Indiana and these far left winging college towns where we deal with attitudes and social ills with so-called professionals and others who just don’t care. While the stupid paper-work piles up and distractions and foolishness is plenty. God it makes me sick knowing, hearing, that so many others… Read more »
James
Vic. I have said it from the start. The VA Is using the disruptive committee to punish veterans at will. ! It’s called retaliation by disgruntled VA employees and until we have someone fight for us. The VA will continue to hurt veterans using this illegal committee. We seen it With crack. No one listened until it effected the kids of the rich and then they took action. ! We are going to have to wait for someone. Who has… Read more »
Darrell
Darrell
Don’t know what VA these people have been going to. Sure not the same one I go to and have been going to since 1993. Oh, yes, there are doctors and nurses who are worthless and I have had my run ins with them, but I did not sit on the sidelines and just stop using the VA. Because, before I started using the VA I remember the private hospitals, there cost, the laying in a bed and care that… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Fucking Troll

James
Give. Them time some employee somewhere will change your tune. ! Really. 20 something veterans killing themselves. Thousands being reported as being disruptive. ! It’s just a matter of time. ! And some veterans don’t have time. Open up you eye’s and ears and really look close at what you see and hear. ! And then say something to correct it. See where that gets you. ! Thousands of veterans and citizens and our VA committee in Washington can’t be… Read more »
redturtle984
redturtle984
Darrel, With all due respect you are at the same time completely correct and irrelevant in at least one your implications. Much like a RAND study my friend lolz. You correctly point out that private hospitals exist for the financial benefit of the workers there. RAND analysis would indicate that since money is seen changing hands at private hospitals that the stress of that transaction detracts from the overall experience. Since you do not actually SEE the money being traded… Read more »
Stephen LeMaster
Great information, but I don’t agree with Ben’s characterization of Medicare as private sector insurance. I think it should be pointed out that comparing one government program to another doesn’t really give an accurate picture of how VA care would compare to private insurers like BC/BS, United Healthcare, etc. This is a minor point in light of the situation, though. The echo chamber not only exists for this administration, one major administration official, Ben Rhodes (deputy national security adviser), has… Read more »
redturtle984
redturtle984
Stephan You hit a point often seen online but I must relate that it is an impossible task. “We also need to make people give a damn.” is an impossible task my friend. Any task that has the intended goal of changing any other humans opinions or thoughts is just faeiry dust really. Win their hearts and win their minds does not work. It never did. I have noticed however that simple action moves people to,my cause more than forty… Read more »
redturtle984
redturtle984
How about this study? Of all the healthcare professionals in North America, how many have insisted their patients be escorted by police to access care? Let us pretend for a minute that animosity of the treating staff towards the patients is a determining factor in treatment outcome. Let us assume that any doctor who fears and loathes their patients enough to have them tailed by cops fall into the “not so good” healh care catagory. Doctor and treating staff that… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Good coverage of this Ben. Given the headlines you found, this whole thing appears to be a planned operation. VA faces repeated bad coverage in the press. Nothing is slowing it down, not even help from veterans organizations like the Legions Save Our Systems theater. Even Blue Ribbon commissions stacked with hacks whining about criticism and jeapordizing unnamed “reforms” is helping. The plan then is to pitch taxpayer dollars to a reliable organization to produce a carefully prepared report after… Read more »
Jim Jimbo
How many secret waiting lists are there in the private sector? go ask Barry Coates family if his wait was like a ride at Disney land like your director says it is. VA hospitals are nothing but a terrorist target now. I never feel safe while at one. End the VA and put everyone on a medicare or tricare type system. Why do we change our soldiers meds to cheaper formulary drugs once they enter VA care? what kind of… Read more »
Bill
Bill
I am older. I told my kids if they ever thought enlisting they would be finding themselves in a rented canoe headed for canada. What a discusting mess this is. The “list” reminds me of a bad call in baseball, if you complain that you got screwed you get tossed out of the game. The va version of tossing you out is much more serious and you dont get the benefit of the instant replay. I fired the va last… Read more »
James
Try getting on Choise. Maybe they can get you someone to precrible the right medication. Many veterans self medicate. Using alcohol and that and PTSD or other mental conditions do not mix. ! You are going to have to get someone to care for you or you will die of loneliness. ! PTSD and TBI without treatment can lead people down a path. They should not go down. The VA in Topeka Kansas had a very good PTSD program and… Read more »
Bill
Bill

I have not one ounce of alcohol in 25 years.

James
Very good. But it sounds as if you still need help. Don’t loose your family. Don’t let the VA win. ! The Choise is yours and only yours. I have 14 grandchildren and I want to stay alive as long as possible. Because I want to make sure while I’m alive they have what they need. $$$$$ And Me ! I refuse to let the VA win. ! Some of them are sick in the head. But refuse to admit… Read more »
redturtle984
redturtle984
There is an action that only we as vets could do, though it would take a technical type. Vets can access online medical record. I can copy and paste and often have to my media friends who have reported embarassment beyond belief of VHA. I just got news that the Chairman of Roseburg DBC who was outed for misconduct of DBC Roseburg has “retired” and the entry into my own medical record requiring all commmunication be routed through the DBC… Read more »
James
Your. Not paranoid. The employees will and do report veterans as being disruptive and they just have to say it is so and the veterans pay the price. ! Really. What good does it do. It’s not treatment. There is no benefit to the veterans only to the employees making the false allegations. ! Many. Many veterans are having their lives destroyed and being labled. ! In the medical profession. One of the first things they teach everyone. Is going… Read more »
ronald rytter
ronald rytter

If you don’t have or can’t afford any other insurance it may be acceptable, but I have insurance and the VA care system leaves a lot to desire.

Bill
Bill

5 years dor medicare to kick in dor me. I am waiting in quiet excitment for it

James
Jimbo. Your not alone in your thinking about sending our children or grandchildren into harm’s way. Our citizens are not stupid and see through the deceptions the VA are using and word of mouth is very strong ! Anytime. I run into active duty or kids joining. I tell them the truth about the VA and how they will do unlawful things against veterans. In order to deny them of their disability. ! I tell them to send home any… Read more »
redturtle984
redturtle984
If any other group,of people that fall into groups, like teens, whites, blacks, hispanic, asian, elderly, disabled, Jewish, Catholic, or Muslim, were treated with a complete disregard for Due Process, here would indeed be people imprisoned. This is banned by our sacred Constitution. Except for veterans. We make up the special group, that Due Process does not cover. We are worth less than the others judging by Americas continued inaction to come to our aid. Of all the groups listed… Read more »
James
When Trump gets into office. I would like every veteran whom has been reported to the disruptive committee to write to President Trump or to me and I will collect your letters and bound them into s book and give it to him. ! When just one veteran speaks out about the illegal disruptive committee. Seems no one listens. ! If we speak as one voice. All of us would see results. ! I hope anyway. ! I know this… Read more »
Dan F
Dan F
As a totally disabled vet, I receive all my VA healthcare for no charge. Hell, they even pay me travel to go see them. However, I also have Medicare A & B. I refuse to have any major work done at the VA. Why? I have been misdiagnosed, and I have little faith or trust in them. I have never had an issue with using Medicare because I usually am able to find or be recommended to a great private… Read more »
James
Is there a VA hospital with in 40 miles from you. Not a VA clinic. ! Do you know if your 40 miles from a VA medical center. You can call Choise and be seen by a private doctor. I an using Choise for the first time and have learned that if my new doctor needs me to have mri’s ect. They just write a referal and VA authorize the request. You can be seen by a specialist. Give Them… Read more »
Bill
Bill

I am under the understanding that it is 40 miles from any type of va facility. Please clarify? Where did you get your information?

James

From Choise. I called the Denver Vamc and spoke with the Choise program hand they helped set it up.

I live to blocks form s VA clinic. Where the employees ate more of a gang than employees who care About the well being of the veteran.

Denver vamc 1 800 827 1000

Bill
Bill

Thank you. I will call the choice at the number you provided in the am.

James

Good luck and have s great day !

Don Karg
Don Karg
07/20/2016 Dear Benjamin Krause, Hundreds of Newspapers covered up the Treason that has been documented as the 1998 Cox Report, authored by the U.S. Representatives [900 pages]. In 1989, Karlheinz A. Halter and I went to the UCLA Journalist Convention to meet with the Head of the Department that spoke fluent Spanish. We were trying to find out what happen to all the investigative reporters at that time—not a one in California [“all over seas”]. Reporter Pat Maio from the… Read more »
dennis
dennis

The Rand Corp. used to make bullets, bombs, and artillery shells for DOD. Some of those artillery rounds were defects that resulted in a number of friendly fire incidents over in Viet-Nam killing and wounding a lot of men. They’re not using a very good model when comparing VA care to Medicare. This whole thing Rand is spewing is just some more of their propaganda. The majority of the public will swallow all this though, hook line and sinker.

garner
garner

RAND, The VA, the “Media”, Congress, All governments world-wide, Elections, Brexit and the reshuffling of financial centers around the globe. All New World Order to keep control of everyone. Everything has to work in their favor. They insist “all goes well” We are not divided….no sirrr- eee. Bring on the A-bombs.

Don
Don

Rand-the finest studies that money can buy!

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