Obama, Republicans Seek $23 Billion Disability Pay Cut

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Benjamin KrauseRepublicans have attempted to cut veterans compensation and other disability benefits 3 times this year. First, Michelle Bachmann (MN) suggested disabled veterans had it too good. She thought disability pay should be reduced by $4 billion. Later, Paul Ryan (WI) suggestion gutting VA Healthcare by $6 billion, which would have cut 1.3 million veterans out of the program.

Now, aligned with the President, Republicans are again attempting to cut veterans benefits. This time, they want to cut $23 billion over 10 years, dwarfing the initial cuts proposed earlier this year.

Last week, the Congressional Republicans and President Obama warned that if a new debt ceiling is not reached, veterans’ pay and Social Security pay would be threatened. In addition, President Obama and Republicans also proposed a new inflation index. The index would cut disability pay by $23 billion over 10 years.

Currently, the traditional Consumer Price Index (CPI) is said to increase with the rate of inflation. The new chained CPI is said to reduce payments during economic downturns to reflect spending during that period.

The theory rests on the assumption that consumers buy cheaper goods during hard times. Instead of buying Heinz 57, maybe you buy Generic Catsup. Since the consumer spends less money, they need less money. Therefore, if the consumer needs less money, then the amount of money they receive from Social Security of Veterans Disability should be less.

The govenrment is mainly looking to increase “savings” and “revenue.” However, it seems the media allows government to point to the poor for sacrifices while continuing to pay out large amounts of dollars in tax benefits to the “job creators.” Ironically, there are no jobs despite large payouts and tax incentives for companies like GE, Textron and friends. Yes Mr. Obama, where are those shovel ready jobs?

Sadly, our country always seems to look at the downtrodden and disadvantaged to make the most sacrifices during hard times. Disabled veterans were asked to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of every American. All the while, political marienettes at the behest of their puppet masters continually turn to this group to sacrifice even more.

Meanwhile, Republicans like Michelle Bachmann and Paul Ryan want “job creators” to pay no taxes at all. Is this not the most insane bunch of politicians yet?

Paradoxically, Bachmann was a federal tax lawyer and considers herself to be a job creator. So, while taxing the hell out of the little guy, small businesses and middle class people, she helped wealthy Americans create jobs like McDonalds burger flipper and Walmart cashier.

Congressional Budget Office: “Using a Different Measure of Inflation for Indexing Federal Programs and the Tax Code.” Pg. 5.

NY Times: “Democrats Oppose Talk of Cuts to Social Security”

 

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shanna
shanna

This whole thing really ticks me off! how can they think “vet have it to good”! my husband was attacked and almost killed for this country and now has suffered from ptsd for the past 7 years! is that really having it to good! If they cut these benifits are family of six will lose our home! is that having it to good! Really get a life people! How about you stop handing out the money to other countries and start helping ours!

VannWilson
VannWilson

NEED TO START CUTTIND POLITICANS HEADS OFF
 

j. m. garr
j. m. garr

If you only have a dollar and Heinz 57 costs 1.25 you know very well you’ll get what is cheaper so you can pay your bills and be able to servive on what the goverment gives a vet .at times I feel sorry for the people we elect into office ,they seem to forget where they came from,we as vets didn’t choose to get to where we are now ,but political people forget that if it were not for us ,YOU wouldn’t be where you are now.that leather chair must feel better then my milk carton that I sit on to have my meals,ENJOY YOUR LOBSTER Diner it’s on us the tax payers that pay your wages…….

R. Vedet
R. Vedet

When a person agrees and commits him or herself to serve this great Nation’s armed forces, they are giving and oath to protect it with a “Blank Check” given to the nation, the amount being up to including giving up your life for your country. They are OWED these so called “Entitlements!”Part of the modest promise to those who serve with honorable conditions and who were willing to potentially give their life to this country, is Medical care if you need it. Putting Vet benefits on the table for reduction is Disgusting. What is even more sickening is the politicians who never served a day want to continue to give tax cuts to corporations that outsource jobs . They call many of these corporations “Job Creators” . Yes they DO create jobs but NOT in this country. They will continue to enjoy govt. support while Veterans benefits are being cut. Make it simple, NO reduction in vet benefits period! Those who support them need to be voted out of Office.

mathew, us navy seabee vet
mathew, us navy seabee vet

At 18, I signed a promise to defend my fellow Americans, and country from ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. I was disabled keeping this promise to my country, and earned my honorable discharge. It took ten years for my country to acknowledge my disability. It now seems that Americans only enemy is our very own government. Tax the blue-collar working class, and liberate the wealthy from any responsibility to the country they call home. 10% tax should mean just that, whether u make a dollar, or ten million dollars. If government officials can’t perform the job they are hired to do within reason, IT’S TIME TO GO. We as Americans need to stand up against this kind of tyranny. If they wanna cut spending, why don’t they take the first pay cuts? Lead by example or get to the back of the line!

Jason
Jason

Senators from Wi & Mn take a huge kiss at my nuts. You phony SOBs you are the ones overpaid! Why don’t we cut politician pay by 230 BILLION, you’d still be overpaid. Leave US Vets alone, we paid in sweat and blood for what we get, and it still is not enough you fools. You pricks have a woman politician get shot, all over the news, how many vets have been lost in the last 5 years????? Where’s their tribute???? Wis and Minn, get rid of these fools!!!!!!!!!!

VET1
VET1

Throw Obama out as well as the rest of the crooked politicians out for a buck. If you didnt serve then be served with a notice of resignation for even contiplating the thought of va benefit slashing for those that have served. Shame on you and teh ranch you grew up on. This country is terrible for imposing such threat to our real heroes.

Mike
Mike

When I hear that cuts to any vets arise, It sickens me to the core, Veterans make this country what it is, not those clowns up in DC. I hear about people that collect Social Security that have only lived in this country a few years. You shouldn’t be able to collect anything unless you were born here or fought for this country. I guarantee that if you were to go to another country and live there for a while and try to get benefits, they would laugh at you. Other countries laugh at us, they think we are push overs. It is time to re think America and begin to build on what we know is the right thing to do.

Steve Nomad
Steve Nomad

First off, Michelle Bachmann never made that comment – it is made up by the author because the bill she supports has cuts and he has an agenda. Did you ever notice that these articles written by liberal school graduates always leave out the Democrats? Who gave us concurrent pay? It sure wasn’t a bunch of jackasses.

As for taxing the little guy – we are heading toward 50% of Americans not paying any taxes at all so how are they being trod upon? Anyone earning over $379K is paying upward of 35% taxes and no matter how many tax shelters you think may be out there they are not going to get wealthy individuals out of paying a truckload of money to an out-of-control government not concerned with Vets but with Labor Unions and Europe.

What the Politicians need to remember is what every Vet knows. The government cannot create it can only destroy. That is why our military is so good – we can tear up anything. American was created to be one footstep from anarchy; so pay us for our service, treat our injuries and otherwise stay the heck out of our way.

Tim
Tim

What a bunch of hypocrites in Congress, one minute you support our servicemen and women then turn around kick us to the ground. It’s all about your rich buddy’s see how we can support them. I bet if those rich sob’s lives were threatened by an enemy from another country they would be begging for protection. So why serve then if you get hurt in battle or while on active duty what are they going to do for you? Time to vote them out….oops we never voted them in in the first place!

Aja USMC VET OIF
Aja USMC VET OIF

I agree with you Mathew, I spent too much time on the lines to deal with their bullshit….Focus Americans…Obama can’t take the chance of bringing down the world economy. NO AMERICAN CITIZEN WILL PUT UP WITH HIS LYING AND THREATS! Soldiers will not put up with ‘not getting paid’, especially now a days when there is NO TRUST in the war. No American citizen will put up with their disability check being delayed or taken away. There are NO JOBS, the economy is in jeopardy, and now there are THREATS about what we have worked our whole lives for? This will come to a head and it will ‘threaten’ Obama’s mouth and life. He is trying to come out of this smelling like a rose because if he does not get his way, he can say he fought for the economy. Now does that sound real? 
WE AS AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS TYPE OF FEAR MONGERING. Can you just imagine if the National Guard ‘tried’ to control a mob and weren’t getting paid? What do you think the police force will do when American’s are up in arms? There is a reality here and America has control, not the president.

Obama wants to take away my Va disability check as part of his cuts in govt spending ….Then I see his wife in a commercial to help veterans and their families it makes me fucking sick to my stomach I want to go puke up all the lies they’re feeding me and the rest of the country….STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOURSELVES AMERICA FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM BACK….

WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEARS THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE FREEDOM; WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR THE GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE TYRANNY! END THE TYRANNY AMERICA!

FELLOW SOLDIERS I KNOW WE HAVE FOUGHT MORE BATTLES THAN WE CARE TO HAVE SEEN OR ADMIT AND THR BIGGEST BATTLE WE FACE IS THIS! WE MUST BAND TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THING THAT AMERICA SHOULD RECLAIM AND THAT IS DIGNITY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN THE MILITARY! I KNOW SOME MAY HAVE BUT ONE LAST BATTLE IN THEM BUT AMERICANS AND SOLDIERS WE CANNOT TOLERATE THEIR LIES ANY MORE! WE MUST PROVE THEM WRONG AND STAND TOGETHER!

OBAMA THINKS WE ARE WEAKER WHEN WE HAVE NOTHING, PROVE TO HIM WE ARE NOT WEAK WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING WORTH FIGHTING FOR!

Chris
Chris

This is so wrong. In fact, we have a man at the WI State Capitol about to starve himself to DEATH over this issue. He, Hallis Mailen, is a vet (easy to find when you goolge ‘hunger strike Madison veterans’) . The President is not responding to his simple demands to meet with him or even to acknowledge his concerns. As he told me personally, if he is not heard, there will be a dead body on their doorsteps.

Bill Starcher
Bill Starcher

When you join the military, you think you are serving the better good. In fact, all veterans serve are self serving politicians who are only looking for the mass votes of mindless people. These politicians threaten to take away benefits from the elderly, the disabled, and the children born in this country. The country has no problem giving benefits to illegals while at the same time taking away benefits of our grandparents. People who serve in congress should do it for no pay or benefits since all of them are multi-millionaires already. And why does the working class support most of the taxes in this country. Take 50 percent of the top ten percent wage earners in this country. A person making 20 million a year should be able to live off of 10 million just fine. STOP taking money from the less fortunate and let people on the top fund the country. Revolutions have occured over much less of reasons. Lets stop this endless goverment trap of oppression of the masses for the preservation of the rich. When I look at this country, I see a government selling freedom to the highest bidder. The poor are in slavery to the rich. WAKE UP, there is no freedom in America unless you have the dollars to be so. Nobody will read this anyway, this is just a site to let free thinkers voice an unheard position. The country is in freefall and has convinced everyone that everything is just fine. Just pay your taxes!

Mary
Mary

I can only say; I am saddened and shame on Bachmann saying disabled vets have it too good? Well, I suppose she wasn’t walking through the rice fields; with things crawling into her underwear. All the while this was going on, bombs flew by; leaving a “dust” in it’s wake that went into the lungs, onto the skin and the brains of the brave service members who were drafted and did not run away. (i am not passing judgement on those who chose a different path). Maybe she has not seen the Hurt Locker, or visited enough of the vets now returning, who had their brains scrambled by these; I want to say IUD’s but that is not right – anyway is it their fault that this happened to them as a casualty of war? Not only that, we Americans sat at our dinner tables watching the news clips of this crap going on. (during Viet Nam). The most recent engagements are less visible. The discussions in my home were heated but I was raised by parents who believed service and action; speaks louder than words. I just hope that if it comes to the 7 and 8 category of Vets get thrown off; that the VA takes the time to wean those vets off meds, that if stopped abruptly; could kill them, or throw them into seizures requiring hospitalization on a ventilator? I am not sure why I am writing this, because I did not serve in country; but did serve proudly during the Viet Nam war; hence am considered Viet Nam Era vet. I lost a very good friend from Agent Orange. He died right before the government acknowledged it. I recently lost my job and could not afford to pay medical premiums,. and have used the VA for two years and I feel so guilty, but the alternative is not something I want to face without treatment. Hey, for all you disabled vets who have it too good, have a show and tell with Bachman and let her see first hand what is still under your skin, in your legs, or left a scar on your emotions that will not go away. Always remember; you did fight the fight; at the time followed what your government had you do when your number came up. What is wonderful is that those Vietnam Vets who served in country, are actually giving of their time to help these young kids coming back today. I am glad that I knew at 17, that what was being done and said to Vietnam Vets had no room in my beliefs of my country. I am not sure what the answer is but I will say this, Ms. Bachmann wants to govern our country and trample over more human beings and their service; I think not. PS This is really caddy but I wonder if Ms Bachmann realizes the suffering and disabling conditions the animals are left in, when they are used to prove that the makeup; mascara, etc, she is wearing have it too good? I suppose human suffering is a part of life, but to speak so disrespectful; shame shame shame. I believe an apology is in order.

scott
scott

You shouldnt be asshamed to use the VA hospitals if you are in need or if due to war time disabilities you need them, thats what the VA is for. I never feel guilty using the VA I sold health insurance untill obamacare pretty much killed the market out of the 23 companies i represented due to my injuries sustained in combat I was considered uninsurable and the programs i did qualify for such as group coverage or discount plans wouldnt pay for my pre exisiting conditions or were over $600. yes i made good money however I wasnt about to pay for my own when uncle sam is the reason I am like that. I was shot twice on 2 seperate tours to Iraq and I was a volunteer and enlisted b4 the war however i didnt sign up for the medical bills i have that i got for serving my country. and cut the VA benifits like I said I took 2 rounds on 2 seperate occassions and 30% disability for not being able to lift over 20lbs and bearly any use from nerve damage to my primary arm I dont think I have it to good.

dj webb
dj webb

MICHELLE BACHMAN YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO LIFE…THE PLANET EARTH…AND A TERRIBLE EMBARASSMENT BEFORE THIS NATION.,YOU WOULD NOT BE WHERE YOU ARE TODAY IF IT WERE NOT FOR MYSELF AND MANY OTHER VETERANS WHO PUT UP THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE UP FOR THIS COUNTRY…!YOU IDIOT…!PEY LAMED HEY TO YOUR ENTIRETY AND ON EVERY THING U DESIRE AND LOVE…!

Joanne
Joanne

Where the hell was Bachman when she was 18? College? I joined the Army.

These politicians are so far removed from the rest of us. They all rah-rah around the vets throwing condescending at-a-boys/girls at those serving. “Great Americans,” are those who have served. Are they willing to give up any of their “perks”? Has a single politician said anything about “austerity” for themselves? No. Obama and his clan flip around the country … go on these vacations that the average American wouldn’t be able to afford … members in the Senate and Congress go to other countries … for what?

They dump money all over the world … and yes … someone mentioned above don’t talk about taking a dime away from the illegals … not the welfare recipients who have made welfare a life long career. No. They talk about taking a barely liveable wage away from vets injured – in many different ways – while they were in service from their country. If anything, the whole of Washington and state & local governments should be stripped of benefits. Congress sure as hell doesn’t deserve a full pension after serving only two years. That’s something that should be looked at. Why does a Congressman/woman get a full ride for just 2 years of work, are not required to dump a portion of their income into Social Security, then receive a full pension (nothing that any disabled vet will see — ever!!) full medical, etc…. etc ….?

I’m gonna say it again. They’re treating the vet like we’re the problem. We’re the ones sucking at the federal trough. We’re just an easy mark. They probably figure that the illegals and welfare recips have more political clout than vets. Hurt the vet … who cares. They use us and the serving military as good PR. They are nauseating. I still think a requirement should be that if anyone serves in a public office, they should’ve served their country first.

Asel Wood
Asel Wood

Both political parties are freaking bold-faced liars who had promised to leave veterans benefits alone. Now they have to make cut in order to ensure a better living for illegal immigrants, foreign blacks, and the welfare class who keep producing children out of wedlock for everyone else to support.

I suggest cutting welfare, all aide to illegal’s, and billions that are sent to Agrica for ignorant people to squander and to get rich off of U.S. tax payers. No, blacks have to have their demands met and that’s the bottom line. CUts from white male vets have already been underway at VA Hospitals and disability benefits as they are handed out to racist blacks.

Asel Wood
Asel Wood

Call your democrat and republican officials and let them know that you’re going to cut your votes for them since they worthless. They would rather spend $ 3,000,000.00 each year studying cows passing gas. How about billions being sent to African countries to educate blacks on how to clean their penis before sex. Wow, what good will that do if their sex partners have A.I.D.’s? Apparently they were to freaking stupid to use condoms that U.S. tax payers sent over. Oh, over 13 billion tax $$$$$$$$$$$$$’s are spent each year to support illegal immigrants who also take jobs from veterans. Don’t want to cut them since they’re a growing voter source for the crooks and cons in Washington.

Illegal’s receive freemedical, dental, housing, food stamps, access to jobs, college tuition paid for and they cost tax payers billions in crime. They get free housing and citizens who do have health insurance cannot get care in many emergency rooms at regular hospitals due to illegal’s storming emergency rooms for free care. I waih all of congress and the senate would gather and committ mass suicide. Good riddens!

Sondra Cornwell
Sondra Cornwell

I think it’s time we all come together, as a peaceful yet firm, group of people and go after all of the benefits that we pay for out of our pockets for the people we elect & won’t elect again. Why should we suffer while they have premium healthcare, retirement and are able to vote themselves raises?!!!!!!! This is not like a Democracy that we live in, it is more like a dictatorship. We are like puppets on a string having no control over what happens while oue Representatives & Senators decide how we are going to live. Now is the time to take control back. Take their benefits away. Take their ability to vote themselves raises away, that should be up to the American people!!!!! If you are at all concerned with the way our country is run than you need to do some thing & do it now before our time runs out!!!! I am willing to do whatever it takes to get this done but I don’t know where to start or who to contact. Help Please!

Diana
Diana

When they say the won’t touch benefits now, they already have by freezing their pay the last two years … VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!

Sondra Cornwell
Sondra Cornwell

I forgot to add one other comment. We need to have some kind of term limits on our federal government elected officials, just like the president. Four years is long enough for all of them!!!

Gulf War I &II Somalia Kosovo Cold War
Gulf War I &II Somalia Kosovo Cold War

And the media effectively keeps this particular congressonal issue out of the limelight by making it look like congress is attacking some poor old worthless veterans for being lazy. And thats not news worthy. Congress is always attacking veterans benifits when there is hardly a Veteran present to make some kind of a stand against these apparently rough congresspersons. Only elect those who talk about recuding congresses life time benefit, and this for just two years of service and this was appartently voted on behind our backs to begin with.

Will
Will

When I served back in ’60s Cold War years, we knew who our enemies where and where to find them. They were the Socialist in the Soviet Union and Red China as well as Castro’s Cuba. We defended our country and kept the Socialist out. Now, today we have them living in the White House and in the halls of Congress. Just like Castro deceived the Cubans in order to take control of Cuba in ’59, Obama and the Democrates have done and are doing the same to us, lieing through their teeth. They, the Dems, could care less that polls had shown that less than 40% of Americans wanted “Obama Care”. But they passed it anyway because they controlled the White House, the Senate and the House of Reps. Now they’ll fund it by taking funds from our Veterans programs. They are a threat to the America I was raised in and defended.

mdesp
mdesp

I see another “American Revolution” Part 2 coming up. DHS placed vets on the domestic terrorist list and if you mess with too many vets on their right to benefits and cut their livelihood out by threatening them. This govt will see great problem with its vets getting together to get rid of these politicians one way or another.

Michael
Michael

OK this is enough.. I’m a disabled veteran of OEF/OIF how do these appointed personnal. Get to judge disabled veterans and say we have it good??????? Look at the past you f——- idiots and learn a leason from the past.. Do you remember the past and all the veterans that came back and didn’t get the benefits that they earned.. While you all sat in a class room and took it easy.. Check the history and look and what happened. How dare you say We have it made..I have lost almost everything I have worked all my life for………… And you want to take for from us and family thanks alot…

RGL
RGL

You are forgetting that you are dealing with the scum of the earth politicians. If you combined all their IQs you might come up with one. They only says what is convenient at the time. The majority of the ones calling for the cuts were NEVER in the military and if they were they pushed a pencil. All the people that ever served this country should be ashamed of the current group of LOSERS that we have in Washington.

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