Fed Takes Anti-Press, Anti-Public Scrutiny Stance On Key Staff Selection

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Anti-Press

One federal agency has refused to provide names of candidates up for consideration to the press for public scrutiny despite continued record of failure at the agency.

The selection of the Department of Veterans Affairs under secretary for benefits is well underway but the agency asserts providing names of candidates, or the names of those on the review board, to the public, will result in unwarranted interference in the process.

Specifically, a VA agency spokesman said public dissemination of the names would cause an unwarranted “interference” with the “process.”

Why is VA taking such an anti-press, anti-public scrutiny stance of its selection of one of the most broken divisions within VA?

For some background, I received reports concerning the selection of a new under secretary this weekend, and stakeholders expressed concern over the names being circulated.

Anti-Press, Anti-Public Scrutiny Stance?

I asked for the names of individuals intimately involved or up for evaluation, but VA refused to verify the reports or to provide any names. In response to my press inquiry, a VA spokesman replied:

The process on this must work without interference, so we do not impede it in any way. 

Please find attached the News Release and Statute regarding the Under Secretary of Benefits Commission. 

As stated in our vacancy announcement here is the evaluation process.

Step 1:  [Application reviewed to determine if applicant meets] Minimum qualifications.

Step 2:  Screening by Executive Board to determine group of candidates to be considered by the Commission.

Step 3:  The Commission interviews the most qualified candidates.

Step 4:  The Commission recommends the final candidates for consideration by the Secretary and the President.

Applicants will be evaluated based upon resume, application or curriculum vitae, and an interview if invited to appear before the Commission.

Why the need for secrecy? Is this the NSA or the VA?

VA clearly believes the former. And should we be surprised given that VA won the Golden Padlock Award in 2016 for being the most secretive federal agency?

VA even beat out DoD.

But should VA be entitled to such secrecy given the chronic fraud, waste, and abuse that has occurred over the past 80 years?

Can the agency be trusted to select competent leaders after decades of failures that ensured further waste and erosion of the public trust?

RELATED: Will New VA Exec Continue Pay For Play Scheme

Names Of Those Selected For Review By Executive Board

Over the weekend, I was given the names of individuals involved in the process involving a review board convened to select the new VA under secretary of benefits.

Reports surfaced that Thomas Murphy, Curtis Coy and Al Poteet were being considered for recommendation to the Under Secretary of Benefits Commission.

The board is formally called the Executive Board.

Former under secretary Allison Hickey is reportedly on the Committee at the request of Secretary David Shulkin, MD. By regulation, the secretary is the only official who could invite Hickey to participate in the selection process.

Commission On Under Secretary For Benefits Selection

On March 15, 2017, VA announced it established the Commission to recommend an under secretary for benefits for confirmation before the Senate:

Search commission candidates will be selected based on criteria governed by law, along with appropriate skills, knowledge and attributes as leaders, managers and educators. The commission is a prerequisite to the president’s appointment of a successful candidate, subject to Senate confirmation.

By law, the appointment is made without regard to political affiliation and solely on the basis of demonstrated ability, both in fiscal management and in the administration of programs of VBA or of similar content and scope.

Criteria For Commission Members

According to 38 USC § 306, there are certain criteria the Commission is supposed to follow when selecting the nominee. There are also certain individuals required to be on the committee:

  • Three persons representing education and training, real estate, mortgage finance, and related industries, and survivor benefits activities affected by the Veterans Benefits Administration.
  • Two persons representing veterans served by the Veterans Benefits Administration.
  • Two persons who have experience in the management of veterans benefits programs or programs of similar content and scope.
  • The Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
  • The chairman of the Veterans’ Advisory Committee on Education formed under section 3692 of this title.
  • One person who has held the position of Under Secretary for Benefits (including service as Chief Benefits Director of the Veterans’ Administration), if the Secretary determines that it is desirable for such person to be a member of the commission.

Without regard to political affiliation or activity, the Commission must select the nominee “solely on the basis of demonstrated ability in”:

  1. fiscal management; and
  2. the administration of programs within the Veterans Benefits Administration or programs of similar content and scope.

Let’s Help The Under Secretary For Benefits Commission

I would like you, my researchers and readers, to take a little time to evaluate each of the candidates and report back what you find on each.

While there is not a lot of information about Al Poteet online, there is loads of data on Thomas Murphy.

We know the claims disability backlog started under his watch signifying policy changes he was responsible for led to a substantial increase and failure to timely adjudicate claims.

We know the appeals backlog at the Board of Veterans Appeals also started under his watch meaning his employees kicked the can down the road with bad decisions.

We know his staffers are teaching veteran service officers to pressure veterans into filing to reopen claims rather than appealing claims with a notice of disagreement. This scheme rips veterans off of earlier effective dates and makes the appeals backlog look artificially small.

What else can you all find out?

Reports are circulating that Thomas Murphy is the most likely choice for the position despite his checkered history.

Or, maybe his checkered past is that makes him the likely choice?

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Mk
Mk

GOP Crickets Now??? LoLLLL

91Veteran
91Veteran

Yeah, LOLLOLLLOLOLLLL.

Things would be so much better if the VA stayed the way it was under Obama. LOL.

Amirite?

I mean, what’s the suicide rate staying the same as long as party hacks are in power.

Note to others, this is sarcasm in case that wasn’t clear.

cj
cj

@Windguy: Fist I apologize if my spelling is horrid. the color sceeme on this computer is a black background and a very light greay font, and I can’t figure out how to change it. Windguy, from your post, you have me re-thinking some stuff. For myself, I am sorry if anything I have said has added to any shit your going through. Please do not give in to these assholes. Remember, you are a warrior, warriors do not give up. Does anything po9sitive come from discussing this stuff? I think so, it sheds light on issues, and for some readers, they have felt that they were all alone in this battle. Now they knwo they are not. I do however take your words seriously, and I myself will tone back on the thetoric, you have made me realize I may be doing more harm then good, for that, I thank you. This blog is also a place where frustrated veterans can vent their frustration, although it does nothing tho change anyghhing, it sure helps with the anger, and frustration veterans hold inside. I do understand this as well. Also glad they feel okay to say what they wish. I never take anyghing another veteran says personally, and if you look back, I always side with the veteran being attacked, no matter who they are. I hope you don’t decide to give up, or stop comming to this blog,. I enjoy your comments, and often learn from them. So in the end will it change anyghing? Most likely not, corruption is diffacult at best to weed out, and almost impossible once taken root. That being said, I feel a connection to everyone here, I would hate to see anyone throw in the towel or to start feeling hopeless, or to stop posting. I think everyone here adds to each others lives in a small way. I hope you understand what I am saying. Sionce I can’t see what I am typing, I am losing my train of thought. Sorry.

namnibor
namnibor

“[…But should VA be entitled to such secrecy given the chronic fraud, waste, and abuse that has occurred over the past 80 years?

Can the agency be trusted to select competent leaders after decades of failures that ensured further waste and erosion of the public trust?

Reports are circulating that Thomas Murphy is the most likely choice for the position despite his checkered history.

Or, maybe his checkered past is that makes him the likely choice?…]”

No.

No.

And of course, a resounding YES on Murphy’s checkered past making him PERFECT for the swamp called the VA. Why? Because shit naturally always attracts more shit, especially when rolling downhill, but the VA needs no momentum for this massive shit ball to continue attracting more shitheads…at this point the ONLY WAY we are going to see REAL REFORM for Veterans and the VA is a total reset of the agency. The shitheads are packed tightly in the bowels of the V.A. Titanic and most secret agency of the USA.

The huge problem is the poop deck is so impacted with VA shitheads, nobody is looking-out for icebergs….we Veterans are those icebergs. What I am trying to say is, the VA has entirely lost it’s way and original mission , to serve and assist Veterans.

The deck is stacked against all we Veterans and that deck is packed with ugly ‘Old Maid’ cards. (Graves/Rubens, aka: The Fish Sandwich)

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Humana Veterans Healthcare Services Names New Chief Executive Officer

Apr 03, 2007, 01:00 ET from Humana Military Healthcare Services

namnibor
namnibor

” LOUISVILLE, Ky., April 3 /PRNewswire/ — Humana Inc. (NYSE: HUM)
announced the appointment of Alonzo Poteet, as Humana Veterans Healthcare
Services’ (HVHS) new Chief Executive Officer (CEO). Poteet will anchor the
company’s growing veterans’ healthcare initiatives and seek to create
strategic partnerships with the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in
order to improve the efficiency and quality of care for the entire VA
healthcare delivery system.
“We are very pleased to welcome Al to our team,” said David J. Baker,
HMHS president and CEO. “Al has a thorough understanding of the VA system.
His extensive experience and his personal dedication will play a
significant role in improving access to high quality cost-effective health
care for our country’s deserving veterans.”
“Humana Veterans is an exciting opportunity and natural fit for me,”
said Al Poteet, HVHS CEO. “Humana is a true leader in the military
healthcare arena. I am pleased to be part of the team and look forward to
the opportunities created by the new company, and even more the impact HVHS
can have on the lives of our nation’s veterans.”
Poteet has over 30 years of experience ranging from a registered
lobbyist on Capitol Hill and Political Action Committee Treasurer and
Director, to an array of leadership positions as a senior executive in both
the private and public sectors. During the Reagan and Bush Administrations,
he served as Associate Deputy Administrator for Congressional and
Intergovernmental Affairs, as well as Deputy Assistant Secretary for the
Department of Veterans Affairs in Washington, D.C. As Associate Deputy
Administrator, Poteet was responsible for successfully shepherding the
Veterans Affairs Cabinet legislation through the U.S. Congress, culminating
with President Reagan signing the “Department of Veterans Affairs Act” on
October 25, 1988. He has also been a successful Director of both federal
regional offices and medical facilities. In 2001, he was appointed
Executive Director of President Bush’s Task Force to Improve Health Care
Delivery to Our Nation’s Veterans.
About HVHS
HVHS, headquartered in Louisville, KY, is a subsidiary created by
Humana Inc. The company was formed in 2007 to develop solutions to
veterans’ healthcare issues. It provides an organizational structure that
is flexible, agile, and responsive to the emerging requirements of the
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and the veterans who rely on VA
services.
About Humana
Humana Inc., headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky, is one of the
nation’s largest publicly traded health benefits companies, with
approximately 11.3 million medical members. Humana offers a diversified
portfolio of health insurance products and related services – through
traditional and consumer- choice plans – to employer groups,
government-sponsored plans, and individuals.
Over its 46-year history, Humana has consistently seized opportunities
to meet changing customer needs. Today, the company is a leader in consumer
engagement, providing guidance that leads to lower costs and a better
health plan experience throughout its diversified customer portfolio.
More information regarding Humana is available to investors via the
Investor Relations page of the company’s web site at humana dot com,
including copies of:
— Annual reports to stockholders;
— Securities and Exchange Commission filings;
— Most recent investor conference presentations;
— Quarterly earnings news releases;
— Replays of most recent earnings release conference calls;
— Calendar of events (includes upcoming earnings conference call dates
and times, as well as planned interaction with research analysts and
institutional investors);
— Corporate Governance Information.

SOURCE Humana Military Healthcare Services]”

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

thats where my link takes you to

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Alonzo Poteet

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

YUNUS v. DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
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No. 00-3051.

242 F.3d 1367 (2001)

namnibor
namnibor

Rant:

Too bad Veteran Suicides do not make the mainstream news with the veracity of sports players like former NFL Aaron Hernandez hung himself in his prison cell last night…and this will be all over the news for coming week or more…so watch-out, the VA Public Affairs might take advantage of this smokescreen to let loose a whammy of a corruption scandal tidbit this week’s end….wait for it…

Lem
Lem

Now I understand why the money changers are on top. The commission is loaded on the “loan” side. So we actually get less service in getting mortgage and education loans with the bankers getting the top cut.

Meanwhile our direct benefits are cut. Compensation (previous article), direct education and rehab checks, etc.

The money changers at the Temple get their choice.

cj
cj

LOL, we are about to get fucked over again. This is news? I have an “OLD” idea, before they chose anyone, let’s drain the swamp “FIRST”!!!! Not gonna happen, business as usuall. Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along.
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Windguy
Windguy

Just heard that Trump signed the extension of Veterans Choice, where locally, Tri West was paid to not place us in outside services, even though we’d far exceeded wait times. Yet another giant Beltway Schwanzstucke being ungracefully rammed into the collective and now-leathered bung-hole of veterans.

Dennis
Dennis

I have carefully evaluated the three most relevent facts involving these candidates for VA office;

1) The federal government is involved.
2) The federal government is involved.
3) The federal government is involved.

I have concluded, therefor, that the federal government is involved in these decisions. It must be my genius level intellect working hard again?

Drawing from my pool of enormous cognitive potential, I have determined that there are of course two possible conclusions. One conclusion is based on a future involving federal faiery dust, sunshine, and happiness, and the other is based on a past of reckless disregard for human suffering, corruption to the tune of BILLIONS, and genuine malice directed towards United States Veterans at the hands of the federal government.

It may take some time to decide which conclusion to pick in regards to federal selection of folks to work at VA… Do I take the red pill, or the blue one?

Neo, I believe…

91Veteran
91Veteran

Why the secrecy? Likely because the VA wants to do what it wants and ignore the law in favor of a pre-selected hack with a history of illegally denying earned benefits to veterans.
Their actions scream of an attempt to keep a lid on a problem, possibly with the support of Isakson.
One would think the VA would want to be transparent in this process after the Hickey fiasco, with Pummell steering contracts and Murphy arbitrarily over-riding years of medical research and knowledge on AO exposures.

That may be what they want to keep a lid on….being flooded with claims.

Speaking of Hickey, if this is such a secret process where they have to protect the integrity of their Kangaroo Kommission, why have an outsider like Hickey on it? Particularly with her baggage?

Hell if corrupt actions are not a problem, why not have Rubens and Graves on it? Or Gigliotti? Or that perv in Kansas? Or bring back that former Skin Flute playing IG and just give the other Kommission members rain coats.

Finally, I don’t care how secretive the VA wants to be in this process. I would like to know the names and affliations of the 2 tokens being selected that are supposed to be representing veterans. Who are those that will be speaking for me and all other vets?

touchavet@gmail.com

I think Trump is finding out who has control over what goes on in the Admin.

Windguy
Windguy

Off topic – sort of. Reading Ben’s work every day, and reading the ensuing – often angry exchanges seems both addictive and depressing. The anger is understandable and shared, and sometimes lightened with dark humor. I’m in the throes of the recurrence of dreams, and trying to treat depression and dealing with physical stuff I know was caused in-service, but will never, ever be able to prove. Freud the fraud said “familiarity breeds contempt.” I have to wonder if familiarity with the VA, its deceit, its incompetence, its bureaucracies, its corruption, a cynical national leadership, and a clueless public, contributes to the potential for veteran suicides. I have over six months to make an appeal. My current thinking is to let it lapse and just say fuck it. Tough it out until I get to Medicare, optimize what I can get out of VA Healthcare to lessen the pain of Medicare. And ignore the VA, ignore the VVA, fuck a bunch of group and meds and therapy, and stay away from this and other social networking that mentions the clusterfuck that is the detritus of our military commitment.

I burned up my VA education benefits in 79 and never looked back – never had anything to do with the VA until five years ago when the dreams n’shit came back. That led to depression, that led to my business cratering, and led me to VA Healthcare. I feel like I’ve been sucked into a maelstrom of shit that only spirals downward.

Does anything positive come from discussing this stuff? Anything?

cj
cj

@Windguy: I see my reply to you ended up way out of location. One more thing about your post. You commented, ” I’m in the throes of the recurrence of dreams, and trying to treat depression and dealing with physical stuff I know was caused in-service, but will never, ever be able to prove.” As long as “they” can’t disprove it, you win. Please don’t give up.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Windguy, in my opinion discussing this stuff helps relieve stress more than it contributes to it, and helps inform other vets who may or may not be familiar with the corrupt beast they are dealing with.

I too wonder if its worth it. I went to the VA for about 20 years before moving and other life issues caused a break in going to them until about 2012.

It was amazing the difference in stress levels.

I could likely walk away from the VA again and deal with any health issues on the outside, but I can’t for several reasons.

Uncle needs to hold up his end of the promise of providing care for service connected injuries.

I cannot abandon other vets who don’t have any other option. I would rather put the screws to lazy bureaucrats.

I felt guilty thinking I had abandoned other vets when I took that break from the VA.

As a taxpayer, it pisses me off to pay so much in taxes, only to see the VA waste so damn much of their budget, and veterans who do not have any option still getting screwed hard.

I was recently contacted by another vet in my unit during the Gulf War. It was a shock sitting in the chow tent one night when he came in. He was in another unit attached to mine, and he went to school with my brother.

I found out how bad he is recently after being injured while on Active Duty. He’s trying to live life as best he can with his family, which is tough for him given his condition and how hard the VA had been screwing him.

I can’t walk away from that.

But I also understand those that need to for their own peace of mind.

cj
cj

Out of the asylum for the rest of the day…………..I know, good, don’t let the door hit me in the ass.

91Veteran
91Veteran

So, Murphy. I won’t comment on the lunacy of thinking an AO denier is competent or honest enough for this job.

Coy. Given he has been serving as the Deputy Undersecretary for Economic Opportunity at the VA since 2011, and given the state of the economy for a veteran, homelessness, jobless, the disaster known as VocRehab, the mish-mash of the GI Bill, home loans, etc., one can only ask why anyone believes such a person is qualified for a promotion.

Seriously? If he was competent, would all those programs show an improvement over his 6 year tenure?

I guess it must be the highlight on his LinkedIn page showing he is sought after for giving commencement addresses. WOW!

His history shows he enlisted in the Air Force, then was appointed to the Naval Academy in 1975.

It looks like he started out as an assistant weapons officer, then was an anti-sub officer before becoming a supply officer.

Was that because he couldn’t handle the other jobs so he got sent to supply?

He finished his career after serving as the assistant whatever for years, ending up as a Deputy Assistant in contracting.

He’s bounced around to various assistant or Deputy jobs at federal agencies like HHS or FDA since 2000, and touts on his LinkedIn site his work on Obamacare and getting the Healthcare dot gov site up, although I don’t know that I would brag about that.

Coy, like Hickey and Murphy was around when a great deal of corruption was going on, including BS contracts being let.

Like a swamp rat zombie feeding.

But hey! We have a couple of unknown people looking out for our interests right?

Poteet is next.

Lem
Lem

Sounds like a TBI while in the anti-sub officer not severe enough to board him out. Damaged goods. Would like to see his military health record.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Poteet. What an interesting history.

According to that YUNUS vs DVA before the MPSB, Yunus was appealing his firing from the VA in 1998, and he lost the appeal.

Poteet was involved in that as the Daytona Clinic Coordinator.

Interesting to see he rose to become a VA Deputy Assistant Secretary fast enough to be a former Deputy less than 10 years later when he was hired by Humana in Feb 2007 to grease the skids for Project HERO, which appears to be the precursor to privatization of the VA, or the current Choice program.

A bit of Information can be found about Yunus vs VA, and information on Poteet and Humana, but one of the best descriptions of politics, the VA, Humana and Poteet is in an April 2009 article in the Nation titled Casualties of Care about Humana, the VA, privatization, politics and the VA, and how lobbying influences politicians more than veterans.

The article says Poteet was an Army gunship pilot in Vietnam.

Perhaps Poteet has the best chance out of the 3 if the idea is to move towards shutting down or privatizing VA.

Notwithstanding the political slant of the Nation magazine and the scare tactics used against veterans getting outside care, it’s a good history and shows we are still in the same mess 10 years later.

There is the little matter of a 1980 complaint by the Federal Election Commission over a violation of the VFW giving a $25000 loan to the VFW PAC which Poteet served as the Treasurer. Seems there was an issue of co-mingling funds.

Back to Project HERO. That was started as a pilot project in 2007. Humana still has a web page describing it that shows it was still ongoing in Feb 2013.

The web address is “Humana-veterans dot com”.

The description looks much like a description for Choice.

Looks like Pelosis friend George Miller, HealthNet and others beat out Humana for Choice.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Off topic but important:

“Trump signs bill allowing veterans to seek care outside broken VA system”, by Sarah Westwood | Apr 19, 2017, 11:53 AM

“http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-signs-bill-allowing-veterans-to-seek-care-outside-broken-va-system/article/2620659”

Jo3n
Jo3n

Good to know, now to get it to work in Alabama. Thanks for all the info all of you provide.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

In a recent article published in USA Today the author states that VA Secretary David Shulkin said “bring it on” is his new message about public scrutiny. Yet Shulkin is still hiding the truth about who is being considered for selection of the Department of Veterans Affairs undersecretary for benefits. We all know that the big six VSOs have had their chance to enter their two cents on the pick at monthly backroom meetings.

Clearly VA Secretary David Shulkin is hiding the names of the swamp creatures he and the VSOs are looking to put into that position. Hiding the names from the public to avoid scrutiny totally the opposite of what was claimed in the USA Today article. That makes Shulkin a Fricken liar regarding public scrutiny at the VA.

Hey Shulkin, what’s it going to be?

Shulkin while we are on the topic of public scrutiny, another couple of questions regarding why the VA is hiding the number of C-difficile cases at VA hospitals and nursing homes.

Is it because people at the VA are making money by allowing European Union Pharmaceutical companies to infect Veterans with C-diff to test new theories and pharmaceuticals? How many Veterans were murdered so far?

See: “Oral Administration of Non-Aggressive Strain of C difficile Reduces Risk of Recurrence of C difficile Infection”, Gerding, Dale N. M.D., Edward Hines Jr. VA Hospital, Hines, Il and Loyola University Chicago.

“http://media.jamanetwork.com/news-item/oral-administration-of-non-aggressive-strain-of-c-difficile-reduces-risk-of-recurrence-of-c-difficile-infection/”

Don’t let the title of the research fool anyone. There is no Non-Aggressive strain although it is less aggressive it still kills. In the study after a Veteran has survived C-diff for a period of time of between 4 to six weeks they then re-infect them with a less aggressive strain. The European Ethics committees that approved this research, using US Veterans, are based in Germany and Belgium.

The company sponsoring the research is Shire Pharma out of Ireland.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

If anyone is interested, in the name of Public Scrutiny, I will put together a list of the VAMCs involved and the Dr. Names at those facilities who are involved with this murdering of Veterans.

touchavet@gmail.com

how would a vet know if he or she has become a test subject.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

For the record.

“Conflict of Interest Disclosures: All authors have
completed and submitted the ICMJE Form for
Disclosure of Potential Conflicts of Interest. Dr
Gerding reports holding patents for the prevention
of CDI licensed to ViroPharma/Shire; consultancy
for ViroPharma/Shire, MedImmune, Sanofi Pasteur,
Cubist, Optimer, DaVolterra, and Pfizer; and
membership in the advisory boards of Merck,
Rebiotix, Summit, and Actelion. Dr Lee reports
participation in clinical trials for ViroPharma,
Actelion, Cubist, and Merck and membership in the
advisory boards for Rebiotix, Cubist, and Merck. Dr
Cohen reports membership in the advisory boards
of Merck and ViroPharma/Shire and clinical trial
participation with ViroPharma/Shire, Cubist,
Actelion, and Merck. Dr Poirier reports clinical
trial participation with GlaxoSmithKline, Merck,
Cubist, Bayer, Actelion, and ViroPharma.
Dr Van Schooneveld reports research support from
ViroPharma and Cubist and speaker fees from
Thermo-Fischer. Dr Pardi reports consultancy for
Seres Health and having served on advisory boards
for Cubist and Optimer. Dr Barron reports
membership in advisory boards for Astellas Pharma
US and current clinical trial participation with
Astellas Pharma US, ViroPharma/Shire,
GlaxoSmithKline, Actelion T2 Biosystems, and
Merck. Dr Chen reports Shire stock/options. Drs
Chen and Villano were full-time employees of
ViroPharma/Shire during the conduct of this study.
No other disclosures were reported.
Funding/Support: This study was sponsored by
ViroPharma Incorporated, which is now part of the
Shire group of companies.
Role of the Funder/Sponsor: Viropharma/Shire
employees were involved in the study design and
management, analysis, and interpretation of the
data. Viropharma/Shire employees or former
employees are authors of this article and were
involved in the drafting of the manuscript and
approval to submit the manuscript for publication.”

“http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2281703”

Additional info provided in the PDF version accessible from the link above

91Veteran
91Veteran

If I didn’t know any better, I would say these doctors have holdings in a foreign medical entity so they can also obtain patents and shield any earnings for any medicines created after testing on US veterans.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Touchavet,

If you use Veterans Administration Health Care you are a lab rat.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

91Veteran,

You are right, also check who is also collecting a paycheck at Hines VAMC and he also owns the patent rights for the new drug at Viropharma/Shire. Dr. Dale Gerding at:

“https://www.va.gov/providerinfo/includes/detail_iframe.asp?sitenameOD=HINES&providerid=513”

It is exactly like Dr. Raymond Schinazi and his company Pharmasset and the Hep-C drug. Gerding owns Shire and Viropharma. Both are privately owned and the ownership is hidden.

One very disturbing issue I have with their reported research was that on the same day that the research ended they changed the enrollment numbers from 240 enrolled to 173 enrolled. It seems these murdering crooks removed 67 patients from the enrollment so they could change the results of the study by 27%. The about the amount they claimed there treatment helped.

“https://clinicaltrials.gov/archive/NCT01259726/2013_08_13/changes”

91Veteran
91Veteran

Seymore, another exhibit of the stellar ethics by VA medical quacks.

So even though this is well known, I bet he claims he only worked 5% of his time on this and spent no government money when he cashes in.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – Some Veterans, at the present time, have no choice but to use the services of the VA Healthcare system. As per myself, I try to keep abreast of types of treatments that I should be more aware and why. Remember when I mentioned that I was on Tramadol in the past? Seymore, I don’t consider myself to be a lab rat, only if I subject myself to a medical service from the VA in which I know that is dangerous.

I understand that you’re informing @[email protected] that he is a lab rat. But some of us don’t really need any extra stress directed towards us because others are able to get medical services outside the VA. We don’t need anyone to try and belittle us anymore than what we’re already experiencing from a Federal Agency, who responsibility is to take care of us all [Veterans].

Seymore, no ill feelings towards you, but some of us are trying our best to get out of the dam swamp ASAP. Thanks.

Have you noticed how much Press Coverage that Fernandez has received already? More coverage than all the VA issues put together.

*MSM outlets are not Veterans best friends. They are our enemy.

*Veterans- A forgotten portion of American society.

*A Stroke of the Pen- An Executive Order to Implement Changes in the VA.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

ANutterVet,

I don’t mean to upset anyone, but the plain truth is anyone receiving health care through the VA is a research subject. Whether you give your consent or not they use all patients at the VA in research. Some of it terminal.

namnibor
namnibor

Back when I still utilized the VA for my medical the VA infected me with a very bad case of C-DIFF *and* MRSA. I spent a good part of a year and half in and out of private/state hospital using my at the time State Medicaid and Medicare, as I was dually qualified in those years waiting on my VA Compensation and SSDI.

The VA could have cared less and was even told by some nursing hack that “…all medical environments have C-DIFF and MRSA…”, and the VA saw no big deal, even though I live with a seriously compromised immune system…they simply did not care and were as indifferent as an amusement park employee being asked by a little kid to fetch their lost balloon from the lagoon….only difference is, it was the VA SWAMP, not any lagoon.

If I did not have Medicare, I fear that I would die an early death by the VA. However, that does not make me indifferent to the plight of all Veterans and the VA because I will be honest in that there’s some self-serving motivation to my wanting the VA SWAMP drained/cleaned-up and it’s simple: I really would like to feel safe enough to use my damned earned VA benefits.
As it still stands, even with a brand new VAMC in Columbus, they STILL do not have an Infectious Disease Clinic and will not give CHOICE because they FORCE all Vets to either drive all the way to Dayton VAMC or the Columbus VAMC will have their funny hat-wearing VSO’s drive their van to Dayton…and the last thing I want is to be put on the DBC for getting motion sick and puking in their van…which would happen.
I agree, Seymore Klearly; using the VA is a dire risk to one’s health.

MSGT Leroy G FOSTER
MSGT Leroy G FOSTER

DEFINITELY NO NO NO TO THOMAS MURPHY AND THE OTHER TWO. TOM MURPHY IS A LIAR. MOST NOTABLY HIS LETTER TO ME DENYING THAT I HANDLED, MIXED AND POWER SPRAYED AGENT ORANGE HERBICIDES ON GUAM WHERE I SPRAYED IT FROM 1968 TO 1978 FOR THE US AIR FORCE. MR MURPHY AND MRS MURPHY ARE LIARS. TOTALLY. I EXPOSED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VETERANS AND MILITARY DEPENDENTS AND CIVILIANS,TO VAST AMOUNTS OF AO TCDD DIOXIN WITH HUNDREDS OF EYE WITNESSES INCLUDING VA SENIOR EMPLOYEES WHO WERE EXPOSED TO AO BECAUSE OF ME THAT ARE TERMINAL AND WON THEIR APPEALS FOR DIRECT AO EXPOSURE ON GUAM.

Jo3n
Jo3n

@SeymourKlearly, I was trying to follow up on the choice bill. What I come up with is there is a billion dollars in the bank, and program ends in August, this year. I go to Clinic tomorrow, and plan on trying to apply it.. Does someone know about the ACCOUNTABILITY bill that was stalled in the Senate?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – Subject; Veterans as Lab Rats – There are those Veterans that are going through additional stress, because they have no choice at the present time but to be treated at the VA, until their circumstances change. What I was talking about is being a little more sensitive. For me, as a Biologist, I surely know that the VA dramatically fails in treating Veterans properly. And, being on the edge of defending myself from what I know to be dirty science, I don’t want to be reminded about what I might or could be, but to know that my Brothers and Sisters have my back, because they know that I’m stuck in a fucking rat hole, and being monitored by Rat Bastards. Fuck them.

Plus Seymore, we don’t really know how stable a Veterans mind is when they post on Ben’s blog. There are many days that I don’t want no one to touch me. I’m ready to explode. And, I have thoughts going through my mind in which I never had before. But yet, if the VA is informed, and they suspect that I want to commit the final exit, they can dispatch a party to pick me up, and I guarantee you all hell will break out.

The loss of only one Veteran makes me fucking pissed off. No offense. I don’t like bullies [VA] and I’ll buck up against them every time.

There are those that have enough stress let alone knowing this, being stuck in the mess, and being exposed to the VA’s medical providers and constantly arguing with them. Then, the VA knowing that you’re under additional stress [these people aren’t dumb fucks, they’ve be fucking us over for 80+ years], they only offer Veterans antidepressants for stress. The dam Behavioral Health doctors don’t even know how to start, continue, or even create probing questions directed at their patients [except for manipulation or using information against you].

Trump needs to act fast because he is loosing his base. Time isn’t on Veterans side when they are dying from suicide, and improper and malpractice medical services from the VA. My wife has instructions to take me to the Private Hospital in my area if I need to be admitted. This is to protect all parties.

namnibor
namnibor

@ANutterVet- Amen!!

(if I may be away in a few days, my father passed early this morning. Heading to be with my mother and funeral in another state for a quick departure from my own life. Life’s shit sandwiches keep getting served and sometimes, you just have to eat it and ask, “Sir, may I have another!”.

Peace.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – I’m sorry to hear about your father. You don’t have my contact information, and vice versa. What to do? Brother, please find that place of contentment and happiness in which we spoke of in the past. I know how you must feel even though you stated that your father and you weren’t close. All to do now is, put all your love onto your mom. You know what I’m saying. Drive safe to and fro, and honestly and truthfully, may you mom, your family, and yourself be blessed. Brings back mind shaking and to the nerve, dramatic memories for me. God bless you Nam.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I am sorry for your loss Nam.

cj
cj

@namnibor: Sorry for your loss namnibor, be safe.

Disgruntled Veteran
Disgruntled Veteran

@Namnibor – – – I am sorry for your loss. Take care. Be safe. Come back to us.

Ex va
Ex va

@namnibor, sorry for your loss of your father. God Bless.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Namnibor,

Sorry for your loss. Also look out for your mother. This is a time she will really need you.

namnibor
namnibor

The funeral will not be until Tuesday, so will be traveling there Sunday evening and then return back here to my home on Wed. Been helping mother where I can with things, she’s quite a machine and like me, I tend to refocus pent-up things into cleaning, hobbies or whatnot.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – If I came across abruptly, I didn’t mean too. I get tired of the VA’s abusive, corruptive, and down right despicable acts of conduct that directly goes against Veterans, by lining the fucking VA’s leadership pockets with blood money from the lives of Veterans. These people keep pushing it, and pushing it. If there is an outbreak of some sort, there’re to blame.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

ANutterVet,

You didn’t come across abruptly or offensively. I appreciate your honesty and concern.

I am just being honest in my assessment of the VA.

A quick question not related to the VA if you don’t mind. As a Biologist and the current events with Korea. With both China and Russia shoring up their borders with North Korea to prevent a massive refuge crisis of infected refugees.

Where do you think the North Korean sponsored biological events will strike first here in the U.S.? Washington D.C., New York City and South Florida around Mar-A-Largo are givens. But will they be in major population centers or more rural populations?

cj
cj

Anybody home?

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, knock, knock……..

cj
cj

@Ex va: Ex how are you? Sorry I was reading and didn’t see the notification.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, that is ok i am not that fast anyways. Lol! Did you have a good weekend? Pain today had fronts moving thru. How are you doing today?

cj
cj

@Ex va: I am better today then yesterday. Yesterday no drama, then around 5or6pm I strarted to have some kind of an attack, lung related, lasted till around 11pm, was horrible. Didn’t see you online lastnight, thought maybe you were mad at one of my comments lol, or your were in a lot of pain from the weather changes. Sorry your in a lot of pain tonight.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, no, i wasn’t mad. Lol! If i was i would have said something. If someone says something i find offensive i will say something, but i am getting older so i have to watch it someone could kick my ass easy. Lol. Saw family spent a lot of time with family. No i wasn’t online on the blog. My ipad had to charge and my laptop too. Didn’t do a lot of tech stuff over the weekend. Yes, this weather has been bothering me a lot i didn’t do much of anything today.
What kinda problems with your lung?
Was it a lot of pain? Do you take aspirin for prevention of blood clots? That is bad with the lung you have to be careful with that. I had a friend who got a blood clot in lung caused them a lot of pain. Had to get on blood thinners in hospital. They were in a car for a long trip.

cj
cj

@Ex va: Good to hear you will speak up, I like that. Not shure, this isn’t the first time this has happened, but it has been a while since the last attack. Not painful, just very uncomfortable, short of breath, feels like a tickling in the lungs, then skin starts to feel like burning. I have a pulmonary appointment comming due soon. No idea what it is, I do take a lowdose asprin, past heart attack.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, good you take aspirin for heart. It helps with blood clots too. Good you have a pulmonary appointment. All the pollen is out this time of year. It can irritate lungs. Does it cause you to break out in a sweat??

Good you see regular doctors. I have blooms all over the strawberry plants now. The weather has been warm then cold and then rain. I would like to start a little vegetable bed i don’t know if i will get to it this year.

cj
cj

@Ex va: No sweats. You should try a small vegetable garden, something simple and low maintenance, like green beans, snap peas, a single tomato plant.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, i was thinking a small container garden. Like you said something simple and low maintenance.

cj
cj

@Ex va: Figure out what you like to eat and go from there. Tomato plant I would get a cherry tomato, or grape tomato. Veggies are to your liking.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, i need to get serious about this planting time will be over before i know it. Like a lot of different tomatoes. I like homegrown veggies the best. The other night on this blog was hilarious. I was laughing about that till the next day. Didn’t know who was posting what. LOL!!!

cj
cj

@Ex va: Ex, it isn’t too late, we don’t plant here till mother’s day. Okay, really mean it this time…goodnight.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, Goodnight and God bless!

cj
cj

@Ex va: LOL I don’t think I spelled like-ing the right way. Anyway Ex, I need to get some sleep, I have my Thursday appointment. Hope you sleep well. Will talk tomorrow evening. God Bless you and your family.