BREAKING: Media Blackout Of Bloody Veteran Suicide Underway

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Veteran Suicide

Veterans are outraged over a weeklong media blackout of a bloody veteran suicide by gun at a VA Medical Center last week that is unreported until now.

Members of the news media have been completely silent about a reported veteran suicide by gun in front of the Albuquerque VA main hospital building. The agency has withheld information from the press with the excuse that they are waiting to notify the family.

However, the suicide was reportedly December 22 and today is December 29. Instead, an inside email circulated amongst staff insists the agency will keep a lid on details until the investigation into the suicide is complete. That was seven days ago.

I contacted the facility yesterday after I received an insider report on the suicide.

The public affairs office there refused to provide information but promised to send an email notice of VA’s official position when it’s ready. That email never came.

A quick Google search with the terms – – veteran suicide Albuquerque – – revealed two articles, but none of them covered this tragic event that took place right before Christmas.

But, unlike VA employees or members of the lapdog media, I do not need to wait for VA’s permission to publish what I know when I know it. News is news, especially when VA does not want you to be informed.

Here is what VA and the mainstream media is not telling you about this veteran suicide.

Albuquerque VA Veteran Suicide

Inside sources reported a veteran stood in front of the main Albuquerque VA hospital building with a gun and shot himself in the head in front of numerous witnesses.

The scene was “very, very messy” and “witnesses were severely traumatized.” Hospital staffers were so traumatized, in fact, that VA called in outside counselors to help them cope with the trauma.

Local reporters are aware of the event from whistleblowers, but VA is stonewalling reporters resulting in the blackout. The agency will supposedly release more information once the family is aware.

These same reporters have dutifully waited to publish anything about it as of now. Meanwhile, they are reporting on Albuquerque VA being demoted from a two-star facility to a one-star facility, the lowest rating VA provides.

RELATED: VA Hospital’s Problems Worse Than Reported

RELATED: Rating For VA Hospital Fell In 2016

I received some of the stonewalling from VA yesterday when I called to verify some of the details I just listed above. The woman I spoke with stated VA would send me an email with information about the suicide. No email came.

Luckily, I did receive the below email to verify the account of the suicide even if it is light on the details.

VA Acting Associate Director Sonja Brown Email On Suicide

From: Brown, Sonja
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:17 AM
To: ABQ All Staff
Subject: Sad News
Importance: High

Dear NMVAHCS Employees,

On behalf of the director, it is with a heavy heart that I send you this note.  A Veteran died in the front of the main hospital, Building 41 last night from a self-inflicted wound.  Because this is an ongoing investigation and to protect the victim’s privacy, we are not able to share any details at this time.

This is a traumatic event for the family of the victim and all of us.  We encourage employees who may need to talk to someone about this event, to contact the Employee Assistance Program at 1-800-869-0276 or www.eapconsultants.com.

The Veterans Crisis Line at (800) 273-8255 (press 1) is available for Veterans who are experiencing a crisis as well as their family members, 24/7.

Some of the signs to look for are:

  • Hopelessness, feeling like there’s no way out
  • Anxiety, agitation, sleeplessness or mood swings
  • Feeling like there is no reason to live
  • Rage or anger
  • Engaging in risky behavior
  • Increasing alcohol or drug abuse
  • Withdrawing from family and friends

Thank you for all the hard-work that you put in everyday to serve our Veterans.  We ask that you please keep the victim’s family in your thoughts and prayers during this difficult time.

Sonja Brown
Acting Associate Director
Chief, Voluntary Service and
Public Affairs Operations

New Mexico VA Health Care System

VA Calls In Non-VA Counselors?

This seems ironic given the obvious reality that the veteran was not receiving adequate mental health care prior to committing suicide. But VA employees traumatized by that veteran’s suicide can receive immediate counseling services from a government contractor?

It would be great if a few readers jumped in to call EAP Consultants to see what they are all about. 1-800-869-0276.

Other Suicides

In the recent past, the news media has been more speedy about reporting on suicides including the veteran who killed himself earlier this year by setting himself on fire.

RELATED: Veteran Who Set Self On Fire Outside CBOC Dies

This present delay seems suspicious given that a public suicide of a veteran in front of a VA hospital is most certainly newsworthy. In fact, any suicide of this kind is generally reported in the news. So why the delay?

I cannot help but be suspicious that this delay in reporting has less to do about the veteran’s suicide and everything to do with VA maintaining the illusion that Secretary Bob McDonald has fixed the agency during his brief 2.5-year tenure.

RELATED: Survey Shows Integrity At VA On Decline Under VA Sec McDonald

RELATED: Harvard Article Got Secretary McDonald Legacy Wrong

Will this report help break through any such deception? It may not, but getting the word out is a great first step to exposing this suicide crisis.

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namnibor
namnibor

Sad news. Too freaking bad about those “traumatized VA employees”. I have an idea, how about giving them a dose of their own freaky medicine and place them all in an old drive-in movie area to huddle like rats and have VA Telemedicine Psych Services projected en-mass to all the rats at once.

Again, the VA only cares about it’s own image while hiding falsely under skirted guise of waiting to inform the family…BULL SHIT VA! The VA is likely keeping this under wraps as to not foul McDumbass’s chances of staying-on as VA Sec. Nothing shy of it.

I should not have read this story before bedtime. No snow or snowflakes to smash for therapy in my area, but I know of some VA employees that need smashing. WTF?~!

91Veteran
91Veteran

Good point, and such a double standard.
Allow immediate access to outside counselors for face to face counseling for being on the premises when a veteran commits suicide.

A veteran who likely sought counseling himself for trauma suffered over days or weeks, and was told a 2 week wait for a telemedicine appointment was the best they could do.
Sonja helpfully included the veterans crisis line, either for VA employees to learn and pass on to veterans or for their own employees, which is doubtful.

The real question now is, how many VA employees will have claims approved for PTSD within a month?

Along with the other question of why the media all over the nation seems so quick to suck up to the VA and help hide their dirty laundry.

Perhaps media outlets in ABQ need to be contacted and ask why.

CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!

Ben,

You have to use your expertise in FOIA, and connect with Cleve Jones who started the AIDS quilt and get their attention. Many names of veterans who have suffered and sacrificed themselves as a result of war and a clear fraudlent narrative of VA scheming veterans and their families need to be known.
These Senators and Congressmen in these districts where these events occur need to be put on blast because it is a high stakes disclosure if VA did not notify the local Reps.

Jo3n
Jo3n

I’m amazed that at a VA hospital, there wasn’t someone there that could handle coping with trauma. The email did show more concern for employees than Veterans. THE email was sent at 930a.m., said the incident happened last night. Who investigates suicides on VA property? My prayers go out to the family…

Larry McMullen
Larry McMullen

The Murfeesboro VA in TN had a veteran hang himself last month because he was asked to leave mental health care because he had an argument with a doctor.

james gallegos
james gallegos

Exactly, express yourself and the VA will do what ever they can to stop it, Mainly using the Disruptive Committee to do their DIRTY work. Turning you back on veterans is or should be TREASON and those employees should have charges placed on the for Veterans with disabilities or persons with disabilities.

I have always wondered how many Veterans that took their own lives applied for disability through VBA and were denied, As stated before veterans that are denied in writing, are not eligible for mental health care with out an adjudicated claim from VBA.

I know this to be true because it happened to me, where the VA lied and denied my claim, stating that my Military records were destroyed in the St louis fire in 1973, DAV, VFW unable to do anything. After hiring an attorney and them seeing he was an attorney, Magically they reappeared ! I guess they are like the Phoenix bird and rose out of the ashes ! NA they just lied !

and I suffered for 40 years with PTSD and a TBI !

Ex
Ex

@ Marion VA Medical Center they have had to pay out for over 20 wrongful death cases in marion, illinois. The media did little to cover the stories. Also, a suicide was given little coverage that happen at the medical center. This article makes me sick. Again the true victim is given a lesser value. It is a reminder of the nightmare in operations and failure in the system.
Employee Assistance Program, i heard they want to get their hands on information about your records and use it to retaliate against so called troubled employees. Like the EEO complaint process this gives management the opportunity to say it is just a employee relations problem, not the truth that an employee is reporting abuses by providers and management. This gives management the opportunity to move employees to other areas in the medical center so they can retaliate and again blame an employee in some capacity of being difficult. They twist and control all processes that would give an employee protection for blowing the whistle. EEO, EAP and vaoig among other avenues do not work to stop the abuses because these avenues are about controlling the process not correcting it. Their abuse of authority is beyond belief and when witness firsthand this is when you begin to understand how they are untouchable, because they can and do get away with it. Tragically, this is the truth and it happens throughout the va system.

Sandy Linden
Sandy Linden

I agree it is very sad. I’m sorry to say that after all the years of dealing with the VA for my husbands care, I really can understand what leads them to suicide. I read a article that implies vets and family can have Severe PTSD after trying to work with this system! That’s very wrong.

GH
GH

…and you want to shut down Obamacare; the only other path to healthcare around The VA.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

No Troll, we don’t want VA care or Obama Care we want what Donald Trump is working on. And that is:

“Trump Weighs Letting Veterans Opt Out of V.A. Medical Care”

“WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — President-elect Donald J. Trump is considering a plan to allow military veterans to opt out of medical care at Veterans Affairs hospitals and instead see private doctors of their choosing, a senior transition official told reporters here on Wednesday.”

To Quote President Elect Trump “We’re working on something to make it great for the veterans,” he said, adding: “People are dying. We’re going to fix it properly.”

“http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/politics/trump-weighs-letting-veterans-opt-out-of-va-medical-care.html?_r=0”

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As Obama goes kicking and screaming trying to screw up the county even worse before he leaves. A total moron poking a bear with a stick.

“U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds, official says”

“http://www.toledoblade.com/Nation/2016/12/29/US-senators-Russia-should-be-sanctioned-for-election-hacks.html”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

“Trump considering privatizing parts of Veterans Affairs”, By Daniel Halper, December 29, 2016

“Wednesday’s mention of a “public-private option” suggests major changes may be coming.

Trump held meetings with health execs to discuss “how would you implement a program that could get vets the ability to go to any hospital that they wanted to go to regardless … if you were in the VA or out of the VA, how would you set it up,” the official said.

But, the official warned, it could be complicated.

“So, the idea is to come up with a solution that solves the problem. And it’s not the easiest thing in the world because you’ve got all these little kingdoms out there, which is hard. You know, in the federal government it’s hard to break things up and start over,” said the official.”

“Trump called his appointment of the VA secretary one of his most important appointments and is still interviewing candidates.”

“http://nypost.com/2016/12/29/trump-considering-privatizing-parts-of-veterans-administration/”

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Seymore,
I read about what President Elect Trump wants for the veterans. Great news indeed! I’d much rather use private healthcare.
On that issue. A friend told me about “WELLCARE” today. He said it’s 100% better than VA healthcare! I’m going to check it out later.
______________

Secondly, the Russians were NOT behind the hacking, we all know this. It was an inside job and a few other security agencies! Even ‘Assange’ of Wikileaks confirmed this!
This poser, Obama, is trying to get us into a world war. Then blame everything on the GOP and President Elect Trump! So far, with this crap, and what him and “Kowardly Kerry are doing against Israel, it’s not going to take that much more “prodding”! How much can a bully continue to act stupid, when the victim finally fights back?
At least, that’s what I’m hearing on the “real news”!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

“Donald Trump Considers Moving VA Toward Privatization “, By Ben Kesling, Dec. 28, 2016

“Mr. Trump is considering changing the department to allow some veterans to bypass the VA heath-care system completely and get care exclusively from private-sector hospitals and clinics, the official said. It is an option that could give veterans full choice over their health care, but which many veterans groups argue is the first step toward privatization and one that will reduce the quality of health care over the long term.”

Of course there are those who are fighting against us Veterans having a choice in our health care.

When asked why the VA needs to remain the coordinating hub of care for veterans. VA Secretary Bob McDonald said in an interview on Dec. 13. ““Veterans suffer very specific illnesses and injuries that come from the battlefield and that come from service and they tend to be multiple in nature.” “Veterans want a doctor, or want a provider, who understands these illnesses and these injuries and knows how to deal with them and deals with them every day.”

Also lets not forget to mention those corrupt power and money hungry Dinosaurs VSOs who are also fighting against Veterans having real access to real health care.

“Earlier this month, a group of advocates, including the American Legion, Vietnam Veterans of America and Paralyzed Veterans of America, said at a press conference they would oppose moves to privatize the department.”

“http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-considering-moving-va-toward-privatization-1482974260”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Elf,

My personal opinion is that Obama is trying to crash and burn the country in every way he can. His actions against Russia are because their news agencies published the news from wiki leaks and published real news in stead of just the approved press releases.

Also Obama’s JV team in Syria and Iraq are all folding and running for cover. Peace is breaking out in Syria and that is not part of the Obama plan.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Elf it is like Obama wants to turn the whole US into what his home town now is. Chiraq.

GH
GH

…and you want to shut down Obamacare; the only other path to healthcare around The VA.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

No Troll, we don’t want VA care or Obama Care we want what Donald Trump is working on. And that is:

“Trump Weighs Letting Veterans Opt Out of V.A. Medical Care”

“WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — President-elect Donald J. Trump is considering a plan to allow military veterans to opt out of medical care at Veterans Affairs hospitals and instead see private doctors of their choosing, a senior transition official told reporters here on Wednesday.”

To Quote President Elect Trump “We’re working on something to make it great for the veterans,” he said, adding: “People are dying. We’re going to fix it properly.”

“http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/politics/trump-weighs-letting-veterans-opt-out-of-va-medical-care.html?_r=0”

~~~~~~~~~

As Obama goes kicking and screaming trying to screw up the county even worse before he leaves. A total moron poking a bear with a stick.

“U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds, official says”

“http://www.toledoblade.com/Nation/2016/12/29/US-senators-Russia-should-be-sanctioned-for-election-hacks.html”

J
J

…and you want to shut down Obamacare; the only other path to healthcare around The VA.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

No Troll, we don’t want VA care or Obama Care we want what Donald Trump is working on. And that is:

“Trump Weighs Letting Veterans Opt Out of V.A. Medical Care”

“WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — President-elect Donald J. Trump is considering a plan to allow military veterans to opt out of medical care at Veterans Affairs hospitals and instead see private doctors of their choosing, a senior transition official told reporters here on Wednesday.”

To Quote President Elect Trump “We’re working on something to make it great for the veterans,” he said, adding: “People are dying. We’re going to fix it properly.”

“http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/politics/trump-weighs-letting-veterans-opt-out-of-va-medical-care.html?_r=0”

~~~~~~~~~

As Obama goes kicking and screaming trying to screw up the county even worse before he leaves. A total moron poking a bear with a stick.

“U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds, official says”

“http://www.toledoblade.com/Nation/2016/12/29/US-senators-Russia-should-be-sanctioned-for-election-hacks.html”

Jo3n
Jo3n

Ben, how can a crisis line be more capable of dealing with a crisis than the Veterans Hospital? I’m prone to believe all the Veterans Hospitals were capable and staffed to deal with PTSD, trauma, and other psychological disorders. Especially the larger VA’s.

Dennis
Dennis

If he was flagged by the DBC then police would have prevented him from entering the facility under any circumstances. This is precisely the place that a DBC victim would pick to martyr this cause.

Jo3n
Jo3n

EAP Consultants is everywhere. Every part of government. Fed., State, County, City, major/minor corporations. Make a good FICTIONAL spy thriller. They’re in most Countries. Including AFGE. Like to connect them to our hotel/club in Paris. Does the system count od’s suicides? Most suicides by Veterans didn’t have to happen. Making us wait a lifetime or two, while many of us lose everything we ever had, I guess suicide just ain’t that hard. Or maybe just seems that way. God Bless the Veteran…

Bill
Bill

I totally agree with you.

Maybe the va employees eho are tramatized should receive mental health care from the gradutes of ali babba university that veterans are FORCED to use, I bet they will learn to suck it up and keep thier mouth shut or to join the list of 20 sucicides a day.

Rest in peace brother, thank you for your service

James M. Hanrahan
James M. Hanrahan

LET ME TELL YOU ALL THE ONLY ONES WHO DEAL WITH PTSD IS THE VET NOT A DOC IN THE VA HAS WAR EXP. AND THE WILL TO DEAL WITH THIS. I FIND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DO ARE OTHER VETS WHO HAVE THIS TYPE OF TRAUMA FROM THE WAR THEY FIGHT WHERE THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF WHO IS THE ONE THEY ARE TO FIGHT. THE ONES WHO HAVE TO KILL BABIES AND MOM WHO ONE MIN. COULD BE FRIENDS ARE TURNED INTO BOMBS BY THOSE WHO WE ARE TRYING TO FIGHT BUT LOOK LIKE THE ONES WE ARE TRYING TO HELP. YES THEY LEARNED FROM THE PAST BUT WE NO JUST KILL OURSELF WHEN WE FEEL THE PAST COMING OVER US FOR KILLING THE FRIEND AND HAVING NO ANSWERS WHY!!!!!!! I TOOK MY FATHER TO HIS FIRST WAR MOVIE AFTER HIS RETIREMENT IT WAS MEL G. MOVIE ABOUT THE OFFICER WHO REALY DID SAY ” I WILL BE THE FIRST ON AND THE LAST OFF THE FEILD OF BATTLE SO HELP ME GOD !!!” MY DAD KNEW HIM AND SERVED WITH HIM IN NAM BUT IT LEFT MY DAD AFTER HE GOT OUT I THINK IN 83 HE WAS SMGM IN ARMY WITH OVER 30 YEARS AND IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN NEVER GOT OUT. HE WAS SO CALLED RET. FOR SOME TIME WHEN 9/11 HIT BUT THE PRES. COULDN’T GET INTO THE PENN. AT ALL BUT MY DAD CALL HIS GROUP WITH ONE CALL GOT TO HIS PEOPLE AND FOUND OUT THE PLANE HIT THEIR OFFICE DEAD CENTER BUT THEY MOVED A WEEK EARLIER AND ALL WAS SAFE. YES MY DAD HAD THE FIGHT OF HIS LIFE WITH PTSD ONE DAY HE WOKE UP TO FIND HIS WIFE HUDDLE IN A CONNER OF THE BEDROOM ASKING HIM NO TO HIT HER ANYMORE AND HE NEVER HIT HER OR ANY WOMEN IN HIS LIFE BUT HE DID REMERBER WHAT HAPPEN IN THE DREAM HE WAS HAVING IT WAS ONE OF HIS LIFE OR DEATH HAPPENING IN NAM AND FOUND HER THERE. I WAS THE ONE WHO GAVE HIM LIFE AND THE VA TOOK IT FOR LACK OF CARING FOR HIM OR MANY OTHER LIKE HIM WHO LIVED WITH THE TRAUMA OF A WAR WHO YOUR FRIEND COULD KILL YOU OR YOUR BUDDY BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO LIVE A LITTLE LONGER BUT THEY DIED TOO BECAUSE OF LIES AND FEELING OF NOW DEATH IF THEY DIDN’T WALK TO THEIR FRIENDS THE GI’S. WELL NOW VETS MAKE IT HOME ONLY TO FIND NOTHING, PAIN AND WAR MAKE A MAN VERY MAD WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WHO HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN ALL WAS NEVER THERE FOR HIM WHEN THEY NEEDED IT AND WHY MONEY ONLY MONEY!!!! WE WHO ARE VETS KNOW THE LIES, RUN A ROUND AND LACK OF CARING THOSE IN THE VA WHO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN THOSE WHO THEY HAVE A JOB TO HELP AND THEY MAKE US FEEL LIKE WE ARE A PEICE OF TRASH AND HOW DO WE EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE IN THEIR OFFICE TAKING THEIR TIME AWAY FROM THEIR IPHONE, OR FAMILY MEMBER OR OFF CITE PAT. PLEASE FOREGIVE I NEVER LIKE SPELLING AND STILL DON’T. BYE FOR NOW 100% DAV I DON’T MEAN THE VA DAV BUT THAT IS A STORY FOR LATER JAMES M HANRAHAN

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

What I would want to say about VA employees right now—– I won’t!
Ben’s blog today is a prime example of why VHA’s nationwide should be SHUT DOWN!
Any “Trolls” coming on today, as David “Little” Cox, (AFGE President), would say, needs their “…ass whooped…” for being uncompromising in how VHA’s treat veterans in the worst way!

MC03
MC03

Docs at VA are very good and most care providers tend to be spot on. The issues inevitably come from the barriers to care created and perpetuated by the VA Administrators and bureaucrats. The director of the Providence RI VA is among the worst ever.

Bill
Bill

I disagree with you spot on!

Dennis
Dennis

The doctors I have met,
i have researched online. My shrink (former) at VA had just gotten off a long suspension for chronic alcohol abuse so got her license back. VA hired her. My PCP was fired from his last civilian job at a clinic for chronically preaching his faith in Jesus during exams. VA hired him. In my first visit he gave me the ordering info to buy a book “May God Bless You” from Amazon. The author name is Joel Jiminez.

I researched my PCPs facebook page upon which he posts profusely and discovered that “Joel Jiminez” is his pen name! My doc is hustling Amazon sales under an assumed name for a Christian book during PCP visits currently at VA! The VAs own Chaplain wrote me an unsolicited response to my informing him about this activty and said it was categorically a wrong act!

So the alcoholic and the flim flam man are honestly both pretty nice people. One has had a lifetime of her nose in he bottle and the other is honoring capitalism via Amazon while at the same time drawing a VA wage.

I figure that out of all the docs at VA Roseburg that I got the best two, but I would hardly call them a spot on crew.

Dennis
Dennis

Concerning doctors at VA, let me ask you something? If the idea of the government providing a service that involves life and death is such a grand idea, then why doesn’t the FAA provide all the pilots, all the training, and set all the schedules? As a younger man I held a commercial/flight instructor license. I did have demonstrate a very high degree of profficiency to the FAA in a multitude of written and practical tests, but that is the ONLY case when the FAA provided a government pilot – the examiner.

Believe me when I tell you that in my day at least the FAA was something a pro pilot feared, because the very slightest personal affront to an examiner could set back a career permanently on a busted check ride – and brothers this stuff does happen. The casualty is a career, not a life.

If VA is a good idea for a provider of healthcare, then why doesn’t FAA offer passengers a “Choice” program too? You can choose to fly with a pilot from FAA that is immune from federal prosecution, state law, and license revocation, or you can choose to fly with a pilot that is held accountable in all respects.

Which one would you fly with? More to the point, what type of pilot would the FAA attract who sought such immunities from the law?

Now ask yourself, how many suicides in the general population are carried out in front of ER doors, burning to,death in front of clinics, and done right in front of the hospital they went to? How many of those got covered up? Answer these honestly and then answer if you think VA can EVER provide what the private already does?

Ex va
Ex va

@ Dennis a good point.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

MC03,
I disagree with your statement. I would say, only a few Physicians and other healthcare providers are “spot on” as you say.
Most of them only care about how little they can do for their patients. This way, they can say their doing the best they can. That way they won’t upset their $$$$ “apple cart bonuses!”
The mental health professionals I’ve met, over almost 45+ years, don’t give a rats ass on how they treat veterans.
As a matter of fact, here in Florida, there are numerous outside mental health facilities, for veterans PTSD issues, very well equipped to deal with this issue.
This Ms Brown needs to take heed on catering to the employees vs veterans on this matter. If the employees are more important, in her opinion, then, in my opinion, she needs to find another profession – say “Garbage Disposal Collection”!!!!!!!

Michael
Michael

Good health care? Really? How about a VA Doctor that prescribes medicine you have an allergy to. An allergy documented in your VA records? Then has the nerve to put in your records that he sought the patient has an allergy to the medication? Yes, it happened to me. I now get to see a doctor outside the VA, and the VA gets to pay for it.

Michael
Michael

Sought should be doubts… damn autocorrect.

Dennis
Dennis

There is no,man that would stand in such a precise location to end his life that does not have a damn good story to listen to. With luck his family can spill the beans about what VA did to him personally. It smells like another DBC victim to me.

They called in outside counsellors because they needed competent professionals. VA are considered human subjects so they get a better deal on these things.

namnibor
namnibor

Just like a year ago when down at a Louisiana VAMC a medical assistant that killed a 73 year old veteran by blunt force trauma was given “time off to recover”, then returned right back to work and more than likely is still there mistreating and abusing Veterans. The VA is more concerned about their traumatized employees while not giving a rats ass about just why that Veteran went to such drastic measures. Yes, that Veteran was *more likely than not* sending a clear message with his death…but the VA rather cover that up and worry about their cuddly-wuddly dick employees!!!
The VA bringing outside Psych’s to counsel is just the cherry on top of the pile of VA Poo.
This crap must cease, and now.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Dennis,

The media blackout is likely so that the VA can corral the family in a non disclosure agreement on a fast settlement in this case. They don’t want the family speaking out about why this Veteran committed suicide.

maryw
maryw

I specifically requested to talk w/my senators here in Wisconsin,,Tammy Baldwin,,,in regards to putting on ALL death certificates a box for coroners,,,”Death due to untreated physical pain from a medical condition,”..I was told by her ,”aid,” to ,,”prove it,” unquote…Never was allowed to talk to my senatore despite repeated request…Her aid called me back,,,not her,,,See they truly want no record of the willfull torture and death they have caused,,seriously For if they recorded this death on a actual death certificate as death due to the V.A.’s
neglect or,,death due to a untreated medical condition,”..that death certificate is a LEGAL RECORD….
Finally after the Tomah V.A.,,a man named ,”Dick Trickle,” and a veteren in Wisconsin Rapids taking a shot gun to stop his physical pain from war injuries sustained during the Vietnam war,,,whilst his nurse was trying to talk him out of it on the phone,,and i was calling the suicide prevention hotline,,got put on hold,,btw….I wrote a formal complaint to the U.N.O.H.R.C.,,,THEY DID RESPOND,,with a formal respond stating that denial of care or denial of access to effective medicines to lessen physical pain from any medical condition is defined as torture,,,Furthermore,,death forced upon a group of people by any government is genocide..I sent their reply to my Senatores…Soo this government is fully aware,,of the torture and genocide they have committed to our veterens and tooo alll whom our physical ill w/a painful medical condition,,thus,,,they want no legal record of the deaths they have willfully caused,,maryw

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Seymore,
Let’s hope VA officials don’t find ALL of his relatives. That way the “story” CAN get out!

james gallegos
james gallegos

Mentioning VA settlements, I just watched Jeff Miller and the committee, discuss with VA, VA Misuse of Employee settlement Agreements for whistle blowing. Since 20014 their were over 300 whistle blowing cases and the committee was given a little over 200 cases and of those 200 and some 72% were settled by payouts to Whistle blowers.

The offender of retaliation 0 were disciplined and the offenders records showed a clean, record where the offender got away clean. No Action against them. One case pointed out where two 2 reports called for the termination, yet the VA paid the offending Employees Attorney fees and whipped that employees record clean.

since 2014 5 million has been paid out to whistle blowers and 0 employees fired for the retaliation. So anyone that doubts veterans on this site about wrongdoings by VA employees, explain that. Hundreds of veterans and at least 300 VA employees have had the VA attack them as a retaliatory motive.

Now Employees have x amount of ways to fight back, Veterans have 0 when a VA employee retaliates.

When Bob McDonald stated the New VA is going to be called my VA and he meant it latterly and too many VA Employees took it Latterly and they have lashed out against employees and the Veterans.

Being a veteran can be dangerous to our health, The writing on the wall is there, but it seems everyone is looking at the floor and not reading the wall.

Again more skirting around the questions sighting privacy concerns : Yes the wrongdoers privacy. They did mention that they are taking action against 4 employee at the Grand Junction VA for termination. That will be a cold day in Hell, someone will do the wrong thing and cleanse those employees and the employees will have hell to pay, for daring to get them fired.

I pay that Jeff Miller will run the VA, he’s seen enough of the run a round to last two life times. I believe he will be the one to see through the lies and will hold the liar accountable. The VA is still doing the shuffle with management.

5 million dollars and what does the VA get, they get to keep those bad employees to carry on with the dirty deeds of trying to shut up Whistle blowers. What a waste of money at least we know that over 300 employees care enough to be put in the spot to bring wrongdoing to the fore front.

Now if we can get someone to blow the whistle on employees that falsely accuse Veterans of Disruptive Behavior and consider them as whistle blowers, so they too can find an avenue to defend themselves against Disgruntled employees.

VA employees, VA employees, how about the Veterans do we not matter. The VA requested 1.2 billion dollars, 420 million for research. If the VA has to pay 5 million since 2014, they are really going to need that money to recoup their losses.

As said on the movie independence day, where the president was surprised after seeing the government facility and asked where did all the money come from and he was told do you really think a Hammer or toilet cost $100 thousands dollars.

Nope they got the money the same way Lye to our elected officials and the public, how else can they afford to pay whistle blowers and get their yearly bonus.

I never hear about Veterans issues it seems to always be about the VA staff and the bang up job their doing.

Where is the Veterans protection, oh yea were our the collateral damage of doing business within the VA, employees mean more than veterans do or things would have changed.

Bill
Bill

I just read this on Yahoo news

“https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-transition-team-says-hes-considering-a-dramatic-overhaul-of-the-va-002137688.html”

Is this the 1st step?

Dan F
Dan F

Thanks for the link. That is exactly what is needed, real choice. Veterans should have a choice to stay with the VA, go to a private doctor or be able to have a combination. At almost 70 years of age, I am finding the 3 hours of traveling 140 miles round trip to be really fatiguing. There is no public transportation and most of the medical issues I face could be treated, literally, four minutes from my house.

One of the VA’s reasons they don’t like private care is they supposedly don’t know the medical care being provided by private providers. However, even that is coming to an end as there is now the ability to electronically share information. Besides, doctors have been treating people for years without knowing 100% of a patient’s medical history.

Added benefits would be competition in the market place, lower travel pay costs and a smaller burecracy.

Robert
Robert

One problem with some service connected vets with major needs, is the the free VA medication is not offered from outside doctor prescriptions.

james gallegos
james gallegos

On the medication given by choice doctors per VA in pueblo co, the doctor needs to fax that medication request to a VA pharmacy in order to get it filled. If you need medication right away the VA states you may fill and pay for the medication and send in the receipt to get reimbursed.

Now the VA said that veterans that use choice, will not loose any benefits. Guess my VA see’s it different. If you use choice, you can not get your medication from our pharmacy (CBOC), nor will we rewrite the request and we may require you to bring in the doctors progress not and then we may not still not fill it.

You can request an appointment and we still may not fill it. I had a very bad lung infection and needed the medication right away, the CBOC in pueblo co handed me a paper stating all of this. I told them that I had no money to buy the medication and was told to call the Denver VAMC and speak with pharmacy.

I told the pharmacy the same thing and I was told well if you cant afford it you will have to drive the 200 miles one way to pick them up. If I did not have the money for the medication, how can I afford to get Gas to make a 4 hour trip back and forth and sick as hell.

No the VA despises veterans that use choice and this is just a measure they will stoop too to get back at the veterans using choice. They only thing they know how to do is , Retaliation !

They will teach us to use choice.

Dan F
Dan F

That would be remedied by the same law which would allow vets to go to private physicians. The government would pay for those medications too.

Lem
Lem

The VA doesn’t want to give us up because many of us are in research projects without our knowing. Sometimes some VA physicians are not aware of the research project and because the vet is too often unaware he may opt for private care if he has the means and it takes the subject out of the project. Example; I was told that I should have a colonoscopy every 2 years and had no trouble getting it done until I had a couple of them done in Japan. After that my two year schedule was changed by a physician who either didn’t want to do it or didn’t know about the research because my medical records hadn’t caught up with me. And now that they have caught up I’m on a 1 year schedule? Yet I’m not given any particular reason. It is being done at the VA in Cheyenne although I’m on Choice because of mileage and my primary care is only 2 minutes up the street. There is a facility across the street that does colonoscopies but mine is scheduled in Cheyenne.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

The more that the VA uses outside 3rd party medical and psychological providers, the services at the VA will become worse. Expect the wait times, outside of regular office visits, for a Veteran to get help to be extended even more. The problem is not due to a lack of funds. It is due to a lack of competency, integrity, and holding the lives of Veterans to the utmost of importance. This is a frigging no brainer.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

1. I am saddened by the loss of another Brother-In-Arms who ended their life prematurely. My condolences to the family.

2. With this incident happening on the 22nd, and it now being the 29th – – – it seems to me that even the most inept detective work SHOULD have been able to notify a family member within 48 hours of this tragic incident. There is ZERO EXCUSE for the Albuquerque VA Center’s Administrator and Staff to do so. I say again ZERO EXCUSE. Certainly, there cannot be any justifiable reason whatsoever. NONE.

3. It is absolutely clear from the wording of the e-mail sent by Sonja Brown that she is not truly concerned with veteran’s in the slightest. She will gladly “go along to get along” and sing the merry VA tune. The concern she espouses via e-mail just oozes insincerity.

4. Incidents such as THIS not being reported by the so-called “Mainstream Media”because the VA is stonewalling them are precisely the reason that so many veterans seek alternative news sources. If nothing else, the local reporters on-scene should be reporting what they know (sparse as it may be) and then be reporting that the VA is doing everything it possibly can to prevent them from getting any factual and truthful information. Whatever happened to the days when reporters displayed some grit?

Thanks for reporting this, Ben. Such a tragedy . . .

91Veteran
91Veteran

You are correct. 8 days later, the VA excuse that they can’t report anything because they have not contacted the family is either a pathetic excuse covering a lie or it shows shocking incompetence.

Family of a veteran KIA on the other side of the friggin planet can be notified, certainly within 48 hours, and the VA has nothing after 8 days.

If you search on Albequerque veteran suicide, the only current link on this is from this post. Everything else is old news, much with VA talking points about how good they are doing.

james
james

I believe you to be correct on both of your assessment’s !

maryw
maryw

Ok,,,living in wisco,,and hearing on t.v.. Tomah va this ,,or that,,,Having 3 brothers who served,,and VERY GOOD FRIEND,,NOW 96,,WHO,, fought the Japanese,,,,ptsd is aweful,,,After 96 years,,my friend finally open up about his time serving ww2,,,,and what he still saids about the Japanese,,ie,,I quote,,,,”when u see your best friend rite next to u,,and 1/2 his face is gone and there is NOTHING u can do to hep him,,it stays w/u for life,””and a few other thing to this day he said about the cruelity of thee Japanese torture,inhumanity etc,,,it still w/him after 70 years,,,
Like I said earlier,,being rite next to Toma V.A..I witness thee worse propaganda campaign ever placed upon the medicine and the doctor who tried to help our veterans..The doctor was slandered in the press BEFORE trail,,thus contaminating any jury,,but the big consequence of all this propaganda were our vets,,,who had their MEDICINES,,either abrutely stopped or lessened to ineffective dosages w/this opiatephobia crap.,,jmo.It all started w/ a man who o.d.,,who was a veteran,,but instead of his parents recgonizing he was a adult,responsible for his own decision,,they sought revenge for the death of their son,,,The reality however,,was Tomah va,,preformed no cpr to try a revive this man,,,nothing,,,cause he was in a psych ward when he o.d.,,,The hospital did NOTHING to try and save this man,,,that was the truth,,but immediately opiate MEDICINE was demonized,slandered and used as a propaganda tool to take them away from EVERYONE,,,If people simple recognized truth,,that no-one,,no NORMAL humanbeing will want to live the rest of their life in forced endurement of physical pain from any injury or war injuries,,no-one wants to live their life in constant pain,,,,yet because of this opiate phobia,propaganda,,,10000 of vets have been FORCED off their medicines,,that were working just fine,,The governemt,dea finally admitted that opiates never played a role most od’s in the country,,,but their propaganda tool was to lump heroin in w/so-called opiate death,,,because they came from the same plant,,,,THAT HOW CORRUPT ,,’our” government is..My hubby’s father worked for the cia,,and dod for 30 years,,,he never talked about work,,but would only tell us,,,the government lies to the public everyday,every hour,,they NEVER tell the public the truth..See,,jmo,,they want no record of these veterans deaths,,,,for it would give the public proof of the torture and genocide they have created by playing Dr.Government and taking away needed MEDICINE from these veterans..Medicines that were working just fine,,,until,,,this false,media spread propaganda of this false opiate epedimic..Now these vets are forced to endure their physical pain from war injuries w/NOTHING,,or noneffective dosages to help lessen their physical pain,,,Again,,no normal humabeing wants to live in physical pain for the rest of their life,,,thus they choose death stop stop their physical pain,,,They don’t want to end their life,,,they just want their physical pain stopped,,and since Dr.Government has taken away their medicines to lessen that physical pain,,their forced to use death to stop their physical pain,.The government wants no record of the torture and genocide they have created,,,maryw

Dennis
Dennis

@maryw

Please take the time to copy the words you wrote and send them by first class mail to your Congressman. Their addresses are easy to find online by Googling “who is my congressman”.

Send it just like you posted it.

mary
mary

Do it every day Sir,,,there is a site called ,

pharmacist Steve,,,who unlike soo many others,,,actual puts truthful stats and data,,, out here,,,I send at least 2-5 document a day,,to Tammy Baldwin,,Ron Kind,Cdc,Doj,,,,I am sure there watchen me,,but u know what,,I DON’T CARE,,,, for,,,,,”When ever any form of Government evinces by design,to reduce it citizens to absolute DESPOTISM,, it is our duty,our rite,to alter or abolish it..”’To find new guards for a safety and wellbeing”from thee corrupted use of thee ,”just power,” derived from the governed…….People who commit suicide want to die,,,people who have chosen death to stop their physical pain do not to die,they just want their physical pain stop..and because of opiatephobs,,death is thee only way to stop their physical pain now a days,,,ie higher rate of death[their suicide] by veterans now more then ever,,maryw

mary
mary

If u know how to copy and paste have at it..I only know how to forward,downlaod thee entire article and send as a attachment..Plus w/this new computer as of 1 day ago,and windows 10,,which i hate,,it does not give me thee option to ,”share” this site??maryrw

R. Michael/aka Old Hippy/ SEABEE CAN DO !!
R. Michael/aka Old Hippy/ SEABEE CAN DO !!

They used the Opioid fantasy as slight of hand to get the public notice off the wait time issue. And it worked. I live is excruciating, pain every minute of every day. Severe degeneration of my spine. I do have a doc at VA that has worked with me for years to keep my pain in check, as much as they will allow him. He faught like hell to get me to Non VA Neurosurgeon a couple months ago. Had a 8 in. Titanium plate put in my neck. Spine was so bad my head was about to fall off. No BULL. The VA has a protocol for pain medications. But it is the pharmacists that are putting the BLOCK on the docs. My doc at Dublin, Ga. VA is Dr. Moti. He Cares. It took me 10 years of BS docs and raising hell to get moved over to him. Of all the docs I have seen at VA he is the BEST. His first concern is his patients. There are a FEW of them in this system. I just have to fight with the pharm. every month when he puts rdefills in they want to add days to keep me from getting them when due. They lie right to your face. Tell you they are in the mail.Then after 12 days they walk right back in pharm and pick them from a bin and give them to you like nothings wrong. I raised hell a couple years ago with the head of pharm. about it. Two months later I get a letter from Chief Of Staff that I have been put on THE LIST. I am supposed to report to VA Cops whenever I come up there. Bull Shit. I go where I want. But a buddy of mine that works there says that when they open my file the first thing seen is THE FLAG. I’m a bad boy. Ha Haa. But you are sooooo right on the issue of how can you expect someone to live in this pain 24/7/365. Most turn to self medication. And pain will definitely make a person give up and make the final statement. Tell your elected officials your story too. Well Put.

james gallegos
james gallegos

Thanks for your post, the VA does not care what our problems are, seems our problems are not their problems. That what I mean VA employees do report veterans when we speak out about our treatment.

Veterans are punished at will and I will never try to stop this ILLEGAL committee from punishing veterans for anything ! Did they not tell you in a letter that you were being reported, if so did they give you anyway to defend yourself ?

Please write Donald Trump and let him know about how you were treated when you told them your concerns. This is why I believe that many veterans take their own lives because of being reported and harassed.

Please don’t let them get away with this, by telling your congressman, and the VA committee in Washington !

If enough of us tell our stories on how the VA is using this committee to punish veterans. It is a dirty shame that the VA can not fire employees that retaliate against Employee whistle blowers. One thing the employees do have and that’s the Union, MSPB, Ect. and as stated before the VA paid out 5 million to employees who were retaliated against.

Where can a Veteran go, nowhere. Yes they have a patient rep and those rep’s are VA employees and they will do the same thing to a veterans that goes to them to express their concerns. Veterans should have the same rights as the employees when it comes to this, we should be able to take the employee and the committee to an agency to give us the right to file against them and if found the employee reported just because they can, the veteran is to get part of the 1.2 billion the va asked for.

Not one employee fired after costing the VA 5 million dollars. The VA could care less how much money they have to pay out, its not their money, its the veterans money and the tax payer.

Everyone please write to Trump, your congressman and anyone else you can think of and lets put a stop to this injustice of veterans being reported for anything period. Demand it.

Lem
Lem

First class mail takes weeks to get through “Anthrax screening”, Dennis. Shortest contact is by telephone and email. Call the office and get the answering person’s email address. Then send by email and ask for a reply. Even so the chances of a Congressman ever seeing a constituents words whether by snail mail or email is more than 100 to 1.

How many of all of the emails in your in box and junk mail can you thoroughly read given the time you have to read them. What probably happens is a briefing by the chief of staff who was briefed by staff at the various offices of the Congressman or Senator. Chances of your correspondence being the particular example given to the Congressman or Senator are slim. But if enough send similar or the same words to the same Congressman or Senator they might get the word but then will be more likely to ignore it in favor of pressing communications from large campaign contributors. So if you have $100,000 to send along with it don’t expect to have any affect.

Now writing an open letter to the editor of the primary Newspaper or News program will likely get more results because it will put the member of Congress on notice from the voters.

Just saying.

Dennis
Dennis

I have indeed been featured in the press over this. I understand how to get noticed and I notice things that get results. Even if substantiated, your claim that a letter to your congressman by first class mail takes weeks means that it is in the hands of our government (not a computer). Actual human hands have to handle it, sort it, inspect it, route it, carry it, and open it. This fact alone gives it far more meaning to a congressman than dots on a screen that form words. It also leaves a trail, like a snail. First Class postage is the investment of the individual for this treatment. An email can be sent naked while sipping coffee. A letter has to be carried.

How many emails did you send for Xmas? How many cards? How many actual letters did you send in your own pen to say how much you cared for somebody you love?

Of those three, which one would you youself give the most meaning to?

Plus with an email you just tap delete. Wih a letter you have to crumple and throw it away yourself. Which one is easier for you to do?

Dennis
Dennis

Final thought, as a congressman it is far more dramatic to hold high in his hand a letter from one of his peeps and quoting from it in outrage to sway his peers. Just try that with an iPad….Siri would probably interupt.

namnibor
namnibor

Even better, send correspondence, all correspondence to the VA via Registered/Certified USPS Mail. This means there’s an actual printed paper trail and time-stamp that cannot be ignored and you have proof of the VA’s receipt of same. This was a basic staple instruction I held to when filing my own VA Claim years ago and was ultimately awarded 100%. I also at the exact same time was filing my SSDI Claim and applied that method to SSA as well.
Since the VA has absolutely no accountability, it takes an outside entity such as the USPS to ensure your sent correspondence does not end-up just shelved without receipt. It’s somewhat like having an analog tracking device on your sent mail.
This also holds true when sending a physical letter (not email) to any Congressman/woman. If you are relying only on an email trail you best start the practice of “Blind Carbon Copy” (BCC) to yourself, as to have a handy file of all sent correspondence, and with that BCC you can also send whatever you are sending to another recipient and via the inherent “Blind” part, the original recipient will not even know you have sent this to other parties, unless you use regular “Carbon Copy” (CC), in that case, anyone on the CC list can see whom also was sent your correspondence.
Personally, I used both email and Registered/Certified USPS means and I ate an awful lot of ramen noodles and canned surplus food pantry food during that time in order to afford these correspondences because my LIFE depended upon it.
Hope this helps but one Veteran. All of this can be acquired knowledge over at the great website HADIT dot com.

Dan F
Dan F

This suicide both saddening and enraging. Many of the posts very succinctly echo my feelings.

Several thoughts came to mind as I read through the article and posts. The first was, what is being done for the veterans who must have witnessed the suicide? Has anyone done anything to try to identify who were there and were they offered VA care?

Secondly, VA employees don’t have VA care, so I understand why outside counselors would be employed.

The last thing which occurred to me is how many of these employees will now claim PTSD and be medically retired from Government service? I would sure like to know that statistic over the coming years and compare their experience at a claim with ours.

Dennis
Dennis

Nearly all of the VA nurses claim unemployability based on PTSD after their service and get handsomely rewarded. They do it by being a vet first, becoming a VA nurse after, then claiming unemployability from PTSD incurred or agravated on the job at VA after several years.

The savvy ones volunteer for the gruesome work because witnessing death is used as a contributing factor to PTSD and is nearly a presumptive case for a VBA decision at that point. I personally know one who did exactly what I am describing, she followed a plan, and that and retired at full VBA style comp from PTSD, and also SSDI same reason this way. The path via VBA is through the “unemployability” clause in VBA that allows a small claim to get 100% VBA and of course full SSDI on top makes retiring at 50 simple if the nurse has this in mind.

My facts are straight. VA nurses get their “second retirement” as they call it through this method and it is well known inside VA. The ones who know the system best and have friendly doctors who nearly let the nurses enter the info into their own records themselves, have a quick path case through VBA.

Dennis
Dennis

There is simply no stone that can be overturned at VA without finding opportunistic behavior that costs far, far, far more dollars to the taxpayer than the simple budget numbers suggest.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Earlier today, “Bill” posted a comment concerning how President Elect Trump is “…considering a dramatic overhaul of the VA”…!
I then decided to explore that site and found the article. There were many articles concerning this issue.
The few I read, and watched videos on, were very informative. The one which caught my eye was the one from “YAHOO FINANCE”!
This one had President Elect Trump meeting, yesterday in Florida, with a number of professional medical and business associates.
My opinion is that President Elect Trump WILL keep his word on transforming VA’s lack of professionalism, accountability, waste fraud and abuse in the medical AND business fields across the VA’s dismal expenditures and healthcare!
Mr. Trump has said, “Some veterans love VA!” To that I say, “fine!” Continue using the VHA. To others, who’ve not been so lucky with proper healthcare, let us use “healthcare in the private sector!”
Mr. Trump or his ‘Team’, in my opinion, will start to unravel the corrosive culture of VA in short order after 21 January 2017. I also believe he will find lots of fraud, with taxpayers monies, going on! We know, because of sites like Ben’s, there’s much waste and abuse. But the “fraud” of ‘Where is all those BILLIONS of dollars going?’ is paramount to getting to the bottom of barrel!

namnibor
namnibor

AUDIT. One comprehensive AUDIT of VHA. Follow the trail of $$$$..$$$…$$…$…to the $wamp Heap.

james gallegos
james gallegos

Dennis and many others have had to deal with the VA Disruptive Committee, As I stated before the VA employees are reporting Veterans at will to claim them as being disruptive and the Disruptive Committee will PUNISH them !
This veteran is nothing to the VA, After all, VA claims all veterans are considered a threat to VA employees, have training on how to take down a veteran. They say Disruptive Behavior committee is there to punish Veterans, Visitors, employees, anyone who (MAYBE) a threat or (COULD BE A THREAT) !

So, you don’t have to do anything at all, An employee can report you as a possible threat and boom, that veteran will be punished and the Disruptive Committee does not care if they have no evidence and will punish you and are not required to give that veteran an outlet to fight back.

As stated before when I requested all the proof they used to punish me, The VA stated well we have (NO) proof, but those were the facts at the time. (REALLY) I don’t think so our Judicial system for a reason have determined that (HEARSAY) is not evidence, Yet the VA only needs Hearsay and that’s good enough.

This may have happened to this veteran and felt abandoned and the VA made him feel worthless. Maybe he was a veteran that tried to obtain treatment and the VA told him, Do you have an adjudicated claim through regional office ? You must have a disability granted by VBA !

Even if he told them he had a claim in or he had received a denial letter and that would exempt him from getting the needed care and if he got upset, Knowing what he has been through and the VA telling him, well those are the facts ! Come back after you get your claim adjudicated.

With out treatment, the end result is what he did ! We veterans whom have had trauma while in the service and the VBA deny our claims, for what ever reason. Their inactions leave the veterans out in the cold and I know first hand how the VA will lie about a veterans Military records being destroyed and that not be true !

This my fellow veterans, had caused me to go without treatment for 40 years and anyone who has PTSD, Knows what I mean and then to find out I had been living with a TBI for those 40 years, All because some employee was told to hide my records or did it on their own, No matter, with out the needed care I have been to Hell and back.

After Becoming Disabled at 100%, the VA let a Disgruntled employee to falsely accuse me and they did punish me and have threatened me Federal Charges, Arrest and Banishment from all VA care, IF they (EVER) hear that I again become disruptive. So (FOR EVER) is a long time !

So the VA at anytime can accuse me again and do not require any proof, they can have me arrested ( that means I would be behind Bars, with Federal Charges and I will have to hire an attorney and face a Judge. If this should ever happen I know the VA, will let it all happen and when its time for court, they drop the charges or not show up. Point Made !

So its horrible that the VA, has sunken so low that Employees come before Veterans and Veterans are all looked at as possible threats to VA staff. As stated before, they can use your remarks on this site as grounds for you to be reported to the Disruptive committee and God help you, Because you will be on your own. You are guilty, not innocent until proven guilty.

If someone would request a ROI to find out how many Veterans have been reported and how many Visitors or employees being reported I believe they could not tell you how many Veterans were reported and I bet it would be 0 for visitors or Employees.

They are causing suicides ! Stop this insanity and treat these veterans with or with out a adjudicated claim. Any Veteran who has been told that their Military records were destroyed in the Saint Louis Fire in May, 1973, who applied for care and denied and later proves that they had the records all along should be given their disability and ALL the back pay, from when they first applied.

Veterans I’m told have one shot at a clear and unmistakable error on their claim ! Problem is finding a lawyer who is willing to help, Veterans such as my self would never have a chance against the VA, believe it or not a Traumatic Brain Injury and PTSD takes a lot of a person.

The news makes Movie stars deaths, more important than Veterans that take their own lives, because of VA failure to Assist ! God Bless and I hope God forgives them for any actions they may have done, Just because the VA wanted to save buck, for their Yearly Bonus.

Bill
Bill

Wonder why Loma Linda VA Hospital had a veteran suicide on the VA property that also went unreported? The VA downplayed the incident & it never made the news. It was September 5th 2014. I reported it to the congressman’s office that was “unaware” of the incident. Veteran shot himself in front of entry & VA claimed “camera was not working”. It was during suicide awareness month.

Jo3n
Jo3n

James G., you are right. Without a long story, The VA I was going to, simply refused to send two medications I take. Every month when they didn’t show, I would call. The same group of cronies would give me the same lying excuses. This went on for over a year. So, I learned there was a new clinic closer than the 80 miles I was traveling. It took 5-6 weeks to get an appointment. There, the new VA Dr. decided since I hadn’t had my meds in nearly 3weeks, I didn’t need them. She decided we would start all over. Made me appointments to go back to same VA and get ???? I do hope Trump does get a good picture of how dangerous the VA is to the Veterans health.

james gallegos
james gallegos

I’m sorry about what is happening to you, I think millions of veterans hopes Mr. Trump will instruct his new Secretary to use his famous words ! Your fired, Go right to the offenders office with the VA police your to remove yourself as I’m am releasing you of your duties.

You will be advised not to be in contact with the employee or veteran whom you retaliated against. In other words take no prisoners and they get no paid lawyer, by the VA. I think if our elected officials really wanted to they could file charges of crimes against humanity.

please write down everything told to you and who is involved, they may not need evidence to punish us. But if we have evidence and a new no nonsense person in charge, we you will have the needed proof needed to prove your case.

That goes for every veteran and active duty, take nothing for granted or thinking someone else will do it.

its up to all of us to make them accountable, more proof the better. Good luck

Lem
Lem

There are cheap body cams on Amazon. You can clip them to a pocket and turn them on at will. If you happen to be a black man it is a good idea to wear one constantly.

Don
Don

I am curious if the VA employees being “Traumatized” is related to the possibility the investigation will delay or otherwise influence their anticipated bonuses???

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

No doubt they will be doubled for their silence.

Dennis
Dennis

The news media realizes the VA causes veterans to commit suicide and by being silent about veterans suicides it appears they’re trying to soften the cushion for Trump when he takes office. I didn’t believe him when Trump said he’s going to change the VA , drain the swamp, so to speak. I didn’t believe that a year ago and I don’t believe him now. The public doesn’t give a crap about veterans committing suicide anyway. They never have. I still feel the hate I got 47 years ago. 15 years ago on 9/11/2001, when I stood in front of that TV screen and watched those twin towers tumble down, that announcer came on and stated, “Ladies and gentlemen, America is at war!” My immediate thought was, I’ll never go do it again!

JOHN COKOS
JOHN COKOS

Trump will never let you down. He is pathological and will not do anything for you or me that will be a positive benefit. Only those assets connected to the Koch Bros will reap any benefit.