Louisiana Overton Brooks VAMC Director Removed

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Toby Mathew

The director of Overton Brooks VAMC in Shreveport, LA was removed from duty pending an investigation into wrongdoing.

Last night, Officials from South Central Veterans Affairs Health Care Network confirmed former director Toby Mathew was removed form his position. The agency provided no input as to the reason for the sudden move.

This is the second major move and investigation against director of a VA medical center since President Donald Trump took office two weeks ago. The move apparently came at the behest of local officials seeking support from VA senior leadership.

RELATED: San Juan VA Director Removed

Overton Brooks Toby Mathew Removal Statement

According to a VA statement:

“There is nothing more important to VA than caring for the nation’s Veterans. That care includes protecting courageous employees who expose wrongdoing, investigating allegations of wrongdoing, and taking appropriate disciplinary action when an employee’s actions run counter to our expectations. In keeping with federal law, we promptly and thoroughly investigate all allegations of serious misconduct and, where such allegations are substantiated, observe all due process while we discharge our solemn duty to maintain the efficient and effective operation of the VA.

“Upon receiving allegations of wrongdoing against the Overton Brooks VAMC Medical Center Director, and other senior leaders, the allegations were referred to VA’s Office of Accountability Review (OAR) for investigation as required by VA policy. Effective February 1, the Medical Center Director has been temporarily detailed to the VISN 16 office in Ridgeland, MS., where he will be working in non-supervisory capacity while OAR completes its investigation. Once completed, the evidence will be examined by the appropriate management officials delegated with the duty to take appropriate corrective action.”

Source: http://www.ksla.com/story/34413464/va-confirms-overton-brooks-medical-director-reassigned

namnibor
namnibor
Would this happen to be the same Director/VISN that the VA Medical Assistant beat a Veteran in his hospital bed to death via blunt force trauma? Would THAT be what the locals were trying to garner the VA upper management’s attention about or something entirely different this time? “[The VA has not provided any detail regarding the nature of the allegations against Mathew or identified any of the other senior leaders referenced in the statement. they also have not clarified… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Is today’s steel trap reinforced limited VA statement Isaacson’s new morning exercising without bad VA news policy that Shulkin is following suit with? Almost a non-public statement.

91Veteran
91Veteran
That worthless POS Isaakson is just upset over it becoming public how non existent his oversight is before he finishes taking a dump. As for your question above, I doubt that director was reassigned based on that beating. They ignored that elderly veteran being beaten to death for over 2 years, so nothing from that really would have caused his move. No. I believe he acted like a tyrant. His own staff turned him in, which means they had plenty… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

We also are talking about the VA so stretch your imagination a bit…this now ex-director just as easily could have been spending too much time in the morgue or playing trick or treat at the pharmacy…who knows?!! 🙂

Ex va
Ex va

I knew a va director who at helping veteran homeless and other events wore a cape, hat and carried a can wearing a three piece suit. This was his dress up attire for functions. He looked like Kramer on Seinfeld. I didn’t know who he was i thought he was someone from mental health. He was walking like Kramer showing off his outfit. He was the one over the surgical incidents that they transfered to a VISN position.

Ex va
Ex va

Cane = can. Typo!

namnibor
namnibor

@EX va — I immediately got the mental imagery of Grandpa Munster. 🙂

Ex va
Ex va

@ namnibor, ROFL!!! In a professional environment i was just stunned. I asked someone, “who the hell is that?” They said it is our director. Bizarre!!!

james carbone
THE V.A. “swamp” is obviously not being drained enough …SHULKIN?????? c’mon…..all this other doublespeak isn’t going to work on this veteran…I can’t quite figure what Trump ‘got’ by selling out what he said as far as “taking care of our vets….I am hearing about all the other bullshit he is spewing and nothing at all about we vets….I voted for you Don and now am kicking myself in the ass….same old bullshit about the V.A. and the same old cover-ups;… Read more »
james gallegos
I just returned today from senator Bennett’s office in pueblo, Co. His aid looked at my stack of papers, Evidence to prove that a VA employee falsely accused me of disruptive behavior and did so with the blessing of the Chief of Staff and the director at the Denver VA. I had a cover sheet of about 10 pages that gave the history of how it all went down. I had a complete packet of evidence to support my claim.… Read more »
cj
cj
@james: From my experience, Congressmen, and Senators are worthless. You recite a law, you tell them all your asking to have that law enforced. The V.A. in turn tells them to fuck off, they do, and you are back to square one. One big circle-jerk. No surprise here why so many Vietnam veterans have died of cancer, and all kinds of shit waiting on AO litigation. Then after the courts ruled in the favor of the vets………………they still get the… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Hammer falls = brain splatter.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
If I read the article, and Ben’s blog, correctly, the director is now shuffling paperwork instead of being in charge of a VHA!?!? That the investigation isn’t completely finished, tells me he could get shuffled around to another VHA! Of course, we heard nothing from the committee, asking Shulkin, about this. As a matter of fact, there wasn’t anything asked by committee members about any of the egregious acts committed by VA employees, contract officials, healthcare providers being hired with… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
I am thinking that committee confirmation hearings of Shulkin are as well-rehearsed as any VA Public Affairs statement at this point. Just look how many VA Directors they had to shuffle around (whack a mole 101) in order to just move him to shuffling papers in Missouri. The statement also suggests that *other* upper management in that VISN are implicated in *whatever* this VA fire is and the VA is tight-cheeked about any details. (yes, take that ‘tight-cheek’ to mean… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Yea, namnibor, I gotta feeling this isn’t going to be what we want it to be! Massive firing at many VHA’s and VBA’s nationwide. Only, with all the other bullshit that’s been going on, (ie: RIOTS, VIOLENT DEMONSTRATIONS, etc., I gotta feeling it’s going to take time to see more and more firings at VA’s nationwide. __________________ namnibor, check this out, From: “Girls Just Wanna Have Guns” Published today, (3/2/17). “Liberals are Outraged- President Trump is going to deport illegals… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

namnibor,
Remember this one fact. President Trump’s two official things as POTUS are;
1) To be Commander in Chief of ALL the military.
2) to “…enforce all laws…” (as written in the Constitution.)!

namnibor
namnibor
I am all down for VA fraudsters and abusers and scammers to be FIRED but as this article suggests, as usual, he’s only been REMOVED and so starts the whack a mole game on the V.A. Titanic. The INFECTION yet again has just been relocated to fester and infect another location no matter WHAT role he is performing,…or not. The VA has damaged many a Veteran lives by “Shuffling Paper” and this removed director to shuffling papers does not mean… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

They will only start asking those questions when Isaakson can no longer take the ribbing from his colleagues in the Senate gym while he’s trying to concentrate on not falling off the Stairmaster.

namnibor
namnibor

LMAO! 🙂 🙂

Although it must be a forklift retrofitted to work as a Stairmaster with a gravy boat above with a crazy straw! 🙂

Lem
Lem

This must have been in process before the inauguration. But it bodes well for Shulkin as a VA Sec pick. The OAR is very probably as overloaded as the BVA. So these things take far too much time.

namnibor
namnibor

It does NOT bode well for Shulkin, as it’s another game of whack a mole. He was relocated to a VAMC in Missouri and others swapped around as well. He was not removed as in sent home without pay or even home without pay…just relocated. Same old same old.

namnibor
namnibor

Mississippi, not Missouri, got the initials wrong.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Namnibor, @Crazy elf, @Lem, @Dennis – VA employees even have protection during wrongdoings. If something like this happened in the private sector of a reputable company, he would have been sent home [like @Namnibor stated], with or without pay. The culprit would have been removed from any property in which the company owned until a thorough investigation was completed. This then would be beneficial for the company [VA in this matter], the protection of Veterans, other VA employees, and for… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, you are right on target with you statements. This is just a drop in the bucket to what is wrong in the va medical care system.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va – Would have posted earlier, but my wife and I had to interview our new K9 walker. Per my follow-up reply to your post- All the signs are there. I’ve seen this many times during my experience as a Working Lead Person, Quality Control Inspector, Production Line Designer, and HR Trainer for Prospective Hires with Doctorate Degrees. All positions held in one of the worlds well known pc, printer, and calculator manufacturer. Hint: the business was first started… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@ANutterVet — Yes, a systemic problem needs to be treated like an infection, not continual whack a mole. Corruption breeds corruption. Corrupt ratty rats.

Just *maybe*, these recent “removals” (aka being fired in the real world outside the VA’s dome), is a start of a trend? Popcorn? Peanuts? (however, I doubt the beer mogul supposedly helping Shulkin will share any suds)

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Namnibor – If they are active like our new Prez, then we should see more actions of investigations, removal, and of course, transfers to their best interests. Like bacteria, when the specific gravity of the media, proper nutrition, optimal temperature, and relative humidity are at the appropriate levels or measurement, then for sure the corruption will spread like as easily as bacteria in its initial but lethal growing phase. Since I believe the corruption not only runs deep, it rampant.… Read more »
Lem
Lem

I suspect the current 6th to 8th grade reading level is quite a bit above what you believe, Nutter.

I haven’t seen anything on this thread that my 12 year old grand nephew couldn’t read. He also has the skills to look up acronyms and expanding his vocabulary. Did you just try to put down some you’ve been calling names?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Lem , @Ex va, @cj, @Namnibor, @91Veteran- Hey Lem, you’re the only one that balked at my statement. As a matter of fact, the comments that I’ve received were quite positive. If you think my comment was directed at you, well fucking think on in your own mind. And, why are you getting so offensive? If I was taking about you, like I am now, I say it. A friendly fuck off to you. Not in the mood for your… Read more »
Lem
Lem

I apologize. See, it is not that difficult.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Lem – No worries Brother. Lets just help those in whom we can from our own experience and perspective. At this point, we’re not outnumbered, we’re out powered. We need to tip the scales on these people.

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, i agree with the use of acronyms, i get lost at times myself too. I will try to remember to type out the word first and then use an acronym later. With the latest survey that was on Ben’s blog there is hundreds of people reading these articles.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
Ex va – It’s almost the same as when you visit a website. If its too hard to read, or it makes them confused [especially scratching so much that now the person has a bald spot], they will go somewhere else. It benefits all Veterans if Ben’s blog attains more people that not only post, but they also spread the word so that more people visit. Then when they visit, they aren’t intimidated or confused when they read a post… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, I agree. Need not to turn away or confuse more readers if we want the word getting out.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Ex va – More to come. A little bit at a time. I don’t want to overload anyone. There is a lot of good information that is being shared by Veterans on Ben’s blog. Don’t want to see anyone turned off or confused by reading something that they don’t understand what is being said. Just saying.

91Veteran
91Veteran
ANutterVet, I agree administrators may be talking to each other, but I have another thought. This comment may be long, but I think it would be worth the read. Are some VA managers finally growing some guts and turning on some rats above them? These were other managers who turned him in. Clearly they had enough evidence to get him reassigned. Did they turn him in because someone wants the directors job? Did they turn him in because they are… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@91Veteran – I read your informative read. I’ll respond to your post after some thought. I agree, something is happening in your area, but in mine, no osmosis, yet.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@91Veteran – Hey Brother, I hope it’s the guts of other employees having enough of the way that the system is running, The people on the front line are the best assets in the VA. They have seen a lot of things that aren’t right, and many would like to see positive changes. It might be that as a “sort of cleaning the house” effect is happening, that these employees may be getting enough nerve to speak out. As well… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@91Veteran –Yes, I think like piranha in a school, the union will actually consume each other in a mad feeding frenzy in the congo, as it goes with union swamp beasts.

The delayed onslaught of Trumphobia is bound to make the ratty rats toss each other under the bus and if there’s any reward or bonus involved, definitely union piranha feeding frenzy will ensue.

spiritseeker
spiritseeker

I hope that there is more investigations and action is taken where required. My dad died in a VA hospital. He was literally used as a lab rat. I refuse to go to the VA until it is straightened out.

Dennis
Dennis

Lord,

If shit rolls downhill then I hope your will is that this snowball turns into a giant mountain size glob as it speeds downward, ever gaining more mass and momentum.

Amen.

namnibor
namnibor

@Dennis — If allowed, it may become so large that the shit snowball creates it’s own gravitational field and leaves Earth to infect a galaxy far, far away. It will then be known as the ‘Death Star Shitball” in outer space and maybe get swallowed by a black hole. Done.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Nam, do you mean that they may have moved him because he was facing local charges?
I can’t see the VA trying that crap. I think a prosecutor would get rather cranky over that.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@91Veteran, @Namnibor – If he was removed because of local charges against him, the VA corruption and scandal runs deeper than what we think. Let hope not. Then it means it is engrained politically at the top and at the local level. That’s enlightening.

Ex va
Ex va
@namnibor, 91Veteran, @ANutterVet, the director of the Marion VA Medical Center (concerning the botched surgeries) was transfered to a Veterans Integrated System Network, (VISN) position. They don’t charge people who are apart of killing Veterans thru neglect, abuse and loopholes they can use. They walk free and you can report it and it makes little difference. Believe it. It is beyond sick and has made me sick for so long. If something doesn’t feel right when you go to the… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va, @Namnibor, @91Vetean – And if you have to go to a private sector ER for treatment, and they bill you, plead your case with the billing office. I believe its called something like Charity Care or Compassionate Care Program or some sort. I pleaded my case when I had a myocardial infarction [the grime reaper] in the widow maker artery referred to as the LAD- left anterior descending artery. It was 100% blocked. And, I lost consciousness twice.… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, i thank God you was not at the va. God is looking out for you!!! 🙂

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va – Wife has specific instructions not to take me there for a major emergency. I had stitches put in my index finger when I went to the ER. A cardiologist put them in. He was very professional and did a excellent job. When it was time to get them out, the PCP couldn’t even cut them with the scissors. I had to show her. Now that’s pretty bad. Yea, that day when I had the heart attack I… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, i am glad you have a good wife looking out for you. That is ridiculous that a pcp didn’t know how to take out stitches. Was the pain bad with the heart attack. Some people do not experience pain.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Ex va , @cj- I will never forget the day of my heart attack [myocardial infarction]. For some reason in the morning, psychologically I didn’t feel right. Didn’t know why. It was about 6am. I asked my wife to stay home because I felt strange, couldn’t explain why, so she stayed. Then around 9am it all started quickly; nausea, pressure on my chest, exhaustion. Wife called 911 for an ambulance. They couldn’t get an IV line in for 20 minutes,… Read more »
cj
cj

@AnutterVet, @Ex va: Both of you have had heart attacks?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Yeah, mine was in March 2006. A scary moment.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet, @Ex va: 4th of Jully 2007.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – In what artery was your heart attack? By the way, Lem is acting up and I’m totally not in the mood for his BS.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – It just now registered, July 4. Dam, if someone was going to have a heart attack [HA], strange to be on the same day that we celebrate our Nation’s birthday.

cj
cj

Looking back: I now wish they would have just let me go.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – I know the feeling(s) and their changing ways. R U ok today. Or, does this thought always linger in your mind? Yeah, I’m personally prying because I care about you Brother. What’s going on?

cj
cj
@ANutterVet: I hear ya, with the sleep deprivation, stress, pain, and internal strife, nobody hear needs anymore piled on our plates. Main artery to the heart, two blackages, one 90%, one 99%. After the stenting, the cardiiologist, said they were going to wait for my heart to stabilize, then go back in the following day and another stent on the main artery going away from the heart, it was 87% blocked, BUT…………the good old V.A. chimed in and said do… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj – With 2 stents inserted and no cardio rehab? These people are worst than scum. The things you’ve been through, what Lem is going through, Ex va being treated like crap by being bullied and taken advantage of, others, and myself. Everyday, I’m reminded not to trust these people. I got to tell you, I’ve been getting very emotional dreams by being treated by them. This is the first time that I spoke of this. Their dirty scheming ways… Read more »
cj
cj

Here not “hear”

cj
cj

Blockages not “blackages”…………unless the blockages were in fact black instead of the typical motor oil water mix color.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: Would have been a perfect day for me to go, I am first and foremost a patriot above all else. I stopped worrying long ago, I am ok with the afterlife, I look forward to it as a matter of fact, excited to see it, when that day finally arrives. There is noting left for me here, no dreams left to fulfill, no desires………..nothing. All I want is justice, and when that battle is over, so am I.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Not to pry, and only out of concern, aren’t you married? It’s hard to personally communicate openly.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: Yes, married for 30 years, one son, 28 years old. Your not prying, if veterans can’t communicate openly with each other, then this world is even more fucked up than I originally thought.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – What does your love ones say about your wishes? Going to make a cup of joe. Anyone else want to join me?

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: There is no inpending doom. The V.A and it’s goddam bs, has added years to this battle, it angers me to the bone, the delay they have impossed on me. I now have a better chance of dying of natural causes, than of my own hands. Fucking bastards.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
Cj – They have not fucking heart. This is why I tell them exactly what I observe when I go in for visits. Pops, taught me some good moves to play on these type of people who take the advantage of those who are in need. Fucking dirt bag criminals. Listening to your situation, Ex va’s, Lem’s, James, it never ends. They are wrecking the lives of Veterans. The ones that protected their rights of freedom in the first place.… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va
@cj, @ANutterVet, I have had spasms in my back and thought i was having a heart attack. This week has been rough. Pain really bad. I have heart problems, no heart attack. They have given me nitro for my heart a couple times. Nothing like what you guys have been thru. Cj, glad you are still here. Glad you both are. Cj, it sounds like you don’t have the pain under control. I am that way too. It is bad… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, i will join you in some coffee. I have to watch that too sometimes. Sometimes it helps, sometimes makes my anxiety worse.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – I’ve cut down a lot. Caffeine worsens pain and anxiety. But, I love my java joe.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: Veterans talk to each other about these issues, not family members. There is noway in hell I would ever openly speak about this with them, or anyone else for that matter. I am with you….time for another pot of Joe.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: I think we should end this conversation, I do not want another vet, that may be sitting on the fence, to see this and use it as a justification. Let’s not ever bring this subject up ever again………..for the good of the veteran community.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – OK Brother. But also do me a favor, and not to mention that you’re going to end it and it’s not at all what is happening. Remember you mentioned it before. I understand what you’re saying. As you probably have, I too have lost friends. Brings backs many memories on all sides of the subject matter. Case closed. Milk, sugar, both, or just black for your coffee?

Ex va
Ex va

@ cj, i know what you mean about talking about the issues. I have tried a few times on how bad i can feel. It hurts them so i don’t talk about that. If i hurt bad sometimes i tell them some of it. They don’t want you to go bottom line.

cj
cj

@Ex va: First, good afternoon Ex va. You are on point again, it hurts them. So I use a hear no evil, see no evil approach. I don’t want my dark side to soil them.

Ex va
Ex va
@cj, good afternoon, i did get some sleep and i have been dragging myself today. Hurt all over this weather messing me up bad. Every time i hear someone getting justice it makes me feel good. I am waiting too for my justice. It isn’t easier, the waiting but, i think i will have justice one day. Everything points to no but i am believing it for some reason. I can’t explain it. I feel things are going to change.… Read more »
cj
cj

@Ex va: I am sorry, I didn’t catch that last sentence. Of course they don’t want you to go. I don’t think anyone would wish that on anyone, on that we can agree 🙂

cj
cj

@Ex va, @ANutterVet: It does seem as though a better day is comming as far as the V.A. goes, you can tell a difference in the past year. ANutterVet LOL @ Asinine buttfarting baboons. Now how exactly am I suppose to erase that from me head? I wanna put that on t-shirts, hoodies, and sweats, and hats, for when we march on D.C.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Asinine Buttfarting Baboons is meant to have a stickiness to it.

cj
cj
The chant is a toung twister for sure: Veterans for Justice: REMOVE THE ASININE BUTTFARING BABOONS AND THE AFGE GOONS
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Now that’s a slogan.

cj
cj

I spelled tongue wrong………oh well…………who ever told you I could spell was oviously yanking your chain.

cj
cj

Let me put the jingle to the jangle:

Veterans for Justice
REMOVE
THE
ASININE BUTTFARING BABOONS
AND
THE
A
FG
E
GOONS

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, @ANutterVet, yeah, the baboons keep appearing in my brain with the butt farts. ROFL!!!!! Like the cupcakes in the rain…. I still laugh about that one!!! LOL!!!! It was hard not to view it several times and not end up laughing…..This is a crazy world we live in. We have to laugh about things, take the seriousness out sometimes. I need to go to the store today, not looking forward to it i can hardly walk.

cj
cj
@Ex va: Hey remember, at our age we can get away with an awful lot. Get one of those motorized shopping carts, and either a honk horn, or a ringy bell. and ” accidentally” run into things and make a mess, like a bull in a china shop. Have fun with it, The it might become your favorite new sport………….. ooops sorry, aww damn, crap I didn’t mean to do that, my appologies. hahahaha…………I just might join you, this could… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj, @Ex va – Should borrow one and take it to the VA. Oops, I’m sorry Ma’am. Shootz, I’m sorry again. Shit, I’m not sorry, this really feels good. Forget your dam scripts, I like this better because it works. [then you really learn how to drive one of these carts]. Let me leave my skid mark on your face. Get up, so I can knock you down again. You’ve been doing this to me for to dam long. Payback… Read more »
cj
cj

Ok, guys, I have to join the world for the rest of the day. Will catch you later tonight. Hope all of Bens blog people have a great day. God Bless you all.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj, @Ex va – Yeah, I gotta read through a paper. I try to get back on later tonight.

Ex va
Ex va
@ cj, yeah I remember the mischief… the coughing in school and saying bull___! Yeah, i have run into things with the shopping cart on accident. Those things are hard to operate. Next time i will laugh instead of getting upset. Maybe i can get them to clear the aisles better. LOL!!! They want to put up those little stands in the aisles. Drives me crazy!!! I think we could make that jingle of yours working. JUST SAY HEY, hey,… Read more »
Ex va
Ex va

@ cj, me too. I gotta get somethings done today. Priority!!!!

cj
cj

@Ex va: @ANutterVet: I hope your guys day hasn’t been to bad of a day. @Ex.va, I like your chant better…..it’s good, real good.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Dennis, I hope other VA supervisors or managers are seeing the handwriting on the wall….and start calling out their bosses for their corrupt behavior, or go down with their boss.

Marco Martinez
Marco Martinez
WASHINGTON — The Department of Veterans Affairs abruptly removed the director of a VA Medical Center in Shreveport, La., on Wednesday after a months-long investigation of mismanagement allegations and multiple employee complaints to top VA officials, including President Trump’s nominee to take over the agency, current Undersecretary for Health David Shulkin. But rather than being put on leave pending further investigation, Toby Mathew was transferred to another VA job in Mississippi, a post at a regional VA office that oversees… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

“Special projects” is a nice term for finding the guy a job until they figure out they can either fire him, or shuffle him off somewhere that he can do no damage.

I can’t believe they just shuffle him into another directors job, because whoever signs off on a deal like that will likely be fired if the guy screwed up again.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@91Veteran – This dude should be out of the VA system. Give him dam pay, finalize the termination, and boot his dam ass out the door. Then the VA should send an Alert Bulletin to all medical and treatment facilities. We Want Your Input – The VA is now incorporating a True Open Door Policy. Without repercussions or retaliation, please report the following; any activity that violates VA guidelines, policies, or rules, ill treatment of others [bullying, mobbing, intimidation, threatening],… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

ANutterVet, if they paid a bonus for reporting someone for wrongdoing, it would have to be rock solid evidence of that or union hacks would be lining up to collect after setting up someone.

It certainly would save money in the long run if for nothing else they are not having to pay for harrassment or retaliation settlements.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – That’s the other issue; the dam union. As you know it is very hard to fire a Federal employee. They have better protection than we as Veterans. Now that’s skewed on their end, and screwed on ours. I agree, there would have to be protective measures to stop any false reporting. I really don’t like unions, but then again, I don’t like organizations with poor management. This type of management is running rampant in this country as well.

91Veteran
91Veteran

ANutterVet, I guess I was thinking of a new director getting to a VA that wanted it run properly, and some union thugs setting him up to get rid of him so they could continue their gravy train.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@91Veteran – These crooks know the system. Their probably hooking up and discussing what they’re going to do when some changes are made. Its really going to take some time to reform and reorganize to clean house. We need a Veteran pleaser, and nothing other.

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, what open door policy? I think i heard that shit before…..

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – The door is always closed with the VA, unless your being removed dead or alive.

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, you are correct on all your statements and assumptions.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – Listening to others experience and your own, things start to really fall into a better perspective about the VA.

Ex va
Ex va

My iPad is acting up… geesh…..

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, it confirms a lot that i unfortunately know about the va system. It is wretched and heartbreaking and most of it is just shocking that Veterans are treated this way. I have little peace about the majority of it.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – I’m glad that you post your VA experiences on Ben’s blog. I took a clonazepam earlier, and I didn’t think it would come on so fast.

cj
cj

91Veteran, ANurrerVet, Ex va: Signed back in, and just sitting on the sidelines. Keeping up with the conversation at hand. I’m gonna sit quietly. If you need anything just lob a grenade in my direction and yell catch.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – did you morph already along with your jumping/ java? I’m sloooooowinggggggg doooooooown. Oh my, going to go to another browser page and get some digital feen.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet, @Ex va, @91Veteran,: You know I remember watching a documentary, a couple of years ago. It was about Iraq, vets coming home, and how they were being mistreated by they healthscare system that was suppose to take care of them. This was a documentally filmed in the UK. Apparently we are not the only ones getting fucked over. Just food to upchuck while ya think about it all.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – I think I seen that. One of them were so frustrated, that his face and chest shot is on Ben’s blog. The dude with the blue sweater making fists [no pun intended, late razzing and joking]

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, this is the only blog i feel safe enough to talk on. You guys have been thru too much and it has to change.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj, @Ex va – Ben needs to install 3 and 4 way blogging on his site. I’m missin key.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, it has to change, no if’s about it too many lives are being lost.

cj
cj

@ANutterVet: I did morph…………..into something the V.A. cares even less about.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Sorry Brother, there’s no help for you. They gave the last bit to an incoming immigrant who landed in a Sanctuary City. Clonz is kicking in. May have to Rant out.

Ex va
Ex va

@ ANutterVet, @cj, getting really tired. Bad day here, i need to try to sleep. Checking out…

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj, @Ex va – Get better Brother Ex va. CJ were still looking for help for you. Your like me, no one will take us. Hey, Brother, I’m going to Rant on out of here. My eyes are getting heavy. Lets talk tomorrow?

cj
cj
@Ex va: it does have to change, but getting that monster to change? It brings to mind such an intricate spider web, that is so intricate, I can only compare it to the deep web. How to disassemble such a monster……….as everyone has already said, the union has to go firsr. In the confirmation hearing on Shulkin, he refered to trying to fire someone, but it was ruled “Unconstitutional” ? Whattttttttttttt? So you know damn well he was talking about… Read more »
cj
cj

Okay you guys go rest. and will talk soon. God Bless you all. Goodnight.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, you break up the problems into smaller parts. Make plans to correct, long term plans. The statements they make are false, i do not know how else to say it. Everyone takes their statements as truth and later people discover that they are lies. Everyone can be fired, they make some ridiculous statement and people believe it to be true. No, its the politics, they are in it all together.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
I watched two videos just now. They are pertinent to today’s blog. Why? Because of the way some “RINO’s” are actively seeking to destroy anything President Trump tries to accomplish. And, why “executive orders” are necessary to accomplish such goals. Both videos are from “Next News Network”, “Gary Franci reporting”! First: “New Leaked Trump Executive Order Just Outraged Libs And Put Every Immigrant On Notice!” In this video, Gary Franci discus’s why immigrants, and refugees, are being allowed to be… Read more »
BILL
BILL

I wonder how much relocation money this person received?

Ex va
Ex va

@ Bill, good question, they have to get their bonuses somehow.

Ericka
Ericka
this is why the AFGE Union needs to go in taking 2years to get rid of bad apples!! Let alone the Senior Executives if they are corrupt, retaliate or other should be able to fire them that day! not have them paid leave, shuffle paperwork , which could hurt veterans more! :(, to give another job?? WRONG FIRE THEM!!! if under-investigation laid off if by chance names is cleared then can get a job back , we all know that… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Here’s my opinion, Until President Trump gets his ducks in a row with all the other bullshit being thrown at him, it’s going to take time to weigh in on the VA. I know y’all are waiting and wanting things done immediately, it just doesn’t work that way! I also would like things to take place sooner. Only, I know it’s not going to take place overnight! Look at the upheaval, from the “extreme Leftist RADICALIZED Snowflake Dumbass retards”, happening… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

I am on the same exact page.

The outrage is Shulkin was and has been there for whatever this crap is about in the VISN down there, and trying to become confirmed, yet the VA is continuing to play whack a mole. The VA does not get nor do accountability.
Or, was Shulkin just way too BUSY planning his precious Super Bowl Party to deal with this properly?

cj
cj
I know this is off topic, and I don’t know who mentioned this, elf, 91 Veteran, namnibor, Someone talked about homeless veterans, and it has bee sticking in my crawl ever since. We should DEMAND, that before one red cent is spent on a refuge, illegal, or sent to any other country in the form of aid. That every single homeless veteran, and veteran in need of phyc care, is afforded the abilitly to lead a dignified life. i am… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@cj – Ranting back in here Brother. I agree totally. All Veterans should be helped first. Something is wrong when, as a nation, we are more consumed about immigrants [which has less rights than Veterans], compared to taking care of the ones [Veterans] who protected the rights in which they seek. This is a no brainer.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

this is off topic but has anyone else had a C&P examine at there local VA with a PA

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Here’s another “off topic” comment. It’s about how; “Harley Davidson Forced To Make Major Change Following Anti-Immigration Protest” From, “The Next News Network”, Gary Franci reporting. 3 Feb. 2017 (about 3+ minutes long). I have never purchased a new H-D from a Harley dealer. I refuse to purchase one in the future. Because, it came to my attention a few years ago, Harley Davidson gives MILLIONS of $$$$$$ to the DAV, (Disabled American Veterans). Even when they were contacted, they… Read more »
cj
cj
@Crazy elf: My best friend, since age 5, was vp of Harley Davidson, he wrote the program that crossreferenced all the Harley parts from every year, I can’t remember what they system was called. So a couple years ago, they notified him that he was going to be replaced. They brought in an Indian from India, and to top it off they wanted HIM to train this fuck, to take his job. When Harley fell upon hard times, there were… Read more »
cj
cj

Also, Harley did meet with President Trump yesterday. The meeting was moved from the Milwaukee plant, to the Whitehouse.

cj
cj

“http://the-hog-farm.net/appealed.html”

91Veteran
91Veteran
This is very interesting. I see on the KSLA site another story from Jan 24 about a veteran retired from the Marines in 1996 with a bad knee, with the VA only treating his knee pain with Methadone…which the VA is also cutting back. His regular doctor was forced out because he wouldn’t reduce this vets meds. I wonder if this director being moved is related to that? But Ben’s post suggest it was other VA people making the complaint.… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

Since the VA decided to be particularly secretive on this Friday Dump from the Meat Grinder, it makes one wonder if this something that triggered something *really* Federal, so reason for heavy duty hippo protection?
(yes, I realize the VA is Federal but Federal is usually claimed when it benefits the VA for ‘privacy’ reasons)

Ex va
Ex va

Look at USA Today article dated October 18, 2016, “Exclusive: VA shuffles managers, declares ‘new leadership’. These directors are so protected politically, that is why the are not held to any accountability. They are protected and basically untouchable from any prosecuting area. VAOIG don’t want to get their hands dirty. Excuses, excuses, it is ludicrous and diabolical.

namnibor
namnibor

Yeah, a few times last year the VA was bolting down the shuffled deck chairs on the V.A. Titanic…that’s when they had the swell idea of hiring new head of BVA “Agent Orange Denier” Murphy. WTF?!

cj
cj

Love it!!!!!!!!! “http://louderwithcrowder.com/nigel-farage-destroys-parliament-anti-trump-anti-americanism/”

Al
Al

Next up: Andrew Welch, Director of Albuquerque VA

namnibor
namnibor

My mayor of city of Columbus, OH just signed an Order declaring this city a Sanctuary City…but are calling it something similar to side-step Pres. Trump’s threat about Federal Funds…WTF?!

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – Liberal loop holing. It sure does run deep. They are good at lexical semantics. New names that mean the same thing. More palatable for their buds, taste that is.

namnibor
namnibor

Lots of hipster snowflakes in my city. Not one of them would believe you if you told them we have been at war for 16 years now…inconvenient truths to the granola beard crowd. Rant Out.

Jo3n
Jo3n

A demotion is, is a good thing. One good thing. If I’m not reading about these types of things every day, I go right back to believing it’s all a smokescreen. The VA problems and their crimes against Veterans, their attitudes are so abundant, I should be aware what direction we are heading, real soon. This is the first time in 40years I remember being able to say that. @Ben, I so appreciate your commitment to our Cause.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj – I was on another blog and someone referred to you by stating, Hey, cj stinks. And I came right to your defense and said, “Like shit he does.” An oldie, that my father use to tease me with. Just saying, to cause friendly trouble instead of friendly fire. I’m not looking forward to this weekend. Temp is going down, may be some precipitation. I’ve got those wonderful sub-tropical islands on my mind [Hawaii]. For me, they are hard… Read more »
cj
cj

@ANutterVet: Let the keyboard warriors cyber punch me in the nose, Everyones a tough guy till they run into one. How you doing today ANutterVet?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@cj – Well, well, its up. Are you clear headed? If not, go rinse that mug off with some cold water. Hey, I’m doing better. Last night I had a bout with restless leg. I had to shake my legs in bed to get them to simmer down. Its only about the 3rd time I experienced this in about a year. I noticed I get it when I’ve had a stressful episode. Strange. What I should do, is dance in… Read more »
Crazy elf
Crazy elf

The people I want to see gone, are all those “pretend” healthcare providers. The ones who “bought” their medical licenses from fake universities outside the United States.

Boris C. Hogan
Boris C. Hogan

I don’t give a dam who he/she is. If he was removed for some fuck up he shouldn’t have be doing. GOOD. Now. Who will be the next VA fuck up doing the duffel bag drag???????

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
To All – Here is a generic letter that I’ve been sending to Mayors around the country. Mayor , I see you on the news speaking out about the privilege of immigrants. I would hope that you’d put that amount of energy speaking out about the rights of Veterans to have excellent medical care. I know that has done a fantastic job in helping homeless Veterans to obtain a home, but the unorganized and corrupted medical system affects-effects many more… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

I cut a pasted the letter from an email. It didn’t include everything. I believe you can read between the lines. If you send letters, I suggest patting the Mayors on the back, even if their a dip shit.

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, great letter.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Ex va – Hey Brother, I forgot to thank you for recognizing the letter. Its only an example that other can use or adjust as they deem fit to send to our political leaders, or to those that have any influence on expediently reforming and reorganizing the VA system as a whole. Got to put a flame under those Asinine Buttfarting Baboons.

ed
ed
Until Vincent NG is removed in Boston ( look up his sordid past) I will have not encouragement anything will change. President Trump seems to me has stopped talking about veterans, disabled or otherwise. He will be a fool taking advice from the Big VSO’s and spineless politicians. His pick has said no privatization except the VA is pretty privatized already. The problem is claims and hospital administration. On the claims side just give the Court some teeth that the… Read more »
Al
Al

Putting David Shulkin in as VA Secretary is like more of the same…I can not see where he will be effective, might as well put Sarah Palin in….I hope they get to Albuquerque and boot Andrew Welch…that VA has the worse rating in the entire system.

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