Obama, Republicans Seek $23 Billion Disability Pay Cut
Republicans have attempted to cut veterans compensation and other disability benefits 3 times this year. First, Michelle Bachmann (MN) suggested disabled veterans had it too good. She thought disability pay should be reduced by $4 billion. Later, Paul Ryan (WI) suggestion gutting VA Healthcare by $6 billion, which would have cut 1.3 million veterans out of the program.
Now, aligned with the President, Republicans are again attempting to cut veterans benefits. This time, they want to cut $23 billion over 10 years, dwarfing the initial cuts proposed earlier this year.
Last week, the Congressional Republicans and President Obama warned that if a new debt ceiling is not reached, veterans’ pay and Social Security pay would be threatened. In addition, President Obama and Republicans also proposed a new inflation index. The index would cut disability pay by $23 billion over 10 years.
Currently, the traditional Consumer Price Index (CPI) is said to increase with the rate of inflation. The new chained CPI is said to reduce payments during economic downturns to reflect spending during that period.
The theory rests on the assumption that consumers buy cheaper goods during hard times. Instead of buying Heinz 57, maybe you buy Generic Catsup. Since the consumer spends less money, they need less money. Therefore, if the consumer needs less money, then the amount of money they receive from Social Security of Veterans Disability should be less.
The govenrment is mainly looking to increase “savings” and “revenue.” However, it seems the media allows government to point to the poor for sacrifices while continuing to pay out large amounts of dollars in tax benefits to the “job creators.” Ironically, there are no jobs despite large payouts and tax incentives for companies like GE, Textron and friends. Yes Mr. Obama, where are those shovel ready jobs?
Sadly, our country always seems to look at the downtrodden and disadvantaged to make the most sacrifices during hard times. Disabled veterans were asked to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of every American. All the while, political marienettes at the behest of their puppet masters continually turn to this group to sacrifice even more.
Meanwhile, Republicans like Michelle Bachmann and Paul Ryan want “job creators” to pay no taxes at all. Is this not the most insane bunch of politicians yet?
Paradoxically, Bachmann was a federal tax lawyer and considers herself to be a job creator. So, while taxing the hell out of the little guy, small businesses and middle class people, she helped wealthy Americans create jobs like McDonalds burger flipper and Walmart cashier.
Congressional Budget Office: “Using a Different Measure of Inflation for Indexing Federal Programs and the Tax Code.” Pg. 5.
NY Times: “Democrats Oppose Talk of Cuts to Social Security”
My God. The whole world is looking at how our leadership is treating the working class. As we have so much internal conflict we are letting our guard down as a nation. Our guard is our military defense and financial defense. We make our country vulnerable to the evil in other countries to include our bordering neighbors. These budget cuts only signal to other countries that it is okay to weaken our walls of defense.
Veterans, are all in the same boat regardless of race, ethnicity, sex, specialty, gender, etc. name calling only shows lack of knowledge. If we would band together and influence citizens to vote for prior service personnel, then maybe the veteran’s will be taken care of properly.
Any and all politicians down to the city officials all have a responsibility to take care of the ones who protect our freedom. If they have had no experience doing that, when they make policies they forget about the ones at the end of poverty line, which government has mandated at under $15K. You can’t live on minimum wage even without kids.
Well, I am long winded. May God Bless America and encourage those in leadership roles be as protective of the rights founded for this country. I pray for all veteran’s to be taken care of properly like we veteran’s have helped protect this nation.
if the world were truly civilized there wouldn’t be any need for a military, but since it is not, the least the government could do is to take car of us vets who have had our bodies and minds ruined fighting for your bs policies.
#1- If You Take Notice of The Source that says “Obama Aligned With Republicans” It is The NEW YORK TIMES,. Now owned By Rupert Murdoch , The Owned of FOX news,, So That tells yo It is Tainted, #2- The Actual report said That If GOP forced cuts by threatening to default on debt ceiling, Then those Cuts would take effect, Ass All of America and The world are aware, Obama was Fighting to Pass the new debt ceiling, to Pay Our Bills and NOT allow our economy and good credit to take another hit from Republicans,.. Sucks that So Many just Miss these Facts and Blame those trying to help them!
America, USA is not a country anymore to help the veterans of any war, you are just a pay cut, of whether you have lost your limps, or life, the founding fathers to protect us or dead or in rest homes, patriotism is fine of patriotic Americans who still believe in the system. Send your sons or daughters off to war, and collect them, anyway the war, has made them. The VA will kill them off waiting for services, its always been this way, your service serve is acknowledge, by your broken limbs in a wheel chair, the civilian community does what it can for the Wounded Warrior, but the Military Whom you served should be responsible. The most word that is use we think you for your service. Of what war were there and invasion on Americas soil, are was it some where else. Semper Fi., for these created wars that that shouldn’t have never happen in the first place. Let Politician fight these wars, instead of patriotic Americans, who is no longer fighting for there Country, but others according to orders, for ever cause the Military deem correct by Congress.
i think goldie locks was a squar and jack never had a bean stalk that long
I am a disabled vet also, I was injured and in a wheel chair. how am I suppose to support my family with out being abled to work. I can not stand or sit long or even lay down for a long periods of time. so answer that so called government, my wife works but not enough money rolling in for she only gets min. wage. I am worried all those vets and disabled people should be concerned. and I am not the only one who thinks this..
I am a verteran, but I do believe that this program is being abused by other veterans. I have seen verterans and retirees claiming 60% + disability doing extreme sports and running marathons and triathlons. It should be looked at like our welfare system. FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE***********
all these obamanigger cocksuckers should suck arab dick. fuck them I didn’t get severance while I was knocked off temporary disability retired list I really want to shoot nigger boy up his manpuss
yes some do how ever!!!! many people like myself don’t abuse the system . the problem with this cuts is it effects ever one. I say congress and senators and all elected plus the Obama and the vice prisd take a 40% pay cut and 40% benfit cut then the can come the vets.
god and the soldier all men adore, in times of war but not before, but when the war is over, and all things righted, god is forgotten and the soldier is slighted.
Wow I wouldn’t have a chance once this happens….. Guess ill have to start killing and robbing .
I agree. Guess that’s what they want and a defenseless country too.
theones that put their lifes on the line got shot all to hell why doesn’t our nation demand that the gov increace our disabilty pay 3 times or more so we can live a good life insteda on the poverty line the gov can eaily afford it they bailed the fatcats/banks/cooperations out no problem giveing the politicans a nice salary/benifits they don’t earn quit the giveing away/foreighn aid/ andthe other freebees all over the wourld /stop the wars i like alot of the rest am 140%+ disabled we just srape by on what we get from the gov like feeding a starveing dog scraps when the gov uses you and they are through with you they abuse you nobody will argue that
Dumb hippy commies…Bachman woukd be a better American president than Obama.. We dont beleive in facts , we just dont like blacks…If it wasnt for the good grace of God & fox news to tell it like it is..
people like you are what is wrong with this Country.
Idiot. You speak well for yourself. You say “We don’t believe in facts.”
People receiving entitlements spend this money and this supports the economy. Republican congressmen want that money going to the rich (the even speak of “no taxes” for them).
The rich simply hoard this money as well as put it in overseas tax shelters. This does Nothing for the economy!!
Rep. are part of the equation; they don’t want to pay taxes equal to what we all pay. This is their true interest: greed.
ok i stumbled on this bolg…i am a very serious patriot..are we going to rise up to another revolution or will you folks just let out a lot of hot air? i am a vet and i am ready to go to arm but is this blog just bullshit or are you pepole heade for the next revolution to get us out from under this tyronny? if you want to fight i will be all in and fight until the end to save our country. if you are just bs let me know and i go to hmmm brazil? Please believe me if you are ready to retake our once wonderful nation i am a vietman 101st warrior….lets gets it done or stfu…which??
hehe ready here in the great state of TEXAS…OK YABAMAMA lets get it on and see who wins we are Texans ans hehe we Got the whole military behind us!! an yepper we all got guns ans WILL NEVER GIVE THEM UP!! we had a saying in the bullshit war you sent me to in southeast asia from whit I hmmm learned a LOT!! HOMEBOY WE BE IN TEXAS! “COME GET YA SOME BIATCH!!”
i am lmao…do they know whho has all the guns? I really think some one need th tell the IDIOTA in washington that the military has ALL THE GUNS…come on folks do you really think the government is ready to take on the military? LMFAY!! yobama hey homeboy we got the guns and beyond that i am from Teaxs so ruk roe…come get them!!
I SAY LETS GET A PHONE NUMBER FOR ALL VETERANS TO CALL FROM ALL ACROSS THE NATION AND GET ALL VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS TO COME TOGEATHER AND DEFEAT THE REAL ENEMY. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THE REAL ENEMY IS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT THAT ARE NON U.S. MILITARY. NOT IRAQ OR AFGANISTAN. THE REAL ENEMY IS HERE AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO DIS RESPECT SOLDIERS,MARINES,SAILORS, AND AIRMAN. I HAVE WITNESSED SO MANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND POLITICIANS DIS RESPECT THE U.S. MILITARY. ITS TIME TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE GIVE THEM THEIR RIGHTS.
TALKING ABOUT IT HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER PRODUCE RESULTS….ACTIONS ARE WHAT MUST BE DONE. THIS IS THE BIGGEST MISSION FOR ALL MILITARY PERSONELL AND U.S. VETERANS EVER KNOWN TO MAN KIND. ACTION IS THE MISSION. DONT LET THEM TAKE OUR BENEFITS WHILE THEIR FAMILIES AND KIDS DRIVE BMW’S AND PORCHE’S. AND YOUR KIDS CANT AFFORD COLLEGE AND DONT EVEN HAVE A CAR.
ok so what your plan b?? hehe
281-831-4399…lets gets it done…i will not allow theses bastards to tkae the country i shed blood for and my dad shed blood for!!
I’m with all of you… I have a friend of mine whose a Vietnam War Veteran, and he told me flat out sooner or later there very well may be a civil war again. We call the French pussies but they had no problem yanking good ol King Louise from the throne where he lost everything from the neck up. You bastard politicians had better pull your heads out of your asses and stop trying to fuck over the very people who sacrificed for the very rights you sons of bitches keep stripping away from the American people. Maybe it’s time to stop talking, my fellow Veterans, and start organizing. I was at Walter Reed Army Hospital. There was a young man whose family came down to pick him up because they were informed he signed off on his rights and that he wanted to go home. Funny thing though; he had a bullet in the back of his skull and could barely speak let alone pick up a pen to sign his name. I was on guard duty on the recovery ward, I saw it and spoke to this mans family myself. That was when Bush was in office in 2005. Now what sick, sadistic cock sucker under orders made that phone call to that young mans parents? By the way, he was barely eighteen. If our government wants to start shit overseas, then they had better be prepared to take care of the young men and women who suffered for their dirty little cause.
HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU SLEEPING AT NIGHT…..I AM A DISABLED VETERAN THAT HAD NO HESATATION GOING TO WAR FOR OUR FREEDOM AND YOU WANT TO CUT OUR PAY FOR SERVING THIS COUNTRY! DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH FOR OUR COUNTRY? MAYBE Y’ALL SHOULD GO OVER THERE YOURSELF & SEE WHAT WE HAD TO ENTAIL AND THEN COME BACK TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE….NO SUCH THING WHEN YOU SEE WHAT WE ALL HAVE SEEN! WHAT THE HELL WHY DON’T YOU CUT YOUR PAY INSTEAD OF OURS SO WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP OUR HOMES INSTEAD OF LANDING OUT ON THE STREETS. YOU ALL STAND IN FRONT OF AMERCIA STATING THAT VETERANS DESERVE MORE HELP & DESERVE MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN? ONE QUESTION FOR YOU…WHERE THE HELL IS THE HELP? GOD BLESS ALL THE MEN & WOMEN SERVING OR HAVE SERVED, THAT HAVE COME HOME & TO THE ONES THAT DID NOT! YOUR NOT FORGOTTEN ^j^
this article is somewhat bs. Yes President obama has wanted to walk on vets for years, I am a disabled vet and yes Ive felt the pain of his cuts, but blaming republicans come on get real why dont you do a fact check on this one, who was in office when veterans started getting disability, RFepublicans, and for recent years lets not forget all the pay raises the bush years gave us just so our worthless president of today could freeze it for 2 years, lets not forget our gov workers either who most of them are now veterans who have had there pay frozen for over 2 years and cost of living frozen for over 3 now with a hope that in march we will have a.5% raise after 3 years of nothing. and in case you didnt know not all of these are congress in fact most of this is what is called presidential mandate. get educated people.
I love this country and served it with great pride. Now, that my injuries have reached a point of being totally disabling I applied for a was awarded compensation in very short order. Now, after only one year I am told my check will be cut by half. mmm I wish I could give back half the bullet holes in my body, reclaim the half of a kidney I let on a hillside in Nam, reclaim my total hearing. Well, think about it. They took that all away from me, so now if when I need income, if they dont want to give pay to me, they should give my whole body back. Thanks Obama.
As a disabled vet, and knowing that Obama never served his country in uniform, I would suggest a radical operation that removes what we real men are born with. But of course. Obama is no man.
just smoke check him and move on to the next pos
I suggest anyone seeking Va or Social Security Benefits consult with and attorney, you can do this upon your initial application for benefits, and get out there and vote for politicians that work for you and your family. If they aren’t working for you they need to be fired.
Joey, My suggestion is fight back. If you have insurance from your job, go to a non-military Doctor and plead your case to him. The military (Government) by law has to take his diagnosis into consideration. Remember, the government is looking at ways to cut and slice. Its going to be this way until you, I, die. I know the wait on an appeal is long, but never give up and fight your case every step of the way. It took me 7 years to get 70%, but its because I am receiveing disability for 3 diferent issues and because I have a lot of non-military doctors diagnosis. Also remember, the government saves money when they deny a claim one year and give it to you the next because of an appeal. It’s just like social security, about 80% who first apply for a claim are denied the first or even second time, even though these people deserve the claim. The less money the government will give to you the first time you claim, the more they save in interest. Think about it. Plus, they aren’t going to make any efforts to chase you down to get you to appeal. So FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, for your self because no one else will. Does this make sense?
here is what you do if they deny your claim, get a gov. form 95, this is the form you fill out when you sue the united states of america inc. in federal court for redress of grievences. you put in the amount you are suing for and the name of the offenfing government agency. then file suit. i did and it took me two years to get into court and i was awarded 5.5 million. if i had not done this, i would still be waiting for my claim to be adjudagated, and i won my case in 2004. yes you can sue and win, you just have to have the knowledge to do it.
why dont they just take cash from the higher ups in the army who make more then enough to support family and themselves…
if they cut va benefits for medically retired vets who were willing to throw their lives in the line of fire for a country at war who has been trying to take the life support line for the vets and their families. because of a debt that wasnt the fault of these injured medically retired vets who have done nothing but serve their country but after they get home and are now trying to fight to be able to live, thats kind of retarded dont you think??? Instead of fighting and wanting to take away from people who threw their life away for a country who just thinks about themselves, why dont they fight to keep the earth from dying on us and in end the extinction of human kind with global warming. Get your heads outa your butts and think about something that matters for once!!!!!!
I am a disabled veteran.No wonder I require nerve meds,anziety meds, and treatment for depression.Our country is at it’s lowest point in 30 years,and the best we can do,is the present batch of comeplete idiots we call politicions?Where in the universe do polosi and buchanin come from?TAX us and give to people who’s first act on american soil,enter our country illegally?Give them benefits it cost me 4 years and attorneys fees to get(social secureity,va disability-30 years).Tyrany it is.Our entire executive branch needs euphanized.They need to be shown we are to be feared not vise versa.
I have a question. I’m 20% SC on my left ankle and knee. I went to a civilian doctor when I began having problems with my right knee also. He said because I’ve shifted my weight from left to right all these years (27) since my injuries this has caused the problems with my right knee. I of course sent this paperwork in and VA not only denied my claim, they took 10% from my ankle injury (some BS that my ankle was getting better). The amazing think to me was I was sent for reevaluation on my left ankle, the rater barely spoke english, and didn’t even measure the deflection and movement of the joint. i had only recently gotten the 30% rating before this, and it seems they were determined to get me back to 20%. What can I do?
To cut vets benefits is crazy.We fight for are country and get punched in are face when we come home.They should walk in are shoes just one time.All i can say is wow.
At one time I was going to vote for Bachmann, Newt,Cain,now ?, these people have never worn the uniform of this country, all of them are professional, well off elected officials.
If it isn’t the elderly who paid into SS it’s the veterans who paid the price that Obama, and these gutless people seem to target, none ever talk about cutting welfare, food stamps, section 8 and other programs for dead beats, and illegals.
Write,e mail, fax representatives and let it be known we veterans aren’t going to stand for it, Obama, and the rest of these losers are transforming this country into a welfare state.
A reply to kattman says reply. Hey dummy I could not read past your 3rd sentence before I realized how much you devalued your opinion by not knowing your facts and trying to speak about them. Cain not only wore a uniform he was a pow! Leaving the point of the article Aside, you need to speak with intelligence and not emotion if you wish to be taken seriously.
The Senators name is McCain not Cain. Maybe you both should go back to school.
I’m really confused. How did this happen ? We have a do nothing congress. Politicians in office that have untouchable pay and benefits. These are the people that got us in this mess yet they have a job great pension plan the best medical plan on the planet and the only way they seem to be able to loose all this is if they get caught in sex crimes, or shady money deals.
These are the same people that continue to attack our earned and deserved benefits. They continue to have study after study on our benefits and every one of them agree that we deserve allot more than we are receiving now but the time wasted on these studies no matter how much in our favor go to the sideline with absolutly nothing done for us.
Its time for them to stop asking us to make sacrifice after sacrifice due to there uncontrollable spending and start at the top to share the burden.
Enough is enough.
what the hell are these people talking about cutting benefits? How bout we start cuting benefits at the top Like senators, congressman, governors, and up. Every time they wana save money its always the people that need it most that get cut. Im a 100% disabled unemployable veteran and haveing lost my wife to a stroke I have to raise my two kids on a fixed monthly salary and cant work or risk losing my va benefits.
Please do not equate the President with the (R) members of Congress. President Obama has done a LOT for veterans, disabled or not, and for their families.
What has he done for Veterans???? He surely has not followed up with overseeing a department that is directly under his control. If I had been told that an HR rep spent millions on parties my Secretary would have been gone that day.. The presidents job is to make sure that his cronies are doing their jobs not promoting corruption. This president talks with his hands and has allowed corruption to be amplified in this country. How many AIG insurance frauds? How many housing frauds? How many Secret Service frauds? One man in jail for the stock market problems. No one in jail for all the other fraud. DVA is worse than all the other combined departments. Go figure he has helped how???
Shades of the way we treated vets after WWI. They are so inconsiderate, coming home and expecting to be given their due after being sent off to do corporatized America’s dirty work.
Our Veterans are the backbone to the freedom that we have, and to take their Benefits and Social Security away from them is a disgrace and God will get you. The Veterans aren’t able to work , my husband was in Viet Nam , has a leg off, has Cancer ,Kidney Stones all from caused from Viet Nam and Agent Orange, He can’t sleep of a night because of the pain AND You Rich So Call Government wants to take his Veterans Benefits and Social Security away? Well it’s for sure that You are only wanting to put more in your pockets while we suffer. The SPEAKER of the HOUSE only lives a few miles from and was raised in a Beer Joint, has he forgot his background, has he forgot who put him in office ,NEVER AGAIN. We have no GOVERNMENT!! OBAMA you don’t have the sense God gave an ant. Please Dear God come to our Rescue. God help you because HELL will be a terrible place. TRY TO LIVE ON WHAT THE VETERANS DO FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS AND NOT TOUCH YOUR MILLIONS AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITHOUT. Your ideals would be different. You all are scum bags period!!!!!!!
Libs? Can you even read?
Ronald Reagan as our supposedly fiscal conservative pres tripled the deficit he inherited, then George Bush Sr. doubled Reagans defictit. That makes it 6 times for 2 conservatives. Clinton comes along & wipes it all out leaving a surplus for his successor & he is not a conservative, how does that work. Then in comes George Bush Jr. & he again a conservative broke all records, not only spending Clinton’s surplus, but spent a record deficit. Now the supposedly conservatives/republicans want wipe out all the deficit on the backs of firemen, educators, middle class, Social Security, Medicare, disabled vets & vets, police, consumer protection agencies, & on & on. Give me a break !!! how can any one vote for any of them. Most of the demos are nearly as bad, but at least their base & what they stand for makes them do some good. All of these statements are fact & can be looked up on the internet if in doubt about any of them. Vote these Jackasses that hate what America actually stands for out of office. They are motivated exactly the same as John Dillinger only they do not use a gun. GREED, GREED, & more GREED. A government of the dollar, by the dollar, & for the dollar. They are for the Special Interests only not the people or America !!!!!
All I have to say is I wish they would. They are gonna have tens of millions of vets on the steps of congress. You made us killers (army infantry) just remember that.
I would like to see these libs try and take away the disability benifits from vets you want to see a uprising well try it and you will see
As long as we have the The Electorial College Voting system in this country we are never going to change anything. The system is obsolete! We need to change to a popular voting system and make sure every vote in America is counted. The only way we will ever get the system changed is for Veterans all over this country to stop bitching get off their asses and march on Washington DC! A good day for it would be Veterans Day!
Why should we cut veterans benefits just to help the government out. I am a disable veteran that was hurt while on active duty, I count on the medical benefits, I can not get hired for a job because of the constant pain I have in my back. Veterans served are country and now the government wants to leave them hanging out on a limb. We has veterans need to stand up for are rights because nobody else is.
Veterans always get the short end of the stick. Always have/Always will. Most don’t ask for more than what they deserve. However, just to live off of a Veterans paycheck is not very smart.
For myself, I have read about other veterans who have died from Thrombositopenia (Complications caused by Quinine use in Vietnam. I have been lucky enough to survive as long as I have. However my blood platelet count contiues to drop and my time is drawing near when life will no longer be a blessing. Congress has not authorized pay for those of us who suffer from the use of Quinine. I have been living with severe loss of hearing; bilateral as well as the concernes about my depletion of blood platelets. This will lead to eventual blood transfusions and other problems. I have further complication from Agent Orange related Diabetes.
Thus, while congress continues to maintain an illegal and unconstitutional government, those who served this country are being asked to pay a premium in health loss simply because we have served. My time in III and IV Corps, swimming in Agent Orange and the problems that has caused as well as my present age leaves me very little margin for error when it comes to living expense.
If Veterans would band together, we could help each other overcome the financial burdons many face. but I think we have forgotten what this country was founded upon. Shame on Congress and Shame on Vetrans who do not know the history of our great nation. It leaves us in a rut to face the problems of each day as they grow worse in our trashed economy and worthless government (so called) representatives. Patriots Serve!
Seems to be some confusion about what is going on within the issue. Please review the NY Times article I highlighted within the text. When you read the CBO Report and the fact that Obama was considering an alignment with Republicans to implement the new measure of inflation, that new measure not only impacts Social Security, but it also would impact Disability Compensation, to enact “savings.” This just basically means that the Government would pay out less, meaning we would also get less, whether on Social Security of Disability or Military Retirement. Getting less means less.
Do the research people.
“Congressional Democrats, who have thrived for decades as guardians of Social Security, said Thursday that they were not ready to surrender that role to help President Obama get a deal on federal spending and the debt limit.”
“As word spread that Mr. Obama was considering large savings from the use of a different measure of inflation to reduce the annual cost-of-living adjustment in Social Security benefits, Democrats joined with lobbyists for older Americans to reject the idea. Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, the senior Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said Democrats would oppose changes in Social Security benefits as part of the deficit-reduction talks.”
Obama is NOT aligned with the Republicans. He was warning that the Republicans might eventually get away with these tricks if something wasn’t done to address the crisis.
I think it is more than disingenuous for this publication to hint that Obama was on the side of cutting disabled vet’s bennies, especially when his first act of office was to give the VA an across the board 15% budget increase back in 2009.
I expect a retraction or correction…don’t make me come back here and make the author (BEN KRAUSE) look an idiot by proving my assertion.
It is amazing that politicians and their friends created all the problems in the world for us, yet they never acknowledge any of their mistakes. Where is the talk of politicians reducing their budgets, taking paycuts, cutting staff bonuses, etc. We need to get rid of the whole bunch of them and start over, the Democratic Party and the Republican Party’s are obsolete, they do nothing for the good of the people, just for the good of the politicians. Our government is very inefficient and ineffective these days.
AMAZING….. If our politicians say that our true defenders of freedom, that come home disabled have it to good is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!. They bled, lost limbs, their minds, and hope for a better future. I guess not being able to hold down a job, not being able to hold a simple social conversation and or not being able to see or feel for a small disability check is having it to good. It is always easy to say things if you havent been there yourself (BACHMAN). Go to a veterans hospital and see how long our vets have to wait for help BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDS. Look at the conditions our DEFENDERS OF FREEDOM have to deal with. For all you true Americans support your veterans let them know that this nation cares about its own. POLITICIANS NEED NOT APPLY UNLESS YOUR A VET. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THOSE WHO DEFEND ITS FREEDOMS.
You are forgetting that you are dealing with the scum of the earth politicians. If you combined all their IQs you might come up with one. They only says what is convenient at the time. The majority of the ones calling for the cuts were NEVER in the military and if they were they pushed a pencil. All the people that ever served this country should be ashamed of the current group of LOSERS that we have in Washington.
OK this is enough.. I’m a disabled veteran of OEF/OIF how do these appointed personnal. Get to judge disabled veterans and say we have it good??????? Look at the past you f——- idiots and learn a leason from the past.. Do you remember the past and all the veterans that came back and didn’t get the benefits that they earned.. While you all sat in a class room and took it easy.. Check the history and look and what happened. How dare you say We have it made..I have lost almost everything I have worked all my life for………… And you want to take for from us and family thanks alot…
I see another “American Revolution” Part 2 coming up. DHS placed vets on the domestic terrorist list and if you mess with too many vets on their right to benefits and cut their livelihood out by threatening them. This govt will see great problem with its vets getting together to get rid of these politicians one way or another.
When I served back in ’60s Cold War years, we knew who our enemies where and where to find them. They were the Socialist in the Soviet Union and Red China as well as Castro’s Cuba. We defended our country and kept the Socialist out. Now, today we have them living in the White House and in the halls of Congress. Just like Castro deceived the Cubans in order to take control of Cuba in ’59, Obama and the Democrates have done and are doing the same to us, lieing through their teeth. They, the Dems, could care less that polls had shown that less than 40% of Americans wanted “Obama Care”. But they passed it anyway because they controlled the White House, the Senate and the House of Reps. Now they’ll fund it by taking funds from our Veterans programs. They are a threat to the America I was raised in and defended.
And the media effectively keeps this particular congressonal issue out of the limelight by making it look like congress is attacking some poor old worthless veterans for being lazy. And thats not news worthy. Congress is always attacking veterans benifits when there is hardly a Veteran present to make some kind of a stand against these apparently rough congresspersons. Only elect those who talk about recuding congresses life time benefit, and this for just two years of service and this was appartently voted on behind our backs to begin with.
I forgot to add one other comment. We need to have some kind of term limits on our federal government elected officials, just like the president. Four years is long enough for all of them!!!
When they say the won’t touch benefits now, they already have by freezing their pay the last two years … VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!
I think it’s time we all come together, as a peaceful yet firm, group of people and go after all of the benefits that we pay for out of our pockets for the people we elect & won’t elect again. Why should we suffer while they have premium healthcare, retirement and are able to vote themselves raises?!!!!!!! This is not like a Democracy that we live in, it is more like a dictatorship. We are like puppets on a string having no control over what happens while oue Representatives & Senators decide how we are going to live. Now is the time to take control back. Take their benefits away. Take their ability to vote themselves raises away, that should be up to the American people!!!!! If you are at all concerned with the way our country is run than you need to do some thing & do it now before our time runs out!!!! I am willing to do whatever it takes to get this done but I don’t know where to start or who to contact. Help Please!
Call your democrat and republican officials and let them know that you’re going to cut your votes for them since they worthless. They would rather spend $ 3,000,000.00 each year studying cows passing gas. How about billions being sent to African countries to educate blacks on how to clean their penis before sex. Wow, what good will that do if their sex partners have A.I.D.’s? Apparently they were to freaking stupid to use condoms that U.S. tax payers sent over. Oh, over 13 billion tax $$$$$$$$$$$$$’s are spent each year to support illegal immigrants who also take jobs from veterans. Don’t want to cut them since they’re a growing voter source for the crooks and cons in Washington.
Illegal’s receive freemedical, dental, housing, food stamps, access to jobs, college tuition paid for and they cost tax payers billions in crime. They get free housing and citizens who do have health insurance cannot get care in many emergency rooms at regular hospitals due to illegal’s storming emergency rooms for free care. I waih all of congress and the senate would gather and committ mass suicide. Good riddens!
Both political parties are freaking bold-faced liars who had promised to leave veterans benefits alone. Now they have to make cut in order to ensure a better living for illegal immigrants, foreign blacks, and the welfare class who keep producing children out of wedlock for everyone else to support.
I suggest cutting welfare, all aide to illegal’s, and billions that are sent to Agrica for ignorant people to squander and to get rich off of U.S. tax payers. No, blacks have to have their demands met and that’s the bottom line. CUts from white male vets have already been underway at VA Hospitals and disability benefits as they are handed out to racist blacks.
Where the hell was Bachman when she was 18? College? I joined the Army.
These politicians are so far removed from the rest of us. They all rah-rah around the vets throwing condescending at-a-boys/girls at those serving. “Great Americans,” are those who have served. Are they willing to give up any of their “perks”? Has a single politician said anything about “austerity” for themselves? No. Obama and his clan flip around the country … go on these vacations that the average American wouldn’t be able to afford … members in the Senate and Congress go to other countries … for what?
They dump money all over the world … and yes … someone mentioned above don’t talk about taking a dime away from the illegals … not the welfare recipients who have made welfare a life long career. No. They talk about taking a barely liveable wage away from vets injured – in many different ways – while they were in service from their country. If anything, the whole of Washington and state & local governments should be stripped of benefits. Congress sure as hell doesn’t deserve a full pension after serving only two years. That’s something that should be looked at. Why does a Congressman/woman get a full ride for just 2 years of work, are not required to dump a portion of their income into Social Security, then receive a full pension (nothing that any disabled vet will see — ever!!) full medical, etc…. etc ….?
I’m gonna say it again. They’re treating the vet like we’re the problem. We’re the ones sucking at the federal trough. We’re just an easy mark. They probably figure that the illegals and welfare recips have more political clout than vets. Hurt the vet … who cares. They use us and the serving military as good PR. They are nauseating. I still think a requirement should be that if anyone serves in a public office, they should’ve served their country first.
MICHELLE BACHMAN YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO LIFE…THE PLANET EARTH…AND A TERRIBLE EMBARASSMENT BEFORE THIS NATION.,YOU WOULD NOT BE WHERE YOU ARE TODAY IF IT WERE NOT FOR MYSELF AND MANY OTHER VETERANS WHO PUT UP THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE UP FOR THIS COUNTRY…!YOU IDIOT…!PEY LAMED HEY TO YOUR ENTIRETY AND ON EVERY THING U DESIRE AND LOVE…!
I can only say; I am saddened and shame on Bachmann saying disabled vets have it too good? Well, I suppose she wasn’t walking through the rice fields; with things crawling into her underwear. All the while this was going on, bombs flew by; leaving a “dust” in it’s wake that went into the lungs, onto the skin and the brains of the brave service members who were drafted and did not run away. (i am not passing judgement on those who chose a different path). Maybe she has not seen the Hurt Locker, or visited enough of the vets now returning, who had their brains scrambled by these; I want to say IUD’s but that is not right – anyway is it their fault that this happened to them as a casualty of war? Not only that, we Americans sat at our dinner tables watching the news clips of this crap going on. (during Viet Nam). The most recent engagements are less visible. The discussions in my home were heated but I was raised by parents who believed service and action; speaks louder than words. I just hope that if it comes to the 7 and 8 category of Vets get thrown off; that the VA takes the time to wean those vets off meds, that if stopped abruptly; could kill them, or throw them into seizures requiring hospitalization on a ventilator? I am not sure why I am writing this, because I did not serve in country; but did serve proudly during the Viet Nam war; hence am considered Viet Nam Era vet. I lost a very good friend from Agent Orange. He died right before the government acknowledged it. I recently lost my job and could not afford to pay medical premiums,. and have used the VA for two years and I feel so guilty, but the alternative is not something I want to face without treatment. Hey, for all you disabled vets who have it too good, have a show and tell with Bachman and let her see first hand what is still under your skin, in your legs, or left a scar on your emotions that will not go away. Always remember; you did fight the fight; at the time followed what your government had you do when your number came up. What is wonderful is that those Vietnam Vets who served in country, are actually giving of their time to help these young kids coming back today. I am glad that I knew at 17, that what was being done and said to Vietnam Vets had no room in my beliefs of my country. I am not sure what the answer is but I will say this, Ms. Bachmann wants to govern our country and trample over more human beings and their service; I think not. PS This is really caddy but I wonder if Ms Bachmann realizes the suffering and disabling conditions the animals are left in, when they are used to prove that the makeup; mascara, etc, she is wearing have it too good? I suppose human suffering is a part of life, but to speak so disrespectful; shame shame shame. I believe an apology is in order.
You shouldnt be asshamed to use the VA hospitals if you are in need or if due to war time disabilities you need them, thats what the VA is for. I never feel guilty using the VA I sold health insurance untill obamacare pretty much killed the market out of the 23 companies i represented due to my injuries sustained in combat I was considered uninsurable and the programs i did qualify for such as group coverage or discount plans wouldnt pay for my pre exisiting conditions or were over $600. yes i made good money however I wasnt about to pay for my own when uncle sam is the reason I am like that. I was shot twice on 2 seperate tours to Iraq and I was a volunteer and enlisted b4 the war however i didnt sign up for the medical bills i have that i got for serving my country. and cut the VA benifits like I said I took 2 rounds on 2 seperate occassions and 30% disability for not being able to lift over 20lbs and bearly any use from nerve damage to my primary arm I dont think I have it to good.
When you join the military, you think you are serving the better good. In fact, all veterans serve are self serving politicians who are only looking for the mass votes of mindless people. These politicians threaten to take away benefits from the elderly, the disabled, and the children born in this country. The country has no problem giving benefits to illegals while at the same time taking away benefits of our grandparents. People who serve in congress should do it for no pay or benefits since all of them are multi-millionaires already. And why does the working class support most of the taxes in this country. Take 50 percent of the top ten percent wage earners in this country. A person making 20 million a year should be able to live off of 10 million just fine. STOP taking money from the less fortunate and let people on the top fund the country. Revolutions have occured over much less of reasons. Lets stop this endless goverment trap of oppression of the masses for the preservation of the rich. When I look at this country, I see a government selling freedom to the highest bidder. The poor are in slavery to the rich. WAKE UP, there is no freedom in America unless you have the dollars to be so. Nobody will read this anyway, this is just a site to let free thinkers voice an unheard position. The country is in freefall and has convinced everyone that everything is just fine. Just pay your taxes!
This is so wrong. In fact, we have a man at the WI State Capitol about to starve himself to DEATH over this issue. He, Hallis Mailen, is a vet (easy to find when you goolge ‘hunger strike Madison veterans’) . The President is not responding to his simple demands to meet with him or even to acknowledge his concerns. As he told me personally, if he is not heard, there will be a dead body on their doorsteps.
I agree with you Mathew, I spent too much time on the lines to deal with their bullshit….Focus Americans…Obama can’t take the chance of bringing down the world economy. NO AMERICAN CITIZEN WILL PUT UP WITH HIS LYING AND THREATS! Soldiers will not put up with ‘not getting paid’, especially now a days when there is NO TRUST in the war. No American citizen will put up with their disability check being delayed or taken away. There are NO JOBS, the economy is in jeopardy, and now there are THREATS about what we have worked our whole lives for? This will come to a head and it will ‘threaten’ Obama’s mouth and life. He is trying to come out of this smelling like a rose because if he does not get his way, he can say he fought for the economy. Now does that sound real?
WE AS AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS TYPE OF FEAR MONGERING. Can you just imagine if the National Guard ‘tried’ to control a mob and weren’t getting paid? What do you think the police force will do when American’s are up in arms? There is a reality here and America has control, not the president.
Obama wants to take away my Va disability check as part of his cuts in govt spending ….Then I see his wife in a commercial to help veterans and their families it makes me fucking sick to my stomach I want to go puke up all the lies they’re feeding me and the rest of the country….STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOURSELVES AMERICA FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM BACK….
WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEARS THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE FREEDOM; WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR THE GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE TYRANNY! END THE TYRANNY AMERICA!
FELLOW SOLDIERS I KNOW WE HAVE FOUGHT MORE BATTLES THAN WE CARE TO HAVE SEEN OR ADMIT AND THR BIGGEST BATTLE WE FACE IS THIS! WE MUST BAND TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THING THAT AMERICA SHOULD RECLAIM AND THAT IS DIGNITY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN THE MILITARY! I KNOW SOME MAY HAVE BUT ONE LAST BATTLE IN THEM BUT AMERICANS AND SOLDIERS WE CANNOT TOLERATE THEIR LIES ANY MORE! WE MUST PROVE THEM WRONG AND STAND TOGETHER!
OBAMA THINKS WE ARE WEAKER WHEN WE HAVE NOTHING, PROVE TO HIM WE ARE NOT WEAK WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING WORTH FIGHTING FOR!
What a bunch of hypocrites in Congress, one minute you support our servicemen and women then turn around kick us to the ground. It’s all about your rich buddy’s see how we can support them. I bet if those rich sob’s lives were threatened by an enemy from another country they would be begging for protection. So why serve then if you get hurt in battle or while on active duty what are they going to do for you? Time to vote them out….oops we never voted them in in the first place!
First off, Michelle Bachmann never made that comment – it is made up by the author because the bill she supports has cuts and he has an agenda. Did you ever notice that these articles written by liberal school graduates always leave out the Democrats? Who gave us concurrent pay? It sure wasn’t a bunch of jackasses.
As for taxing the little guy – we are heading toward 50% of Americans not paying any taxes at all so how are they being trod upon? Anyone earning over $379K is paying upward of 35% taxes and no matter how many tax shelters you think may be out there they are not going to get wealthy individuals out of paying a truckload of money to an out-of-control government not concerned with Vets but with Labor Unions and Europe.
What the Politicians need to remember is what every Vet knows. The government cannot create it can only destroy. That is why our military is so good – we can tear up anything. American was created to be one footstep from anarchy; so pay us for our service, treat our injuries and otherwise stay the heck out of our way.
When I hear that cuts to any vets arise, It sickens me to the core, Veterans make this country what it is, not those clowns up in DC. I hear about people that collect Social Security that have only lived in this country a few years. You shouldn’t be able to collect anything unless you were born here or fought for this country. I guarantee that if you were to go to another country and live there for a while and try to get benefits, they would laugh at you. Other countries laugh at us, they think we are push overs. It is time to re think America and begin to build on what we know is the right thing to do.
Throw Obama out as well as the rest of the crooked politicians out for a buck. If you didnt serve then be served with a notice of resignation for even contiplating the thought of va benefit slashing for those that have served. Shame on you and teh ranch you grew up on. This country is terrible for imposing such threat to our real heroes.
Senators from Wi & Mn take a huge kiss at my nuts. You phony SOBs you are the ones overpaid! Why don’t we cut politician pay by 230 BILLION, you’d still be overpaid. Leave US Vets alone, we paid in sweat and blood for what we get, and it still is not enough you fools. You pricks have a woman politician get shot, all over the news, how many vets have been lost in the last 5 years????? Where’s their tribute???? Wis and Minn, get rid of these fools!!!!!!!!!!
At 18, I signed a promise to defend my fellow Americans, and country from ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic. I was disabled keeping this promise to my country, and earned my honorable discharge. It took ten years for my country to acknowledge my disability. It now seems that Americans only enemy is our very own government. Tax the blue-collar working class, and liberate the wealthy from any responsibility to the country they call home. 10% tax should mean just that, whether u make a dollar, or ten million dollars. If government officials can’t perform the job they are hired to do within reason, IT’S TIME TO GO. We as Americans need to stand up against this kind of tyranny. If they wanna cut spending, why don’t they take the first pay cuts? Lead by example or get to the back of the line!
When a person agrees and commits him or herself to serve this great Nation’s armed forces, they are giving and oath to protect it with a “Blank Check” given to the nation, the amount being up to including giving up your life for your country. They are OWED these so called “Entitlements!”Part of the modest promise to those who serve with honorable conditions and who were willing to potentially give their life to this country, is Medical care if you need it. Putting Vet benefits on the table for reduction is Disgusting. What is even more sickening is the politicians who never served a day want to continue to give tax cuts to corporations that outsource jobs . They call many of these corporations “Job Creators” . Yes they DO create jobs but NOT in this country. They will continue to enjoy govt. support while Veterans benefits are being cut. Make it simple, NO reduction in vet benefits period! Those who support them need to be voted out of Office.
If you only have a dollar and Heinz 57 costs 1.25 you know very well you’ll get what is cheaper so you can pay your bills and be able to servive on what the goverment gives a vet .at times I feel sorry for the people we elect into office ,they seem to forget where they came from,we as vets didn’t choose to get to where we are now ,but political people forget that if it were not for us ,YOU wouldn’t be where you are now.that leather chair must feel better then my milk carton that I sit on to have my meals,ENJOY YOUR LOBSTER Diner it’s on us the tax payers that pay your wages…….
This whole thing really ticks me off! how can they think “vet have it to good”! my husband was attacked and almost killed for this country and now has suffered from ptsd for the past 7 years! is that really having it to good! If they cut these benifits are family of six will lose our home! is that having it to good! Really get a life people! How about you stop handing out the money to other countries and start helping ours!
NEED TO START CUTTIND POLITICANS HEADS OFF
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