Gulf War Illness GAO Report

Gulf War Illness Report Finds VA Rejects 80 Percent Disability Claims

A report released Monday revealed VA denies 4 of 5 disability claims for veterans claiming disability for Gulf War illness despite evidence showing over 40 percent suffer from it.

The Government Accountability Office released a report Monday analyzing Gulf War Illness (GWI) claims of veterans from 2010 to 2015. Of the 102,000 claims received, VA only approved 18,000. That is less than 20 percent.

Problems with the unusually high rejection numbers include:

  • Poor training of VA medical examiners
  • Poor training of VA adjudicators
  • Vague denial letters
  • Erratic application of diagnostic standards
  • Etc (insert all normal mistakes VA always makes)

Is VA Leadership To Blame?

Gina Farrisee, a retired Army General with a history of covering up scandals including the Pat Tillman friendly fire incident, in her role as VA deputy chief of staff, stated that medical examiners would be required to take training on Gulf War illness.

RELATED: General Reprimanded In Tillman Scandal Now Head Of VA Human Resources

To this point, all training for Gulf War illness was optional, and only a small percentage (10 percent) of medical examiners took the training. Unlike many other disabling conditions, Gulf War is more nuanced with a variety of symptoms and causes the result in similar problems that are not conventionally studied in medical programs.

Did VA Know About The Problem?

Do we think the lack of training on how to diagnose Gulf War illness contributed to the super low approval ratings for claims?


Do we think VA was aware of the poor training numbers over the previous 27 years VA has wrongly denied floods of Gulf War illness claims?


Do we think VA really cares about getting it right for any and all veteran disability claims?

Hell no.

This seems similar to the recent revelation that VA used unqualified doctors to evaluate veterans who claim benefits for traumatic brain injury residuals. Even veterans with documented concussions with documented residuals were denied benefits by incompetent doctors.

RELATED: VA Admits Almost 25,000 Veterans Affected By TBI Scandal

VA knew about the problem but did not address it nationwide until the press began to sniff around. Now, we are learning that Gulf War veterans are experiencing a similar fate.

Bureau Of War Risk Insurance

VA used to be called the Bureau of War Risk Insurance. All its disability policies have their Genesis from that period, using restrictive insurance adjudication policies to game the system.

This may explain why people like Gina Farrisee are kept in the system for so long.

Hell, Farrisee was pushed into the role by former chief of staff John Gingrich, an Army commander responsible for covering up one of the key Gulf War exposures to chemical weapons unveiled in 2015 by Newsweek.

RELATED: Former VA Chief Of Staff Linked To Gulf War Cover-up

Beyond this, Farrisee’s supervision in the Army was linked to the Tillman cover-up – – she was actually reprimanded for her role. She was also linked to a massive wrongful discharge scheme of soldiers suffering from PTSD who were falsely diagnosed with personality disorder.

If you think this sounds like a fluke that somehow results in screwing over the same population affected by a previous cover-up orchestrated by Gingrich, you are a fool.

Farrisee is exactly where America’s controllers want her to be. She is a career bureaucrat whose sole existence in the government has been linked to scandal after scandal while in the Army.

And, for those of you thinking VA will suddenly fix this problem, just remember VA is also still fighting against science proving the affect of Agent Orange. Odds are VA will fight against what is right for Gulf War veterans, too.

Will Trump Fire Farrisee?

I cannot help but wonder what heads might roll after such a horrific and disgusting example of how VA is historically screwing veterans.

Should we expect President Donald Trump’s accountability program will do a thing to combat the bureaucratically inbred anti-veteran, anti-science positions the agency takes?

I would not hold my breath waiting for problems like this in VA. Screwing veterans out of benefits is the one thing VA has consistently mastered over the past eighty years.

You should not hold your breath, either.


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  1. I am lean mean Marine asking who reads this call your Representative and your Senators passed a New Disabled Benefit Law who is 100 percent service connected definitely need to have G4implants by a Cosmetic Dentistry Dentist that know how to put in G4implants unfortunately they have not one works for a Veteran Medical Center plus their isn’t not one has a contract with Veteran Affairs Admistratation but they have a Private Clinics know how to put in G4implants unfortunately they want all the money upfront the Federal Government……as a Concerned Veteran believe that Veterans call your Senators and Representative and ask them contract Veteran Affairs Committee in Washington, DC say to them if a Veteran is 100 percent service connected definitely need to have G4implants should granted the G4implants for free even if the Cosmetic Dentistry Dentist that know how to put in G4implants because if A Disabled Veterans who don’t get the G4implants it causes the Health Care Problems plus three quarters of the Disabled Veterans who is collected 100 percent service connected can’t even afford to get a loan to get the G4implants they need remember with out Veterans we would be call United States and who would Defend United States plus who would be protected the Wall so illegal immigrants cross over to United States to sell their drugs…….Semper Fi

  2. I searched [pre-deployment vaccines Brucella Melitensis gulf war veterans] & 10 yrs ago a hearing was held 9/25/2007 OVERSIGHT HEARING ON RESEARCH AND TREATMENT FOR GULF WAR ILLNESSES @ “”
    Dr Nass testimony is very interesting…
    2 statements from Meryl Nass, M.D., Mt. Desert Island Hospital, Bar Harbor, Maine
    ‘Physicians have still not been taught this is a real illness, let alone how to evaluate and care for the patients.’ &
    ‘The American Type Culture Collection (ATCC) supplied various microbial cultures to Iraq, in shipments approved by the Dept of Commerce, during a period in which the United States assisted Iraq in its war with Iran. This may have influenced why infections due to Brucella Melitensis, one of the bacteria provided to Iraq, were not investigated.’

    Another Deliberately Covered Up(?) & 10 yrs later still no change to the poor training of VA medical. It seems testing a stool sample will tell if you got Brucella Melitensis.

    1. Nitewish, read the link below. Its about Joshua Lederberg who sat on the ATCC board at the time they were shipping these samples to Iraq.

      He later ended up on a DOD board that was dismissing any Gulf War vets health issues to exposures in the Gulf, particularly bio weapons.


      1. 91Veteran, Nobel Lunatic who “Being successful at a very young age gave him the confidence and the capability to try out other things” like provide the means for experimentation on people with microbial genetics. He’s dead but his work continues.

    2. the reasons for
      these illnesses may never be known because important records
      were not kept or were lost

      Gives me a idea next time I get stopped for speeding I’LL tell the os-i-fer sorry but I lost my drivers license and see where that gets me …..

  3. Rise and Shine Veterans and Spread the word call your Senators and Representative hired a Cosmetic Dentistry Dentist that know how to put in G4implants Semper Fi

  4. If I said it once, I’ll say it a million times. The VA hires rude and inept employees INTENTIONALLY – in order to frustrate veterans and deter veterans from seeking benefits and health care.

    1. When that has happened to me, I run it right up to the Hospital Director. I refuse to be treated poorly and am not intimidated!

      The rude ones fortunately few in my experience usually get their come uppance. I had an eye doctor once dilate my eyes twice and then left for the day without doing the exam. My complaint was the final straw and he “retired.”

      Some Patient Advocates are not very helpful either which is very sad because that’s their only function!

      I run their name up the flagpole too!

      WE must look out for ourselves but sometimes starting at the top gets better results.

      At least locally!

      1. R 2-6, starting at the top locally is helpful, but those at the top locally need to know you will not stop going higher, to whatever level needed.

        Which is the reason my director now responds to my emails, usually within a day.

      2. The top is Shulkin. ! Will see if he means it about holding employees accountable.

        Pretty ? when the chief of staff and the director covers up for an employee that is harming a veteran and they know they did so and that’s the VA way. !

        Collected 14 year’s of evidence to prove my case. Some veterans stand up for themselves some are so disabled or older veterans that get the brunt of the employee anger.

        When your right, your right and must stand your ground and fight, fight, fight until someone listens.

        The someone is Secretary Shulkin, some manager’s will deny they knew about the problem, so I sent copies to the white house, senator’s committee on veterans affairs and to a senator who started the Bill.

        Sent May 2, 2017, now it’s a wait and see. !

        The Secretary talks a good talk, now have to see if he will walk the walk. !

      3. Addendum:

        I send it to the Director of the Battle Creek Hospital. She supervises BC, Grand Rapids, Muskegon. Although, she is currently in Ann Arbor working on their issues.

        She personifies – “I Care.”

        Generally I get a response from her within hours. She even responded once while on vacation.

        Shulkin wouldn’t get involved even if there was a way to contact him. He’s a shill for the Administration!

      4. I wrote jus office in Washington. The employee committed a class 6 felony of criminal libel.

        I’m glad u ran into someone who was willing to help, seems those are few and far between.

        I know that he won’t handle the case himself, but they can not say they knew nothing about it.

  5. VA denied 80% of disability claims filed by Gulf War veterans.
    Wonder why sometimes I feel like I was better off KIA, than to deal w/this BS

    1. @Jose Velazquez; I know what you mean Jose, but nobody here thinks you were better off, We kinda like you living, and fighting these rat bastards with us.

    2. jose, don’t get mad get even. Join us ! Many of us have had problems with the VA. If you like share your story, many veterans have found out that others went through the same thing.

      You have some veterans on here that give good advise and Ben has written many stories about the VA and I believe that we on this site have had people take our advise and has helped change the VA in a small way.

      One thing we say on here never give up. You can look at different posts and can learn and your input is needed. Thanks

  6. There is no one in the VA system (except for maybe a couple of doctors), or in our government, that is willing to help, I found that out the hard-way, meanwhile I can thank God for my social security which keeps my family from being homeless once more, while I am stuck at home taking morphine 4X daily along with 20 other medications, while using a cane. walker, and or wheel chair (depending on my pain level) just to get around. Yes I signed a blank check, and I still have my pride knowing that I did so, if I were able to do it over again, I really actually would. But believe me when I tell you that no one in the VA nor Government really give two shits about your gulf war illness, and or injuries, and will not help you, but will pay you a hell of a lot of lip service. I finally got wise, and hired a Law-firm just this past year. BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU, “THE WHOLE WE TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS” IS NOTHING LESS THAN A BIG JOKE. And of course those running for office will pay you the same lip service just so they can get your vote, and win their elections. The VA, Politicians, and So called over site committees will allow you to die on the side of the road, than really help you. When I die from all this bullshit illness, I only ask that I be buried in uniforms with a Walmart American flag that in no doubt my wife and kids would have to buy, and I want to be laid to rest Face down so that every individual who has handled my paperwork in order to just file 13 my documents, and deny me, as well as every lip service paying politician in our government, can be able to get a great view of my ass and kiss it.

  7. If, the existing laws, or screwed with laws, of which many are good, aren’t secretly fucked with, we could do something. We need to know who’s introduced these changes and find out why.

  8. No slack for VA employees, no matter if they’re a Veteran or not. They’ve got to serve someone, and it isn’t you nor me. VA employees serve themselves. No waivers. Fuck you VA.

  9. Just checked the, “Bivins Rule.” Over the years it’s been changed. I can’t seem to find anything recent, other than lower courts aren’t allowed to interpret the Rule. IT sounded good in the beginning. I’ve been waiting 17years for my first hearing. Wish there was a law to do hearings in a timely manner. Good article Ben..

  10. Agent Orange redux. I would THINK, not being a lawyer, and even if I were disagreements of this nature are why there is an appellate system, but I would think that a piss off enough for being pissed on Veteran could massage the Bivens Ruling (1971), or what of it still stands since it’s a post-national security issue we are talking about, to go after the VA employees and sub-contractors DIRECTLY for defrauding or attempting to defraud the veteran of their rights and benefits….

  11. I also want to point out that in the past GERD claims were denied by the VA based solely on upper GI barium swallow tests ordered by C&P Examiners. I encountered this when I first filed a GERD claim after having been diagnosed and treated in service. The claim was denied solely on the upper GI test because the results were “negative.” It was not until my private gastro doctor told me that upper GI barium tests cannot detect GERD, therefore a “negative” test does not mean that you don’t have GERD. After researching this, I refiled a claim and was awarded GERD, however the tests are still referred to BVA court cases to this day as irrefutable evidence. Here are several facts: the upper GI test was discredited as a diagnostic test for GERD in the late 70’s, and by 1980 it was well known that the test produced “frequent false negatives.” The 1985 C&P Examiners Manual explicitly states that the test is “accurate less than 50 percent of the time.” Further research showed that the actual accuracy rate of the upper GI test to diagnose GERD is between 20-35%. That means that if you have GERD, you are more likely to have a “negative” upper GI test result. The VA has been, and sometimes still does, use this test to deny veterans’ GERD claims unless you point it out. Any medical textbook (Cecils, Harrison, Merck) as well as Gastro textbooks make it very clear that the upper GI test should not be used as a screening test for GERD. Not only that, the American Gastro Clinical Practice Guidelines state the same. VA C&P Examiners are using this test to deny claims, especially in the past. If you know any veteran that was denied GERD based solely on this test result they should refile the claim.

    1. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention that the DOD and VHA published GERD Clinical Practice Guidelines on the diagnosis and treatment of GERD in March 2003. There is a section on barium diagnostic tests in the CPGs. I find it hard to believe that C&P Examiners were unaware of the test being discredited as a screening test for GERD. However, they frequently referred to “negative” test results as the reason a veteran does not have GERD. Error rate of the test is as high as 80%. A diagnostic or screening test with an accuracy rate of 50% has NO diagnostic value, it’s like flipping a coin. So, again, if you know any veterans that have been denied based on the upper GI barium swallow, they need to refile their claim if they have other medical evidence or diagnosis of GERD.

  12. That is a good one ! Ben, and I like Her name “Farisee”! I guess goes with her actions!

    1. I also appreciated the grammatical/historical irony of her name of “Farisee”.

      “Pharisee”: 2.

      (lowercase) a sanctimonious, self-righteous, or hypocritical person. 🙂

  13. When I get elected POTUS here is what I would do;

    I would take the most senior 50% of all people working at VBA and transfer them into a different cabinet post set up purely for vet advocacy and under an entirely different chain of command than VA. The 50% would include ALL advocacy services presently offered within VA at any level.

    The VA mission, both VBA and VHA would remain unchanged simply because VA has demonstrated a legendary tenacity to ignore and betray the rule of law. We can change the godamn mission statement as often as I change my underwear and the VA is STILL gonna stink like shit the moment the new slogans roll off the press and WE ALL GODAMN KNOW IT. For us mortals to believe we can remove corruption from the halls of government is to believe we can eliminate sunburn in our generation if we just unite behind the effort and toss a few virgins into the volcano as insurance.

    What has to be done is to swim along with the river instead of trying to dam it up or worse try going upstream. It just never works out long, right? With government we need to make it equally profitable for government workers themselves to turn their wits against each other to advance financially. Let us turn the dogs on themselves. The 50% of the most senior and arguably the most knowledgable folks transfered to the new agency would have a simple mission; to advocate on a case by case basis for the successful award of ALL benefits every single vet qualifies for. Their exclusive mission would be to work the machine of VA with the prime goal of being to capture every possible dime the veteran is entitled to. A job like this can get real slimy, so the new agency would be staffed by former VA workers. As positions open up, new staff would be taken from VA rolls. Sort of a “good slime” / “bad slime” solution, eh?

    Now here is the nugget – the BONUS SYSTEM for this new group of federal servants would be VERY SIMPLE: For every single veteran awarded compensation or services who worked through the new slimeball federal advocacy agency, then the federal slimeball worker who personally represented the vet would get a percentage of the total value of compensation that they recovered for the vet as a bonus to their standard wage. This is a very easy calculation that is directly tied to the successful completion of their duties which is simply to obtain all authorized monetary awards for the vet. No award? No bonus. Big award? Big bonus. Period.

    The bonus percentage would not be deducted from the vet. The money savings would be ENORMOUS! VA could virtually eliminate the public relations department who constantly spins reasons why the slugs leave a slime trail. Former VA employees in the new agency would have a unique perspective about the correct orifice in which the combat boots get the most notice when inserted and the VERY FIRST senior members of the new agency to be appointed would be the whistleblowers who have been verifiably jerked around by their AFGE brothers at VA…

    Judges and VBA staff would not have to spend lifetimes sifting through incomplete (but totally valid) claims, as well as the gargantuan task of filtering the 99% of the shit we vets include in our claims that has no meaning within the VBA decision structure. Appeals workloads would be virtually eliminated.

    Moreover, VBA has to be run as an adversarial relationship to vets. It cannot function without them doubting the veracity of veteran claims. With the new advocacy agency in place VBA would no longer be in the position of being both the gate guard and the cashier at the same time. As we know, their history as a cashier is a dismal failure. They are ruthless and clever gate guards though…

    Wtih VA we pay bonus money seemingly when a VA employee successfully converts oxygen while on VA property. This of course encourages VA employees to focus simply on that task to get ahead in life. With the new agency, an employee could have unlimited earning potential just by finding a way to make the system work like it is intended to work.

    1. @Dennis- Sounds GREAT…but you must devise a method from the start to then prevent these same hacks cherry-picking veteran claim files and ONLY going after the potential high $$$ claims and then leaving the “lessor claim$” untouched.
      Not finding critical fault with your plan, just see immediately how the engorged purple teams would scam that system as well.
      Human and VA Greed knows absolutely no limits and we must use methods accordingly to keep their ratty-claws from cherry-picking claim$ and tossing the “low $$$ claims” in an industrial shredder.

  14. The VA rejects the majority of all claims, not just Gulf War claims. They are not in existence to provide care and treatment for Veterans, they are in existence to suck money up and provide companies with a revenue stream so that they can pay senators and congressmen millions of dollars of contributions.

  15. Not surprised. 100% of cerebral malaria claims rejected since the beginning of time.

    1. @Lem,
      Yea, you got that right!
      I caught malaria while in Nam. To this day I’m NOT allowed to give blood on any “blood drive!”
      Yet, hey, does the VA gives a shit? Not one bit!

      1. Did you have p. falciparum or vivax? Did you get the ice shower? Any amnesia?

        I need a p. falciparum malaria victim with residuals of organic brain damage, similar to a TBI but more difficult to diagnose because the damage is generally global, to join me in my SF-95 tort claim before December of 2019.

      2. @Lem,
        Since I’m not familiar with those terms you’re using, I’m going to have to say “NO!” to your question.
        I don’t remember what the army medical did to ‘cure’ me, IF I was cured?!?!
        I guess I’ve still got that “bug” in me, IF, and since, I’m NOT allowed to give blood!
        I know that’s not much help! It’s been almost 50 years since I contracted the bug, so it’s hard to remember what took place at medical that many years ago!

      3. If you still have the bug it is Vivax. But that doesn’t mean you didn’t have a dual infection (both at once).

        You can get a copy of your personnel record from the Personnel Records Center. On the record of service stations will be the record of dates and facility you were treated at. Get a copy of the inpatient record then from the Personnel Records Center. They were not involved in the fire. And there is an archived copy of your duty stations that also were not in the fire if your record was one that was involved in the fire. Very few of the records involved in the fire were totally damaged and what they have left is available.

        I was able to get a copy of the inpatient record for a veteran whose Personnel Record and Medical Record were damaged by the fire. In his health record was a very benign record of his treatment for malaria. When we actually got his inpatient record we discovered the acute phase was not recorded in the hospitalization summary. This was a common deception by the army in order to reduce discharge assessments of disability compensable items.

        I’m going to be working full time on Organic Brain Syndrome cases primarily mine for the next 6 months to a year for anyone who reads this and had a TBI or malaria while in the military. If you feel you haven’t gotten your due for disability compensation contact me at “[email protected]

        If Ben reads this maybe he’ll pick up the issue. The Statute of Limitations is from December of 2016 for Cerebral Malaria because that is when NIH demonstrated irrefutably that p. falciparum malaria causes brain damage. There is also other “deceptions” besides the bogus Kastl, etal. Study that was used in the 1998 House Committee on Veteran’s Affairs to deny cerebral malaria victims compensation.

      4. I’m in the same boat. Mine was called “Fever of unknown origin”. It manifested itself the same a malaria. Unable to give blood and cause all sort of reproductive problems for years after. Could very well be the problem I’m experiencing with my heart.

      5. @Crazy elf: If even remotely possible, I would jump on that with Lem, he knows his chit!!! You say you had Malaria, but you just don’t remember, since it was so long ago. You also are NOT ALLOWED to give blood, there must be a reason why not. I think Lem said in an earlier post, something about them intentionally altering your medical treatment, for the treatment of Malaria. I believe this in it self is a felony. Correct me if I am off my rocker Lem..

      6. @Crazy elf: After re reading what I posted, it kind of reads like I am trying to tell you what to do, I am not, nor would I ever, tell you what to do, Sorry it if it comes across that way. Certainly was not my intention.

        Later Gators.

      7. @”cj”
        Don’t worry brother! I never took it that way.
        I might just join “Lem” in that suit. Hey, it’s better knowing than NOT knowing what the Army did to me that many years ago!

  16. Thank you for covering this Ben. I’m a veteran and also works at the VA and I hear the same thing from other veterans

    1. 1.)
      What are you doing, as a VHA employee, to help veterans with the MANY problems you see, (regarding statements made by veterans)?
      Have you considered turning “whistleblower”? If not, Why not?
      I’m not trying to be rude in these questions.

      I believe the veteran is first being misdiagnosed by VHA physicians, physicians Assistants, nurses etc.! Thats where the problems start. Try getting a VHA (alleged) healthcare professional to diagnose anyone with a “War Time Injury”! Whether it be “physical or mental”, they: 1.); Just don’t know how to diagnose! Or: 2.) They are unwilling to diagnose! Or; 3.) They are being TOLD NOT to specifically diagnose war time injuries!

      For example: my PCP, (“IF” she is a real physician), is a “foreign national.” She graduated from two eastern European universities – Hungary (3 yrs) first, then Poland (4 yrs)!
      She “specializes in Family Medicine”! Which by all accounts, is NOT conducive to what a veterans medical care should be! We have (medical) injuries NOT discussed in those classes. (From what I’ve read in the universities brochures!)

      Therefore, I believe there should be additional training, 2 to 4 years minimum in military based hospitals, each medical provider should go through before he/she is allowed to practice medicine, WITHOUT supervision, at any VHA!

      If course, that would mean using “common sense” by the VA! Something they seriously lack!

      1. Your right it’s time veterans working for the va, should be outraged with what is happening and turn whistle blowers.

        If they don’t they are just as guilty of the cover ups and their oath they took means nothing.

        You know they had to take another oath when they were hired and not an oath to their supervisor.

  17. Same same for TDIU for this class of Veterans.

    Methinks it will take a disGRUNTled VA employee to come forward with the smoking memo on this and other claims issues to expose these clowns for who they really are.

    Until this coven of jerkweeds are sprayed with Roundup and sent to the unemployment office this mistreatment of veterans will continue.


  18. As long as the VA remains brazen in having likes of BVA Thomas Agent Orange Denier Murphy at the helm of the V.A. Titanic, cover-up, deny, and wait for us all to die…will continue.

    Maybe, just maybe, the USA should send each and everyone of those engorged AFGE Purple Teams on a permanent mobility exercise to Syria for a little on the job training. Make sure they are air-dropped immediately after the release of chemical agents…oh…the really important part of their mobility on the job training would be the tiny mathematical fact that ONLY 20% of them will have an actual parachute packed when air-dropped. That should be a good start at thinning the rat bastard herd.

    We can call it Operation MASH’d.

  19. Do we think VA really cares about getting it right for any and all veteran disability claims?…HELL NO you got that right BEN
    I went to that outside doctor with the bullet proof glass in his lobby ….He gave me a good C&P exam to bad the VA didn’t supply all the evidence, so who is deceiving who VA, I know your reading this SHIT. Than I get one from the VA examiner for the same thing, nothing thorough about that one, and he was a PA and that’s all he does..They do what they want…..Nothing but a bunch of con men, That’s my opinion…
    This hard head full of rocks Isn’t giving up…LOL ….No pain med’s is fucking cruel, Can’t fucking sleep.. I guess you don’t miss them until you don’t have them, and they give me ibuprofen what a joke, nothing but top quality healthcare , NOT

  20. By the way, I was in Hawaii, which was one of the worse, since all the wars that worked out of Hawaii, that water was total crap before 1986, anyone who was there is probably sick or dead now. And the British introduce TCE to us, so it was used in Dry cleaning, and weapons cleaning, If anyone remembers getting your parts dunked or weapon dunked, it meant that it went to main armory to be dunked in TCE, sent back to arms room of your company. I was a Company armorer so I remember well. So barrels of this TCE was buried on post, and leaked over the years. I also read that EPA used Calcium to clean up TCE! So what do you think it does in your body which is full of Calcium? In me it caused a process called Calcinosis, and it injuried my back, or made it weak to be injured, many had blood problems, like I did in Service, the Army Doctor said I had Hemophilia?? I went in perfectly healthy! But when TCE attacks the bones, it also makes your body not produce as many white blood cells, why? The body uses the long bones to produce white blood cells. So that means Vertebrae and femur bones. This is also why many,mostly younger people would get Leukemia, as thier body would fight the continual damage it was suffering from TCE stripping the long bones why they were trying to continue normal process of white cell production. One of the biggest cover ups in Government history! One more thing. The reason the Countries medical bills are so high is related to all the millions exposed by TCE.

    1. Timothy L Coffey, ohmy, my family & I drank that water in Pearl Harbor Hawaii for 5yrs before 1986. I was also warned never fall in the water, you’ll get 21 shots to combat the contamination. At one point I thought something WAS wrong with the housing water & I brought a sample on the ship to be tested, was told it was fine. Another lie[?]. Where the ship filters able to filter it out? In my Town our wells have been closed for years & years because one dry cleaner contaminated the water. I need to research this.

  21. My guess is that Gulf War syndrome is actually PCE and TCE exposure, I got out in March of 1990, and I know that they were still using the chemicals on weapons cleaning and motor pools, etc… So I don’t know for a Fact? But I would bet there is many similarities between Gulf War Syndrome and TCE exposure? It would make sense since the Military and VA had to be sued over Camp Lejeune, and they still have not acknowledged or made public other than Camp Lejeune that millions of Veterans have been exposed to TCE and PCE through water alone. You can read that EPA Super fund existed and that EPA was working with military to clean base water up, but mention to VA in any regards other than Camp Lejeune and there eyes will cross with disbelive, they also have made an effort to rename contamination illnesses to other more common names that have no relationship to TCE or PCE, this allowed them to ignore the huge! Problem all these years and let their issues die off never knowing. Problem that is catching up to them, is that the chemical effects the Genes through methalation or duplication, or just plain damages the DNA, and they pass it to thier children if single while in service the soldier is contaminated and passes the damage, if married and family on base they all were exposed. TCE I think also causes autism and Transgender, a problem we have seen expand over the recent years, as companies and Government expose more people all over the country. The timelines of the Chemicals introduction into society and the timelines of Transgender and autism match. Recently in Minnesota they were exposed and did a study, as expected Autism went way up! Same in Michigan. Some people die slow, like me with Sclerderma, others fast with many cancers. Many military members exposed just depends on what degree and how their
    body reacted. Just my take on it!

    1. We were exposed to a toxic soup during the Gulf War.

      The fine sand itself and breathing it in and the damage fine silica sand can cause to lungs and breathing.

      The oil smoke, and the myriad chemicals in it such as benzene. This likely was the result of many reports from veterans wives of burning semen after the war.

      Depleted Uranium, which the Pentagon claimed could be eaten like a candy bar, but would be expelled from the body quickly. They ignored any veteran breathing it in where the radiation dose would be much closer to lung tissue causing damage, cancers, chromosomal damage and ultimately birth defects. That last was found in documents from the VA through FOIA, and never released publicly. Army regulations required medical testing if exposure exceeded ONE TENTH OF A GRAM. 690,000 pounds of depleted uranium munitions were fired during the war. Nobody was tested unless they were in a “Friendly fire” incident in which the Pentagon confirmed DU was used.

      The exposures to any chemical/biological agents that were released when Saddam’s chemical weapons factories were bombed around Baghdad. The Pentagon claimed the wind was blowing the wrong way, but satellite data from NOAA shows exactly where the chemical cloud went after the bombing started in mid January 1991.

      The exposures to chemicals from the bunker blown up at Khamisiyah. This was blown after the war, with claims that it was unknown there were chemical weapons at the bunker. There was a soldier who had been there awarded the Purple Heart for being exposed to Mustard. The Pentagon, Clinton’s White House and the CIA ignored for years any reports from the soldiers who were there, until UNSCOM provided video evidence of rockets loaded with Sarin at that bunker. That video was provided to a hearing before the Presidential Advisory Committee on Gulf War Illnesses in Chicago in 1997. Within months, the CIA admitted over 120,000 were exposed…based on computer modeling that they did. US Military members had been on that UNSCOM inspection team that discovered the rockets in 1992, but NOTHING was admitted to until UNSCOM released that video.

      Clintons CIA Director, John Deutch blatantly lied on 60 Minutes about chemical or biological agents deployed to the battlefield, with many claiming after the war that Saddam could not even weaponize some of his agents. UNSCOM not only found 122mm rockets filled with Sarin, but they also found SCUD rockets filled with both chemical AND biological agents. They also found Mustard, VX and several strains of biological weapons, including Anthrax and Alflatoxin which causes liver cancer.

      We were given Anthrax shots with unknown chemical make-up. There was not enough inventory of the shots when troops were deployed, but within weeks, there was enough to give every swinging dick a shot?

      Some were given Botulism Toxin shots prior to deploying. Never approved by the FDA. Both the Botulism and Anthrax shots were never entered in our Official Shot Records.

      Endemic diseases in the Middle East caused by Sand Fly bites or other exposures.

      This doesn’t even touch on burn pits or using unleaded gasoline in tent heaters while there, or the NAPP pills taken by many…the Nerve Agent Pre-Treatment Pills.

      To date, the VA has only shown a study that the closest one was to the bunker at Khamisiyah when it was blown up, the worse their illnesses are. Most are dead by now.

      TCE would have been the least of our worries.

      1. 91 Vet, we are a dying breed. Mortality rate for Shield/Storm vets is much higher than as compared to Vietnam, Korea and WW2. Coverups abound with this illness, from big oil, you’re welcome for saving your bottom line, big pharma, you’re welcome for using us as test subjects to test vaccines and pills on, chemical companies, yes, your nerve agents do work, and the industrial military complex, yes there are still young men and women who still buy into the rah, rah, apple pie and do it for mom fucking bullshit you drilled into us at such a young age.

        I’m in the third year of my appeal, Philidelphia RO just last week sent my packet to the BVA. This was after my form 9 was filed three years ago. I’ve been fighting these goatfucks 1st in 1995, of course getting my claim denied. Filed again in 2011, still fighting.

        As always………FUCK-OFF VA

      2. Warhorse, PA VAROs seem to be very dysfunctional. My appeal was held for 3 years before I finally got an attorney by the Pittsburg VARO DRO and another 4 years after I got the attorney. Nothing was ever done by the Pittsburg DRO and my attorney couldn’t even get a copy of my file because I was listed as a “sensitivity 7” and the sensitivity 7 officer who was the only one who could look at my file wouldn’t respond in any way to my attorney or me.

        I finally moved and got my file transferred to Cheyenne, WY VARO. We were then able, with congressional help to get a CD and a hard copy of my file. The CD was about 1500 pages short of the hard copy and apparently the DRO in Pittsburg kept most of the most relevant pages to my appeal. Fortunately I found a file that had duplicate pages that I had left behind when I was at my brothers. My primary file was left at my son’s and got turned into paper machete when the tote box filled with water during a flood.

        Time for you to get an attorney and congressional help.

      3. Lem, I did secure an attorney 3 years ago. Unfortunately the Philly RO I believe has misfiled claims, destroyed claims and appeals all the while being at the forefront of the Reuben’s “bull dike” scandle. As far as congressional or help from a senator, Sen. Casey is fucking worthless, he’s still weeping over Killarys loss. My congressmen is Lou Barletta, a republican, again, fucking worthless.

      4. Ask your attorney where you should go to get better representation from Congress and a responsive VARO. Hopefully he has some experience other than just your area.

        I just happened to go home to Wyoming and thus got my file out of the hands of Pennsylvania politics. As in Screw the veterans.

      5. Don’t expect your VSO representative to be much help unless you clearly have one that helps by writing your congressman for assistance. Mostly they knuckle to the VARO director in order to keep their pay check coming.

      6. Correct on all warhorse. As I commented here before, the VA denied mine for almost 7 years until I testified before congress.

        After that, they approved it in a week.

        It had already been denied 3 times.

    2. Timothy L Coffey….they pass it to their children, And their wife, You are absolutely right, Their is a certain type of blood test or a bone biopsy they do to find it,Agent orange also…I’m going to find out what it is. My neighbors friend’s wife had it done at the VA before he died. I bet that test would find all the chemical exposures….And the VA rat’s know about it..Who’s deceiving who VA… AND WHEN I FIND OUT WHAT IT’S CALLED, IT’S GOING FAR AND WIDE…

  22. Denying 80% of Gulf War Illness claims comes as no surprise to me at all.

    It is high time for some real leadership at the VA. Leadership that speaks truth publicly about how bad things have really gotten. Leadership that develops solutions to take better of ALL of our nations warriors. Leadership that recognizes that if they are doing a good job – – – it will be the veterans singing their praises rather than them having the need for a PR Agency to put out “Fluff Pieces” to mislead America.

    Current VA leadership has hearts the size of mice and their John Henry Thomas not much bigger. It is about TEN YEARS PAST TIME TO FIX THE DAMN BROKEN VA:

    1. Recognize the problems inherent in the VA are SYSTEM-WIDE, not just limited to a few locations.

    2. Fire all the Lazy No Good Workers. Fire EVERY single AFGE/SES Employee.

    3. Sell off all the VA facilities. Alternatively, they may be converted into housing for homeless veterans.

    4. Issue all veterans a card that allows them to choose their own doctors within their community that they can TRUST.

    5. The United States Government will PAY those doctors promptly (Within 45 days) for the care they provide veterans.

    6. ELIMINATE the “Federal Protection” Umbrella for incompetent QUACKS that the VA sends to other states to practice other than their own. Going to practice in Hawaii? You need to be LICENSED in Hawaii. Same applies to all other states.

    7. Any claim a veteran submits to the VBA that requires more than 90 days to adjudicate, is automatically found to be in favor of the veteran. If a VBA claim filed by a veteran is found to be a false one designed to scam the system, the VA will have to prove in civil court that a false claim was intentionally submitted.

    8. All veterans will be allowed to seek/retain the services of a Veterans Rights Attorney from their first initial contact with the VA.

    9. No AFGE, nor any other Labor Union business will be allowed to take place in any Federal Workplace. Conducting Union Business during working hours will be STRICTLY PROHIBITED, and will be STRICTLY ENFORCED. Should any government employee be found violating this provision, it will result in IMMEDIATE LIFETIME DISMISSAL FROM ANY/ALL GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYMENT.

    10. Attorneys for appeal will be retained at the former employee’s PERSONAL expense. U. S. Taxpayer’s will not be subject to payment of legal bills for incompetent or dishonest personnel with regards to Governmental Employment.

    You have my contact information Mr. Secretary. Call me anytime. I have a lot of ideas to help you improve the services provided to my fellow veterans. And I will not hesitate to speak up at all.

    For my fellow veterans who have been ill-served by this CLUSTERFUCK of a train wreck called the VA over the years:

    Our battles overseas were far less stressful than our war here at home. Never Cruel or cowardly. Never Give Up. Never Give In. We are on the Righteous path.

    POTUS Reagan broke up PATCO in the ’80’s. Time for POTUS Trump to break up the AFGE. Most of our current Congress Critters do NOT have Veterans Interests at heart. Perhaps their replacements will. VOTE OUT all these WORTHLESS INCUMBENTS.

    Give their replacement’s one term to take care of Veterans who put aside their own personal lives to answer this nation’s call when she needed them. And the many of those Veterans who suffer daily for doing what most of their countrymen had not the STONES TO DO.

    If they cannot MUSTER THE STONES to do it properly – – – vote their worthless asses out as well. Party should NOT MATTER. What SHOULD MATTER is their VOTING RECORDS ON VETERANS ISSUES.

    NO Combat Veteran should be surprised when the next McVeigh or Congressional Baseball Team Incident occurs. Bound to happen. Just a matter of time . . .

    We have now reached the next accelerative phase of our country falling apart. Country before Party. Principles before Personalities. Always.

    Want to REALLY fix the VA? The next SecVA needs to be a former Enlisted Man with a few serious axes to grind against the VA and the AFGE. Apparently, Former Flag Officers and Shithead Civvies can’t cut the mustard . . .

    Maybe a SINCERELY MOTIVATED Gunnery Sergeant or Chief Petty Officer CAN.

    Disgruntled Veteran
    1973 – 1976 USMC
    1978 – 1993 USN
    Wounded Warrior
    Honolulu, Hawaii

  23. To add to my comment above…the problem with the VA not being able to diagnose an illness until after Congress passed that law was that many veterans believed their illness may NOT be service connected, simply because the worthless VA always told us Gulf War vets that we were the only ones reporting it.

    When we finally compared notes, many vets found out how prevalent certain conditions were in our population.

    Also, the legislation for service connecting undiagnosed illnesses also mandated creation of the Research Advisory Committee. This was supposed to be an independent committee advising VA on what research or treatment was needed. The VA ignored that part of the law for years, until veterans forced them to create the committee.

    I believe it was Gingrich who ultimately sabotaged the RAC by changing their charter.

    Gingrich is a bastard and should burn in hell for how many Gulf War vets he consigned to death without any help from the VA.

  24. Thank you for covering this Ben. Will Farrisee be fired? That question depends on who thinks veterans are given too much already. If certain fuckstix in Congress get their way, Farrisee will continue warming a chair.

    She is similar to Kelly Ann Brix who years after we returned home, was still pushing the bullshit narrative that all of our health problems were just PTSD.

    The problem here with Gulf War Illness claims is that VERY FEW employees in the VA have any fucking clue whatsoever of what the law is. There may be specific laws passed by Congress service connecting specific medical conditions that are prevalent among Gulf War veterans, but the VA does not provide any training that I can see that tells their doctors or C&P examiners what the law actually is.

    I cannot imagine the number of claims that are appealed because the C&P examiner, the rater or someone else in the claims process doesn’t have the first damn clue about what is considered service connected.

    It took VA data leaked from the VA before they finally presumed service connected any GW Vets diagnosed with ALS.

    ALS occurs in 1 in 500,000 in the general population. Of roughly 700,000 vets deployed to the Gulf War, leaked VA data showed 127 vets diagnosed with ALS. The VA fucked those vets around long enough for them to die of ALS while their claims were still pending.

    If we had House or Senate VA committee oversight that gave a shit, they would demand specific training on the laws they pass be mandated and training be proven that it was completed.

    This reminds me of fighting the VA for years. For years they claimed they could not diagnose our illnesses, and finally around 1999, we managed to get congress to pass legislation mandating undiagnosed illnesses should be service connected. Magically, overnight, many veterans suddenly had a diagnosis, no matter how fucking frivolous it might be, no matter that ZERO medical evidence existed to back up the diagnosis, if a Gulf War veteran who had been told for years the VA could not figure out what the fuck was wrong….if that veteran suddenly had a diagnosis, their claim was not allowed under the law.

    It was one of the more disgusting things I ever saw the VA do under Secretary Jesse Browns management.

    Will things change? Not a fucking chance with the worthless bastards we have as the Senate and House VA Committee chairs.

    Change will only come if the White House and Trump become embarrassed by news reports of this, and the White House tells Congress to get their damn act together.

    1. Lol “fuckstix” Good one!!!! Adding that one to my catalog with “Tuna bag” The Persian Gulf has been tainted since Iran and Iraq were fighting. There was a big exposure near the Shatt el- arab waterway when the kurds were gassed. aka “Death River”. Farsi Island was and still is a hot spot I suspect. I wish I could have had access to test the waters we sampled back in the day with today’s technology. The Herc and Wimbrown 7 was limited for mobile Sea bases.

      1. Old leather, the Air Force had multiple air sampling stations in and around Kuwait or northern Saudi at the time of the war. I don’t recall how I found out about them, but I FOIA’d the data.

        It was shocking what they were finding with their samplers, but never admitted to or told the troops deployed.

        I imagine because it might piss off the Kuwaitis, particularly after so much DU was released from the Camp Doha fire. It burned for 3 days, and much of that burned DU went south over Kuwait City.

        The reports I received through FOIA said they had foreign nationals with surgical masks cleaning up the mess.

      2. It’s plain murder with greed, and lies!…Them fucks calling the kettle black need to look in the mirror,just plain evil…All part of the agenda though, they want us all dead, And I don’t mean just the VET’S, And for the people that think I’m crazy quit watching that black box in your living room, You might figure it out eventually, Not that computer screens are any better..LOL They don’t call it a plasma TV for nothing

      3. And the next big one is, IRAN we have them surrounded already, Besides it’s on their list, North Korea is just a little diversion…. Population reduction at it’s best…LOL

      4. OddMarine: This will be the Security/military industrial complex’s biggest dilemma going forward. Gulf War Vets and Iraq/Afghan Vets are figuring out that the missions had less to do with our collective security and more to do with money and the perpetual war machine. Between TBI, chemicals, field PTSD and/or moral injury, the numbers who can and should apply for benefits becomes staggering. Of course, like AO, a whole lot of that shit falls into the gray zone for the benefit of those charged with diagnostics – the VA. Absent a perfectly timed economic crisis in America – likely triggered by some false flag op, recruiting for yet another NWO conquest is going to become difficult.

        It’s too bad Veterans cannot unite with a single voice and shut down recruiting. Men go to war as patriots and often end up fighting for each other – the brotherhood –
        rather than for any morally legitimate struggle. Still – it’s hard to take the patriot out of the soldier. It helps men rationalize a consequent lifetime of physical and mental anguish.

        Semper Diddleus

      5. Wingshear….“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control. Do I mean a conspiracy? Yes, I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, incredibly evil in intent.”
        –Rep. Larry P. MacDonald, killed in Korean Air Lines 007, 1983

        I think that his [Obama’s] task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period, when really a New World Order can be created.”
        —Henry Kissinger, CNBC 2008

        “In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”
        —Strobe Talbot, Deputy Secretary of State, TIME, July l992

        “Lucifer comes to give us the final … Luciferic initiation … that many people now and in the days ahead, will be facing—for it is an initiation into the New Age. … No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian initiation.”
        –Source: “Reflections on the Christ,” by David Spangler, on the Board of Directors of Planetary Citizens, United Nations; quoted in Unicorn in the Sanctuary, by Randy England, 1978.
        ALSO: From Reimagination of the World, David Spangler/William Thompson, p. 133.

        Spangler says that ‘Lucifer comes to give us the final .. Luciferic initiation .. it is the initiation into the New Age’. He also says that ‘Christ is the same force as Lucifer … Lucifer prepares man for the experience of christhood …. Lucifer works within each one of us to bring us to wholeness as we move into the New Age’. 66 Spangler teaches that Lucifer is ‘an agent of God’s love’. 67 He believes that Lucifer is the angel of man’s inner evolution, that ‘the light that reveals to us the path to Christ comes from Lucifer…the great initiator . Lucifer comes to give us the final initiation that many people in the days ahead will be facing, for it is an initiation into the New Age’ (ibid.).

        This slight change in wording has enabled Spangler and his supporters to deny that he said the quote more popularly attributed to him. While the idea is the same, the exact wording is not. Thanks go to dok, prisonplanetforums for the original research on this sourcing.]

        “Undersecretary of State Sumner Welles tonight called for the early creation of an international organization of anti-Axis nations to control the world during the period between the armistice at the end of the present war and the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis.”
        —Philadelphia Inquirer, June 1942

        It’s A BIG CLUB,and I DON’T want to be in it…so sharpen up the guillotine, mother fucker’s…I’m ready to get out of this HELL HOLE

      6. Windmill.. “One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order.”
        –K.M. Heaton, National Educator

        “We have before us the opportunity to forge, for ourselves and for future generations, a New World Order. A world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, rules all nations. When we are successful–and we will be–we have a real chance at this New World Order. An order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping forces to fulfill the promise and vision of its founders.”
        —George H.W. Bush, March 21, 1991

        “Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government – a bureaucratic elite.”
        –Senator William Jenner, 1954

        “We must believe that it is the darkest before the dawn of a beautiful new world. We will see it when we believe it.”
        —Saul Alinsky, author, Rules for Radicals [mentor of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama]

        “The people will be crushed under the burden of taxes, loan after loan will be floated; after having drained the present, the State will devour the future.”
        —Fredric Bastiat

      7. OiledMarinara,

        As if I don’t have enough fucking demons, you gotta bring up the Luciferian shit again. I was perfectly happy with being paranoid about the NWO, comfortable with my Jewluminaziburg conspirators and Creatures from Jekyll Island. I was happy in my own belief that Alex Jones and PP is a counter-op, intended to taint rational conspiracy with that which is closer to the edge. Butt no – here comes Lucifer with his barbed schwanzstucke. Butt – I’m curious – are those who don’t accept Lucifer the only ones who get probed, or does everyone get the Schtupf? Butt Osiriously folks, we have so much to look forward to.

        First you get down on your knees
        fiddle with your rosaries
        bow your head with great respect
        then – genuflect, genuflect genuflect.

        Do whatever step you want if,
        You have cleared it with the Pontiff
        Everyone say his own Kyrie eleison
        Doin the Vatican
        Sort of ecstatic I’m
        Doin the Vatican Raaaaag

      8. Wingflap….. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields
        (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government,

        (2) Population and reproduction control,

        (3) The environment and man’s relationship to nature, and

        (4) Spirituality.

        In the public library in Elberton, I found a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I discovered that the monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.


        1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature….[worldwide]

        The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields:

        (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government,

        (2) Population and reproduction control,

        (3) The environment and man’s relationship to nature, and

        (4) Spirituality.

        In the public library in Elberton, I found a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I discovered that the monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.


        1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

        Think your in the 500,000,000 think again………church is a satanic ritual

        I’m curious – are those who don’t accept Lucifer the only ones who get probed, NO just go to your local church they can do the probing part too…..LOL

    2. CONGRESS ARE WORTHLESS SEWAGE RATS THEY WILL SCAM ALL VETS BY PLAYING A DOG @ PONY SHOW HOLY SHIT BATMAN VETS SCREWED AGIN @ AGIN @ AGIN THE NEVER ENDING STORY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1. VETS A LEGAL FACT VA DC HQ WILL SHIT ON YOUR PARADE EVERY TIME VETS SCREWED AGIN@ AGIN QUESTION IS VA DC HQ SANTANIC @ DEMONIC THIS IS A METAPHISICAL QUESTION ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? VA DC HQ ONE BIG INSANE HOUSE @ THE NUTS RUN THE INSANE HOUSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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