Ecstacy Breakthrough Treatment

After loads of lobbying, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA (aka Ecstasy aka Molly aka E), is now touted by FDA as the leading pharmacological treatment for PTSD.

The announcement came one week after Congress voted against the use of marijuana to treat veterans with PTSD by the Department of Veterans Affairs. The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) announced MDMA has been granted Breakthrough Therapy Designation by FDA.

According to Forbes:

MAPS, which has been championing and fundraising for MDMA research for roughly 30 years, explained in a press release that the FDA’s granting of a Breakthrough Therapy Designation indicates the agency “has agreed that this treatment may have a meaningful advantage and greater compliance over available medications for PTSD.” It also designates the agency’s intent to help develop and review the treatment faster than other candidate therapies. 

I can only assume this “faster” treatment also includes marijuana:

The drug’s ability to help PTSD-sufferers cope with the lingering effects of trauma is attributed in large part to its capacity to produce feelings of euphoria, empathy, and heightened emotional and physical sensations–in other words, perhaps, giving sorely stressed brains the kind of neurochemical getaway that begets a little peace of mind. Those effects also seem to motivate recreational users, but unlike the self-dosed Saturday night version, official MDMA-assisted psychotherapy involves three administrations of the drug combined with established psychotherapeutic techniques.

Rick Doblin, Founder and Executive Director of MAPS, commented in a statement, “For the first time ever, psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy will be evaluated in Phase 3 trials for possible prescription use, with MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD leading the way … Now that we have agreement with FDA, we are ready to start negotiations with the European Medicines Agency.”

While Attorney General Jeff Sessions is busy rolling back advancements in marijuana distribution and pot brownies, FDA is now rolling forward with MDMA studies.

I would be curious to know who is behind the lobbying move supporting research into MDMA use for PTSD. Let’s remember, research on use of marijuana as a treatment for things like PTSD hit a snag in VA after a botched report claimed results of treatments using marijuana were inconclusive.

I can only imagine VA predators like Mark Wisner cannot wait to dose a bunch of surly veterans with this stuff. Can you just imagine a group of veterans inside a VA hospital “rolling” on E? When will VA start the trials?

Once this is approved, think VA will hand out glow sticks, too?

Na, the glow sticks would be rationed.

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/08/28/fda-designates-mdma-as-breakthrough-therapy-for-post-traumatic-stress/#6446a774608c

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91Veteran

Without reading the article, I suspect Ecstasy will be considered by the VA to be a great treatment for PTSD.

Why? Because a veteran cannot grow Ecstasy in his back yard.

Leatherneck

911 Veteran Ecstasy will kill you sooner than you think but you can’t stop you it’s your choice not my choice i definitely don’t smoke nothing and drink alcohol.

91Veteran

Leatherneck, I’m not saying Ecstasy should be used. I’m saying the VA will happily push it because then they can control it as opposed to a vet growing MJ that they, and Pig Pharma can’t control.

Leatherneck

91Veteran do you go on Facebook because I have a New Veteran Disabled Benefit Law to across to you do you want to here or FACEBOOK or telephone.

91Veteran

Where would I find it?

Arnold Cabral

91Veteran do you my email address?

91Veteran

Do I have your email address? No I do not.

Arnold Cabral

91VETERAN DO YOU WANT MY EMAIL ADDRESS?

ANutterVet

@91Veteran – – – I just caught this, using two handles, not knowing you, and not saying anything. Strange to me. Watch. – – – Nutter

SirFerret

I’m with you brother. This is bullshit at the highest order.

ExInterest
It’s 3 treatments of Ecstasy only, under the supervision of a therapist that guides you through the trauma. I have to say that it has been effective in limited trials. BUT THERE IS NO WAY I’D WANT THE VA ADMINISTERING THIS TREATMENT!! You need excellent trained therapists to help you through this treatment. It’s a bit like throwing open the doors and examining every traumatic feeling AT THE SAME TIME while chemically feeling like the biggest hug in the world… Read more »
91Veteran

I suspect the VA and Pig Pharma are behind this in order to head off any MJ being approved.

How can you tell? Well, it got the “Breakthough!” treatment rather than the usual “more research is needed” treatment.

windguy
When health care practices are fully considered, perhaps being treated like a fucking lab rat is a step up. Anyone note the base ingredient – methamphetamine? So, a guy has had a lifetime of PTSD and the stress that goes along with it, and probably accompanied by alcohol and other self abuse – all of which takes its toll on the heart. “So, let’s jack the boys up on some happy meth – what could possible go wrong…?” “You know,… Read more »
91Veteran

Windguy, it will be a step up until thousands of vets are addicted to Ecstasy…them there will be whining about the harmful effects, at which point vets will be abruptly cut off.

Mike
LSD for ingrown toenails is next along with butt plugs for diarrhea. Both are touted as miracles since the only 43 sense. The doctor that was found guilty for molestation sentence has been waved by the Director of the Denver VA hospital and therapy will start in February 2027 right after the finish building a beautiful tiny home to administer the new products. They said that the tiny home can store 43,000 butt plugs and 540,000 sheets of acid being… Read more »
namnibor

“[…Once this is approved, think VA will hand out glow sticks, too?

Na, the glow sticks would be rationed.]”

I hear standing out in a lightening storm atop a barn with a nine iron raised-up is an effective way to get rid of stubborn body hair that standard electrolysis will not touch…but do I want to try it when there’s weed growing behind the barn?
These assholes are already on loads of molly.

cj
You guys know I hate when people inject their political B.S. into disabled Veterans issues, sorry can’t help myself this time. Ecstacy? Of course, what’s the left always preaching? What the word needs now, is love, sweet love!! Maybe we can all sit around the camp fire and sing, coooooom by yah, that’s the ticket!! And then as 91 says, in comes the Jack booted VA, and instantly, the party is over. Might as well hand out a single shot… Read more »
Warhorse

All I can say is , “holy fuck”!!! This is absolute proof that big pharma along with defense contractors run the show in DC. The great ones, Washington, Grant, Lee, Longstreet, Patton and so on are flipping in their caskets. A traumatized vet tripping on X, can anyone say suicide by cop…… wait for it……… Fuck off VA.

cj

Exactly, Warhorse!

namnibor
“[…Once this is approved, think VA will hand out glow sticks, too? Na, the glow sticks would be rationed.]” 1- VA subcontracts the glow sticks while pig pharma plays Dr. Psycho Delic. 2- The subcontractor cuts a few corners to pad their profit margin on glow sticks. 3- Vets die because the VA was telling the Vets to place glow sticks up our asses and that the ecstasy would be dispensed from the anal glow sticks. 4- Glow sticks ended-up… Read more »
PAA

Drugging didn’t work the first seventy years, withholding medications doesn’t work
in these fifty years; marijuana is safer and inexpensive. Veterans are being volunteered for drug trials, disease and cancer research, DNA studies, etc. I have yet to find regulations governing human research criteria, and whistleblower protection for veterans. When we enlisted, what block or form said consent not required for research studies on military/veteran volunteers? What form said lifetime commitment (research) or “till death do we part”?

Crazy elf
As Batman’s Robin would exclaim, “Shades of Timothy O’Leary, Batman!” Are we in the “Twilight Zone”! Or, are we just, “One Step Beyond!” What The Fuck is VA up to now? Have they figured out HOW to “tune us out” quicker? Keeping veterans “dropped out” of society? I’ve heard and read articles, the DOD was doing things like this to active duty military, without their permission, back in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s! If this kind of shit continues, sure… Read more »
Seymore Klearly

PTSD + methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) + Tramadol = Serotonin Syndrome, better known as Dead Veteran Syndrome.

namnibor

For that *very* reason, the VA will ensure the capsules or pill forms of MDMA are *identical* to Tramadol so the VA Pharmacists can have a little fun playing Molly Roulette with refills. 🙂

CorpsmanUp!
Great, now the VA wants to alter your brain chemicals to obfuscate any potential for a claim with the use of synthetic drugs. Any person who would take a synthetic drug that has no strict controls is asking to become a zombie. When you alter your serotonin, dopamine and norephrine levels, you are at high risk for a medication induced movement disorder. The VA wants you to show up at the front desk dancing and tweaking out so that can… Read more »
namnibor

Watch/Re-watch great but disturbingly deep movie “Jacob’s Ladder”…it’s got the VA, God, Gov’t. chemical trials on soldiers in Vietnam…airdropped on own to induce them to fight more aggressively…really trippy movie…may trigger some mental PTSD shit but A LOT of truths in that movie.

Mike

Well rather be on something and live this shit life.

WyldeChylde
I’ve never been one to use pills for mental health as I always seem to have problems and reactions. It’s also hard for me to remember to take maintenance meds reliably. I use cannabis because it’s beneficial. I use it more as a rescue med akin to an inhaler. It helps give me breathing room to adjust my perspective before I do something really fucking stupid. It’s also easily dosed and effective almost immediately as opposed to waiting around for… Read more »
Leroy

Their ideology is filling their own damn pockets and nothing more

WyldeChylde

money changers…doing what money changers do. They used to call them Pharisees

NiteWish
MAPS’ completed trials w/107 participants, 61% no longer qualified for PTSD after 3 sessions of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy 2 months following treatment. At the 12-month follow-up, 68% no longer had PTSD. All participants had chronic, treatment-resistant PTSD & had suffered from PTSD for an average of 17.8 years. Is that not promising? or sound too good to be true. “http://www.maps.org/news/media/6786-press-release-fda-grants-breakthrough-therapy-designation-for-mdma-assisted-psychotherapy-for-ptsd,-agrees-on-special-protocol-assessment-for-phase-3-trials?pk_campaign=BTD2017&pk_kwd=pr-end” MAPS only have 25 of the needed 76 participants to be enrolled to receive Marijuana in their clinical trial of smoked… Read more »
WyldeChylde
it sounds fishy honestly. It sounds like what their saying about the missile defense system at this point. I think it just shows the government is desperate for something to use against the opiate crisis and just doesn’t want to admit for some reason that cannabis has an important role to play. Incidentally, MDMA apparently can cause: nausea, chills, sweating, involuntary teeth clenching, muscle cramping, and blurred vision. MDMA overdose can also occur—the symptoms can include high blood pressure, faintness,… Read more »
WyldeChylde

Although i will say that I’ve been hearing some good/interesting things about Psilocybin and LSD. I’ve experimented with both back in the day. Neither one was of high quality but I’ve had a couple of good trips wouldn’t mind pursuing that avenue as a therapeutic tool…

sepp dietrich
they cannot allow cannabis to be used for anything at all. because once they allow it for one thing, the person using it for that one thing will realize that it cured the one thing, and everything else. and if they are smart they also will realize that you can get the cure-all cannabis in the best form, by growing it yourself and processing it in your kitchen. zero zero zero pharma involvement needed to cure just about everything.
propblast

Pervitin. Ya vole, Heer VA Doctor!
Now the VA and big Pharm along with congress are hell bent on killing us off with the poison the National Socialist German Workers People Party (nazi) foisted upon their citizenry, and military. Adolf was an addict… we (vets) going too get our pills wrapped in special foil also?
Stay The Hell Away From The VA!

A “file 319” vet. Not dead yet!

Dennis

“…combined with established psychotherapeutic techniques.” ????????

So ectasy, in combination with the established techniques responsible for a suicide rate already triple that of the general population is sure to produce …. wait for it …..

Yet another VA solution… One more time they plan “To Do For All That Which No One Can Do For Oneself”.

Mr. President, are you nucking futs or are you just pandering to the body bag manufacturing lobby on this one sir?

namnibor

The real kicker in the ass is the body bag manufacturers use only the best hemp for their body bags ever since after the Chicago VAMC exploding body bag incidents with liquefied veteran remains. The Chairperson’s name on that lobby union board is Molly. Big hair, glasses, gravitational pull of Jupiter? Yeah, that’s the one…

Dan

If its passed by Congress to be legal, the Vets with PTSD (like myself) will have two options. Either take it or dont

Delta Whiskey
As one who participated in aclinical trial of Gabatril for PTSD, which resulted in what I would describe as chemica lobotomy and about a 20% drop in IQ. I WOULD RECCOMEND, !!! NO !!! Occasionally I have to eat just a pencil erasers sized pinch of PURE NON- hybrid SATIVA once a day for about a week to retrain my bran and get some of my IQ back. For pain that pinch would provide 2.5 days of serious relief for… Read more »
Dennis
Dan, The problem with this idea is informed consent. VA is notorious for failing to inform patients they are being used as test subjects let alone being informed honestly and fully regarding the risks and dangers of any given drug. Furthermore VA actively pursues an agenda of spreading misinformation well enough that many unsuspecting vets may simply not understand the documented and honest dangers involved with accepting VA healhcare as an alternative to non-VA care. It is deadly. Dan, if… Read more »
Leatherneck

Ask 91 Veteran what Ask of what Arnold Cabral ask him most Veterans on here just Bitch..

91Veteran

I’m trying to figure out what you and Arnold are asking of me since I am clearly missing something. I understood you were asking me to look at a veterans law, and Arnold was asking if I had his email address.

Am I misunderstanding both?

Arnold Cabral

91Veteran i was going to ask of you do you my email address because as Concerned Veteran I believe that Veteran Medical Center should get a least one Cosmetic Dentistry Dentist knows how to put G4 implants because their is not one has a contract with Veteran Affairs Admistation

91Veteran

I do not have your email address Arnold. If you would like to provide it I will take it. Once I have it, what do you want me to do with it?

ANutterVet

Strange again 91.

Dan
exactly. you wont get any argument from me on this. The problem we have is that some Vets who have the PTSD really badly will be desperate to try just about anything the VA suggests to try and ease the symptoms. And if the VA gets any form of showing that it will help some, they will want to start prescribing this like candy. They did this to me for a back injury and had me up to 100mg/s every… Read more »
91Veteran
Dan, if I understood a previous commenters quote of a press release on this, they are claiming vets suffering PTSD for an average of 17 years were cured of PTSD after 3-4 treatments. If they were cured, meaning they no longer have PTSD according to the VA, then they no longer have that disabling medical condition, which means treatment for it and any disability paid for it stops. If that is the case, how much of a choice do you… Read more »
namnibor

I can just see VA hacks salivating over the millions in PTSD disability payments and treatment costs being spent elsewhere like on art and interior designers.”

With all the VA employees now also on ecstasy in addition to all those missing opiate RX’s, the VA would of course spend that landfall of $$ of oodles of psychedelic color-changing wall themes, saving even more $$$ as the glow sticks would no longer be required, nor the interior decorators…more $$$ for more X.

Dan

No I dont. All I am saying is that they will either see that according to them it works or it does not. And as you know they will want to start prescribing this left and right. So either you take it or you dont as they wont give you any other options

NiteWish
MAPS is always asking for more money for these studies, in the Millions $25 million needed for this study alone. ’For-profit pharmaceutical companies are not interested in developing MDMA into a medicine because the patent for MDMA has expired.’ Individual donors are listed. Who are these individual people, do we need to know what if anything they will gain from success OR failure? MAPS states as of June 2016, more than 868,000 veterans were receiving disability compensation for PTSD, w/an… Read more »
stoned
Does this mean every VA hospital and clinic will be re-designed by interior decorators to the likes of “The Fillmore West” of the 60’s in San Francisco? Will Jimi Hendrix impersonators roam around the floors and rap with you to keep your head together for your VA visit to be a good trip and not a total bummer? Will the clinics have seats to sit on or should you bring a blanket to lay on while waiting for Dr. Psycho-Gupta… Read more »
namnibor

Yeah, you will be able to just go to the VA Psych Dept. hallways and just lick the walls like in ‘Willy Wonka’….then come those damn giant blueberries. Oompa Oompa~~~Loompa~~!

namnibor

The Psych RX Drugs will be like LSD on the wallpaper.

SPrice

1. Ecstacy is an amphetamine and it promotes addiction.
2. Amphetamines and stress have cross sensitivity. In other words, stress makes you more sensitive to drugs and drugs make you more sensitive to stress.
3. Long term amphetamine use causes the same type of brain damage in the same brain areas as PTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder.

Borderlines will be the hardest hit. They would be hurting the people who have no way of making the pain stop.

Dennis
In Oregon in 2017 the state issued 5,527 medical marijuanna cards specifically to treat symptoms of PTSD alone. This is one year alone and this is for those who choose to get a card rather than simply purchase it and pay the tax like those without a card. Furhermore, since 1975 Oregon has decriminalized amounts posessed for personal use. The state has tens of thiusands of people utilizing marijuanna medical cards for a wide range of human ailments. History is… Read more »
cj

“We choose as a nation to toss our veterans aside for make believe, pretend, and a WHOLE LOT of $$$ sent to the makers of the pills, and therfore (through undetected channels), right back to the lawmakers that make it all possible.”

Nuttin but net! The truth through and through.

WyldeChylde
Over here in CT. the system is great if you can come out of pocket 1000.00 USD a month for your legal 2.5 ounces. Not so great if you’re…”socioeconomically disadvantaged” ie poor. It’s pissed me off to the point that after 3 years of bullshit I’m setting up meetings with my state rep and senator to amend the current law to include hardship home cultivation. Otherwise I keep facing restrictions to the only medication that I know works for my… Read more »
Peter Kreutzfeldt

lets get real. Nobody knows the cure for PTSD. The veterans know how it has manifested itself over the years and that is all. After all the wars the only thing they have come up with is calling it all sorts of names. From Trench Fever, to Combat Fatigue to Shell Shock and so on but have yet gotten a handle on it

WyldeChylde

That’s exactly right, Sir. The only expert on my condition is me. Not some Dr. QuackenFucker who’s trying to push the latest and greatest poison down my throat. We each walk through hell in our own way. What is important is surviving the nightmare and coming out the other side.

ForgottenDisabledOIFveteran
ForgottenDisabledOIFveteran

I think mmj helps. Maybe not cure but certainly for long term treatment helps ALOT. loads more than the VA ever did.

NiteWish

Contact Secretary David Shulkin to intervene with Phoenix Hospital’s director, Rima Nelson & her checkered past who refuses to help recruit by keeping the Marijuana study Secret. 7 yrs of work the researcher Dr. Sue Sisley & team are on the verge of completing research on the 22 veterans who qualified for the therapeutic effects of marijuana & PTSD study. The federally funded investigation in Arizona needs an additional 54 Veterans to participate. Spread the Word time is running out.
“https://merryjane.com/news/medical-marijuana-ptsd-study-under-threat-of-early-shut-down”

Dennis
I would like to announce the beginning of a new study brought to you here right now IN REAL TIME to judge the eeffectiveness of marijuanna to cope with symptoms of PTSD. Lighting up now with State Of Oregon approved, tested, taxed, regulated, and recommended marijuanna…stand by…. hmmmmm. Describing how I now feel about inhaling a medicine of such horrific consequence that the feds would see me imprisoned for doing it if I did this in a Federal Park while… Read more »
WyldeChylde

They absolutely have hot tubs those fucking hippos gotta go rinse off from time to time otherwise the skin goes right to shit. Gotta stay hydrated man.

I absolutely concur with your scientific method, so much so, in fact I went out and replicated your experiments with great success not more than 10 minutes ago. I don’t have a hot tub but I do have a shower so maybe much the same effect.

namnibor

Yes, the engorged purple teams have hot tubs disguised as physical therapy tubs….and the VA even often gets that deadly wrong in that not too long ago a medical assistant left a Veteran to become human stew and believe it killed him…too many not-so-accidents I easily get them confused…but those hungry, hungry hippos indeed have hot tubs that are industrial engorged certified.

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