Free Law Degree Mitchell Hamline

One Minnesota law school just opened its doors to veterans in a bold, new way. Mitchell Hamline School of Law will now allow veterans to get a free law degree.

According to the school’s website, veterans qualified for law school who are also eligible for Post 9/11 GI Bill Yellow Ribbon Program can attend for free. The school changed its policy to allow the free education.  only contribute $1,000 to tuition before.

Before, they would only contribute $1,000 to tuition. This was a rather insignificant amount since the school if private, costing around $40,000 per year.

Now, with a combination of funds between VA, the Yellow Ribbon Program, and Mitchell Hamline, those students can attend free… well, kind of.

(I’ll explain that later)

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According to the news release on their website:

President and Dean Mark C. Gordon says Mitchell Hamline is pleased to be able increase its support for veterans.

“We all owe a great debt to everyone serving our country,” Gordon says. “This is a small way to help in showing our gratitude.”

Sarah Hogfoss of Fargo, N.D., served in the U.S. Army from 2009 to 2012. When Hogfoss, 35, starts her second year at Mitchell Hamline this fall, her tuition and fees will be paid for.

“I’m really happy with this change,” Hogfoss says. “I won’t have to take out additional student loans to cover the remaining balance of my tuition, and I won’t have to pay out-of-pocket tuition for J-term and summer courses.”

According to Mitchell Hamline Assistant Director of Financial Aid Nick Anderson, this arrangement is available to any eligible full-time student veteran. While other private law schools around the country offer to match VA funds to pay veterans’ full tuition and fees, many restrict how many students are eligible.

“Many schools have a cap on the number of students they will offer this to,” Anderson says. “Some also have an application process that is first-come, first-served, so only early applicants get the benefit. We want to maximize every eligible student’s benefit, since it is a benefit they have earned.”

This is certainly good news for some veterans, and I hope some reading this website take the opportunity to look into this option.

Not So Fast – Veterans Will Be Debt Free

My good friend Brian Lewis, a lawyer who graduated from Mitchell Hamline, wanted to clarify that the school is not really providing anything “free”. The degree is actually paid for by your benefits that you earned – – the school is not waiving its tuition by any stretch of the imagination.

So, being a good lawyer, Lewis helped delineate what the school is really doing. Veterans who attend, who also have Yellow Ribbon entitlement / GI Bill entitlement, will not have to pay out of pocket.

Here is what Lewis had to say in our Facebook group, Disabled Veterans – Chapter 31 VocRehab:

Yes, folks, they are also the only ABA-accredited law school in the country that offers a hybrid JD program. For regionally located folks, their weekend program also offers options. While those enrollment options will not qualify you under Yellow Ribbon, because you cannot attend for 12 credits (full time) in those programs, they are also a valuable way to make law school attainable.

Also be aware that the school does have limiting language as to under what circumstances they will waive tuition. “Starting this fall semester, veterans eligible for the Post 9/11 G.I. Bill© Yellow Ribbon Program will have their Mitchell Hamline School of Law education paid for in full. Veterans who served at least three years in active duty since Sept. 11, 2001, and who attend law school full time, can have their tuition and fees fully covered by a combination of funds from the Department of Veterans Affairs, the VA’s Yellow Ribbon Program, and Mitchell Hamline.” Therefore, you must be using Chapter 33 GI Bill (not MGIB) AND must meet their TIS requirements.

I attended the law school at the University of Minnesota as an out of state student, making my tuition bill (or rather, the one paid by VocRehab) around $45,000 per year at the time.

Being A Lawyer Is Awesome

I personally love being an attorney, and being able to fight for the rights of my clients against wrongful denials of benefits by VA adjudicators and counselors.

None of this would have been possible for me without funding from Vocational Rehabilitation & Employment (VocRehab). Now, veterans unable to secure funding from VocRehab will still have the same result using their GI Bill funds.

The benefit of having law school paid for is huge. Most new lawyers are also buried under a mounting of debt, sometimes over $200,000. This means normal new lawyers are stuck paying $3,000 per month for up to a decade or more.

That is a huge house payment.

So imagine your options when you graduate law school without any debt at all? The possibilities are endless, and you will not have to take a crap corporate lawyer job to cover your enormous debt.

Instead, you can focus on veterans rights law or any other area of law you choose. Going to school free is a huge liberator of minds and missions.

I hope some of you check it out.

Thanks to Tom Bruize for finding this for me, today.

Source: http://mitchellhamline.edu/news/2017/06/07/eligible-veterans-can-attend-mitchell-hamline-for-free-starting-in-the-fall/

Jo3n

Appears things may be going your way, and is well deserved. But, moving to Minnesota…, for a law degree…HELL YES. Again, congratulations on your most recent successes.

Windguy

Score another one for the Pipers. Pretty amazing.

Lem

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Dennis
Oh Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends. Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz?… – Janis Joplin (who worked hard and could afford ANY car she wanted). “Luck” is when preparation meets opportunity and in this vein lawyers tend to be the luckiest people on Earth. Except Perry Mason. I think Paul got lucky with Della and… Read more »
Pete Perez

I am 72.I would have taken the Law School Offer 40 to 50 years ago.My Father lived to 82. I may be dead soon& a Law Degree would Not Benefit me Nor my Family. Besides, I live in Texas , which has
Mild Weather, 9 months per year. Thank you but no Thank you!
Where were these Offers when I came back from Vietnam??*Pete*Houston,Texas*

ANutterVet

@Pete Perez – – – Where are all of them now? Spread this all around the nation. Colleges and Universities should give all BENEFICIARY’s (Veterans) free tuition to fulfill a destiny, a dream, a life. Thanks for your post @Pete Pererz. – – – Nutter.

cj

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ANutterVet
This is a Repost that you might have missed. Excuse the errors, I know there are some. ANutterVet June 9, 2017 at 8:17 pm Off Topic – – – To All – – – Who Wants To Help Me To Embarrass The VA – – – I may be wrong, but within my own rational thinking and background, I can’t accept what the VA wants to do to me. And, how the VA wants to treat my CHRONIC LUMBAR BACK… Read more »
Seymore Klearly

You already know the one answer that is going to help you the most.

You know that you should seek medical attention out side the VA Health Care System. That is if you want proper medical care.

Nutter if your car breaks won and you take it to a mechanic. If you are unsatisfied with the mechanic’s repair you stop using them. You find the right mechanic and have the repair done properly.

Seymore Klearly

Sorry that should read. Nutter if your car breaks down and you take it to a mechanic.

Sepp Dietrich

what would i do?
1. i’d learn how to make cannabis resin extract and start taking it. alot of it. as much as you can take.
2. i’d stop reading anti-hitler propaganda and start reading real history. Mein Kampf, Stalag Edition is a good start.

OLDMARINE

you can lead them to water but you cant make them drink it

figure8fan
ANutterVet, This is my take and my opinion. I have tried almost everything they have wanted me to try. I posted on a few blogs ago about what I have tried. The VAMC is using you as they are with all of us that deal with chronic pain. We are test subjects. Nothing more, nothing less. Think about it, what single group of people can give the best results for medically testing and gaining a very accurate conclusions. Veterans, we… Read more »
Dennis
@ANV It is an honor to be tapped for illogical thinking! What you ask is not simple at all. You hurt and now you are a bit scared about the future. There is a sense of desperation in your post that I recognize from having seen it in myself. Let me tell you that as the final pills disappear one by precious one that the sense of desperation will grow. Desperation causes either a flight or fight response, so likely… Read more »
namnibor

@Dennis- THAT was awesome advice for ANutterVet. Every bit of it truth out in the wild, and ANV will appreciate this 6 months to a year after having a brain and body free of these captivating and enslaving medications.

All natural as much as can be done is the best way. Herbal Therapy comes to mind.

ANutterVet

While I’m waiting, I’m fluffing up some canniberner budsters of some loud shit. The keys on the keyboard are moving all around. I wonder if this stick is from Asia. Look at these streaks. Looks like it is treated with something, and the smell is some sweet and pine smelling. Something going on at my place. Let me see if @Dennis is outside to burn some dem bundles of sticky trichomes on top every ting. – – – Nutter.

ANutterVet

Following . . . then not . . . following . . . then not . . . following . . .

please list who else is following at the moment? thank you!

Millard Waugh
This doesnt have anything to do with the article which I think getting a law degree would be awesome,even tho Im to old now,but I tried requesting another Dr. And was told if I did I would be labeled as a disruptive patient,how am I disruptive if I dont like the Dr.I call her the asprin Dr.no matter what I may have her advice Oh that happens to everyone,just take some aspirin and it will be ok.I have cyst on… Read more »
OLDMARINE

Millard Waugh………..I would run from that BITCH

namnibor

Off-Topic, but about fraud on massive scale and military and US Army Colonel and contractors defrauding U.S. Gov’t. in Georgia area updating military IT….very close to VA stuff. seeing how the DoD and VA will sharing contractors with IT….check this crappy cling-on leftovers from Obummer:

“”http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4585592/US-Army-colonel-charged-alleged-bribery-scheme.html#ixzz4jXgBBeLU””

namnibor

The $20 Million fraudster’s duties included oversight of the Army’s efforts to build and modernize its information and communication networks, an indictment said.

With the VA and it’s corruption meeting DoD IT Systems….what could POSSIBLY go wrong?

OLDMARINE

Fulton was an officer for ‘a large defense contracting company

The firm is not named in the court records…..WHY NOT

namnibor

I am going out on a limb here and guessing when the IT Contractor’s Co. name is disclosed, it will be one of the many IT Co.’s the VA has used or is still using or plan to utilize. Wait for it…

ANutterVet

The VA can bring out the Best and worst, in any thing. – – – What no body up, eves dropping tonight? I eee . . ., y’all are out there. Don’t forget this is Friday, and new articles only on weekdays, unless its a makeup or an extra, or neither. Who’s up tonight? On the other side? Or, see ya on Monday with the new article. L8r, – – – Nutter.

namnibor

“In an age of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”-George Orwell

Ex va

@ANutterVet, i am up but i am sick. don’t know how long i can be on here. Sorry, you are still having troubles with the va.

cj

@Ex va: Ex, sorry you have been sick, hope you get well soon. I left a comment about what messenger I found. Will wait to hear from you after you get well.

Ex va

@cj, what messenger? Let me know. Ok. It is just some of the normal stuff i go thru i think.

cj

@Ex va: It is called “wire” you can install it through the app store for you tablet or iphone. My username is cj59.

Ex va

@cj, thanks, got it.

cj

@Ex va: Once you open it check everything out, so it isn’t intimidating to you, I is pretty straight forward, with menu’s at the top etc.

This COPD has been woopin my ass the past few days, okay during the day, then nights suck. Don’t know what is setting it off. I need to look into it more, I am wondering if allergies, or maybe it is one of my meds.

cj

@Ex va: Ex, I need to try and sleep while I am nodding out, Talk soon, goodnight and God Bless.

Ex va

@cj, God Bless.

Rich B

Sure its free as long as someone else pays for it!!!!!!!

Ex va

@Rich B, you ever heard of scholarships or grants?

Jo3n
Honestly, I’m quite sure the VA with all their perhaps right, perhaps wrong diagnosis, has left me, I may not be able to adjust to change, the kind each Veteran, and most Americans are experiencing today. For so long, the VA has had a big part of leading me on………………………………………. There’s so many Veterans…. too many Veterans, just can’t quite rid the experiences and the VA mental health care is a straight up joke. Point being, for me, going to… Read more »
ANutterVet
@Ben – – – I think what Jo3n is saying, and right to do so, is that you’re being watched by your subordinates. Some of them. There might be so-called trolls online. Why shit yeah there are trolls online, what are you talking about? Listen to what just came to my thought . . . , I just may have to think of a CLUSTERFUCK and put it in the face of the VA. Anyone have any suggestion? Its hurting… Read more »
figure8fan
ANutterVet, I was prescribed the lidocaine patches for my knees. They did not help; however, they did work good on my lower back. It sometimes gives me fits and I put on e of these on and it did help with the pain. Don’t know if this is something your PCP will prescribe and/or if it would help but the prescription strength patch is much more than the OTC type. I have some left and put one on if my… Read more »
ANutterVet
@figure8fan – – – VA PCP prescribed me the Lidocaine Patch for my back, but it doesn’t stick. My VA PCP sent me a letter, and instead of taking the defective product back, they expect me to put tape of the patch, and then try to put the patch on. Problem is, this bullshit will require me to twist my lower lumbar area of my back, bingo, flare up or pain up. The product is defective. My VA PCP’s Nurse… Read more »
figure8fan
ANutterVet, They wanted me to tape these patches to my knees. They even sent me 4 inch wide tape. I asked how am I to tape a 4 inch by 5 inch patch to my knees and make it stay? They told me to tape it “somewhere around the knee and it will do the same thing” What? My patches were made by Qualitest and they did seem to stick on my lower back. I did put it on about… Read more »
figure8fan

ANutterVet,
Have you also noticed how the VA pushed a pill or product on you that “will definitely” work and then when it does not, they tell you “Yeah, we know that would not work”. They must get a kickback for prescribing those things. They know what they are doing does not work and/or help. They don’t care, it is something that they can throw at you and keep you quiet for a month or so.
f8f

lily

Sounds good if you can handle living in that -40 degree weather.

Dennis
My family in Oregon growing up did not follow a Christian tradition in the home. Our inspirational lives were nurtured mostly the same way with a slightly different recipe. We had only one thing up on the wall with words on it in this regard. It was a small tapestry. It said, You see things as they are and ask, “why”? I dream things that never were and ask, “why not”? I dream of a day when all these lawyers… Read more »
Crazy elf

Here’s something good news. I received it last night around 8 pm.
From: “Judicial Watch” June 9, 2017, 5:34 pm
Titled:
“Veterans Affairs Sued For Info on Homeless Vets Plan”

“Judicial Watch’s v. U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (No. 1:17-cv-00994)”

It concerns the property out in West Los Angeles, Brentwood, California.
That 338 acres of land which was “deeded to homeless veterans” for eternity. And the VA decided to fuck veterans out of it!
Well, NOT so fast, says Judicial Watch!

touchavet@gmail.com
[email protected]

how wonderful how all these offers pop up after the Viet Nam vets reach an age were they are not only unemployable but to old to remember what they went to school for

Jake
This is not news Ben and has a ring of fake news. Every state school covers 100% tuition for any degree if you have the post 9/11 GI Bill. That means if you can get into UCLA, UC Berkley, UMich, Penn, etc. it is all free. Also many private Universities have unlimited yellow ribbon such as Stanford, Georgetown, NYU, Columbia, etc. which also means 100% tuition covered. Other private schools have partial yellow ribbon which means the VA will cover… Read more »
namnibor

Pretentious gurgle?

ANutterVet

@Jake – – – Hey, part of your last sentence, ” . . . makes it look like the university is doing Veterans a favor when the opposite is true.”

Jake, this makes it sound like that Ben don’t care about Veterans? WTF?

jake

The point is that the article makes it look like this unique law school is doing some special when the opposite is true. If you go to a Tier 4 school to train as a lawyer it is very difficulty to find a job and you wasted 3 years of your life and your gi bill. I am not sure why Ben recommend this Tier 4 school when there so many better options out there.

Dina Padilla
Sorry to say there are many attorneys out of school complaining of not being able to find work. But THEY could change their ideas of who to work for and what causations to pursue and file lawsuits on behalf of veterans and civilians who cannot get real medical care and also file suits on all the meds that are pushed onto patients only to change them again per drug manufacturer making new meds to make more billions a year. And… Read more »
Dennis
Let me pose a thought for the day. Congress has told us VA lied about treatment delays and ommisions. They are investigating this. The President says VA is corrupt. They are investigating this. VA Director says we need to spend billions cataloging veterans DNA. They are investigsting this. Everyone is any position of authority acknowledges VA over-prescribe opiates and opiod drugs and many vets and others have died of overdose as a direct result. Many more are forever physiologically dependent… Read more »
namnibor
@Dennis: “[…Question of the day; Why are we not investigating the stomach contents of the 22 per day to see what sort of glorious psychiatric VA cocktail the first year resident who graduated with a D average from Buhdapest Southwest Mother of the Sacred Goat University…]” Lost my coffee to my nasal cavity and thrust in high velocity laughter onto my screen. Grew-up on a farm and very familiar with the antics of goats. Thanks, I needed those endorphins and… Read more »
141FE
That was a great turn of phrase. Well apparently it’s the same BS while still in service. I repeatedly complained of side effects from my multiple medications and asked to see an endocrinologist – instead the Flight Surgeon sent me for a sleep study, waste of tax payer dollars. After seeing 3 physicians on base – I found out I was pre-diabetic from the base pharmacist. Then I discover two more facts. One the high dose of statin I was… Read more »
cj
@Dennis: Dammt man,,,,,that is exactly the University, my last PCP graduated from. At first I thought it was one of those souvenir mini bear skin rugs hanging on the wall. But upon closer inspection, it was a genuine goatskin certificate from Budapest Southwest Mother of the Sacred Goat University!!! Oh how proud she was standing there, chest pushed out, big smile, as she handed over a new script of powdered Fentanyl, to be used as fairy dust. The diections on… Read more »
cj

Sorry just woke up and not thinking clearly.

They should also be held accountable for no treatment whatsoever, as well, for the 22 per day, as it has been reported they did seek out, but were denied help/treatment.

Seymore Klearly

I think your right Dennis. Someone should investigate this or at least investigate the investi-gators.

Seymore Klearly

Sorry that last word should be “investor-gators”

Seymore Klearly
Been doing some digging around and found that back when Trump was catching BS for not listing the Veterans Charities that he donated to. The last one he did donated $75k to was “The Foundation for American Veterans”. The Foundations founder is Robert McDonald. The foundations forms 990 are accessible at “https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/383214263” An article on the subject is at “https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/31/one-group-trump-donated-to-benefits-fundraisers-not-veterans/?utm_term=.f41c133e4394” Also found a great episode of CNBC’s American Greed Season 8 Episode 14 Hail to the Thief “https://view.yahoo.com/show/american-greed/episode/60430793/hail-to-the-thief” It is… Read more »
OLDMARINE

Robert McDonald…claimed he worked at that foundation 50 hours a week in 2015 what a joke…thief’s in action

ANutterVet
Over ten (10) business days ago, I notified the VA Patient Advocate that my current VA PCP was relieved from medically treating me. Then a get a medical order by the VA PCP in whom I relieved of duties, send me a notice that not only are we reducing your pain medication amount, but the VA wants me weaned off of them, and then forcing me to take SSRI’s for chronic, moderate, and acute pain, muscle spasms, migraines, and PTSD… Read more »
Scott K
Good Evening Sir , For my own curiosity What the Code of Federal Regulation Reads about Service Connected Rating and what Is the critaria for a Service Connecting rating to reduced or what the VA wants to cut Individual Unemployment The VA proposed Budget pertaining Individual Unemployability stated The Agency being the VA can not cut a Service Connected Disability rating unless there is Improvement. Federal Regulation 3.951 . The VA Director and the rest of his thugs that are… Read more »
Dennis
Scott you inadvertantly bring up the most salient point about VA plans to curtail IU benefits. Perry Mason might argue something like this; A Vet is rated at 60% and has a right at any time to appeal that rating because under current law a vet is compensated for current severity of the condition and not the severity as it occured. So long anyway as the injury was at least aggravated by military service. No such thing in a VBA… Read more »
Katrina Love

Any advice if you already have a Masters in Counseling what law schools offer programs for just veterans law? Just curious. If I knew then what I know now I would have became a lawyer just to fight the mess the VA deals.

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