VA Protocol Reversed, President Trump Portrait Replaced After Outcry

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President Trump Portrait Removal

In an unusual move, VA quickly changed protocol following outcry over removal of President Donald Trump’s portrait from a Florida VA on Tuesday.

For the past 50 days, VA facilities nationwide have failed to replace the photos of President Obama and Secretary McDonald with photos of President Trump and Secretary Shulkin, MD. Normally, the photos are replaced within the first month after inauguration.

The photos are supposedly delayed from GSA and have yet to be supplied to VA.

Florida VA

Taking matters into their own hands, disabled veterans placed portraits of President Trump and Secretary Shulkin into the placeholders left vacant since January. Congressman Brian Mast (R-Fl), a combat veteran and double amputee, spearheaded the operation.

Some hours later, VA staff removed the photos. One VA spokeswoman called the actions of the Congressman “inappropriate,” as if Rep. Mast was a small child. The spokeswoman cited protocol as the reason for removing the interim portraits intended to honor the President and VA Secretary.

Initially, it was believed the local facility removed the portraits, but I just received word the call for removal actually came from someone within VA Central Office.

Who do you think mandated removal of the portrait installed by the Congressman?

Thankfully, outcry from the public raised awareness about the matter resulting in VA blowing off the protocol to only hang an official portrait given the tardy presentation of the images.

Instead, VA mandated immediate printing and hanging of interim portraits until the formal portraits are made available to VA by GSA.

Whether you like President Trump or not, he is the President, and his image needs to be displayed promptly.

About President Trump Portrait Replacement

According to the VA.gov VAntage Point blog:

In the last few weeks, and especially in the last few days, there have been a number of inquiries from the public, media and members of Congress in regards to the lack of photos of the president and Secretary Shulkin in VA facilities. Though these facilities abide by the General Services Administration protocol and have been anxiously awaiting an official photo of the president to arrive, today, Secretary Shulkin issued guidance to break from protocol.

By direction of the secretary, VA facilities have been instructed to temporarily display an image from the White House’s website until an official portrait of President Trump is released.

All VA facilities have been directed to download and print photos of both the president and Secretary Shulkin, and every facility is expected to have them appropriately displayed immediately. The president’s photo, while not his official portrait, is currently used by the White House on its website and social media platforms. Once VA receives the official photo of President Trump, facilities will replace the temporary version.

Though VA facilities have been following the correct federal protocol for official portraits, we realize that it is more important to display these temporary photos to demonstrate a clear chain of command and respect for our leadership and our Veterans.

What would be great is to see President Trump coordinate massive deviations from flawed VA protocol related to how it processes appeals, too. Maybe this is a first step to using common sense solutions.

What do you think?

Source: http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/36062/when-its-time-to-put-protocol-aside-portraits-on-the-way-to-va-facilities/

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Jo3n
Jo3n

I’m just plain tickled to know, now, that Dr. Shulkin can override VA protocol with the snap of them fingers. There be lots of protocols to be snapping them fingers for. VA protocols are a large problem in the VA. Most are political and aimed at lessening a Veterans life. Both in value of life and the time we have. It’s current protocol, what ever year, does affect what my records are showing. When first diagnosed with PTS, the entire staff’s protocol was to find a way to blame my parents. Wasted a lot of time. Protocol, what’s politically correct counts.

CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!

In between Shulkin and the President’s photo should be a picture of Mattis. A Goliath size statue at the employee entrance of every VA with a placard above it that states “Tread on my troops, and I will definetly Fuck you up!”
I hope the President knows about this. Whatever ails the Donald in his drive to succeed, I like it! I hope just cusses more people out so that it would show the media’s contempt with him and the obstruction of his need to govern.
The Secretary looks like a combination of a pregnant Greg Brady and Sylvester Stallone with a tic as depicted in a previous photo in Ben’s Bad VA Art, aka Heisman Head photo.
His picture just needs to come down and just have his name tag up there.
The OIG has Crohns (random statement), the VA sucks, OGC lawyers are official dweebs with pens and suffer from MRSA pimples on their asses. Otherwise than that, it is going to be a great day! Happy St.Patrick’s Day to all!

Bill
Bill

I sure hope the congressman and the disabled vet do not get put on the disruptive committee list.

They will never be seen again

namnibor
namnibor

“[Initially, it was believed the local facility removed the portraits, but I just received word the call for removal actually came from someone within VA Central Office.

Who do you think mandated removal of the portrait installed by the Congressman?]”

I am of the belief that at VA Central Office there’s a wall of Klaxon Alarms and all kinds of blinky flashing lights that go off anytime at any VA facility the Veterans may be showing signs of taking our VA back.
Apparently, not only the entire wall of Klaxon Alarms were set-off by Veterans showing any signs of independence, but also every VA Choice Crow was flying in circular flight pattern over VA Central Office letting the VA know that we Veterans are starting to make our OWN Choices….and Johnny Isaacson flew off his stairmaster machine, which spoiled his breakfast of also, Choice Crow.

RAND Corporation concurs that a crack in the VA’s foundation occurred this week when Vets started taking ownership of the VA Facilities. Therefore, that Florida VAMC shall be eating a lot of Choice Crow in coming weeks and months, as those Choice Crows were defective in not blackening-out the disinfecting qualities of daylight on the VA.
Remember, The VA CARES.

namnibor
namnibor

“KAW”– Klaxon Alarm Wall. It’s also the sound of the Choice Crow’s alarm, ‘KAW’!!

91Veteran
91Veteran

…and the sound Isakson makes when he gets his ass launched off his Stairmaster.

How about we get rid of Isakson? Let him do all the Stairmastering he wants and promote Congresman Mast onto Isaksons committee as chairman.

Then Isakson could go back to reading Mens Health magazines rather than bad news about the VA.

namnibor
namnibor

@91Veteran- All-in for Congressman Mast to replace Isaacson as committee chairman. Matter-in-fact, Congressman Mast is exactly the type of Disabled Veteran that should be leading the VA, not a yes man medical dr. that appeases piggy VSO’s.

My last thought about this authenticated photos debacle is, it makes me wonder had *any* of the big three piggy VSO’s brought-in photo portraits of Pres. Trump and Sec. Shulkin, would those photos have been accepted as fully authenticated VA Photos since the VSO’s are bedfellows with the VA?

91Veteran
91Veteran

Nam, I don’t think any of the VSOs care whose picture is on the wall as long as the gravy train runs.

Hondo
Hondo

We need to set up a “Brass Balls” award for those politicians who would challenge the VA as this junior congressman did. Maybe it would light a fire under senior politicians like do nothing McCain and give me a Bronze Star for waking up Graham, 2 very senior veteran politicians…………..

namnibor
namnibor

McCain & Graham only get the “Balsa Wood Balls” award at this point, not even remotely close to “Ping-Pong Balls” award as yet.

namnibor
namnibor

Also, McCain & Graham are joined not only at the hip but between them they only share -1- “Balsa Wood Ball” between them.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

namnibor, did you see where McCain called Rep. from Kentucky a “Russian Agent”? His exact words were; quote; “He’s working for the Russians!”
Yea he did! On Tuesday, this week “Songbird McCain” said it in front of Congress. All because the Kentucky Rep, who happens to be a doctor, said he “objects” to the new “RYANCARE”!
There’s a video on Utube on it! I watched it last night! Laughed my ass off at the clown!

91Veteran
91Veteran

Crazy Elf, I saw a follow-up to McCain where Rand Paul was responding to what McCain said.

Rand Paul was/is holding up some issue of adding Montenegro to NATO because he doesn’t believe we need to expand it and risk getting drawn into war with Russia.

McCain responded as if Paul would not defend his action, so he said Paul was working for the Russians.

Paul said in the follow-up why he took the action he did, suggested McCain was a good argument for term limits and that he is unhinged.

I agree with Paul’s assessment.

namnibor
namnibor

@91Veteran- I would rarely say this, but I also agree with Rand Paul on his take on Unhinged McCain. Industrial Barrel of Crazy had it’s lid flown-off in that altercation…very similar to watching the two old men up in the balcony on ‘The Muppet Show’, “Waldorf & Statler”, except the backstage muppets accidentally switched one of the old men’s hair with “Beaker’s” hair to match Rand Paul’s crow’s nest or whatever that thing is.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Hondo,
Maybe a “Fickled Finger of Fate Award” for all the VA employees should be added in the mix!

I think that “Combat Disabled American Veteran/Congressman” had something to do with this! Because, up until now the VHA’s nationwide weren’t following rules/regulations on putting up the pictures of “OUR” President and Sec. of VA! That bullcrap that VA spokeswoman told, was just that, BULLSHIT!
I wonder what’s going to be said about the “video” that went viral? Y’all know, the one that spokeswoman said was “illegal”!

We all knew the Secretary of VA has/had power to do a job. His job is to insure ALL VETERANS be treated with respect and honor in OUR healthcare at all VHA’s.
Maybe we’re seeing the beginning of a NEW era of veterans healthcare! At least I hope so!
Now is NOT the time to get “overly ambitious” when seeing a VHA healthcare provider. We must show our restraint by being “stern” in how we WANT to be treated in “OUR” VHA HEALTHCARE SYSTEM!
I think it’s time for us to say; “I have this problem with my ‘service connected disability”, and want to know more about it!” And. “I’m having trouble, side effects, with the medications your prescribed!” (Side note: “IF the medications are still in the ‘testing stage’, let them know you DON’T appreciate being a test subject!”)

Basically, your forcing the VHA healthcare providers to “learn” more about medical procedures and medications! If they want to “act like physicians”, force them to be physicians! Ask questions they DON’T WANT to hear!

I’ve been trying this out recently. Y’all would be surprised at the reactions my wife and I receive! As a matter of fact, my last appointment with my (alleged) PCP, she got frightened by my wife asking questions she couldn’t answer – when it came to my “service connected disabilities”!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

As far as “SONGBIRD MCCAIN” is concerned. I have absolutely NO fuckin’ respect for him at all. Especially after the Navy Released his records in 2015! Then kept it quiet for about a year.
It finally hit Utube late last year.
I always wondered why there were so many Sailors who hated him with a passion!
Every one of the Sailors I met back in the late ’70’s, said it wasn’t primarily about what he did as a POW. Then they would clam up! Even some of the vets I met since, wouldn’t talk about what happened onboard the “USS Forrestal”!
Since I learned the truth about him, I too have a growing distain for his ass!

namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf- I also honestly thing Veterans have reached a scandalous VA saturation point and are starting to take ownership.
Also, as you well-stated, taking ownership of your particular chronic health issues is also very important, and you likely will be healthier for it, and may I add, if you do not LIKE your VA Provider, **demand** to have a competent hack and accept NO Compromises!!!

Side-note: In celebration of St. Patrick’s Day, all of the water in VA facility toilets will indeed be green. DO NOT DRINK THE GREEN WATER, it’s a bit like the steering clear of yellow snow rule, no matter how thirsty. However, the drinking fountains will likely still contain Legionnaires and MRSA. The VA CARES. Happy St. Splat Day.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Crazy Elf I have tried that before regarding your statement…….I think it’s time for us to say; “I have this problem with my ‘service connected disability”, and want to know more about it!” And. “I’m having trouble, side effects, with the medications your prescribed!”….what i think we need a nurse or a friend of ours present to be a wittiness of the stupid replies we get back from the PCP or be able to video the session for proof of these do nothing fucks

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

MRI brain imaging. As I reported this morning, a significant bug in the software had been discovered in 2015. The software, not medical personnel, is responsible for creating the brain images. Therefore, 40,000 published papers relying on MRI results have been invalidated………………….But don’t worry, be happy. Keep your mouth shut and obey all doctors’ orders. like a good little soldier ……..I got this from this article it might help some of you TBI guys out……..Explosive: a quick review of fake medical diagnostic tests
Mar
14
by Jon Rappoport

Cantigny
Cantigny

@OLDMARINE

VA has used the MRI-scam for years. scam, in the sense that VA radiologist summaries are less than and your VA doctor is onboard with that. that is, even if your VA doctor will tell you the results of your latest MRI. usually you have to ask about it.

VA at many places wouldn’t even use a MRI on veterans even though the technology existed. why? like using a CT versus MRI and saying they don’t “see” anything. service connection deniability, plain and simple.

and the software you speak about is very important.

i’m sure many of you or you know a veteran who was able to get a civilian MRI with up to date machine, software and a radiologist/doctor who used specific protocols for specific ailment being looked into & would write a summary of what actually was being seen.

compare some of those to the wiggle room the VA radiologists allow the VA doctor to deflect real treatment and/or service connection.

you think any of the doctors who worked at VA and now in private practice pull this crap on their patients? they would be out of business and/or sued if they did.

lawyerlynn
lawyerlynn

McCain is not a do-nothing.
He’s been hard at work, drumming up business for the (((group))) he works for.
In 2013 or so, McCain entered into contract on behalf of United States of America, Inc.,
with (((Elbit Corporation))) of Israel to build the same wall as they built at West Bank and Gaza.

The Donald must not have known the wall was already contracted for.

namnibor
namnibor

McCain is a do-nothing to help his fellow Vets and clean-up the VA. He’s playing his violin while the epicenter for VA Scandals is and has been burning right in his back yard of Arizona.
That’s the hypocrisy with McCain: He’s a Vet, but yet only uses Vets when it’s a good photo op or reelection time for props while again, Rome is burning behind him. That’s indifference if I have ever seen it and the VA reflects same. McCain does not use the VA so it does not affect him. Indifferent old dinosaur congress critter.

Windguy
Windguy

Let’s not forget Mr. McPain’s photo op five years ago in Syria, with Al Baghdadi, erstwhile
Founding Chairman and CEO of ISIS. Let’s see. Weapons from Benguazy end up in Syria, and there’s an Israeli connection. Hmm. Netenyahooooo said many years ago that Israel is safer without strong Arab leaders (dicktaters), and Islamic sectarian wars. Looks like it’s working. The NWO marches on

cj
cj

God I hate those two, McMain and Graham. I wish they would both stroke out and die already. Damn useless RINO’s. Okay, being honest there are plenty more I would add to that list. Next executive order should be each Congressman and each Senator, to prove their worth. If they can’t, then be forced to pay back every penny from day 1, and bye bye retirement as well. Why the hell should they be paid more than the young woman and men they put in harms way? Let’s trade, soldiers get what the elected officials are paid, and the elected officials……………..get a paricipation citation (a yellow stripped ribbon, that has a scratch n sniff component, in the aroma of dingleberry) and a long wait list at the retirement home, I mean box under the bridge.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“HAPPY ST. PATRICK’S DAY” to all!

namnibor, I believe it’s more of a “boiling point” veterans have reached concerning our dismal healthcare!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

To all,
Have you heard this one?

A man was walking down the street in Washington DC. A robber came out of nowhere, and stuck a gun in his ribcage. Then said; “Give me all your money!”
The man said: “I’m a Congressman, you CAN’T rob me!”
The robber then said;
“Your right! Give me ALL MY MONEY!”

cj
cj

@Crazy elf: Well said. Between the poor treatment, and the insane exuses to deny claims, indeed a boiling point has been reached.

And a happy St Pat’s to you as well.

cj
cj

Hey Frank, from the Florida VA, you still watching instead of scheduling veterans? Turns out you grossly underestimated the importance of what occured at your facility……dint ya?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“cj”, I totally forgot about “Frank”!
I wonder what kind of day he’s having? I hope he got his ass reamed out for using his work computer, during work hours, to comment on here yesterday!

cj
cj

@Crazy elf: You thing Frank was bad, check this jackass out, go to the bottom and look for dion: “https://www.disabledveterans.org/2017/03/15/ex-generals-use-veteran-suicide-hysteria-oppose-second-amendment-bill/?replytocom=53491#respond”

namnibor
namnibor

@cj- I just taunted “dion” over there on that thread from 3/15/17. Definitely serious swamp gas ass.

cj
cj

@namnibor: They sure been coming out of the woodwork, worried about their job security I supose.
Anyway, everyone have a great day, no sleep, and Ineed to pass out again…………I always miss all the good stuff when I pass out. Ya snooze ya lose.

cj
cj

That was a good one Crazy elf. In honor of St Pat’s day “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXbQxxj-qp8” enjoy.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

watch this on utube McCain Defends Henry Kissinger from Protesters “Shut Up or I Will Have You Arrested.. Low Life Scum” and i seen another one about kissinger saying people in the military are stupid i would like to be in a room with both of these turds and open up a can of whip ass on these two

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

OLDMARINE,
Google and read this article;

“Navy Releases McCain’s Records!”

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I have already read it he’s the only one that got taken off that ship. daddy had to protect his little turd, probably from getting his ass kicked from the rest of the crew

JackO
JackO

A memo was issued throughout the VA notifying the staff about the delay in formal portraits. Its amazing how staff were not effective in communicating that with the Veterans when they had this concern. I don’t know why the facility and central office had to be stupid and probably rude about it. I DO like that the secretary took the Veterans’ concern seriously and put up temporary portraits in the mean time.

namnibor
namnibor

@JackO- I agree it’s great the “…VA Sec. took the Veteran’s concern seriously and put up temporary portraits in the meantime.”, but it was again, only when caught not doing the right thing 50-60 days ago. I still think if Hillary Clinton had won POTUS Election, all VA’s would have had the photos up that morning and am also going as far as the VA and AFGE Piggies were SO SURE that Hillary was going to win, they may had already printed them up with Hillary’s portraits in anticipation.

Kudos to Sec. Shulkin for at least bowing down to allowing temporary likenesses on the walls. However, I would think on any new VA Sec. checklist, ensuring your portrait photo is up at every VA facility is pretty high on that list, along with safe healthcare. Protocol.

We should send a Special Ops Team to go in at night at every VA facility and take down the portraits and replace them with exact replicas and see if it sets any authentication alarm bells off.

Dennis
Dennis

If only on a temporary basis we could print out and post a photo of Yoda and Chewbacca at the entrance. It might help the vets prepare for the fantasy inside the building in a meaningful way. The Force can guide the vets to safety unless of course you are not on Yoda’s side then the Force is a real bitch. Like VA….

namnibor
namnibor

Nice. But at least in my mind, those characters should be more fitting to be from the ‘Alien’ & ‘Predator’ movies, one of each at the entrance, giving reason to “…just nuke it from orbit, to be sure.”

If they must be Star Wars themed, I’m thinking a lot of Jobba The Huts and just as many Jar Jar Binx. Yoda would know better than to be caught even as a ghost in the VA and Chewbacca would be afraid of the crab lice in the VA hospitals. Alien Face-Huggers and Predators are not even hosts for crab lice.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

JackO i bet they have a lot of killary photos they have to put in the trash now just like i think it was TIME MAGAZINE that had the early release of her on the cover as the new president

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: Waste not, wnat not. Some enterprising individua,l should take possesion of all those pre printed stacks of Hillary pictures, and super impose a standard sized 50 meter target, on all of them, for use at your local range, oor the back yard. Recycling at it’s finest. How could the Libtardasaur, even deal with the inteernal strife, of both being on board with recycling, and being against anything gun related or Hillary effigy targeting.
Hey they cold always press 1 and be transfered to the India veterans crisis hotline. Hold on there..effigy, afge..hmmmmmm, what can we make of this?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

great idea on the posters and for the magazines i would stack them floor to ceiling around all 4 bedroom walls and create my very own safe space LOL

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE;Sorry OLDMARINE, I didn’t see your post, I stepped away for a few. I can picture that safe room hahaha.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

thats OK i went and laid back down … i have been in a slump mood all week haven’t done a damn thing but tomorrow is another day and i am going to force myself to do something outside all day even if it kills me LOL and they call this shit the golden years LOL

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: Exact same here OLDMARINE. Last appointment I had with my cardiologist, he is the one that was on duty and saved my life. I told him face to face, “doc, if I have another heart attack, and your the cardiologist on call, PLEASE, don’t be a hero, let me go”. First he chuckled, then he looked at me and said “your serious” I said “yes sir, I am”. This was on my way out the door after the appointment. Whoever named it the golden years, must have meant a golden pain in the ass.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Out today from:
“Military.com/Daily News”
#1)
“House Passes Bill Enabling Gun Sales to ‘Mentally Incompetent’ Vets”

via: “Stars and Stripes
by Nikki Wentling

The vote was “…240 – 175 approving the Veterans Second Amendment Protection Act, which will now go to the Senate.”
Good article. See if y’all can find the “flaws” the Democrats, and some Republicans, are using to block it!
As far as Gifford is concerned. I put this on here after she was shot.
It seems there might have been a reason “WHY”.
Gifford, without going through the State Legislature, “sold all the state owned buildings to the Chinese. Then, rented them back at the expense of the taxpayers in Arizona!”
That’s why that person shot her. It was well reported what she did in Arizona. Yet, the MSM’s never spoke on it at all.
______________________

#2)
“Expanding Veterans Mental Health Care”

16 March 2017 by Senator John Boozman (R-Ark).

Evidently he’s aware of the problems VHA’s nationwide are having on hiring professional mental health professionals!
Yet, I’m pretty sure he’s unaware of the incompetence permeating throughout the VHA’s over how they come to a conclusion why a veteran is actually placed, albeit wrongly, on this list to not own firearms!

cj
cj

What the hell is wrong with Military.com and putting out a headline like that? Are they now “that” left leaning?
Thank you on the information about Gifford. This is the first I have heard about this. She must have used the Rockefeller business model, the one used to print US currency, and then charge interest for doing so. One more drain the swamp issue to take care of. Let the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA print it’s own money, not the Rockefeller printing scheme. Concerning the national debt, how can you owe interest on money you printed?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“cj”
It’s true we print the money. The “Interest” we pay is to the Federal Reserve.
Google the Federal Reserve to find out more.
Hint: The Federal Reserve is neither a Federal entity or does it have any money in reserve.
It was established during Pres. Wilson’s administration. You remember him, the “Bigoted Racist asswipe who got us involved in WWI” !!!!!!!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“cj”
I forgot. Wilson was a full blown Dumpocrap asswipe!

namnibor
namnibor

My great grandmother would seethe with the anger of brimstone and sulfur when talking about Wilson. She was not a fan and not afraid to tell we grandkids at time.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

“cj”
My wife told me about what Gifford had done “BEFORE” she was shot.
Like I said, it wasn’t widely publicized outside of Arizona at the time.
Shortly after, she was shot.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I am not defending military dot com, but at least they had the sense to include the quote from Phil Roe, chairman of the House VA Committee. He adds much more context to this issue that all of the crap spouted by the hacks opposing this legislation.

[“It’s disgraceful because the VA doesn’t determine the veteran is actually dangerous before sending the name to the FBI. They only look at if the veteran needs help looking at his or her financial affairs,” said Rep. Phil Roe, R-Tenn., chairman of the House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs. “Unfortunately, the VA’s decision has serious consequences for the veteran, including losing his or her Second Amendment rights.”]

cj
cj

@91Veteran: I have to admit, I never read the article, just the headline. It could have been a total pro veteran article for all I know. It just struck me as insulting. Next time I WILL read the article before commenting. On McCain being unhinged: Remember when he ran against Obama? at the RNC convention. Remember his speech? When he raised his fist and yelled something about fighting, and the crowds went wild. After that because of the reaction, he kept punching his fist and yelling fight. In between fight was completely unintelligible. Just like that unhinged person everyone is talking about. He is one traitorous, senile old bastard, and correct, he and Graham, both the perfect poster children for term limits.

91Veteran
91Veteran

No worries on the article CJ. It wouldn’t have had any balance without Roe’s quote. They likely would have left it out if he wasn’t chair of the House VA committee.

cj
cj

@91Veteran: Been a heck of a week. Bens blog has been busy as can be. I wonder why VA employee’s have beeen chiming in so much lately? Something must be going on.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, you still up?

cj
cj

@Ex va: Yes still awake, how are you?

cj
cj

Along with their Aunt Pelosi.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Crazy Elf, you should read this NPR report on that legislation.

They say it will add a hurdle to blocking a veteran from getting a gun by…requiring a judge declare the veteran incompetent. Such HORRORS!

WTF? So it’s horrible to have a judge involved in declaring someone incompetent like every other American?

They spout the usual BS leftist talking points, including quoting Chiarelli, without ever disclosing in the story that he is a part of that “Veterans Coalition for Common Sense” front group for the leftist, anti-gun Americans for a Responsible Solutions.

I so hope Trump zeroes out their budget.

“http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/17/520510426/house-oks-bill-allowing-mentally-incapacitated-veterans-to-buy-guns”

Dennis
Dennis

In an unusual move, the VA decided to immediately remove the boots stuck up their asses by those wearing them. One internet video of the facility shows “Skipper” banging his captains hat first on Chief of Staff Gilligan’s head and then in an unprecedented move began whacking all the Gilligan clones at VA in like manner. The union representing the facility, AFGE, has filed a stay order in Federal Court halting the decision to place temporary photos into the picture frames. They are demanding mid term negotiations as required under contract, citing the fact that requiring independant thought from VA leadership represents a safety of workplace issue within the facility which requires a renegotiation of contract terms under section 7.2.9.a(1) of the contract.

Secretary Shulkin responded to Congress over the matter, “Our healthcare employees are ‘hands-down’ the best employees we can get. Unfortunately the ‘heads-up’ employees in healthcare are not currently available due to budget shortfalls, and I urge you to pass additional spending for veterans care which of course will be diverted immediately to posters of me and the other guy at once.”

Meanwhile Congressman Brian Mast has been placed under the authority of the Disruptive Behavior Committee, and a Cat One PRF has been entered at the direction of Chief of Staff Maloni Rabini Mustaffa Amin, PHD of Mozambique, and all of his future visits for care he must be accompanied by an armed US federal agent into all spaces.

namnibor
namnibor

Would those “heads-up employees” happen to be giving themselves expert prostate self-examinations? You know, eyes to the brown eye, just to be sure?

New VA Directive via Central Office: No Veteran shall touch any walls at any VA Facility with the exception of the Mental Health Ward where the VA spared no expense on walls that you can run your tongue up and down that are imbibed with all kinds of fun pharmaceuticals: THOSE walls are okay to touch, and of course lick. Any other VA Facility walls are sacred AFGE halls and shall not be blasphemed by the touch of a lowly Veteran. The VA CARES.

cj
cj

@Dennis: OMG, Dennis, your right about it being a “union safety in the workplace issue” I forgot how absolutely dangerous hanging temporary pictures can be.. This is just a small list of things I can see posing a danger, the first one has a very high probability of occurring. once a box of President Trumps pictures are opened. OLDMARINE brought this one to my attention.

1. T.A.I.D. but not to worry, impeachara can be handed out to union member “before” opening the boxes.
2. Slipped disc, or even worse, herniated disc.
3. Severe PTSD once the union member realizes that by carrying a box of the Presidents pictures, He is actually “hugging” the President.
4. You all have hit your thumb with a hammer and know how debilitating that is.
5. Did anyone think of how terrible it would be if a union member started to choke on eating crow?
6. The dreaded paper cut, you KNOW how terrible this one can be, especially if an infection occurs.
Now I have cerebral issues so I am sure I have missed a whole slue of safety issues. But I can see how profound Dennis’s insight is here. Dennis, you just might have saved lives here. good catch.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

OK,
This just out from “WDBO” radio news at noon.
President Trump said during his meeting today “…with top VA Officials…” , “…There’s been enough horror stories out about VA…”, “… We’re going to protect those who have protected us!”
This is just before he will be “taking off on Air Force One” to come to West Palm Beach, Florida, this afternoon. His security detail and limo’s are already here.
Side Note;
Maybe “Frank” will have to explain to President Trump, and his team, “WHY” he used his work computer, while at work at West Palm Beach VHA, to comment on here! Might be a very interesting situation for “Frankie Boy”!!!!!!!!

Now’s the time to let your VHA healthcare employees know exactly how you feel about them!!!!!!!!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I also want everyone to put their feelings on the comments on here. Because I’ll have the wife send all of Ben’s Blogs off to President Trump and his son Eric Trump.
They are following my wife. Therefore he’s following Ben!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

P.S.
I’m also having the wife explain to President Trump and Eric about the “NO RECORDING (VIDEO/AUDIO) at VHA’s Nationwide BULLSHIT!

We older veterans need help in remembering facts on medications and healthcare steps to ensure we’re doing things correctly.
This “No Recording” inside VHA’s nationwide is a hindrance of our well-being!

Tell me what you think of this! The wife is sending today’s blog off right now to President Trump and Eric by “Twitter”! We all know he’s an avid Twitter follower!

lawyerlynn
lawyerlynn

“… We’re going to protect those who have protected us!”

Trump didn’t say “veterans”.

Who is “us”?
And who has been protecting them?
Those are the true questions.
Because the answer will tell you who he’s talking about.
It sure is not the veterans or he would say so.
Unless the head (((boss))) of Trump will not let him say who he’s talking about.
LOL. Trump is president of the corporation. Who is a member of that corporation?
Hint: read Supreme court justice Roberts opinion on the obamacare mandate.
That decision explains the corporation and the shadow gov.
It’s quite a long slog, though. Good luck and dog bless.

namnibor
namnibor

I think your tinfoil hat has grown a bit thin and the microwaves might be affecting your mood or you may just have a leprechaun bug up your ass, it is St. Pat’s after all.

lawyerlynn
lawyerlynn

I myself believe those are legitimate questions.
Who wants to shut down legit questions, even if they are the hard questions?
And why would any vet want to make fun and mock another, especially one who is trying to get legitimate questions answered.

Rather than responding with childishness and name-calling, you could answer the questions, since you seem to have a handle on everything. Thank you and dog bless.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

look into this…………Christopher Story – Leo Wanta: The 31 Trillion Dollar Man ……………….

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I think you might find this of interest!
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/26-Mar-2006.html

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Critical Knowledge; The Legal Ownership of All Souls by the Vatican..since 1306!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

lawerlynn,
“News Nugget!” President Trump was talking about the VA!
Only veterans can use VA at VHA’s nationwide!
I agree with namnibor. Your “tinfoil hat has grown a bit thin…” and I would add a little too tight! Maybe it’s cutting off circulation to whatever brain cells you have left!

And, lastly, it’s NOT “dog bless”, IT’S “GOD BLESS!”

What are you, a fuckin’ Muslim TROLL!

namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf- I was trying to give benefit of doubt that she perhaps is dyslexic with the “dog bless” thing but I think you’re correct, I was being to generous and should have said something as well because it rubbed me the wrong way and made the hair on my neck and back stand-up like a wolverine. It’s God Bless, aluminum foil heavier thickness next time.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

can you send me in the right direction about this….what Gifford had done “BEFORE” she was shot ….i cant find any thing on it and am allways looking for real truth instead of the MSM bullshit

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

OLDMARINE,
You won’t find anything about what Gifford did before she was shot.
As I stated, it was only broadcasted through a few minor news outlets, not the MSM’s.
The info has probably been scrubbed from everywhere.
I found out about it through my wife. Who lived in Arizona during this time period.
It NEVER made headlines at all!

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

thanks for the reply

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

A chemistry professor at a large college had some exchange students in the class.

One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, a foreign student, who kept rubbing his back, and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist government.

In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question: “Do you know how to catch wild pigs?”

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.

The young man said this was no joke and explained:

“You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again.

You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat; you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught.

Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.”

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America.

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: Definately food for thought. Perfect analysis of the current state of affairs. I tell my son he has no clue of how many freedoms he has lost, between the time I was his age and now. He never lived it, so he doesn’t know he is missing it.

Cantigny
Cantigny

>>What would be great is to see President Trump coordinate massive deviations from flawed VA protocol related to how it processes appeals, too. Maybe this is a first step to using common sense solutions.

indeed. i keep hoping. if WH is going to upgrade USA military, which it needs, i do hope he and his admin start really fixing the VA…he’s going to be sending more troops about the worlds hotspots, he sure as hell better start real reforms at VA.

he spoke about it, got veteran block to vote for him, so follow through Mr Trump!!!

>>What do you think?

if the other half of this country cannot see now what most of VA is all about, they never will. its left up to the other half of this country to push for true reform at VA.

also, to hell with McCain, Ryan & Graham, for starters!!! these guys are nothing less than saboteurs of Trump’s admin and are totally bought and paid for puppets. and do get ride of the obama holdovers, all of them it seems will put politics before “doing the right thing”.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

the other thing I would suggest is get rid of the BONUS money if they cant live on a good salary they need to go elsewhere. i am sure there are a lot of good honest people that would take a straight salary and do a good job…

cj
cj

@OLDMARINE: Thank you, I couldn’t have said it better myself. In fact I was just finishing up a 30 page rant, that you just reduced a few key words. A good sign I need to get some sleep.

91Veteran
91Veteran

I know what you are saying Cantigny, but when you have sitting Congressmen and former generals opposing a veteran having rights equal to any other citizen, I don’t think they give a damn about those same veterans getting lousy treatment by the VA.

JOHN COKOS
JOHN COKOS

Don’t waste any time on the Trump portrait story and spend the time finding out just how the HUD program that covers housing for Homeless Veteran’s that is being defunded will impact Veteran’s.Who gives a crap about a Trump portrait ?

Rosebud
Rosebud

What about the 500,000 veterans that depend on meals-on-wheels that trump is going to cut in his recently announced budget. He’s bannon’s puppet.

Dennis
Dennis

I suggest those vets who depend on meals on wheels instead learn to find meals on the hoof. Poaching is not just for eggs anymore.

JOHN COKOS
JOHN COKOS

Crazy Elf: Recording in ANY PUBLIC Federal Building has been found to be a protected activity thru Federal Court Case ruling. ANYTHING to the contrary is just internal policy.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

John Cokos,
That “protected activity” could, and should, be overturned by the Supreme Court to make it legal in some cases; ie: doctor/patient appointments. Where the patient can remember how and what the doctor (healthcare provider) said!
As far as “internal policies”, same as my previous statement!

Why do you always come on here, and other websites, to shut down any good idea someone might have?

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

P.S.
JOHN COKOS,
Down here in Florida a couple years ago, ( 2+/- 1), physicians went on Local News Stations and reported they “…record all appointments…” between the physicians and patients! Their reasoning was (paraphrasing); It insures the patient(s) follow instructions they may forget after leaving!
This “reasoning” is beyond any “INTELLIGENT THEORY” by physicians at VHA’s nationwide!

Every year Vietnam Veterans, Korean War Veteran and WWII Veterans are getting older. Our “attention span” isn’t what it used to be!
Our “hearing” isn’t what it used to be!
Some veterans don’t have the “Luxury” of having a “significant other” to be with them at VA. To help the veteran with instructions given by the physician!

Therefore, “Recording the physician is, in my opinion, a great idea!”

No matter what you say, it will never change my mind!

cj
cj

@ANutterVet,@Ex va: Wondering where you guys are at, and hopping your okay. If you see this, Hope you have a great St Pat’s day.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, @ANutterVet, sorry i haven’t been on except too late at night. Hope you both had a great St. Patricks Day.

namnibor
namnibor

Not so much a crowds fan here. Don’t do bars. Not Catholic. Being an USAF Veteran, I naturally tend to gravitate to blue instead of green. Just listening to some relaxing music and reading an instruction manual. Very nerdy leprechaun here.

However, I hear the VA placed all brand new green urinal cakes in the bathrooms for the occasion. The Canteen Cafeteria had Gangrene Green Loafing Meat with a side of fava beans to celebrate the day.

Ex va
Ex va

@namnibor, yeah, the luck of the irish with green urinal cakes!!! LMAO!! Don’t eat the mystery meat in the cafeteria!!!! Fava beans !!!! Yeah Hannibal would like that.!!!

91Veteran
91Veteran

Sorry Ben. A first step towards common sense solutions would have been for that hospital management to join in the hanging of the pictures temporarily while explaining they would have to be replaced with official portraits once they were received.

I don’t but the excuse that the directive to remove them came from VACO. I see some bureaucrat being misleading. Yes, the policy of waiting for official portraits likely came from VACO, but I can’t believe a bureaucrat got another flunky at VACO on the phone who ordered them removed.

Unless they had the super secret phone number of someone who would actually answer the phone.

I also can’t believe the order to the spokeshack to publicly respond like an ass came from VACO either. That order came directly from being arrogant and the belief they are untouchable.

And finger-pointing at GSA? Really?

The whole issue shows how locked into following policy these people are when it suits them.

If brains were gas they wouldn’t have enough to fire a piss-ants motorcycle around a cheerio.

namnibor
namnibor

“[The whole issue shows how locked into following policy these people are when it suits them.

If brains were gas they wouldn’t have enough to fire a piss-ants motorcycle around a cheerio.]”

LMAO! 🙂

namnibor
namnibor

Lots of aardvark shaped VA hacks, so that piss-ant would also be in danger as well as the cheerio of getting eaten.

Windguy
Windguy

Nice distraction. Let’s focus on a couple pictures of a couple dickheads, and not pay attention to the fact that the VA is driving a bus over two generations veterans. MABAaaaaaaa Make America Bleed Again and again and agin

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Try again Windguy, there’s about 4 or 5 generations of veterans VA’s been fuckin’!

Windguy
Windguy

C’mon elf – just trying to keep it contemporary. Roman soldiers got fucked too.

Dennis
Dennis

I blame it all on nasty women.

Maybe the REAL reason Trumps photo didnt go up was they were still trying to airbrush cleavage onto Hillary’s photo until VA had authenticated the election? There is ALWAYS hope for men when nasty women with cleavage are around. Who the hell is gonna find hope looking at a president who looks like he bit into his first lemon? Either that or he got photographed pinching off a brick but either way I am thinking maybe VA had another good idea and were caught off guard that people cast vote in America still.

I’ll run the idea past our new Chief Of Staff at Roseburg who hails from India. I haven’t seen if she has decent cleavage yet and the jury is still out on whether she is nasty or not, but maybe this is a shift towards more veteran-centric care?

My SECOND act as a newly appointed VA chief would be to demand nurses go topless. My FIRST act as new chief would be to demand the femal adminstrators cover up completely. My campaign is run on Hope!

namnibor
namnibor

@Dennis- The RAND Corporation has concluded that looking upon the sights of Diane Rubens topless would be more detrimental to Veterans minds and bodies than if it were Medusa’s Face alone.
The VA concurs with RAND because the VA has been testing authenticated photo portraits of Diane Rubens and testing between topless and regular face-shot only Diane Rubens photos, and have concluded that both types of photos of Diane Rubens, topless or not, are very effective in turning CAT 5 Disruptive Behavior Committee Veterans to stone either way.
However, the topless method seemed to cause Vets to take their own lives by any immediately available means. Highly effective. Dept. of Defense shall be testing Diane Rubens Disruptive Bombs against ISIS in coming months. So far, everyone wants to become stoned before being exposed to the Diane Rubens Disruptive Bomb and many went as far as scratching their own eyes out to limit exposure.

RAND Corp. does not recommend any topless VA nurses unless cold stone veteran props are needed for reelection congress critters as stage props. In that case, we will always recommend the Diane Rubens Disruptive Bomb.

js
js

There is no sense like common sense. Kings have fallen and nations destroyed for ignoring it.

cj
cj

@js: js, I have never heard that quote before, I think it is words to live by. Most excellent, Thank you.

Rosebud
Rosebud

No wonder there’s the current USMC facebook porn scandal with sexist attitudes like Dennis. Thanks.

cj
cj

@Ex va,@ANutterVet: Hey Ex va, how are you tonight? I read your post. I am just as guilty, of not being here at the same time as you and ANutterVet. Been crashing most of the day, and commenting early in the am. Too many appointments, it tires me out badly. Hope the both of you have been doing well.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, i had somethings i had to do today too. Glad your keeping your appointments. i missed out on a funeral this week. i was too sick to attend.

cj
cj

@Ex va,@ANutterVet: I wll be back a bit later on.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, i will check later on for ya. I hope ANutterVet is doing better. I am doing a little better.

cj
cj

@Ex va: Still here Ex va?

Ex va
Ex va

@ cj, glad to see you!

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, still here?

cj
cj

@Ex va: Ex va, can you hold on a minute? I will be right back, I need to reboot.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, go ahead i will be here.

Lily
Lily

This disability website vets yuku is infiltrated by VA lackies. I saw a comment on it that said “Go to the VA, they love vets”. So I asked why they were shills for the VA and got banned. I just went to spy on them and caught them lying to Vets about benefits. They keep saying vets who don’t go to the VAMC will get their benefits reduced. They lied to me by claiming I couldn’t request VA compensation for my injuries.

Ex va
Ex va

@ Lily don’t understand what you are saying about this disability website. We get trolls on here occasionally and va employees who have an ax to grind sometime.you can always put ina claim for compensation for injuries. Ask a question someone can help and answer.

Ex va
Ex va

@ lily can you be a little more specific what you have been. Dealing with?

cj
cj

@Ex va: I think Lily is talking about a website called “vets yuku”

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

yes she is

Lily
Lily

This is a great site. I was reporting a site called vets.yuku . I was over there and it’s the exact opposite of this site. At vets.yuku they act like the VA is Disneyland.

cj
cj

@Lily: Lily, veterans on this blog stick together. We have each other backs. It is busier during the day, and most of the veterans can point you in the right direction if you have questions about filing a disability claim. Each day Ben post’s another topic that we all read, and then comment on. Some days we get off topic and just say what’s on our minds. All good people here, we really do all care about veterans first.

Ex va
Ex va

@cj, you doing ok? This weather has been messing with me. Hands really swollen and back is hurting bad too.

cj
cj

@Ex va: Yes Ex va, I am doing pretty good. Sorry to hear the weather is messing you up. We should answer Lily