Documents leaked from the Department of Veterans Affairs show the agency is giving away over 160,000 square feet of office space to the union in hospitals nationwide.

When converted to rent at $20 per square foot each year, the total value is conservatively estimated to be $3.2 million per year, assuming the data is correct. When you include market rate plus utilities, the value of the space plus parking is likely much higher.

This information comes out on the heels of further details that VA coffers have been used to fund 1.1 million work hours paid for by taxpayers.

One whistleblower gave me a PDF chart of the total square footage allocation to unions within VA health care facilities nationwide about a month ago. I had a chance to synthesize the data – – number 1 and 11 on the list will surprise you.

According to the chart, the largest union office facility is over 7,000 square feet, located at Salem VA, in Virginia. The eleventh largest is surprisingly Tomah VA, in Wisconsin, at 2,500 square feet.

The union reps at Tomah VA enjoys more space than the union at Kansas City, Portland or Miami despite serving a substantially smaller veteran population.

How did that happen?

This information came out following revelations noted above about VA funding union activity totaling 1.1 million hours each year.

Even at the minimum wage, the value of the hours amounts to over $7 million per year in free hours donated to the union, possibly the most corrupt organization holding back progress within VA at this present time.

Now, we know these union lackies earn way more than minimum wage as federal employees. Realistically, they likely earn around $80,000 per year on average or $40 per hour. This would mean taxpayers fund union oriented work costing $40 million.

Top Ten States With Sizeable Union Space Allocations

As you will see below, there appears to be little correlation between union office size and the relative size of the local veteran population. Keep in mind, the largest populations of veterans exist in California, Texas, and Florida.

  1. New York            13,010
  2. California            11,615
  3. Ohio                   9,845
  4. Virginia               9,095
  5. Florida                7,444
  6. Pennsylvania       6,972
  7. Missouri              6,478
  8. North Carolina     6,460
  9. Texas                 6,093
  10. Illinois                5,674

Union Office Size By Facility

Take a look at the numbers below. Does anything jump out at you regarding allocation of square footage on the taxpayer dime?

Rank Facility Location State Net SqFt
1 Salem Virginia 7002
2 Chillicothe Ohio 4140
3 Baltimore HCS Maryland 4072
4 Salisbury North Carolina 4067
5 Brooklyn (OLD) New York 3042
6 Palo Alto California 2684
7 VA Puget Sound Washington 2631
8 VA Boston HCS Massachussetts 2584
9 Dayton Ohio 2563
10 Eastern KS HCS Kansas 2560
11 Tomah Wisconsin 2555
12 N. California California 2513
13 Captain James A Lovell FHCC Illinois 2334
14 Kansas City Missouri 2262
15 Mountain Home Tennessee 2142
16 St. Louis Missouri 2055
17 Long Beach California 2041
18 Greater Los Angeles HCS California 2041
19 Middle Tennessee HCS Tennessee 1912
20 Central Alabama Veterans HCS Alabama 1908
21 Cleveland Ohio 1893
22 Pittsburgh Pennsylvania 1834
23 VA Hudson Valley HCS New York 1813
24 Indianapolis Indiana 1769
25 Gainesville Florida 1728
26 Columbia Missouri 1715
27 Canandaigua New York 1705
28 Dallas Texas 1667
29 Detroit Michigan 1658
30 Tuscaloosa Alabama 1616
31 Northern Indiana HCS Indiana 1613
32 Lyons (OLD) New Jersey 1600
33 Western New York New York 1479
34 Augusta Georgia 1430
35 Bronx New York 1395
36 Washington District of Columbia 1345
37 Battle Creek Michigan 1334
38 New York Harbor HCS New York 1323
39 Beckley West Virginia 1322
40 Hampton Virginia 1313
41 Ann Arbor Michigan 1294
42 Togus Maine 1286
43 New Mexico HCS New Mexico 1280
44 Asheville North Carolina 1267
45 Muskogee Oklahoma 1260
46 Hines Illinois 1226
47 Sheridan Wyoming 1223
48 Danville Illinois 1200
49 Houston Texas 1194
50 Coatesville Pennsylvania 1179
51 Jackson Mississippi 1175
52 Reno Nevada 1167
53 Tampa Florida 1156
54 Northern Arizona HCS Arizona 1150
55 VA Connecticut HCS Connecticut 1121
56 Lebanon Pennsylvania 1112
57 Miami Florida 1087
58 Las Vegas Nevada 1080
59 Boise Idaho 1070
60 Little Rock Arkansas 1042
61 Portland Oregon 1039
62 San Antonio Texas 1037
63 Phoenix Arizona 1025
64 Cincinnati Ohio 1014
65 Albany New York 1000
66 Temple Texas 1000
67 Roseburg Oregon 992
68 Martinsburg West Virginia 983
69 Columbia South Carolina 973
70 Louisville Kentucky 964
71 Orlando Florida 961
72 Gulf Coast HCS Mississippi 957
73 New Jersey HCS New Jersey 940
74 Bay Pines Florida 933
75 Alexandria Louisiana 919
76 Atlanta Georgia 916
77 Wilmington Delaware 900
78 Huntington West Virginia 826
79 Lake City Florida 812
80 Sioux Falls South Dakota 804
81 Milwaukee Wisconsin 800
82 Minneapolis Minnesota 793
83 Bedford Massachussetts 786
84 Nebraska-W Iowa Nebraska 785
85 Richmond Virginia 780
86 San Francisco California 775
87 West Palm Beach Florida 767
88 Clarksburg West Virginia 755
89 Oklahoma City Oklahoma 743
90 San Diego California 739
91 Philadelphia Pennsylvania 727
92 Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania 727
93 Charleston South Carolina 723
94 New Orleans Louisiana 694
95 VA Central Western Massachusetts HCS Massachussetts 692
96 Black Hills HCS South Dakota 664
97 Jesse Brown VAMC (Chicago) Illinois 654
98 Altoona Pennsylvania 645
99 Loma Linda California 600
100 Fayetteville North Carolina 591
101 Bath New York 591
102 Lexington Kentucky 578
103 Memphis Tennessee 553
104 Central Iowa Iowa 552
105 Durham North Carolina 535
106 Fayetteville Arkansas 534
107 Southern Arizona HCS Arizona 534
108 Fargo North Dakota 519
109 Iron Mountain Michigan 512
110 Northport New York 490
111 Amarillo Texas 470
112 Saginaw Michigan 468
113 Walla Walla Washington 466
114 Northern Indiana HCS Indiana 458
115 Salt Lake City Utah 457
116 Manchester New Hampshire 453
117 Denver Colorado 450
118 Grand Junction Colorado 450
119 Montana HCS Montana 450
120 Poplar Bluff Missouri 446
121 Birmingham Alabama 425
122 Shreveport Louisiana 412
123 White River Junction Vermont 400
124 Butler Pennsylvania 399
125 Iowa City Iowa 398
126 St. Cloud Minnesota 366
127 Dublin Georgia 362
128 Wichita Kansas 360
129 Cheyenne Wyoming 358
130 Madison Wisconsin 354
131 Erie Pennsylvania 349
132 Spokane Washington 316
133 White City Oregon 314
134 VA Texas Valley Coastal Bend HCS Texas 280
135 El Paso Texas 275
136 Marion Illinois 260
137 Columbus Ohio 235
138 Anchorage Alaska 225
139 Fresno California 222
140 Syracuse New York 172
141 Big Spring Texas 170
142 Providence Rhode Island 50
143 Honolulu Hawaii 0
 Total Square Feet 162,332




This is exactly what the left wants. Their goal is to expand government and unions. Hopefully Trump stops this BS!

All of the left just love the feeding frenzy with the Russians. I hope they take the Russians hope for dinner and sleep with them since they love them so much. The fake feeding Russian frenzy that the corrupt Democrats is keeping going is all about their governing leadership style know as socialism – communism. Sabatoge. This is also the VA leadership managing style. Same as exactly what the Democrats are doing to Republicans, Trump, and American Trump supporters. Yep,… Read more »

Reason why I say nobody will be working and paying taxes is, the big government and unions will not be able to hold up because big government salaries come from taxpayer dollars. We will collapse. These liberals, Democrats and leftists do not see the whole picture. My hat is off to them but they will get a fooling probably due to country’s collapse or the Second Coming of Christ.

Crazy elf
@Angela, Yep, the “extreme Leftist RADICALIZED Snowflake Dumpocraps” haven’t really thought out what’s going to happen when there are no more taxpayers! Also, that Russian crap is really getting old. Have you seen the pictures of Schumer, and other Democrats, having coffee and donuts at “Krispi Kreme” a few years ago. He was making plans over some business deals with —- wait for it——— Vladimir Putin! Yep, Schumer got caught Lying his rear off. Putin’s expression is priceless! Or, how… Read more »
Ben, I think your 7million dollar figure might be a we bit off, considering there is an er doctor that is being payed over 250,000.00 per year alone, that works at the lovell FHCC in Illinois, that spends 100% of his time on union business. How many more just like this doctor? Then for the true cost, add what his replacement is payed, since he is not doing what he was hired to do. In the last oversight hearings they… Read more »

Why is this spsce donated for veteran usesge insteaf of low life union employees?

I forgot we are just resourse to foll fill the coffers of all the entrenched organizations that want nothing more than to control vets.

Ex va
This article does not have much shock value to me it just makes me sick. This space should be paid by the unions to have any square footage on station in a medical center or clinic. I do not understand how they are allowed to conduct union business during business hours? They are not allowed to use va computers for union business, so how are they allowed the office space? What the hell do they do to warrant this office… Read more »
Exva, I had much the same questions below. $3.2 million is just the tip of the iceberg in the swamp. In answer to your question, yes, an employee is paid whatever they are paid as salary, and then they are often paid by the union. It might depend on the union that determines how much they are paid. In addition, the union will also pay for any travel, lodging or meals if they travel somewhere to conduct Union business at… Read more »
Last year the Wilmington Delaware had a premium neurologist as president of AFGE. Dr. Hooker. talk about a waste and use of a physician. Delaware had 2 different unions in the same hospital on 2 different floors as well. Of course Coons Carper and Carney were the VA “Trifecta” at the time . Three retarded ass, pez dispenser shaped head motherfucktwats ! Trump needs to build a wall around the VA once it has been purged of the filthy McNasties.… Read more »
Hey CorpsmanUp!, speaking of neurologists heres one for ya! I went to Mather Va yesterday (400 mile round trip) to see a neurologist about a TBI MRI I had 3 months ago! after he cancelled my previous appt. This guy scared the living hell out of me. He looks like Einstein. He told me my MRI results showed nothing and that I was just showing the signs of old age. This is after getting my head busted open twice and… Read more »
Crazy elf

This seems to be the “excuse”, (old age), used by a majority of healthcare providers at VHA’s nationwide.
I’ve had the same problem, over my “worsening peripheral neuropathy”, and other military medical conditions, for years.
Yet, can never get them to talk about it!


I think my neurologist NEEDS a neurologist and a padded room. I’m going to see if I can use my choice card for this BS.

@Nexdeceptus, no problem! I completely understand. The problem with medicine today is that if your doctor or healthcare provider are not adopting your input into your record, they are not meeting the ‘standard of care’ test when it comes to malpractice and tort claims. An expert in court would needed to provide testimony and factual subject matter expertise to prevail. VA knows this and the practice is to buy up all of the subject matter experts available or known to… Read more »
Interesting. A quick search on him shows he’s a professor of neurology at UC Davis. His faculty listing there says it’s UC Davis Alzheimer’s Center/VA Center. His Healthgrades listing shows he works in the Allergy Clinic at the VA Outpatient Clinic in Martinez, CA. His LinkedIn profile says he’s Chief of Neurology at VA Medical Center, San Francisco Bay area. He graduated med school in 1965 according to his CA license listing. I don’t know if it’s the same Michael… Read more »

And don’t forget the free space at all the Va Regional Offices throughout the country.

Just Another Veteran

There is so much corruption between the Department of Veterans Affairs and AFGE they need to shut the whole damn system down. Then they both have the nerve to treat the veterans they serve with poor health care while perpetuating their corruption.

Trump needs to put Ben on the top of the oversight committee with a ball busting budget to drain and filter the swamp.

One nuerologist who made a tacit bid for President talked directly about how to save huge money and in his opinion lives. He proposed that the VA be completely dismantled. His idea was that ALL veteran functions currently serviced by VA become he resoinsibility of the DOD. Furthermore he went on to say that at least one year prior to discharge that DOD begin the process of re-acclimitization into a civilian population. He topped it off by saying that discharge… Read more »
Crazy elf
Let me get this straight. The VA pays for the AFGE to be inside a majority of VHA’s!? Uhhhh, Why isn’t the AFGE paying for the office space. Also, Are the VSO’s receiving “free office space”? If so, Why aren’t they paying? They have hundreds of thousands of dollars in their coffers. They can definitely afford it! _______________________ Although it’s dated yesterday, 2 Mar. 2017. Here’s an article from; “Wisconsin Watchdog” by M.D. Kittle Titled; “VA Whistleblower has questions for… Read more »
Crazy elf
Here’s some additional articles from: “Military.com/Daily News” and “The Associated Press”. 1) Titled: “Lawmakers Try Again to Accelerate Discipline of VA Employees” 3 Mar. 2017 | by Nikki Wentling My thoughts are Dr. Shulkin may be trying. He spells it out directly! ___________________ For you long time “BIKERS” out there. Has this ever happened to you? Titled; “Restaurant Tells American Legion Officers to Remove Vests!” 2 Mar. 2017 – associated press It happened in Kentwood, Mich.! I have personal experience… Read more »
Gosh in hyper rural Christmas Valley Oregon back in the ’70s where my father ran the only ongoing bar in town (also one of the seven total structures inside city limits) and served almost exclusively farmhands and cowboys he mostly had to remind the patronage to remove their sidearm at the door, leave the horse outside, and keep your clothes ON (although with the men he was a bit more strict in this). If they didn’t like it they could… Read more »

Both the union and VSO get office, furniture, utilities, computers, printers, phones, phone service and whatever, all paid by the U S taxpayer as deemed by our congressional buddies.

Wow! I live in Ohio and collectively, The VA allocates a total of 9845 Square Feet for AFGE office space and AFGE Union Activities. WTF? Here, I live in a 775 square ft. one bedroom apartment @ $711. per month + utilities+, which is probably the largest apartment I have ever leased as a single man with no roommates in this life thus far and care not to pay any more than this in order to live in a safe… Read more »

Kinda makes ya wonder how much space was carved out for thug life at that abomination being built in Denver.

Ben your numbers regarding cost necessarily focused on what free rent VA is giving away, but honestly this is not the most insideous nor by ANY strecth of the imagination what these places truly cost America. The space is obviously used, but the question comes begging about just how it is used, right? I am assuming that vets waiting in the ER are not offered beds to lay on in theses office spaces, but exactly how are these spaces costing… Read more »

In 2012 there were about 1million hours of official time spent on union business by taxpayer funded doctors.as per “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_uKNgu8FNw”

Over 200 locals at the va pluss other unions at the va as per “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uCv8j-SN54&t=6923s”

Again 7 million is way low of a number.


Take the er doctor making over 200,000.00 per year spending 100% of his time on union business, let’s just average it to 50,000.00 per year salary per union member spending 100% on union business that would be 50 million, but I recall the actuall number was something like 111 million. Again include this with the free rent and the repacement doctors and your going to be in the neighborhood of 200 Million plus.

@Dennis– I bet that thing called “official time” and that AFGE Union office suite they haunt gets utilized for ‘hungry, hungry hippos’, birthday parties or any party where mock-up puppets and other party favors are provided that mock and degrade the Veterans they are there to serve, and that “official time” and office space probably comes in really handy dividing-out each day’s take from the pharmacy tech, probably a really large mirror on one large expensive table that changes colors… Read more »

I wonder if the former head of the VA OIG called it “official time” when he was alone in his glass conference room? Or would this be “duty time”?

I guess the janitorial staff just called it “clean up time”? Those godamn pidgeons leave such a mess when they get in like that!


“Whitewash Time”.


I can barely move my fingers today, this is my last post until the pain goes away.

Ex va

@ cj, sorry you are in pain. Hope you get to feeling better.

A lot of the space is in “closed wards”. Because patients are pushed out faster a lot of facilities have unused space. I notice that VA’s with complaint facilities have more union space. Denver, because of growth is utilizing more of its space than cities of similar size so less union space per employee compared to Long Beach, Greater LA for instance which have a lot of extra space never utilized because of being closed former cavalry forts or Navy… Read more »
On behalf of horses in all of Wyoming, I must say that of all the noble creatures to compare VA too that it seems unfair to single out horses. I bet there are a lot of empty jack ass shacks too. Pig pens are also notoriously empty during VA work a hours. Cows are just stupid so empty pastures don’t matter but what about chicken coups??? In most states when you hand the keys to the coup over to the… Read more »

However, am betting one could witness a major cock fight when the AFGE Fox and VA Haitian Witch Dr.’s fight over the remaining chickens while the asses watch-on. 🙂


It probably makes sense about the cock fight namnibor. The AFGE folks are definately pricks….


Nam, I think a former IG would wanna get in on that fight.

He might win hands down. And up. And down.

Crazy elf

There’s a lot of great articles on;
“GOP The Daily Dose”, today.
This one caught my eye.

“Obama WOTUS “Pond Convict” – Trump Abolished EPA Rule, Vet Still In Prison!”

Mar. 2, 2017 | by Rick Wells

Y’all need to read this article. It’s about an elderly veteran who, in reality, NEVER broke any laws. Because, what he did was put ponds on his own property!
I wonder how many others out there were illegally thrown in prison?
Check out the other articles as well!


The crap the VA has been doing since Dr. Shulkin took over is the crap POTUS said he would stop. Mr. President, make the VA right or give me choice. Dr. Shulkin obviously didn’t understand you. Or, he did and he’s lying. No other options. Get that criminal union out of my health care.

This might seem off topic, and it is, but I wanted to give you hope. New technology has arrived that will ensure the quality of VA care is at least possible. What am I talking about? Playstation 4 VR headset. Yep, the headset that lets you play in 3d has arrived, is affordable, and better yet the user can play Surgeon Simulator 2017! Why is this relevant to VA medical care? Well, the program only scored one star out of… Read more »
If you purchase the Surgeon Simulator 2017 package in next 30 minutes, you get absolutely free the VA’s beta version of Pharmacist Technician, which also has the option for inner-app purchases of really swell pharmaceuticals you can create new cures for new diseases you also create, and sell it right back to the VA. Very interactive, even your kids will enjoy it better than that smelly Creepy Crawler Factory, but without even leaving the creepy factor. (melba toast for your… Read more »
Crazy elf
As far as today’s blog, I’ve noticed something of importance we’ve touched on. That is; “The VHA’s have been yelling and screaming about NOT having enough Doctors, Nurses and other healthcare providers. Well, why not take these asswipes who are giving 100% of their time to union activities, and make/force them to perform their duties! That way, maybe, we veterans would be seen on time! Maybe, we veterans would receive some kind of healthcare! Maybe, those asswipes need to be… Read more »
Off Topic: But, politics always slides its brown mass downward via gravity to affect we Veterans and I just wonder if all this Democrats and McCain and all other congress critters screaming all over the airwaves about Attorney General Sessions and anyone remotely related to Russia, is nothing but a massively orchestrated smokescreen of swamp fog to impair any repair or changes Trump’s Team wishes to do with the VA and other parts of draining the swamp in D.C.? I… Read more »
Crazy elf

I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head!
I believe it could very well be a “smoke screen” to keep President Trump from fulfilling his promises to America!
We’ll just have to wait and see!

I HATE waiting. It’s just like I’m back in the Army or Navy!
——- “Hurry up and wait!”———–

Off Topic – Trump Signs Executive Order Making English Official Language of World President Trump signed a new executive order today making English the official language of the world. Titled, “Making English the Official Language of the World”, the order would effectively ban the use of all other languages across the globe. “English is so great. So, so great. This was a real no-brainer. Really something that should have been done a long time ago,” Trump remarked. “English is the… Read more »
I cannot in any way comprehend how it is legal to provide any kind of government facilities or resources for union activity. Why do unions at private business not have free office space provided by the companies where their unions work? Its no wonder they have hundreds of flunkies spending 100% of their time on union activities. Why would they want to leave their lavish offices? And I can tell you, anything over 500 square feet is pretty damn lavish,… Read more »
Crazy elf

Computers and Internet access – Those union thugs, and thuglets, have to keep up with the latest porn site, don’t cha know!

@91 Veteran: It must be modeled after the auto industry, they are required to provide a union office in every auto manufacuring plant. I wouldn’t be surprised to find this same thing in the steel industry as well. The larger the industry the larger the thugery, and all protected by law. Durring the Hearings on:The Use of Official Time for Union Activities at the Department of Veterans Affairs. It was clear the democrats were only interested in protecting the unions,… Read more »
@cj– I can tell you that the couple years while in college working night shift unloading semi trucks for UPS, which was represented by the Teamsters Union, was a really big joke. Union Stewards were just extra paid yes men for other people up the pyramid food chain and the office space allocated for a huge location that was size of several football fields under one huge roof, was the equiv. of size of a regular vending machine break room… Read more »
I must add this to my little tale: The org. I worked for and by proxy, the AFL-CIO, paid for my entire healthcare and hospitalizations for one full year when I left because of health and conscious…and guess what? That once, pretty good community organizing group called “Working America” in which I worked as a Field Manager and was being groomed to take main position for my State–shortly after that year, that once-okay group has gone all-in PAC, which is… Read more »
@namnibor: All true, I know more about unions then I let on, Sheet metal worker for many years, and a union small business owner for many years as well. I really like that initiation fee, isn’t that special? or when my men had no work, to have them go around to different construction sites looking for non union companies that were doing our work. What for? to boot them off and put our men to work? Hell no, so the… Read more »
@namnibor Unions have indeed outlived their usefulness, but this does not mean that something much more effective has not been put in place. Union membership declined drastically since the 50’s and in their place we have regulation. What I mean by this is that once a group that licenses, say nurses, convinces the government to regulate their industry, then a sure thing is that in order to practice in the industry you must have a license to do so. A… Read more »
Very good explanation Dennis on what happens with certain occupations when there is no union, but I believe busy bodies in government insisting on regulating or having power over others is as much to blame. Not to mention government bureaucrats wanting to build empires so as to properly oversee those they regulate. But then we have the VA, where employees are often both licensed and union members, and no bureaucrat wanting to regulate any of them. I so enjoy licensing… Read more »
Cj, thanks for that. As I said, I wasn’t clear on whether private companies do that. I am sure that is dependent on size of company and union. I notice many union halls are paid for by the union, which is their right. If a private company wants to pay for office space and time for unions, that too is their right, and company officials have to answer to their shareholders. I notice VA bureaucrats like to refer to us… Read more »
@91 Veteran: So right about that. 91, didn’t you say you had a knee replacement done at the va? Without pain meds after? Criminal behaviour for sure. How did the knee replacement go? Would you do it over again? They want to replace both of mine. I do not want the va doing the surgery. I also read that when you have a screwed up back, your chances for failed knee replacement is pretty high. They also just reprogrammed my… Read more »
Cj, I did have knee replacement surgery at the VA in 2014. I was given morphine which did not relieve the pain or muscle cramping, and the nurses were withholding the Percoset which did help. Then on the last day, the nurse on duty stole the pain medicine from the dose of other medicine I received. When he came in around 1pm on the day I was discharged, he said he couldn’t give me any more pain medicine from the… Read more »
@91 Veteran: Thanks for the info. No veteran should have to suffer throught what you have at the hands of the va. I damn sure would have sued their sorry asses. What happened to you, and what they did to me, is exactly why I asked. If I do decide to have the surgery done it will be at a private facility and not the va. I have an appointment with the va for ortho and spine, in 2 weeks.… Read more »
I hear ya CJ. My brother has had some disks fused years ago and has had nothing but trouble. I had a lower back injury from falling on ice about 10 years ago, ended up In the ER with pain so bad down my left leg it felt like an electric bolt if I put any weight on one leg. I have to be damn careful in what I do. If I twist the wrong way while lifting something, it’s… Read more »

@91 Veteran: I wish the best for your brother. I don’t know how these damn surgeons can claim such a high success rate. I don’t know a single person that was one of those successes. I hope you don’t further any damage to your back as well. You need to be very carefull for the rest of your life.


Let the union pay them. They don’t work for Veterans. After months of executives abuses, the major problem may be the executives themselves. OIG has reported so many infractions in the past few months and nothing much has been done. I’ve heard some say the VA is good. To some it is. To way too many, it’s not. Giving VA space to our enemies isn’t sound. Don’t AFGE have budget for rent? AFGE has no place in the VA building.

There’s no doubt many great VA employees and also exceptionally lazy ones. What happens in especially a corporate type office environment is when you have fraud and corruption rife in the ranks of management, just like a communicable plague of some sort, that corruption and fraud creeps-in and causes the already prone to lackadaisical and lazy work ethics to also start to flourish and they become more brazen with their own perhaps human behavioral quirks that were once sufficiently suppressed… Read more »

Anyone still awake?


@91Veteran – I hope you able to get that pain taken care of, and to get better mobility in your leg. Question, does the VA where you receive PT have a warm water pool? Thanks, and get better Brother.

To Everyone- Does your VA have a warm water pool?


I don’t believe they have such a pool ANutterVet, unless it’s hidden in a room somewhere.


I find it funny that Salem,Virginia has the largest square footage for union office space but serve one of the smallest community of veterans in the state. I live in NOVA and can only do a limited set of medical procedures at the VA Medical Clinic at Fort Belvoir. And still have to travel into Washington DC for most of my appointments. I guess Salem has friends in DC.

Seymore Klearly
With the Union now calling for a 5.3% pay increase. I am sure they see themselves as still protected. As for some of the creative uses they have been using to make money off the office space they are being provided under the Veterans Administrations budget. “Credit union branches on VA land targeted for closure”, Staff Writer / Published: June 15, 2015 “http://citizensvoice.com/news/credit-union-branches-on-va-land-targeted-for-closure-1.1898120” Of course the Unions does not want to give up their Credit Union’s use of VA Property.… Read more »
Seymore Klearly

Don’t worry the Credit Unions are fully staffed and no AFGE member has to wait to join and no waiting on fast loan approvals.

Seymore Klearly

I wonder who is paying the salary of all those credit union employees?

Or better question is how they are using the VA budget to pay those salaries?


Good find Seymore.

How many other sweetheart deals does the AFGE have with the VA with taxpayers paying for it?


@Seymore Klearly, @91Veteran – As Veterans, where is our protection? Sorry, forgot, we’re disposable. Next in line!

Seymore Klearly

I see the statement “Comments are closed.”

Just above the Leave A Reply box.

Are comments posting?


@Seymore Klearly – Posts are visible on my end.