White House

While the David Shulkin confirmation yesterday was no surprise, the simultaneous White House veteran “listening session” raised some eyebrows by excluding vet orgs.

Following what was described as a “breezy” confirmation hearing, David Shulkin MD was confirmed to lead VA yesterday. During the hearing last week, Shulkin seemingly rejected President Donald Trump’s position on allowing all veterans to choose where they get their health care but he maintained some degree of agreement on Trump’s 10-point VA reform plan.

Shulkin also seemed to support the tight relationship between VA and the traditional veteran organizations (Disabled American Veterans, American Legion, Veterans Of Foreign Wars all aka Iron Triangle) that have largely rejected Concerned Veterans For America (CVA) because of the organization’s support of full choice for health care, not just the present and limited Veterans Choice Program.

Background On Anti-Choice For Veterans (Not To Be Confused With Abortion)

For some background, traditional veteran organizations have existed for many decades and generally support expansion of VA services, union jobs, and spending, which pits them against expansion of full choice. This group tends to be “Democrat” in party alliance.

Under their watchful eye in the past decade, we saw an explosion of the wait list scandal where hundreds of veterans were killed by execution of a fraud scheme. We saw a ballooning of disability compensation backlog. We saw the rise in veteran suicides. And we saw countless fraud and scandal go largely unchecked by leaders in position of authority under both Democrat and Republican administrations.

Though VA scandals are nothing new, and they have largely spanned the past 80 years since the Veterans Administration was created during the New Deal expansion of the 1930’s.

The general argument against full choice for veterans is supported by Democrat-leaning special interests including the traditional veteran organizations and unions.

The interesting irony of this position is that Democrats strongly believe a woman should be able to choose what to do with her body, including seeking medical help from a doctor of her choosing to abort a fetus.

Meanwhile, many of those same Democrats align against a disabled veteran having a choice to seek the medical care they are guaranteed from doctor of their choosing. Instead, if they seek the benefits guaranteed by service including healthcare, they must use a VA doctor at a VA facility.

The argument against allowing veterans to received non-VA care is that it will remove some financial resources from VA and negatively impact the veterans who choose to only receive VA care.

I disagree with this argument and believe veterans should have a choice and that VA should be forced to compete for resources by putting the needs of veterans first (to include the need to select the doctor you want), not to be confused with the needs of special interest groups who oppose choice for veterans.

Sometimes, these two groups – – veterans vs the special interest groups – – have competing goals, which includes not necessarily putting the needs of veterans ahead of putting more money in their own coffers. That is how I see it.

These groups, excluding CVA, seemed to be getting their way after the election despite promises from President Trump to put a reformer into lead VA.

The only hang up now was the President’s refusal to have an audience with the Iron Triangle after his election while his team assessed the needs of veterans. He instead sent the traditional vet orgs to speak with his transition team.

That aside, Trump’s selection of Shulkin was seen as a compromise by largely retaining the same team put in place by former President Barack Obama.

So, the traditional veteran organizations won, so they thought.

Not So Fast On White House Listening Session

That was until the White House announced its “listening session” with veterans that excluded the traditional veteran orgs that started just before the Shulkin confirmation, yesterday.

While the Iron Triangle was stuck watching Shulkin get confirmed, President Trump had a meeting underway about next steps with the VA to which they were not invited.

The decision was likely made because of the anti-Trump position taking by traditional veteran orgs during the election cycle and while the transition team tried to find a replacement to lead the agency.

If his treatment of the press is any indication of how Trump treats groups that oppose his presidency, the Iron Triangle should expect a cold shoulder for the near future while organizations supporting full choice, like CVA, get a front seat.

That meeting consisted of a different group of veterans and advocates including hospital executives that excluded the press.

The President reportedly passed on the traditional photo ops with veterans during the meeting by kicking out the press, which is something of a regularity over the past few weeks. Now, traditional veteran orgs can join the club.

Toby Cosgrove, Cleveland Clinic CEO, was in attendance at the meeting. He said the discussion ranged “from governance to modernization to accountability across the organization.”

Toby Cosgrove was a top pick to lead VA before suddenly removing himself from contention.

Kellyann Conway, a top Trump advisor, said the President’s meeting was a “very productive conversation.”

David Shulkin was also there for a little while before the confirmation hearing, but none of the traditional veteran orgs were invited.

Behind The Scenes

I initially had serious reservations about Shulkin’s selection in light of the President’s strong position and promise to pick a reformer.

Instead, Shulkin seemed to support the status quo of submitting to union leadership, traditional veteran orgs whims, and government contractor demands ahead of veterans.

My initial conclusion may be quite true, but a bigger plan may be afoot.

A reliable source informed me that David Shulkin’s selection was a compromise with various Senators to help streamline approval of President Trump’s more controversial Cabinet selections.

I can say unequivocally that one of those nominees is none other than Jeff Sessions to lead the Department of Justice.

Now, what could Sessions do about the VA accountability problem?

VA Accountability Problem

As you may recall, numerous VA executives and leaders were implicated in agency investigations ranging from fraud to possible negligent manslaughter over the past two years while the Department of Justice did little to nothing by way of prosecuting the wrongdoers.

While then-Secretary McDonald said you could not fire your way to greater accountability, you can certainly prosecute fraud to ensure greater accountability.

If you do not, you will encourage the same scandalous behavior that let to VA winning the award in 2016 for being the most secretive agency or person in 2016.

I will say that again, VA was so corrupt and fought transparency so hard, that it won the Golden Padlock Award in 2016 from a major journalist organization.

Here are a few examples.

Remember Kim Graves and Diana Rubens, the two women who rigged the system as senior VA officials who pushed out two of their subordinates so they could retire in the locations of their choosing while also fraudulently receiving moving bonuses to take the orchestrated demotions?

Gen. Allison Hickey (ret) and Danny Pummill both resigned in the wake of their scandal as it unfolded for knowing about it and even taking steps to facilitated the moves.

No one was prosecuted. Graves and Rubens kept their jobs after a scuffle with the agency that really went nowhere. Despite evidence of fraud, the agency was unable to fire the duo because their superiors were implicated in the scheme but not punished.

Then there is the infamous wait list scandal first exposed in 2014.

Over 200 veterans were killed due to wait time manipulation fraud where patients were denied access to VA healthcare to help VA leadership get fraudulent bonuses.

No one was prosecuted for the deaths, including Sharon Helman, though she was prosecuted for failing to report kickbacks from a government contractor.

Then there is the National Vietnam Veterans Foundation scandal.

One VA attorney, J Thomas Burch, Jr, ran the sham nonprofit while working as a high-level VA attorney. His operation investigated and shut down last year. Despite confirming various allegations of wrongdoing, Burch was allowed to retire.

Burch was not just any attorney. He was the head of integration between Department of Homeland Security and VA.

He was a high-level VA attorney who used VA resources to further his nonprofit that in turn earned a “worst” rating from a leading nonprofit evaluation organization.

Burch’s nonprofit repeatedly raised million each year while only donating a few thousand to veterans. The majority of the money was retained by the robot fundraising company Burch hired to robo-dial donors.

RELATED: VA Attorney Allowed To Retire Despite Sham Charity

No one was held accountable within VA, at least in the manner any normal civilian would be held accountable for the same or similar wrongdoing.

Veterans voted for change when they voted for Trump. Part of that hope is for a strong prosecutor to go after corrupt federal employees rather than letting them off the hook by allowing them to simply retire.

These same veterans were largely disappointed with President Obama’s lack of prosecution of wrongdoers in the agency and federal government, more generally.

Curiously, despite rampant scandals, the Obama White House prosecuted fewer public corruption cases than the previous two presidential administrations despite having some of the largest scandals.

Rep. Matt Salmon, an Arizona Republican and member of the House Freedom Caucus, said highlighted this unusual pattern under Obama in an interview with The Daily Caller.

“What’s really interesting is that corruption is not a partisan issue,” Salmon told TheDCNF. “Republicans, Democrats, independents all demand integrity in their government. Yet during this administration, we’ve seen Fast and Furious, we are still waiting for answers on Benghazi, the IRS scandals, over and over and over again.”

He did not even call on DOJ to prosecute the Wall Street executives who trashed our economy in 2008 but ensured they received massive bailouts that led to incredible bonuses despite the crash.

The Administration seemed more concerned with prosecuting whistleblowers than any other group.

RELATED: Obama’s War On Whistleblowers

Can Sessions Fix VA Via Prosecutions?

Will Jeff Sessions do it?

Only time will tell, but I suspect we can only expect more accountability after eight years of little accountability under the previous Administration.

For the past decade, there have been whispers within the legal community that VA is a walking Civil RICO action waiting to happen – – maybe even an actual full blown RICO.

In 1970, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO for short), closed a perceived loophole that previously allowed superiors in a criminal organization to evade accountability when they ordered a subordinate to commit an unlawful act.

They evaded accountability because the superior did not actually commit the act in question that they ordered.

At the time, RICO was intended to prosecute organization crime syndicates like the New York Mofia, but use of the legal framework has been expanded.

Now, it is possible to prosecute a VA executive for orchestrating a criminal enterprise via conspiracy to retaliate against a whistleblower by concocting fictitious legal complaints against them for cooperating with the Office of Special Counsel or the VA Office of Inspector General.

One recent example is the whistleblower retaliation against Joseph Colon at San Juan VA in VISN 8 by director DeWayne Hamlin in 2013. Colon reported Hamlin for wrongdoing. Hamlin concocted a scheme whereby he unlawfully pressured a subordinate to falsify criminal allegations against Colon in retaliation,

Colon reported Hamlin for wrongdoing. Hamlin concocted a scheme whereby he unlawfully pressured a subordinate to falsify criminal allegations against Colon in retaliation, Rosayma Lopez.

Lopez refused, which resulted in Hamlin then retaliating against her using the same scheme of false allegations. When that did not work, he ultimately tried to pay her off inappropriately using facility funds to orchestrate her departure from the agency.

If Hamlin worked with another person in a conspiracy to engage in the unlawful acts, it is possible he could be prosecuted under RICO.

Just recently Hamlin was removed from federal service after a two-year investigation, but there is no word he will be charged criminally for his obvious and confirmed criminal acts.

Can Sessions fix VA by prosecuting wrongdoers?

I would think so, and maybe he should start by hammering Hamlin.

For decades, VA employees have evaded legal accountability because of significant prohibitions against suing individual VA employees in civil court under 38 USC § 511.

Perhaps replacing VA executives golden cufflinks with silver handcuffs might bring about a new set of reforms in the agency that veterans desperately need.


He did not even call on DOJ to prosecute the Wall Street executives who trashed our economy in 2008 but ensured they received massive bailouts that led to incredible bonuses despite the crash.$$$$$$$ thats because the bankers are the real WIZARD OF OZ that run our country. watch some of CATHERINE AUSTIN FITTS videos …

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Crazy elf
As we’ve all said, “Follow the Money!” I also agree, Shulkin will be an “Interim Substitute” until President Trump, or his ‘Team’, can find a person with balls. The corruption is very deep in VA and the VSO’s! Yet, the amount of fraud, waste and abuse is getting that light shined right on it! Remember, President Trump was pissed when the “Leftist News Organizations” called him out over the $6 million he raised. His answer, at the news conference, was… Read more »

By leaving the VSOs out of this meeting, he is getting advice on what to do to fix the VA without having to deal with some VSO organization running to Isaakson sniveling about a change they don’t like.

….and causing Isaakson to fall tits up off his Stairmaster.

James Gallegos

Thanks that last part made me laugh

Everyone – Democrats and liberals losing their minds. They are really out of the real reality. Nancy Pelosi does not even know who the President is. She still believes Mr. Bush is still president. Maxine Waters can’t even recall the facts. Lord help them. The Democrats do not know their heads from their feet. The VA is full of Democrats and liberals. I am praying everyday for positive change to occur in the VA. This is going to be the… Read more »

I would be concerned that we have a bully that is in bed with Putin.

Addendum to my comment. Democrats and liberals are not about law and order. They do what ever they want and when ever they want. They have no accountability. Only time they follow a law is the 38 USC € 511 which is the prohibition of suing the VA. They only follow the law when it benefits them. With Democrats and liberals there is no accountability. When a veteran has been slammed in past and if a veteran stands up for… Read more »
John Cokos

You have a very narrow parochial view of the problem. Your spending all your time and energy on the pointless distinctions of Democrats vs Republican’s. There is a SYSTEM out there that needs to be focused on.
I don’t give a rat’s behind for either of them. They are only of value for whatever you can get out of them for a particular issue, and then move on.
Your behind the curve.


Prohibitions against the suing of VA employees (statute 38 USC 500) needs to be modified or changed or eliminated. If this statute cannot be changed in any way to initiate accountability, then, all deserving veterans should be given a choice for their healthcare. Veterans are being treated like criminals.

Actually Angela, veterans are treated much worse than criminals. At least those in jail. Criminals in jail get 3 hot meals, a roof over their head and medical care for anything they want, including sex change operations in some states. All paid for by the taxpayers. If they don’t get the medical care they demand, they have the ability to sue, often with the help of a pro bono lawyer and a civil rights group like the ACLU. …and regardless… Read more »

I mistyped. In my comment, I meant 38 USC 511. In one comment, I put 38 USC 500 in one comment. I meant 38 USC 511. Yep, all are correct. Criminals do get treated better than veterans. As matter of fact, even add a college education to this list and retraining for when and if they get released. The list includes food, medical, a bed to sleep in, legal counsel, sex changes and the list even continues.


Guess we need to commit armed robbery or at least confess to one that has been committed in order to get a bed and treatment. Downside is we lose compensation so we have to keep doing that or be willing to do the homeless bit.

Your history is a little off, Ben: “Though VA scandals are nothing new, and they have largely spanned the past 80 years since the Veterans Administration was created during the New Deal expansion of the 1930’s.” Actually the VA was created under the Lincoln Administration. Not sure if it was completed before his assassination. The Hot Springs, SD VA Hospital was built to take care of Civil War Veterans who joined the Northern Army. They couldn’t be cared for in… Read more »

VA corruption has existed since the Revolutionary War.

Veterans traveling home from the Civil War that were killed on the USS Main (river boat renamed but don’t recall the name) boiler explosion were denied benefits. Widows were denied compensation. So corruption with regard to veterans has existed since the inception of the United States and the inception of the VA. More than 200 years for the U S and more than 150 years for the VA.


The “General Argument” against Choice is more related to “curtailing entitlements” than consolidating union care. This comes from both sides of the isle and is engendered by lobbyists who want more budget money available to the military industrial complex and upper echelon tax relief.

The biggest lobbyist group against VA Choice and Clinic expansion is the Pharmaceutical lobby. They desire to maintain a maximum pool of human resources for experimental drug trials. Downsizing the VA hospitals connected to University Medical Schools (VA LA used to be called the West Los Angeles Veterans Administration Medical and Research Center). Both sides of the isle respond to this lobby. Former Senator Daschle let the pharmaceutical lobby write the VA portion of the ACA which assigns veterans to… Read more »
On the claims side the biggest scandal is right at the top the Court and Board. When a vet files an appeal we receive a truck load of advertisements from lawyers promising the moon, many claiming to have worked for the Board or OGC in the past but have had their Jesus moment. Many later return to the dark side. One scam used is to get the appeal at the court remanded after a conference where the OGC and said… Read more »

Your post makes me wonder, are some lawyers providing a little compensation for a quick decision?

James Gallegos

I believe you may be on to something. I am hoping not. This put a sinking feeling in my stomach.

Pay to play

John Cokos

Good research point. That little tactic should be expanded on and see if there isn’t a workaround for it. The Bar Card Mafia. Perhaps go after “The Card’ of the offending miscreant ? A little blood in the water for the rest of them to see.


Glad to see “accountability” was discussed.

It is pretty bad when they involved the IG in their scheme to retaliate against whistleblowers with concocted schemes. And when a whistleblower goes through the EEOC and MSPB process, they use the legal system to obfuscate your claims by fraud and misrepresentation to the court. State bars won’t even hear your complain against VA attorneys and that douchebag Carlton Hadden at the Office of Federal Operations, because they are exempted from the Administrative Procedures Act. Clearly a RICO scheme… Read more »
John Cokos

Just off the top on the APA, they have their own administrative courts and a separate channel for a “Internal Affairs Complaint” that you can use to interrupt an action that can challenge Jurisdiction and standing.
All of this put’s you in the Tall Grass and your own your own.


With all due respect, your advice Ben on not confusing the VHA with abortion is off target. VA is clearly an abortion that lived.


Plus, silver handcuffs are much less effective than boot leather when inserted into the proper opening,


Good one ! and very accurate Dennis! A two headed wilderbeast . The OIG shield is officially meaningless and a disgrace and VHA is really VAH aka Virtual ASS HATS.


aka Vindictive Ass Hats (VAH)


Dennis are you sure it is not the after birth.

Crazy elf
Here’s another take on Shulkin’s appointment. It’s from, “military.com/Daily News” via “Stars and Stripes” by Nikki Wentling, 7 Feb. 2017. Titled: “Senate Committee Approves Shulkin’s Nomination for VA Secretary” In the article, it’s points out, Shulkin’s ideas of how to run the VA is going to run into problems, sooner or later, with the President’s 10 point plan (paraphrasing)! Especially when it comes to the “Choice Program”! I agree with Ben’s assessment over why Shulkin was an appointee. President Trump… Read more »
John Cokos

Your post sounds like Republican Talking Point’s. You still don’t get “it” do you ? Your screwed by either outcome. How is any of that going to benefit you or me ? As for Alex Jones insights into the way things work, He’s is the equivalent of picking peanuts out of Turd, you have to really like peanuts.


Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t.

Crazy elf
@John Cokos Evidently your “one sided view” of other news sources is mistaken for what the truth is. David Knight brought it out of three ‘Muslim brothers” (and one female) who may have been responsible for that failed raid recently. This “source” isn’t the only one talking about it. As far as believing in something. Why don’t you help fight against the corruption, instead of helping it along! The three major VSO’s, mentioned in Ben’s blog, are also responsible for… Read more »
Ex va

@ namnibor, ROFL!!!

John Cokos
Well, where do you start on a story like this ? The Animal Farm quote about all pig’s being equal but some pigs are more equal than others. It looks like there are two distinct vet’s camp’s involved, and both of them are mired down in the muck of personal politics. Who are the 80% of veterans who voted for Trump ? Was it the carefully vetted “Veterans Organization’s” that Trump donated 6 Million dollars of front money to, largely… Read more »

Remote the VA from a cabinet level position. (States Rights)
VA history: “https://www.va.gov/about_va/vahistory.asp”




Right on Dennis, another VHA surgical blunder. Do you think, at our advanced age, we’ll ever see a SUCCESSFUL re-birth of VHA???????????


@Hondo — The VA would never have a “re-birth”, it would most certainly be more of a “regurgitation”. 🙂


Your post smacks of the Democratic Carter days! I KNEW that unchewed peanuts in shit would come up in this blog given enough time! After all, many of us never graduated past the need to giggle over a really good wedgie given.

Why don’t you go Go pick on the corn farmers damn you man??? Now I am all upset… Time to smoke a joint – the Obama Legacy.




This blog has it all; from unchewed peanuts in shit to flying monkeys. Could they be related?


Only if those monkeys start flinging it.




Except in Church I never really heard about rebirth. Just after birth.


There is an upside to your article Ben, The VA won an award for something


..and Obama got the Nobel Prize for whirled peas or something too, right?


@Dennis — “whirled peas prize”….LMAO! 🙂

“[Perhaps replacing VA executives golden cufflinks with silver handcuffs might bring about a new set of reforms in the agency that veterans desperately need.]” Those silver handcuffs will need to be retrofitted with same technology utilized in dog anti-bark electrical shock collars and fenceless perimeter collars so that anytime their ratty hands come remotely close to the Veteran Cookie Jar or any Veteran, it sends high amperage/volts through those silver handcuffs to keep them in line. That goes for all… Read more »
Breaking News: Satan and the AFGE struck a renegotiated contract that allows VA Upper Management SES Employees to assimilate amongst the fiery depths of Hell. AFGE Union Dues will be paid via community torture sessions 24/7. This eliminates the divide between lower/upper management in Hell. Same degrees of Hell, no more levels of hell…Dante was very wrong. If you have golden parachutes, better replace them with asbestos. 🙂 Jeff Sessions is coming for YOU…. 🙂 ‘Hells Bells’, by AC/DC “I’m… Read more »
rick b
As Long as I can remember, the VA is full of scandal. Sure it has gotten worse over the last 8-12 years but it has always been there. I don’t know if Sessions will prosecute more VA officials I hope he does but that remains to be seen. As to Veterans organizations not being allowed in… I say Great! Its a step in the right direction. While I really think most Veteran service officers at the local level try hard… Read more »
If it were not for community projects or involvement by the VFW, Legion or others, the VSOs would dwindle away to nothing. I joined VFW and DAV as a life member in honor of a WWII veteran neighbor because back then, the VFW was a very strong community presence, and a strong advocate for veterans in Congress. I joined the DAV as a life member because the VSO I used years ago was a Vietnam or Korea vet who actually… Read more »
A problem with the VSOs is “their war”. And they see other veterans competing for “their funds.” I also joined the DAV as a life member when represented by a caring member. But I have nothing to do with them since the increase in the Commander’s compensation was increased so drastically and they decided only veterans with purple hearts need apply for representation. There was all read a “Purple Heart” VSO. The ability to pay such huge salaries to the… Read more »
Crazy elf
One night, right after the November election, the wife and I met some American Legion VSO’s at a steak house. Every one voted for Trump. They were excited about it, also. One even said they were going against National. They said all their members were for Trump’s election. I know that’s only on chapter. Yet, it was confirmed by these individuals, the majority of chapter members nationwide were for Trump. Basically, telling National to fuck off! So, maybe it’s true… Read more »
@Crazy elf — Just as it is with the upper management @ VA and lack of accountability that trickles downward amongst the ‘great’ employees, am thinking it’s the same with the dinosaur VSO’s. Their upper management is so entrenched with both the VA and AFGE that their original ‘mission’ has been compromised. Good to hear that some of the Chapters voted against National. I still will not afford my $$$ support via membership for *any* VSO Group. I rather support… Read more »
Crazy elf

Maybe we might luck out on the “Strike” all those butthurt liberal snowflakes are talking about.
Wouldn’t it be great to see VA employees walking out the door!?
That would really put the squeeze on the AFGE.

Crazy elf

Not allowing the VSO’s in really made my day.

I saw all I need to know about national VSO officers when I went to that bullshit Legion Save Our System town hall last year. I emailed that national officer again asking him why I hadn’t heard from him. His response was he thought my problem had been dealt with. He wanted my information emailed to him again because he was going in to a meeting with McDonald the next morning. I emailed him what he wanted, and never heard… Read more »
James Gallegos

As stated before I went to the DAV in my local small town and the paperwork was sent to the employee doing the false reporting.

The employees not only answered the inquire. She hired the DAV rep as a patient representative.

Nice job DAV !

james gallegos
I have stated that I contacted Senator’s Bennett’s Constituent Advocate. This person only accepted my cover sheet and not the whole file of evidence. Was told by the Aid that she was Afraid that the cover sheet would end up being seen by the Employee who made the False allegation’s of Disruptive Behavior. Why did the Aid say this and why did she not take all the evidence. Was told she would contact another Advocate in Colorado springs. The Aid… Read more »

Denver senior staff renewal not surprising. They have supervisory control of Cheyenne and other areas outside Denver. Too many complaints. Suspect Shulkin had them on his list from complaints he was unable to do anything about because of political considerations. The congressman or congressmen for the area were probably changed last election. They have a say in those appointments.

Thanks for the info James. Its good to hear how Bennett’s office might handle this. As for what happens, I would push for a meeting with you, Bennetts aide and someone from Denver VARO. And a witness. I would record the meeting citing your TBI as a need. I would explain what this act has done to you, and what you want to correct it. I would also request a letter stating you are not considered disruptive, and ask the… Read more »
James Gallegos

Thanks. I am going to take 3 packets. One evidence on the disruptive committee.

One with all the evidence proving the traumatic brain injury.

One requesting that they help me with my clear and unmistakable error on part of the VA.

Try to kill 3 bird’s with 3 stones. LoL


Brutal honesty here;

I have been at the receiving end of some real jack ass behaviour by men in little outfits and funny hats who without any question are given free run inside VA. Real pricks. I too was glad on that level that these bought and paid for men who disgrace themselves thusly were not let in to “clear the air” with their old man butt smell.

Semper Fi

Crazy elf

I’ve also ran into some real asswipes of VSO’s at VHA’s.
They don’t give a shit about veterans!


@Dennis – Asinine Buttfarting Baboons [ABA]

Ex va

@ ANutterVet, the smell !!! Ughhh!!


@Ex va – I know, due to the toxic gas given off, I typed ABA instead of ABB. Geesh! Stinky stoned again. The syndrome referred to as the Circle Jerk Effect.

James Gallegos

Dennis in Colorado they are going to make it So PTSD will be a legal condition for getting their medication at a lower price.

Go ahead and ? one.

Crazy elf

If y’all are wondering how the confirmation hearing is going. Check this out;
“Golden State Time” (an alternative news station!)
Google this;

“LIVE STREAM: Senate VOTE on Confirmation of Jeff Sessions for Attorney General”

Check out the live stream comments section. There’s NO Censorship, PERIOD! It’s believed the vote will be tomorrow night.

james gallegos
How many of you have contacted your Senator or congressman to complain about the VA lately. We must do this and remind them of the Holman Rule and we expect them to follow this Rule to get ride of Bad employees. We only have 1 year to get action, each day that passes by is one day less you have to get any results. The Secretary of the VA also has to be bombarded with letters and emails and phone… Read more »
John Cokos
I used to do that YEARS ago. The vet’s reps that generally handle those type of inquiries consider you a third rail not to go near for fear of blow back from the Agencies and the VSO’s. As the reps are usually retired military with connections to VSO’s and don’t want to rock the boat as far as funding might go for these positions. Get the picture ? I had a barn burner of a request for documents from a… Read more »
james gallegos

To day is A New Day, Try, Try Again. OR Just give up ! That’s up to you. I say Never give up ! If your tired and need Rest, Just Remember one day you will be able to Rest for eternity and no more chances to get heard.

Ben, this is one of the best articles of yours that I have ever read. You seriously need to shop this around as an editorial to major newspapers. From the top. I am very happy this meeting occured leaving the VSOs out. This tells me Trump recognizes the VSOs as having interests other than what their charter states, and he wants unbiased advice on what to do to reform the VA. This news is VERY encouraging. You make a very… Read more »
James Gallegos
I agree with you and Ben. I was watching the news interview freshmen senators and one from the southern part of the country was a lawyer. Like Ben ! He told the story about how he and other’s did a sting on their elected officials and it concerned senator’s and other’s. Some from out of state and caught them taking bribes. 12 I believe. They were prosecuted. That person is the type of person we want to run this country.… Read more »

For All – The Holman Rule is a rule in the United States House of Representatives that allows amendments to appropriations legislation that would reduce the salary of or eliminate specific federal employees, or cut a specific program.


John Cokos

The VA has ALL the elements of RICO. It should have been charged with that act years ago. Why wasn’t it ? Don’t expect Trump/Sessions to go down that road.

VSO’S being left out…a good thing. All this Democrat/Republican stuff don’t mean crap. Jeff Sessions is NOT the man…. I’m unsure about all of this. Another waiting game. We shall see. @Ben, Over the past few days, I reread all your articles and Veterans posts. Looks like most of us want the same thing. We want to be treated with respect and proper care. We are not receiving either from the VA. We ask for accountability, the VA has none.… Read more »
Don Karg
02/08/2017 Dear Benjamin Krause, Benjamin Krause states; “Under their watchful eye in the past decade, we saw an explosion of the wait list scandal where hundreds of veterans were killed by execution of a fraud scheme. We saw a ballooning of disability compensation backlog. We saw the rise in veteran suicides. And we saw countless fraud and scandal go largely unchecked by leaders in position of authority under both Democrat and Republican administrations.” This is a crime. This is homicide.… Read more »

@Don, in defense of Ben, and he doesn’t need one, he has awakened many Veterans to the atrocities committed by the VA. Without choosing Republican or democrat, I am extremely grateful for his continuous struggle. Don, I agree with everything else you said. We Veterans, mostly, aren’t doing enough. I wasn’t an officer, and I am not a leader. What do you suggest I do? Thank you Don…


I read Don’s remarks differently. He justly highlighted Benjamin’s primary point and seems to have an unstated opinion as to whether the appointment of Attorney General Sessions was good or bad. I can’t read his mind on that.

Don Karg
02/07/2017 Dear Lem, Thank you. During the Fight with Aerospace in 1988, everyone at the Alpine Village, Torrance, CA, many “non-citizens” who opposed our existence still had the ability & courage to say, “Do the right thing!” As I stood outside the Conference Doors in the Basement of the Carl Hayden VA Hospital after asking the New Secretary about the 293 Homicides at the Hospital over a hand shake [4 books of research handed off]—one Veteran who as sick to… Read more »
Don, I started a letter writing campaign in 1988 for veterans with organic brain syndromes caused by subtle TBIs, extensive exposure to heavy artillery and ship gun out going that bounces the soft cranial bone between the sinuses and the lower temporal lobe of the brain, and cerebral malaria (p. falciparum). When the letter writing campaign didn’t accomplish anything I went to DC in May of 1995, got a permit to demonstrate overlooking the Vietnam Memorial and after that didn’t… Read more »
Crazy elf

I just received a letter today from my little clinic. Moving my “PCP Appointment” from June 2017 to July 21, 2017!
Which means, the amount of time between my last appointment till my next appointment is roughly 10 or 11 months!
How’s that for expediency!
Isn’t getting any better down here in Florida!


@Crazy elf — But…down in Florida, you have that brand spanking new VAMC facility or is it just a home-base for a really swell golf course around the perimeter?

@Crazy elf – I’ve been hearing mixed reviews pertaining to some Veterans VA facilities are changing for the better. I hear what your saying, and let me tell you, if my local VA indicates that changes are taking place, I’ll definitely give a loud shout out. It’s kinda hard to believe that the VA would change so quickly, but hey, anything could be possible with the VA. May be? Can we change the volume of a post? I can’t wait… Read more »
@ANutterVet — The VA Labs have been fervently experimenting in anticipation of BIG $$$ Contracts for VA Telemedicine with several failed attempts at both “TastaVision” and the VA’s little beauty invented by an Infectious Disease Dr. in his garage in his spare time, called “VA SmellaVision”. The unfortunate mishaps with this new sensory technology ended with everything the VA pumped through “TastaVision” and “SmellaVision” all tasted and smelled like shit… RAND Corp. agrees that if it smells like shit it… Read more »

RAND and VAOIG are both happy though with their Hippovision testing going on at Tomah.

@Namnibor – A Sick Minded PRESS RELEASE – In case there is a catastrophe, and the sustainable food distribution has been severely effected, the VA has contracted with a chemical-food firm called, Bio-Poo. Bio-Poo produces a nutritious food alternative, that is made from the digested back end by-product of mammals [poo]. The product is marketed as Bio-Poo’s ‘Textured Food Bars,’ and it stimulates the act of Coprophagia [the consumption of feces dirt, doo-doo, dung, excrement, excreta, feces, ordure, poop, scat,… Read more »
@ANutterVet — “Bio-Poo Bars” will also have a rather enticingly bright orange glow to them, brought to you by the folks at Monsanto. No worries, BVA ‘Agent Orange Denier’ Murphy states these are perfectly fine for consumption during the VA Zombie Apocalypse and will be available at each Starbucks Coffee vendor at your friendly local VAMC lobby. Warning: Bio-Poo has not been found safe for non-human test subjects, but if it’s the VA Zombie Apocalypse, who cares, your stomach will… Read more »

@Namnibor – Right on Brother. Thanks for participating in Humor Night [the family of humorites]. I use to tick off the scholarly lab types who were so serious that jokes would fly way over the heads. LMAO, I almost peed ‘n pooed. Physical break, my stomach hurts from laughing.


Bio-Poo Bars can also be sprinkled around any vermin or pest nests you wish to exterminate. Very effective and kills anything that is NOT grass.

Update: A few batches of Bio-Poo Bars were released under the Monsanto Label of ‘Round-Up’ weed killer. No worries, it’s completely safe for grass.

The letter is a cause for applying for Choice. A 30 day delay in an appointment. I’d apply for Choice. In the least it would mean you would never again get a cancelled appointment and a 30 day delay. This is typical of kicking appointments down the road of short handed facilities. Your application for Choice will signal the necessity to hire and provide adequate staff. And the inadequate staff is probably the top dogs avarice towards staff. Or it… Read more »


Just when I thought the dude on my oatmeal tube was as pure as virgin snow, reality sets in….and an idea is born. Perhaps God himself inspires? At any rate, a study of just when congress decided to start allowing people to get away with wrongdoing reveals that such corruption goes WAYYYYY back. It also reveals in pure entymological terms God’s idea of how best to deal with the VA in my opinion. If an entire mob of us were… Read more »
@Dennis – I’m pleased to report sir, that many franchises have been finalized. Fortunately, all identities that purchased your services, are all ex-front line, lower-, middle-, and upper-management, and includes some ex-executive officers of the VA system. Sir, we project that the clean-up services will rapidly eradicate the corruption and theft problems that have plagued the VA Medical and Claims Services for decades. We will keep you updated with our progress due to the passage of the New War Law… Read more »

@Dennis — To avoid any unnecessary exposure of a Veteran to the VA, may I suggest that the poop canons be retrofitted to accommodate pitchforks and torches with option for poop as well as a deadly threesome? Flaming Poop Canons. Would be a beauty to watch. “Is that the northern lights, mommy”, “No, son, that’s just the flaming poop canons over the horizon draining the swamp.”


@Namnibor – Cover up, the downfall of the poo is a pouring out of the tubes of the retrofitted poop canons.