Another Veteran Suicide In Front Of VA Emergency Department

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Reports have now floated across the blogosphere that another veteran suicide by gun occurred recently in front of the Amarillo VA, located in Texas.

At the end of last month, one veteran committed suicide in front of the Thomas E. Creek VA Medical Center on a Wednesday morning. One of my readers messaged me yesterday and asked me to highlight the veteran’s suicide that likely was the result of poor or mismanaged mental health care at the facility.

The Amarillo Police Department was called to the VA Medical Center at 6010 W. Amarillo Blvd. shortly after 7 a.m. to find a man, whose name has not been released. That man was dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Veteran Suicide Statement

“This morning, a veteran took his life in the front of the main hospital of the Thomas E. Creek VA Medical Center,” Barbara Moore, Chief of Community and Patient Services at the VA hospital, said in a statement.

“In order to protect the veteran’s privacy, we are not able to share any additional details. Our deepest condolences are extended to friends and family of the veteran. We are cooperating with local authorities on the investigation.”

Is silence what the veteran wanted? Is VA truly trying to protect the dead veteran’s suicide or are they trying to cover up the epidemic of veteran suicides nationwide?

Remember Albuquerque?

This is essentially the same song and dance Albuquerque VA gave me after I inquired into a similar suicide outside that medical facility.

Only there, Albuquerque police claimed they were not involved in investigating or responding to the incident, citing the facility was on federal property. Apparently, the agency’s ability to keep things quiet depends on the state that facility is in.

RELATED: Media Blackout Of Bloody Veteran Suicide At Albuquerque VA

The VA spokesperson said according to the latest statistics from the VA, approximately 20 veterans commit suicide each day, and six are in some type of VA care program.

VA has been unable to make a substantive dent in the number of daily veteran suicides despite record funding and research into the crisis since the start of the Iraq War.

RELATED: No Media For Veteran Suicide Linked To Minneapolis VA Care

“We urge veterans experiencing a crisis, as well as their family members, to contact the Veterans Crisis Line at 800-273-8255 (press 1),” Moore wrote. “This line is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week.”

Source: http://amarillo.com/local-news/news/2017-07-26/veteran-commits-suicide-front-amarillo-va-hospital

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191 COMMENTS

  1. I’m not really surprised. I’ve gone to psychiatrist and psychologist since year 2001 to see what they have to offer and it hasn’t been helpful. Most of what I do to handle my PTSD is holistic. When has a therapist told you that a negative ion generator can relieve your stress? When has a therapist told you that keeping your room medium humidity will enable your body to produce melatonin so you can sleep better? When has a therapist told you that Vitamin C will lower your stress chemically by counteracting the stress hormone cortisol? Has a therapist ever told you that yoga breathing for 15 minutes laying on the ground will relieve stress? Did your therapist tell you to listen to stress relief music all the time when alone in your room to relieve stress? When has a therapist said to take phospadylserine to increase your focus and relieve your sense of hyperactivity? Did a therapist tell you that taking triple strength fish oil will help with depression? Did a therapist ever recommend to you to a full body self massage yourself every day? When has a therapist recommended Qi Gong for stress relief? See the point is I’ve gone to these therapist and all that happens is I talk and they talk. I leave and feel a little well getting some things off my chest but that’s about it. It’s usually more counterproductive since I feel my therapist right now is more concerned with getting my VA Compensation down than actually helping me.

    Another thing therapist don’t tell you is that caffeine can be bad for anxiety, increase cortisol and cause other problems. Yet every time I walk in the vet center the first question they ask me is “do you want some coffee”? I saw some guy come in the vet center for therapy and take a cup of coffee the other day. I just thought “that’s not a good idea if you have anxiety problems”.

    • Lily, I do some of the things you do and that’s what helps me the best. Especially the music. As for seeing the psyc, the only benefit I get from that is the $24 for gas money.

      • Somebody tell me, Why won’t they allow cameras at the Miami VA? Oh! What could they possibly be doing wrong?

      • That’s good you do those things too and they help. We need something and this therapy is pretty weak stuff. I don’t take meds because I got hallucinations from them the last time.

    • When I go to my psychologists, I do not offer anything about what I’m going through. I know for a fact that any information you give about your self can and will be used against you. That how they rationalize the need for the disruptive committee.

      Every veteran suffering from ptsd and or traumatic brain injury is automatically considered a threat or could become a threat sometime in the future.

      Now your a veteran with ptsd and or traumatic brain injury and having a bad day and the VA employees see this, do they approach the veterans and ask what’s wrong or ask if they are ok and offer help !..

      Or do these employees see the veterans in distress and pick up the phone and call the police and the police Hoover near by, the veterans see the police and their 38 special peeking around the corner.

      Or do these employees see the veterans as a threat or could become a threat. The veteran thinking about killing themselves and speak loudly or act some other way and this is threatening and the VA kicks the guy out, without trying to find out what’s going on.

      I do not believe these employees even care and will do what ever they can to make the veterans even madder.

      Let’s see ptsd, traumatic brain injury and the veteran is on high dose of medication and act strange to the employee. That must be really scary for the employee !

      One would think these employees knew that they worked at a VA hospital and should expect situations like the above and know how to handle it.

      Nope, claiming that the veterans are disturbing other veterans or employees and then reported as a threat or could become a threat sometime in the future.

      Too many stories of wrongdoing by VA employees for everyone to be wrong.

      Every veteran needs to get a copy of their medical records and read what VA employees are really saying about the veterans behind their backs.

      Veterans are nothing more than an excuse to get a pay check, if we live or die is of no consequence to VA employees.

      There will always be more.

      • James, Nice write up and comments. I enjoyed reading it.
        The VA Doctors (non Veterans) are evil here in at Akron Ohio VA, and Wade Park Cleveland VA. Just down right sinister. I never met medical employees and doctors so utter hateful, disrespectfully, unethical, and down right unprofessional like here at the Ohio VAs.
        Here are few:
        1. Peter Barach AKA Dr. Frankenstein (non Veteran Draft Dodger 1969-1973, Draft deferment or military waiver for mental illness 1969 to 1975) Wade Park Cleveland Ohio VA, AKA “The Monster of Shaker Heights” Cleveland Ohio. Peter Barach grew up across the street from the Wade Park Cleveland Ohio VA. His family and his friend work there. Flunked out at John Hopkins University in 1972, and ended up at Ann Arbor Mi to finish a degree in children (kindengarten science). Got back home in “Shaker Height” Cleveland Ohio, then went to college at the Western Reserve across the street from where he lived. Just amazing, never seen a more clear cut case of NEPOTISM, like Peter Barach’s story. Dude lies on injured former soldier’s C and P exams and sabotages vunerable veteran’s claims with impunity…
        2. Pamela Sue Sherer Non Veteran Waterloo Road Akron Ohio VA, and
        3. Eric Canna (non veteran) Waterloo Road Akron Ohio VA.

        They are down right hateful these non veteran employees here at the Ohio VAs, manipulating medical notes, obtaining in service treatment notes prior to the veteran’s obtaining the in service medical notes, and thus screening the veterans out of injury claims, manipulating symptoms in order to make disorders look like non claimable disorders. They cover-up past suffering from the lack of care by the VA. There nothing that these non veteran employees are not doing to the vulnerable veterans. They stick together like a “Pedophile Ring”.

        If you contact senator Sherrod Brown (D) Ohio, or Congressman Tim Ryan (D) Ohio, these VA employees circle wagons and retaliate against the injured veterans and disabled former soldiers. It is terrible here in Ohio. The only ones that are protected is the non veteran VA employees, and NOT the vulnerable veterans. Injuried former soldiers and disabled veterans need to file 10 and 15 claims in Ohio. Tens-of-millions of dollars have been stolen from the VA by this Ohio Director, and his toadies, who now in federal prison for numerous felonies. The only ones benefits and getting paid, and getting good health care in Ohio, is the VA non veteran employees. It is world turned up side down with these self serving nuts.

  2. I put this article on here yesterday. Maybe it’s time for a redue!
    From: “Military.com/Daily News”
    Dated: 14 August 2017
    Titled:

    “‘Parking Lot’ Suicides Roil VA Hospitals”

    By: Richard Sisk

    In the article, Secretary of VA, Dr. Shulkin, says he can’t understand why veterans are committing suicide in VA parking lots! He believes it’s being done so family members won’t find the bodies and that the VA can take care of the veterans body! (Horseshit!)
    Veterans know the “WHY”! It’s because the Veterans are receiving pisspoor healthcare!

    Read the article. It’s very enlightening!

  3. I’m applying to reopen the Central District of California U S District Court Case 88-6276.

    I’ve been aware since I first filed the case that organic brain syndromes very often play a part in suicide. Probably the most frequent problem is subtle undiagnosed and therefore untreated “anosognosia”. Not the extreme “unilateral neglect”, but the effect of 4 or 5 drinks in an hour that never goes away resulting in fuck ups that you eventually blame some demon that you can only get rid of with a finale exit.

  4. “[…Is silence what the veteran wanted? Is VA truly trying to protect the dead veteran’s suicide or are they trying to cover up the epidemic of veteran suicides nationwide?…]”

    Cover-up, of course. Just in last day or so, VA Sec. Shulkin stated he cannot understand WHY Veterans are killing themselves in front of VAMC’s or in their parking lots.

    They cannot grasp in their feeble egotistical God Syndrome minds that THEY/THE VA, are very much the contributing reason and these suicides are obviously HUGE statements of DESPERATION because of lack of care or just plain shit-care. Shitkin Care.

    RAND Corp. recommends the VA change name to SHITKIN Care or SHITCAN Care. Both are applicable.

  5. Did anyone notice something ridiculous in the picture Ben used?

    Question: Who authorized a “statue of a horse, with the “American Flag”, as a horse blanket”?

    How much did that cost the taxpayers?
    Will that VHA say it’s out there to help calm down veterans?
    I think that statue is just as ridiculous as the “boulder in a pond” the VHA, in northern California, purchased to help calm down veterans! Or, the “Braille Sign” VHA purchased! Or, the “color changing walls and leather couches and chairs” a VHA purchased! ETC., ETC., ETC., ETC.!
    Then, VHA’s nationwide wonder “WHY” they run out of (taxpayers) monies, before the next fiscal year!

    • @Crazy elf — No worries about that horse statue with American Flag draped over it in front of that VAMC in today’s “Bad VA Art”.
      Why never mind?
      Because once some butthurt snowflake decides in the coming days/weeks that General Lee looked at that horse once or anyone the liberals want to erase from American History, the VA Snowflakes will beg congress critters for $$$$$$ to properly smelt the horse down into harmless baby rattles for these libtards that have gone all-out batshit crazy as late.
      Also, I am GLAD pres. Trump called out the bad eggs on both sides of the conflict of civil unrest and mayhem. The snowflakes are all bent out of shape because the driver of that car, as heinous as that was, has not been officially deemed/labeled a terrorist act.
      Well guess what? That asswipe sniper that ambushed/killed many police in Houston, TX from “the other side” was never labeled as he should have been either, “a thug domestic terrorist and group”.
      I said it. So did our POTUS. I’m all for diversity but not the erasure of our history!!

      • Clinging to history? Bull shit. Just another gun totting white supremacist trying to rub honest right thinking people the wrong way. My family passed for white after the civil war and took up your bullshit charm so I know exactly where your “history” lies. Oppression, separate and unequal and just plain violent crap

        Too many bigots on this site for me to support it. Bye

      • I try to live by the mantra “Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit.” It constantly amazes me that other people have to start shit. Enjoy the war for America’s soul. I’m sitting this one out.

      • @Lem, @!Wyldechylde – – – Whoa, history is just that history. Just because someone doesn’t believe that statues that remind us of the Civil War shouldn’t be taken down, doesn’t mean that someone is a bigot. Shall we also go and evaluate the past of things about Democrat Presidents in which we don’t agree with by today’s ever changing standards of almost anything that is a topic or issue of the times? Get past the bigot issue. We all have one common theme, but we’re not united as a group in doing so, and that is to change the VA in whatever manner works to get the job done.

        And, if I know that I’m right, and the VA’s medical protocol has negatively effected my life, then I’m in their fucking face. Nowadays, I don’t give a rats ass if the VA gets upset. They can try to do whatever they want, but I doubt it, because I’ve already put them on notice as a threat to my health and well-being. And, the VA doesn’t know what to think about this. I’ve stirred the pot (wish I had more) of my local VA. I don’t care what they fucking think about me anymore. Their incompetent. I wasn’t like this before. I guess I’m went into Disruptive mode. – – – Nutter.

      • Bull. I was a bigot too much of my life to not recognize the dog whistles. No glory deserved in our racist past. or any flag or statue that represents it. It is a part of history to be settled in the books without any glory. No shrine for Hitler or any like minded individual.

        Quit justifying your fathers the way I did. recognize what you are doing and don’t defend it. Apologize for it. All this shit because we had our first black President.

      • @Lem: Hey Lem, I truly don’t give a shit!!! What the hell is the damn statue made of? Metal? Stone? Everyone getting all worked up over a pet rock, or future bullet? Who the hell cares? Fuck history, you can’t change it, hide it, or pretend it never happened. It just was. All you can do is learn from it. We are not in the past, and it really doesn’t matter what the past means, to any particular person, or group. Fuck! So much time wasted on BS!

        How much time you think you have left on this planet? You really want to waste the time you have left, by letting meaningless shit you can’t change rent this much space in your head? You want to really waste all that energy hating? Okay then, hate away if it makes you happy, your still my brother, even if you view me as a gun toting white bigot. I will not return the hate if you don’t mind, I kinda prefer to enjoy as much of the time left I have, as short as it may be.

        You, me, the damn Snowflakes, need to look at the big picture, and stop getting bogged down by all of the assholes in charge of everything. We need to fight this monster together, side by side. If we ever take this country back and set it on the right course, you just may find out the assholes you been fighting next to, ain’t so different from you after all. Don’t let the progressives win by keeping us at each other’s throats, we need to unite and conquer this shit as one!

        Damnit, have some fun today, go for a walk, find some asshole in a business suit, jump in front of him, bear your teeth, shake your head, and growl like a pirate, and watch his sissy ass take off like a bat out of hell!

        Get into a crowded elevator be the last one on, then turn around and stare at everyone, then when you see that they are freaking out, tell them how you just saved 15% by switching to Gieco.

        You do realize at our age, we can get away with that shit right?
        Yeah yeah, I know, I’m of the tracks woo woo….

      • Plus, the VA Staph keeps probing me with questions, trying to find out what weapons I have, ammunition, where the weapons are located, AND, if there is anyone else that may be part of my support Be observant and careful out there. – – – Nutter.

      • Hey Lem, to fucking extreme on your end. I’ve got a hell of a lot more important issues and concerns in my life. And as far as any distortion goes, many far left liberals who were successful in passing legislation, ones that have negatively effected the things of norm. They need to apologize to me. I guess were at a stale mate unless I perform as you wish. Now shall I tell you what to do?

        Hey Lem, my father would run all many other fathers for not being what? Not being a father to their children. To this day, my elementary classmates have always told me that they remember my dad, because he didn’t act like many other fathers in the neighborhood. They say, “your dad was a good person.”

        Plus, I found both my father and mother deceased at different times. When my pops passed, his viewing was filled with more black people than whites. While sitting next to my father’s casket at the viewing, I watched one person kneel down in front of mom, look her straight in the eyes, then glace at me, then back looking at my mom, and he said, “Peggy, what I’m a going to do now, I lost my best friend.”

        I was stunned, as I watched that man lay his head on my mom’s lap, and weep. I didn’t know what to think of it then. But I surely do now. Lem, I guess what I’m trying to say is, that my father wasn’t as you think that I’ve may have been influenced by. And, I guarantee you, that if you were able to know my father, you may have wondered about yours. No offense to you Bro, just saying. – – – Nutter.

      • Yeh, my dad was well thought of also. Over 200 people at his funeral. But he was still a racists. When he last ask me if, “I’d like my one of my sisters to marry one,” my response was, yes, I know a lot of black men that would make good husbands.

        Why was my father a racist? Probably because his family moved from SC to Missouri after the Civil War and passed for white. Dad never knew our first Bray arrival was an English sea captain who married a black woman in Boston and moved to South Carolina to start a plantation. So I suspect the shit moved down hill from passing for white for economic advantage without telling your decedents and taking up the racist lingo so as not to be found out. So yes, “dog whistles” like protecting our history. It is bull shit. That is not a history that needs protecting. It is one to be remembered but there are no heroes to be memorialized in it. It is just rubbing it in your face bull shit. How would you like to see a statue of Hitler in the middle of the Arlington Cemetery where WWII veterans are buried. Think about what this bull shit means.

      • Lem, what the fuck? If someone wants to be damn racist, let them be. Who cares? They want to suck start old Dodges in the junk yard, hey no skin off my back. Only time it becomes a problem is when they insist I do the same, that is when this white gun toting bigot takes aim. Know what I mean? Freedom means letting people do what ever Frost’s their damn cookies. The problem today isn’t the racist, or bigots, or any other ist’s. The problem today, is one group trying to force feed their beliefs, down everyone else’s throats, and if you say go fuck yourself, then the shit starts getting the fan. It’s time for the fan to be rewired for full on reverse. I know you know what I am trying to say.

        Anyway.

        Later Gators -!¡¡!-

      • Exactly, “force feed beliefs.” And there are just beliefs and unjust beliefs as well as “it doesn’t matter beliefs.”

      • Speaking of beliefs listen to this guy… don’t let the title fool you, he explains belief very well…..

        The Flat Earth and Why They Are Lying To Us About That – YouTube
        “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52blFw9oNBM”

      • @Lem – – – Nothing of the nature in which we’re talking about wasn’t in my environment at home, my father wouldn’t allow. BTW, I’m sorry that your Dad wasn’t more in tune with your feelings, and being less sensitive to how you saw things back then. I was fortunate enough to have a very reasonable father. He had house rules, and he also gave me the opportunity to speak out against them. How?

        We had family meetings. And my pop shared with me, that if I didn’t like some of the rules, that I could call a family meeting to discuss my views, and why the rule(s) should be changed. One thing though, I couldn’t call the meeting based off of selfishness, manipulation, or not being able to present a reasonable case. This was fair to me, and there were many families where it didn’t matter how the members felt. this was the rule, and end of story. Good thing that my dad protected me from certain social beliefs and dramas.

        As far as Hitler goes, I denounce him, even when I first knew of him. But here is the thing, Hitler is a part of our Second World War history. Its separate. The confederate issues, well that’s part of our history, the homeland. Now if they store these items in a museum, not many people would go. There would be no comparison, to the amount of people that would see the items in public. So this brings me to this question;

        Would the population of our Nation be more reminded of this period of time, and the awful things involved during this time period, if these items were tucked away in a pay for see museum, or the items were in public? I believe that there would be more discussion stirred up if these items were let alone. Just my opinion. Oh, I don’t follow or am I involved in a hate group. I forgot, only one that is against the VA. – – – Nutter.

      • As far as Hitler goes…he was a puppet also… and nutter you don’t know when to drop stupid shit you go on and on trying to prove something no one gives a fuck about..lol… burn one and look out the window at nature…..chill

      • The other problem is this, when either side has the momentum going in their favor, then they force feed many distorted beliefs, one in which effects the US population, no matter what road they are physically traveling on. Recently this fast streamlining process has been done. And, both sides of the isle take advantage of the tide when it is in their favor to pass law, judgement, and their idealistic ideas.

        And lets not forget, that there many books that are in classrooms, which has distorted history. And you’d think that when these errors were found, it wasn’t easy to get them off the shelves, or better yet, out of the classrooms.

        Every time there is a fucking movement in our Country, that we go overboard in not analyzing what truly would be the best thing to do. Then we have to clean up the aftermath.

        This reminds me of the movement in removing POTUS, because some believe that he didn’t win. Wrong. These people don’t know squat about the election process. But still you hear, he isn’t my President, when in fact he actually is. I didn’t like many things that wimpy POTUS BO did. Even though it was hard at times, I tried to still refer to him as President. This has been a good thread of a discussion.

        And let us remember, that the main goal for Ben’s site, is to get the VA to change its ways of treating Veterans; Health Care or Claims Process. – – – Nutter.

      • @OLDMARINE- – – Dag nab Ole, thanks for helping me to stop spinning in my tracks. Good call for reminding me. With some, its all the way or nothing. Lem, ok, they don’t belong in a museum either. LMAO, sorry if ruffling da fur. – – – Nutter.

      • Let’s not let the lunacy of the pending lunar eclipse divide us while snowflakes meltdown. Lunar events are also very influential on humans and animals.

      • I am holding rally to remove that horse from the VA. Don’t need a permit it’s federal property. Best no one get in our ways.

      • AGENT G/Jst You can have that horse he was lame anyway….Hope you have better luck with him than i had.I wouldn’t try eating him he seemed perty tuff when i had him..ENJOY…LOL

      • Damn – this shit’s getting pretty tense. Makes me want to break out in show tunes…

        The Inquisition, let’s begin
        The Inquisition, look out sin
        We have a mission to convert the Jews (Jew ja Jew ja Jew ja Jews)
        We’re gonna teach them wrong from right
        We’re gonna help them see the light
        And make an offer that they can’t refuse (that the Jews just can’t Refuse)

    • To, namnibor, Lem and Nutter,
      The following is my opinion, and only my opinion!

      The only reason I mentioned that “Horse”, was because it’s a “monument”, or “statue”, placed there for some reason! Why, I don’t know! I just know a few things for sure!

      A.) It’s had to cost the taxpayers something!
      B.) It had to be approved by someone in that VHA!
      C.) It had to be designed, then built by someone! Were the designer(s) and builder(s) related to someone at that VA?
      D.) Was an interior designer responsible for that statue? If so, how much did that cost the taxpayers?

      These types of wasteful spending has to stop! The VA wastes BILLIONS of taxpayers dollars each year! As do other government agencies!
      For example; Are the “bean counters” still “funneling monies off to help representatives win elections?” As was recently reported, (even by the MSM’s), about that “…multi-million dollar slush fund Obama started at the DOJ to help “radical leftists’ liberal democrat groups!”
      Sorry about facts getting in the way of what some folks want to believe!
      And I’m not trying to start shit on here! These comments are mine, and mine alone.

      • I agree, it is not a proper display of the flag. But it has nothing to do with the dog whistle about “protecting history.”

      • And, by the way, I suspect the horse was there before the VA. It is probably a remnant of a U S Calvary Base Hospital that was turned over to the VA after WWII.

      • — The American Quarter Horse Association & local businesses are responsible for the Horse(s). The businesses buy the fiberglass horses for $3,000 the price includes the horse, a concrete slab, the installation, a plaque & the artist fee of $600 per statue. Each horse weighs about 125 pounds. One article mentions a Ms. Mary Solomon, who sands & paints the horses & spends anywhere from 2wks to 1month on each statue. They do something like this is my town but with cows & then auction them off.
        Theres also loads of obituaries suggesting memorials be to Thomas E. Creek Dept of Veterans Affairs.
        While looking into the horse I came upon the original news article dated 7/26/17 ~
        “http://amarillo.com/local-news/news/2017-07-26/veteran-commits-suicide-front-amarillo-va-hospital”

      • @NiteWish: Well darn NiteWish, I never thought of it being fiberglass. I knew they could find a new use for those quarter operated plastic horses in front of the kmarts,. Not fancy enough to come from a Merry go round.

        Hey wait a minute, Merry go round? VA? Perfect match, NiteWish, your a genius!!!

      • @Crazy elf, @cj, @Wyldechylde, @Lem, @OLDMARINE – – – I hear you elf. Its just that if I don’t belief the same like some, then I’m a bigoted racist. Damn, that’s news to me. Help me here. Does this mean that my black friends, that I’m lying to my self, because I don’t believe in my heart and mind that they’re a friend of my in the first place?

        See how this shit is complicated, confusing to some, and taken well overboard and out of place. Change the contents in the school books, so that we can manipulate our next generation, and lie to them. Sometimes, things are left alone to help us to remember what something shouldn’t be.

        And, I have an issue of believing that the Pig Teachers Association will do an excellent job of describing this time period of our history. And, the truth of how and why it happened in the first place. No more dumbing down of America.

        elf, I know how you feel, and you have nothing to apologize about. We need to always focus on what our goal is about the VA. And, to not waiver off from this. – – – Nutter.

  6. VA response to the nightmare;

    …if you are in crisis, please call the Federal Government worker located maybe up to three thousand miles away who will cheerfully read to you from a pre-printed on screen script. This worker will likely have a good grasp of the english language but feel free at any time to press *#*5 to request an english speaking translator.

    Please listen to the following menu as the options have changed;

    Press 1 if you wake into full terrors and sweats as you drop off to sleep each night,
    Press 2 if you have not slept for more than 15 minutes at a time for more than 5 years,
    Press 3 if the nightmares you have every night were once real,
    Press 4 if it terrifies you to step out the front door of your home,
    Press 5 if the sunrise today felt cold and heartless.

    To repeat these options, press * or stay on the line for the far away federal government worker trained to understand these things to become available to assist you.

    …hold music then ….click….dial tone…..

    The next headlines? Vet commits suicide. VA next response? Just call the federal government if you are in crisis….

    • Well said, Dennis, i.e. they pile the B.S. on top of B.S., ….corporate minimind solutions. Like working in the pentagon or being some cog in the fed bureaucracy,…..more gibberish and then the corporate solution again…………………………………

  7. With the VA number bending research who really believes that Veteran’s suicides are only 22 per day?

    Here is another representation, of so called facts, presented by the VA. In one of their reports they show that suicide rates among Veterans using VHC are 24% more likely to commit suicide.

    “Comparison of Suicide Rates Among Veterans Who Do and Do Not Use VHA Services, 2001–2014”
    “In 2014, male VHA Veterans were only 24 percent more likely to die by suicide than male non-VHA Veterans. Similarly, excess suicide risk among VHA female Veterans decreased from 86 percent to 5 percent between 2001 and 2014.”

    From page 23 of “Suicide Among Veterans and Other Americans 2001–2014, Office of Suicide Prevention, 3 August 2016”

    “https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/docs/2016suicidedatareport.pdf”

    • @Seymore Klearly – – – In the past I researched and found that the number was around 22. But, in the back of my mind, I always thought that the number of suicides whether receiving treatment or not, that this number was skewed. Isn’t it strange, and how the VA uses their manipulation of numbers when they use percentages of a total sum, but yet the VA has been hesitant in publishing the EXACT numbers, and to also publish the TOTAL AMOUNT of Veterans that are receiving help through a VA program, plus the TOTAL AMOUNT of Veterans that aren’t in any VA programs.

      The VA thinks that they’re slick huh? And they think they are pulling the wool over our eyes. Rat Basturds, all of them. Especially Retired Veterans who back up the VA’s bullshit. These people are the worst. – – – Nutter.

      • The only numbers the VA focuses utmost world class accuracy in are performance bonuses and ways to mathematically rip-off and scam taxpayer $$$ for relocation allotments.

        Notice you never hear any public service announcements from the big piggy or otherwise VSO groups out there on our fellow Veterans dying off from Veteran Suicide?
        The VA’s answer: Telemedicine and pharmaceutical blow darts and ice cream. Maybe all three combined at once.

    • @Seymore Kearly: It’s a great question Seymore, I believe that like any Government agency, take unemployment for instance, that the numbers are greatly under reported, and the true number to be at least twice what we are being told. Even the links you posted say 24 percent of those “using the VA” nice slight of hand there. Now let’s add to the mix those Veterans that are suffering with extreme PTSD, are also homeless, and also neglected by the VA. The quack shrinks at the VA are under no obligation to actually treat any Veterans, in reality, at some locations they see as few as 2 Veterans per day. Isn’t that great? Yet Shithead Shill-kin, thinks the reason they do this at the VA, is so the Veterans family won’t find them? He should be fired this instant just for that answer. He belongs sharing a cell with Bubba.

      • AGENT G/jst/RICH B .Here is some fluff for you….Why don’t you steal the whole building at the same time your getting the horse then you can leave the I-care on the wall’s…..You will be famous as the biggest heist in history and didn’t get away with it LOL…U could be a long lost myth in some grade school in another 300 yrs

  8. Oh and I see Shulkin has motivated Minneapolis VAMC to pull a few strings on getting the Veterans suicide rate to climb. Moving Veterans out to a virtual prison that is over crowded to house homeless Veterans. Insuring they cannot get jobs to get back on their feet or maintain a semblance of life as they know it.

    “Veterans Affairs considers dumping Minneapolis veterans in Hastings against their will”
    Monday, August 14, 2017 by Susan Du in News

    “http://www.citypages.com/news/veterans-affairs-considers-dumping-minneapolis-veterans-in-hastings-against-their-will/439907013”

    A special song dedicated to Shulkin: “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmJbuvl1_O4”

    • They have been working on this one for a while. They have prevented the facility from accepting new homeless Veterans and only running at less than 80%. That was to claim the cost to operate the facility doesn’t measure up to the Veterans helped.

  9. The VA doesn’t want to be fixed, …Want proof look at my hair..[NASA]
    Both are a big funnel into the pockets of someone,They want us DEAD,.
    The budget goes higher with no results, Shit rolls down hill so go beyond
    and above the SHITCAN
    And as for VA doctors they make no decisions it gets feed into a computer and lets AI figure it out, That’s why they ask you questions, while they are tapping on their computer, mine asks me does it burn when you urinate and I tell him yes, he says drink more water, I tell him I drink water all day long..But on his report it says no burning that’s why you get shitty results from the VA, he’s feed’s AI bogus shit..Did you ever hear your doctor say it will get kicked back out, that is bullshit also, he can override it but wont .RAND agrees propaganda its good for business

    PROPAGANDA | FULL ENGLISH VERSION (2012)
    “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMr2VrhmFI&feature=youtu.be”
    1,102,168 views

  10. We are getting very whimpy and completely separated from one another “brothers”, their needs to be a peaceful takeover of all VA facilities by us because civilian employees from the street are not cutting the mustard as far as helping us, from this moment forward only list what your MOS was and what you can do now on this blog so that we can write you a resume and get you a career at one the 3rd world VA’s. They are destroying what we need, Health Care and Benefits, tell all veterans NOW! Regardless of why he committed suicide i believe it was the medication that they issue. Don’t let this happen to another veteran!

  11. Got a laugh a couple of minutes ago. The facility Maintenance Man knocked on our door. I thought my K9 was in the back room with the door being closed. When I answered the door to let the MM in, my boy bolted out from the back and put this man backed up almost to the door. Fortunately, when my boy ran towards the door, he had to go past me, so I grabbed him right before he was going to grab the MM.

    Hey you fucking anal licking trolls, do you want to stop by and see me unannounced? Come on over, my boy needs to get the test of flesh in his mouth, so that he will ALWAYS know to protect my wife and I. Good boy my buddy. At least I was able to partially train my protector, due to the VA not backing my up by removing a medication that was proven to give me relief, so that I could get outside and train my K9. I’ll never forgive the VA for fucking up the bonding training that I had planned out.

    One day, I’m going to print the whole story about what happened from my point of view. The VA’s uncompassionate and uncaring behavior has hindered my in many ways, that as a human being, a Veteran, and one that is trying my hardest to hold onto my faith, I will continue to strive in unusual ways, to put the spotlight on the VA, and to be as radical as I can.

    You see, I can do this now. Why? Because I’ve already told the VA Staph, that I don’t give a fuck about your Corruptive Behavior Committee, your EPERS database, the fucking Veterans Court, the Police, or any other fucking Authority.

    I have the damn proof of what is going on with my health. It me!!! If they are so concerned about my health, welfare, and well-being, then hey, I invite any one of them to come and visit me, then write and sign an evaluation report about their observations of me. Then they can compare their non-progress report to what the VA states. Guaranteed, there will be a dramatic differences of opinion in each report. Again, bring it on mother fuckers (VA).

    You see, the VA will delay in sending me a real trained Medical Physician to my residence. But yet, they will send out a visiting Nurse contracted via a 3rd Party. The VA doesn’t want to put their signature on anything that shows that the fault is of the VA.

    But no worries VA, I’m not your normal Veteran. I’m messed up, and I’ll mess you (the VA) up. There are many ways to do this without acting in a criminal manner. And believe me, many tactics have crossed my mind. There are other useful ways to embarrass the VA into change. Shit VA, you’re not fooling this Sailor. Kiss off you bitches (referring to a female dog). – – – Nutter.

  12. Rise and Shine Veterans does anyone used the Choice Card for me to say it’s a mess especially in Veteran Medical Center in Manchester, New Hampshire to bad all Veterans can’t email just one Senators and Representative share our belief how to improve Veterans Healthcare but in any one reads who lived in New Hampshire tell me please let me know so we call bug the Shit out of our Senators and Representative our belief how to improve Veterans Healthcare.

    • Concerned Veteran- Unfortunately, our loving Representatives believe that the VA is fine. Or, they’re ignoring that the VA has problems. I tend to believe the latter. Their wimpy. – – – Nutter.

      • ANutterVet have you ever call your Senators and Representative share your beliefs how improve Veterans Health Care as for i won’t Surrender my belief hired at least one at any Veteran Medical Center a Cosmetic Dentistry Dentist that know how to put in G4implants unfortunately they have not one works for a Veteran Medical Center plus their isn’t not one has a contract with Veteran Affairs Admistratation.

      • Concerned Veteran, there is no way the VA will pay out over $30,000 for useful & needed implants when they can get dentures for $1,500. They just won’t pay.

    • Concerned Veteran,

      Sorry that I have to tell you that Veterans Health care connected to the VAMC Manchester in New Hampshire just took a bad turn of the worse. On Monday, Gov. Chris Sununu signed an executive order allowing VA Health Care Providers to treat patients at outside facilities.

      Most likely that will include all the Doctors, J1 Visa holders, Pharmacist, Nurses and Physician Assistants that act as Primary Care Physicians. Also, it means that not only will they not only be collecting a paycheck from the VA but they will no doubt be getting additional pay through the Veterans Choice Program.

      Pretty sure these fake doctors will also be seeing Medicare and Medicaid patients. So not only are the Veterans in New Hampshire getting screwed, but anyone on any government health care plan is.

      Source: “VA doctors to treat patients outside hospital; new town hall meeting scheduled”, Associated Press, Tuesday, August 15, 2017
      “http://www.concordmonitor.com/VA-announces-town-hall-meeting-on-Manchester-facility-11879381”

      • I would say that everyone should call the White House Veterans Help line and complain, but: “The Veterans Affairs Department pushed back the launch of its new White House VA Hotline by two months. VA needs more time so it can hire mostly veterans to answer hotline calls. The current pilot hotline is open Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. through 5 p.m. It’ll be a 24-hour operation no later than Oct. 15. (Department of Veterans Affairs)”

        Source: “No sequestration for agencies this year”, By Eric White, August 15, 2017 8:24 am

        “https://federalnewsradio.com/federal-newscast/2017/08/no-sequestration-for-agencies-this-year/”

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    • Choice is indeed a pain in the ass. The beltway hacks that run it and employ drones are there to save the VA money – for which they get a little vig. I have had success with Choice. Polite persistence. Most of those drones are happy to have a low paying job and will easily confess how messed up their own systems are. Appealing to the frustrated voice on the other end can work – not always. I know. We should not have to beg or cajole or con or curse.

      I had another episode with Choice yesterday. After a few seconds of commiserating our “delight” with bureaucracies, she went to work. Yaah – I was on hold for 20 minutes. She’d check back every five and say “hang in there, I’m trying someone else at the VA (Roseburg Dennis). Finally, I’m on the line with Roseburg and Choice. Sure enough – the VA dropped the ball (or hid the weenie). Either way, I get my exam next week.

      It’s too easy to compare the VA to some wretched DMV office when comparing bureaucracies and frustration levels. Besides, the DMV isn’t charged with providing me healthcare. But, in some ways its the same. You can always find a good American on the other end of the line. Keep digging. Don’t expect moonbeams and unicorns. We all run into pasty faced give a shit slob VA employee. I try to save my wrath for those who’ve made the policy decisions the keep the VA in clusterfuck mode.

      Now that I’ve done my feel good deed for the day, I can get bitchy.

      When we were finishing up with Choice and VA three way call, the Choice woman, perfectly programmed, said, “Ma’am, thank you for providing care for our veterans, and sir, thank you for your service”. Fuck me runnin. I went out and sparked one. (yes – legal or not, I still hide in the garage).

    • @Seymore Klearly – – – The ! ~ ~ ~ Double Gurgle ~ ~ ~ isn’t meant towards you, its for the VA, and our caring Politicians who are asleep at the wheel when it comes to the VA. Really getting sore and tired of this. – – – Nutter.

    • Shouldn’t be a mess choice. Dr puts authorization choice calls u pick or they pic and they schedule. Simple easy but dr has to start it.

  13. Office of Accountability shows nothing for this VISN17 or is it VISN18 which has some removals. Seems like reviews are locked out on the Thomas E. Creek VA Medical Center website. Interesting.

  14. The powers that be in the VA I hate to say would rather see veterans commit suicide rather than give them proper medical care. That means more fat bonus checks for them. Who ever came up with the idea to reward managers and supervisors for denying veterans disability and healthcare should be put in front of a firing squad with their cronies.

  15. My therapist started to correct me in the sessions telling me not to use the word “fix” and the phrase “should have”. I read a bad therapist is a corrector. I think I’m going to pretty much ignore the person from now on but keep going until I can’t stand it. I’m just trying to create a record for my next C&P exam so they know I’m trying therapy. I don’t blame other vets for not feeling helped by therapy, it hasn’t helped me much either. This therapist was wearing golf shoes and socks too.

    • What does Psychiatry & racism have to do with each other?
      Watch this 3+hrs YouTube documentary & find out.
      Psychology torture packaged as therapy.
      “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IpLxbg3LaI&list=WL&index=17&t=1894s”

      Illegitimus Non Carborundum = Don’t let the bastards grind you down

  16. The controllers have most of you right where they want you white against black.. democrats against
    republicans they just love infighting .. and most of the people with statues where all traitors to the people but they brainwashed you into thinking they were hero’s …..now let me get back to working on my 4 wheeler black beer and a joint…..and thanks for the black beer tip LEM…..no pain meds, FUCK IT I do what i have to just keep pushing it , dizzy, fuck it I look up and smile and say drop me now…. don’t you know u got to shock the monkey….peter gabriel…LOL

    • When there is in fighting nothing gets done. And when something does get done, it was a longa timeh coming. – – – Nutter.

  17. look what just poped into my mailbox

    WAKE UP, people! Alt-Left and Alt-Right are run by the same forces… the goal is “divide and conquer”
    just what I have been saying…..Beer and a smoke anyone??…Come on namnibor time for a vacation?.LOL

    Wednesday, August 16, 2017 by: Mike Adams
    “http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-16-wake-up-people-alt-left-and-alt-right-are-run-by-the-same-forces-the-goal-is-divide-and-conquer.html”

    • @OLDMARINE – – – Namnibor isn’t the only one that enjoys some fine cured kolas. Send me an untouched doggie bag. Just a little taste alright? – – – Nutter.

      • all it is homegrown nothing special nice mellow shit …that strong shit kicks up my arthritis, and i stare at what i’m doing instead of doing..lol

  18. Pls stop. We’re in this together. Remember A computer program can be used for manipulating the nervous system of a subject located near a monitor can incite people to anger or calm them down. Someone from the silent majority of followers could very well be manipulating this site.[US patient US 20020188164 A1] AND because I’m aware of the tones the VA is using them when on hold with the telephone. The devil is in the details. Be smarter than the serpent.

    • @NiteWish – – – NiteWish – – – I’m seriously thinking about purchasing another Voice Interface Card (VIC), to copy my voice when calling the VA. Now I’m protected. – – – Nutter.

      • ANutterVet, that won’t help. The tones are embedded in the hold music. The one I got was calming. I know I’ve heard it before on youtube at some point. Namnibar is also familiar with tones. He can maybe explain how it all works.

      • Tone generators, and binaural beats, an infinite number of combinations, depending on the desired effect. Used also in ancient times by the high priests, to communicate with their Gods, by way of construction techniques, instead of tone generators.

        Low battery warning.

        Later Gators -!¡¡!-

      • Most of our music and everything we humans make that produces tones are all tuned at 440Hz. The human nervous system can be deeply relaxed by moving that frequency of tones to 432 Hz. A great deal of ambient music produced for assisting people to meditate or relax is indeed tuned to 432 Hz.
        Too high of frequencies of sound can be weaponized and likely have been with CIA experimenting on…Veteran volunteers, as it also goes with the human brain and nervous system can also be easily manipulated via subliminal messages slipped between the fast-moving frames of film…it was SO successful in manipulating smokers and drinkers of soda to leave the movie and have a smoke or buy more concessions that the gov’t. studies supposedly made this type of manipulation (subliminal) against the law to be utilized.
        Just like with those frames of film and subliminal messages tucked between them to manipulate the viewer, audio tones could just as easily have frequencies embedded with similar subliminal messages and that’s part of the recipe on how to make a Manchurian Candidate.
        With that said, does *anyone* believe the VA would ignore the above with VA Telemedicine?
        I don’t.

        Let’s not let the lunacy of the pending lunar eclipse divide us while snowflakes meltdown.

      • Thank You Namnibor, I read somewhere that Oregon is activating its National Guard for crowd control for the Solar Eclipse.

      • Oregon already has activated their National Guard. Heard that on public radio this morning. However, I suspect that activation may also be anticipating probably violent protests and more monuments torn down by BLM…so the lunar eclipse comes in handy as an excuse to activate the hounds.

    • @NiteWish, @Namnibor – – – I’m very familiar with frequency or time periods of that reoccur over and over. A human cell can also be agitated and destroyed by certain level of frequencies. The apex (called another word) and trough of the period of time based off of sine waves.

      Some one can make a lot of money by segmented marketing of a suit of products, that can protect us from all of these types of manipulations (witchcraft- my opinion, no adjustment suggestions needed or wanted, thank you). – – – Nutter.

      • And everything originates from…a sine wave. That’s the basis for Frequency Modulation Synthesis, it’s using multiple sine waves and “Operators” that multiply other frequencies…deep. But everything, down to that “”CLICK”” of flicking a switch in your vehicle or appliance or elevator…has been engineered by sound designers…usually for good intentions…usually…

        I’m thinking the word “SNOWFLAKE” must have 100’s of since waves bouncing all over the place and it’s even more magnified during lunar events such as a lending alignment…Monday….think about it…we may just have to rename this Monday Lunar Eclipse as “The Snowflake Lunar Eclipse”. 🙂

        (fuck your sensitivity)

    • OldMarine, it started hard with the “G’ troll. Look into this letter & its meanings. We’ve been set up that much is true.

      • NiteWish ….your right and I get the G thing…..Just the results they wanted…..But it did come to it’s senses….
        Testing our reactions that is it….When the hammer falls everyone will be a-maze-d ….LOL

      • OldMarine, I can hope its come to pass. ‘they’ didn’t count on me to find them out & rat them out. I feel them lurking, planing phase 2.

      • @OLDMARINE- 🙂 🙂 LMAO 🙂 🙂 “G Flat, the flatter the better…” LMAO 🙂 🙂

        Thanks, I really REALLY needed that!!! 🙂

      • G Sting. Check a little further into Snowflake beyond Schindler. Indeed, the Nazis referred to the ash, and therefore their victims as snowflakes. However, the wider spread use of the term was in the Soviet Union. It started with Russian Jews, and then was used to refer to real or perceived enemies of the state – particularly during Stalin’s years, but well beyond. Funny how the phrase showed up in the last election… ssppppst – maybe it was the Russians..

        Yours truly, Cliff Fucking Clavin

    • Since their not passive, we don’t need to passive as well. They’ll run all over us. And, it has happened before. Repeater again? – – – Nutter.

    • No such luck Dennis.

      It might have to do with the following though.

      “Indigenous veterans president blames ‘snowflakes’ for move to oust him”
      Fellow veterans call Richard Blackwolf’s Facebook posts ‘disgusting’
      By Jason Warick, CBC News Posted: Aug 16, 2017
      “http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/bid-to-oust-indigenous-veterans-president-gains-momentum-1.4249649”

      “Richard Blackwolf is blaming a liberal conspiracy and overly sensitive “snowflakes” for the effort to remove him as president of the Canadian Aboriginal Veterans and Serving Members Association.”

      • “In the armed forces, we are all equal. As veterans, we should all be equal” Steven Ross, grand chief of the Saskatchewan First Nations Veterans Association, Canada

  19. Sometimes I wonder is trollee G, is someone else, only giving his writing a nice shine job to stay in hiding. Just a thought. – – – Nutter.

  20. Gonna take a few months, but I am heading to Oregon. I have family there that I haven’t seen in 20 years, and more. Back in the 80’s Oregon was the most peaceful place I’ve ever lived. Time, and politics will tell. I’m giving up as much of the VA as I can. My friend who went to a VA hospital last week, passed away Sunday. The VA won’t tell the family how, or why he died. I know, it’s because they killed him. His first day there, the VA, in putting a breathe tube down to his lungs to breathe, tore up his throat. The last thing he said to his wife was, Don’t let them bastards kill me. 5 days later, he’s dead. There are no decent Dr.’s in the VA. There Specialists, aren’t specialists. The VA is filled with money grabbing murderers. Shulkin, you can go to hell; and take G with you.

  21. Ohio VA, “A CULTURE OF CORRUPTION”.
    It makes me angry how we (injured former soldiers and disabled veterans) are being treated at the VA. Being a third generation U.S. Army veteran myself it is quiet disgusting, unethical, and totally corrupt. Especially, down here in Ohio at the Akron Ohio VA Clinic on Waterloo Road, and Wade Park VA Cleveland Ohio. The employees are all non veterans from my understanding(at least the ones I am in contact with), and jointly working to keep benefits, entitlements, and quality health care away from those who deserve it and earned it for having suffered and been injured. Non the veterans who already got their benefits, and dont care anymore find the VA perfect. However, I found these VA non veteran employees are screening injured veterans and disabled former soldier by getting their medical notes way, way before the veteran, and “developing to deny” the disabled former soldiers their entitlements, and treating the vulnerable vets as a lawsuit, they must prevent. I really believe these VA non veteran employees could care less, if a vet or fomer soldier is struggling or commits suicide (blows his brains out), ends up homeless while walking the streets confused, or in poverty and losing his wife and children, or addicted to a substances due to their injuries and non stop mental pain. Many of these VA employees Akron Ohio Waterloo Road and Wade Park Cleveland Ohio, that I have come in contact with had never served, never went through basic, never trained, and overall have no idea what a closed institution like the military is like. I never had mental health employees or health care staff treat me so bad, almost as if I am a criminal and i am under investigation. Many of these VA employees gained employment through violating or manipulating nepotism policies. Through my research, this is what is going on at these insitution across the nation (where great salaries and jobs are to be had, social networking and nepotism). For the federal non veteran employee, it is all about big VA pay checks, great VA benefits, VA bonus, VA super health care insurance (that vets dont get), maintaining the VA status quo, covering up unethical behavior, covering up malpractice, VA social networking in order to help their relatives and friends get high paying jobs at the VA, and VA promotions, while all the while keeping the injured veterans and disabled former soldiers from their entitled benefits (A game of keep away). While these non veteran employees forget about why they are there in the first place, and who they are suppose to serve. When a complaint is filed on these diseased animals (VA employees) nothing is done, and the complaint is covered-up. When a complaint is filed, these non veteran VA employees circle wagons on the injured veterans, protect their own VA employee buddies, and disregard the disabled former soldiers and injured veteran’s complaints. Making a fool out of us (vulnerable veterans) because we are injured and unaware of this misbehavior. Instead of putting the VA patients (injured vets) first. These VA employees put us second. While the care of veterans is second. Who’s VA? MYVA, right? The VA in Ohio is a world turned up side down. The VA in Ohio is “A CULTURE OF CORRUPTION”! The VA in Ohio is an employment center for non veterans. To name a few VA employees, Eric Canna VA Akron Ohio Waterloo Road (non Veteran), Pamela Sue Sherer VA Akron Ohio Waterloo Road (non Veteran), and Peter Barach VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio (non Veteran) AKA DR FRANKENSTEIN. Dr. Frankenstein Peter Barach, “the monster of Shaker heights” cleveland Ohio. Peter “NEPO-Barach-ISM” is engaging in corruption, cover ups, unethical C and P exams that favor the VA, and lying on C and P exams that favor the VA, and thus Peter Barach cherry pick medical notes, manipulating symptoms, falsifying disorders, so to create false summary of injuries, all to deny the veteran’s health care, benefits, and to cover up injuries, and years of suffering. Peter Barach, Non Veteran Not veteran Friendly, Not an Advocate to Veterans, Not creating favorable exams. BUT PETER BARACH is a hatchet man, and a benefits assassin being paid at VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio to do corrupt and unethical C and P exams. Hats off to you Peter Barach Wade Park Cleveland Ohio (Non Veteran, Draft Dodger, who most likely had a mental deferment from 1969 to 1975 from military service), for being such a shitty human being, an unprofessional VA employee, and completely unethical doctor.
    If an injured veteran or disabled former soldier wants an honest medical opinion. The vulnerable former soldier must got outside the VA and seeks his own private doctor out in order to get an honest medical opinion, an IME (independent medical examination) to counter the sickness and unethical b.s. by the VA non veteran employees. Even when you do that, you are then retaliated against by other VA non veteran employees for stepping out on the VA. Even when you contact, your senators like senator Sherrod Brown (D) Ohio, Congressman Tim Ryan (D) ohio and state representatives making them aware of the sickness at the VA in Ohio. When you do that. You are then retaliated against as a patient at the VA. The adminstration lies to the congressional aids and the senators aids in Ohio. Questions and Answers are sent back and fourth to the Senator’s and Congressman’s offices treating these aids like pen pals rather then represenatatives to the people of Ohio. The VA adminstration treats these state representatives terrible, and thus lies to the senator’s and congressman’s aid as if they are more like pen pals, then state officials. These adminstrators at the VA lie to Senator Sherrod Brown (D) Ohio, and Congressman Tim Ryan (D) Ohio. Hell would be a way to appropriate place for these sinister VA non veteran employees who lie, falsify medical records, manipulate injuries, manipulate symptoms, omit key elements of injuries, and misdiagnosis veterans for the pure sake of denying them benefits. The care suffers at the VA with so many non veteran employees working at the VA’s here in Ohio, and across the nation. That is my opinion…

    • @VA Nepotism Ohio – – – Welcome VNO. Lost my place twice trying to read. Please use paragraphs. Just hit the enter button when you start to write about something different or new. I’m looking forward to reading your posts, but it kind of got me frustrated going to the same line over again. No offense. Thanks. – – – Nutter.

      • ANutterVet.
        No offense taken at all. I am better than that. I will hit the paragraph button. I was in a haze. It does make sense though. I did re-read it. Everything just becomes a stream of thoughts.

        I know why that soldier in Brian’s article above shot himself. Symbollism. One last f**K you to the VA, and their money hungry employees (non veterans). They refused him the chicken feed, that he gave up so much for. But at the heart of it, it isn’t even the benefits. It is an old story. The losses were too great. Suffering was too high. What do you expect? For many reasons soldiers are committing suicide. Mostly, it is the unstoppable pain, non-stop physical pain, and the relentless emotional pain that can not be turned off. And if it were not for self medicating, many, many, many more veterans would be dead! And even that “numbing of the pain” is held against us by VA non veteran employees!!!
        Thanx ANutterVet. Respectfully, U.S. Army veteran, third generation Army…

    • This is standard for many VA “facilities” tooooo bad these vets don’t commit murder instead of suicide. These VA bureaucrats, non veterans do not deserve to walk the night without trembling. I called once about a job at the Va as an adjudicator, and the lady did not care that I had a law degree, she just wanted someone who had worked for the VA previously, she said, “We have to guard the “government’s” money”…………[ The government’s money???!!!]. I read her the riot act but I believe she was just an answering machine……..
      The VA bureaucracy is a sinkhole with no depth limits……..Is Johnny Boy McCain getting his cancer treatment from the VA????? He must have gotten his mental health treatment from the VA based upon the results…

      • Personally I believe they should make it a requirement that all Veterans considering suicide ensure they are accompanied by at least 5 VA employees to meet the maker.

        Pretty sure that would end the problem with the high rate of Veterans suicides in a hurry.

      • It is Nepotism. Here in Ohio, it is local yocal nepotism.
        1. These non veteran employees at the VA are social networking to get in. Once they get in, it is all about getting their buddies in, those in their religious circle, and getting their family members in. It is all about big money, great benefits, promotions, and bonus for these non veteran local yocal VA employees. It means nothing at the VA, that you are veteran. The local yocals are being hired at the VA. It is going on across the nation. Senator Sherrod Brown (D) Ohio pointed this out, that there is a major nepotism problem at the VA in Ohio. But it is more wide spread (across the nation).

        2. For Example: PETER BARACH AKA: Dr Frankenstein, “The Monster of Shaker Heights” Cleveland Ohio. VA Federal Employee Wade Park Cleveland Ohio
        Let me tell you a little story about Peter Barach, this VA employee at Wade Park Cleveland Ohio. This guy Peter Barach got out of Vietnam (Draft Dodger) 1969 to 1973, and military service from 1969-1975 by obtaining a mental health waiver, for mental illness. Peter Barach is Draft Dodgers

        3. This VA employee Peter Barach. He grew up across the street from the VA at Wade Park Cleveland Ohio in Shaker Heights Cleveland Ohio. I am not kidding you. His parents lived there in “Shaker Heights” Cleveland Ohio for generations, across the street from the VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio, and his family lived across the Street from the Western Reserve College. Small place “Shaker Heights” where everybody knows each other.

        4. This nut case Peter Barach flunked out of John Hopkin University in Baltimore 1970-1972, and then ended up at Ann Arbor Mi (changing his major to kindnegarten science, yes “Children”) 1972-1974. After graduating in children at Mi. Peter Barach came back to Sharker Heights Cleveland Ohio after leaving shaker heights for just couple years, and then mom and dad got their son Peter Barach into the college across the street from their house, at Western Reserve College. Peter Barach Aka Dr. Frankenstein stayed there “Forever” (Engaged in Academic Incest, means: you stayed at the same college forever), his family knew everybody, and thus the Western Reserve College forced Peter Barach through the programs to become a psychologist. PETER BARACH: Bing, boom, bang now you got a doctor, quack, quack with a psychology PHD. For real…

        5. Well guess? where do think this monster Peter Barach got a job at? You guessed it, “The VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio” across the street from where he grew up at, and the he also got jobs at other institutions located across the street from his house in Shakers Heights Cleveland Ohio. His family, friends, and his social networks are all employeed at these institutions (Nepotism and Regional Nepotism at it’s finest). You file a complaint on him (Peter Barach, AKA Dr. Frankenstein) and it is covered up by the VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio. The complaints are covered up by his friends, and social networks and family members. Nothing is said about this monster, Peter Barach.

        6. As this is an honest case of Nepotism. This true story continues at the VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio. It only gets worse. The VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio pays PETER BARACH to do C and P mental health exams over, and over, and over again. For years Peter Barach (the non veteran draft dodger) has been paid to do C and P exams on injured veterans and disabled former soldiers. Making tens-of-thousands of Gov’t dollars, if not hundreds-of-thousands of Govt dollars.

        7. Question: Well how do you think those C and P exams for mental health are going to turn out for poor working class injured veterans, and disabled former soldiers? I will tell you how those C and P exam’s turn out. The more you pay Peter Barach, and the more and more years that go by, and the more tens-of-thousands of dollars you pay PETER BARACH, the more, and more, and more he is going to rule, and write up his C and P mental health exams favorably for the VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio. The more you are paid by an institution at a doctor to do C and P exams, the more likely it is not likely, that you will rule in favor of your pay master and rule unfavorably towards the injured veteran.

        8. The more, and more Peter Barach gets paid, the more and more he is going to screw the injured veterans and disabled former soldiers. It is natural that this happens in “Forensic Reports”. That is why, the courts dont like to keep asking the same doctors back again, and against in order to keep doing “Forensic Reports” for the same courts. Because the more you pay those forensic doctors, the more they will skew their psychological reports in favor for the payee.

        9. The injured Veterans and disabled former soldiers C and P exams for mental health are going to be sabotaged, more and more and more. That is how it is going to turn out when this “Draft Dodger” 1969-1973 Peter Barach gives C and P mental health exams to veteran’s and disabled former soldiers for mental health C and P exams. Peter Barach is certified in everything a poor working class veteran is going to have (And that is NOT good). Meaning, everything Peter Barach is certified in. Peter Barach is going to write the veterans up as having non claimabled disorders. Peter Barach is going to manipulate the symptoms and disorders, NOT in favor of the veteran. I am saying, “Peter Barach is NOT veteran friendly”. I am saying Peter Barach is a bad apple.
        *Also if you notify your state representatives in Ohio, Peter Barach will retaliate against an injured veteran or disabled soldiers by attempting to discredit the vulnerable veteran by giving them “A Personality Disorder”. Or peter barach will retaliate against the injured veteran by saying he/she is delusional, “A Personality Disorder”…

        10. Peter Barach is known as “A Hatchet Man”, “A Benefits Assassin”, that manipulates medical treatment notes, “Cherry Picks” sentences from thousands of pages of treatments notes (so to deny veterans benefits), and thus make up disorders, and prescribes these non claimable disorders to the vulnerable veterans (so to deny the veterans benefits). Peter Barach is a monster. so I am making this clear about Nepotism at the VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio. Nepotism with non veteran employees at the VA, it does not work favorably for the veteran or former soldier…

        11. If you contact your state representatives, like Senator Sherrod Brown (D) ohio, or Congressman Tim Ryan (D) Ohio. Peter Barach will retaliate agaisnt the injured veteran and disabled former soldier. As I said before. If you go outside the VA, and get your own IME (independent medical exam), Peter Barach will retaliate against the injured veteran and former soldier, and along with other non veteran employees engage in a cover up and “VA Patient Blacklisting”. Because, once you go outside the VA and get your own IME (imdependent Medical Exam) you have then proven malpractice by the VA. You have proven, that the VA employees (non veteran employees) in Ohio are engaging in Malpractice, the manipulation of symptoms, lying in medical treatments, and the falsification of disorders (prescribing bogus disorders), while omiting facts of your case in treatment notes and on the C and P exams. Once you go outside the VA for an IME (independent medical exam) you proven, these non veteran VA employees, are acting jointly to withhold (collective effort) and deny the vulnerable veteran’s his/her benefits. “A Culture of Corruption”. This is what Peter Barach Non veteran employee VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio is engaging in…

        12. The congressional liaisons, and senator’s aids are being lied to by the Adminstration at the VA. They are treating, your state represenatives of Ohio, and their aids like “Pen Pals”. The letters are going back and fourth from the senator’s office in Ohio to the VA Adminstrators, and these VA Adminstrators are then lying or manipulating facts to the Senator’s aid and congressmen’s aids in Ohio.

        13. That is the Peter Barach Aka Dr. Frankenstein VA Wade Park Cleveland Ohio that I know. Peter Barach is acting with two other non veteran VA employee buddies 1. Pamela Sue Sherer Non Veteran Akron Ohio VA Waterloo Road, and 2. Non Veteran employee Eric Canna Akron Ohio VA Waterloo Road. Together, what these non veteran psychopaths are doing is this. Screening the injured veterans and disabled former soldiers for injuries. manipulating the medical notes as much as possible. “Developing to Deny”, the veteran claims, by only obtaining private medical notes that are favorable to the VA. While getting the veteran’s in service medical notes way, way ahead of time. Screening those injury notes to sabotage the injured veteran in current medical notes. Then fudging the injured veteran’s and disabled former soldier’s current medical treatment notes. All to sabotage the veteran’s claims for benefits, and cover up injuries. That is what is happening in Ohio. At least that is what I am seeing. And that is why the veteran’s have to file 10 and 15 claims.
        *I know it sounds strange. But a VA lawyer explained much of this to me!

  22. Forgot to mention that the Confederate Bigot issue has hit Philadelphia too. Some but not many, have called for the removal of ex-Mayor Frank Rizzo’s statue. Just like I said, more unreasonable fall-out spreading through the States. – – – Nutter.

    • ANutter Vet, wow they already have Over 10,000 People that Signed a Petition To Keep Frank Rizzo Statue

    • @NightWish – – – Didn’t know there was a petition for fighting back. I thinks its a damn good idea. Keeps things in check. Sorry flakes for not speaking out in tearing down Rizzo’s statue. As I recall, that man had more testicular appendages in standing up for what he believed that he needed to do in controlling those, that were walking on public property with loaded weapons. And, close to town as well.

      I haven’t commented on Veterans suicides. Every time that I do, I get pissed off, and just waiting for a mother fucker to come through my door. In a mood and on edge.- – – Nutter.

      • I know, Nutter…Veteran Suicides and Homelessness tears me up every time it comes up and it’s been at a regular increase cadence of late, regardless of the million$ the VA supposedly throws away at Suicide Prevention.

        Having lost a few fellow best friend Veterans due to the VA’s outright negligence on these issues makes it even worse. Then we get these asshole disrespecting trolls that piss on Veteran Suicide topic on here.
        G-Spot is a Disrespecting Troll (GDT). 🙂

  23. Dam these fricken racist snowflakes from the Democratic party name G and Lem.

    Really like coming to a Veteran centric website with the current published article about Veterans Suicides and flooding the comment section with there racist anti-white trash. Just because they are snowflakes they think that it is ok to insult all Veterans. What useless pieces of garbage they are.

    Fricken useless snowflakes that don’t have a useful brain cell left in their bodies. What foolish political fools they are.

    Take your useless bullshit back to the Pakistan Caucus along with your racist leadership with their anti-Christian pro-Muslim beliefs and melt with the rest of the snowflakes. Nothing but idiots and morons in the current Dem party.

    Your anti-white racism does not pass the mustard here snowflakes.

    to an article about Veterans suicide using the current Democratic talking points to insult Veterans. Clearly the Dems party has turned into white hating racist

    • You’d think that how the Demo’s talk about civil liberties, protecting people’s rights and lives, its not only ok, but good that everyone does whatever they want (they believe that it doesn’t phase society one bit in a negative way). But these same peeps, can’t stand-up to fill the gap to help Veterans with their issues. Isn’t this a bunch of crap. Always blind siding their faithful, while they make their massive $Millions. Such fucking contradictive. These pukes will only do something when it benefits them, getting a new mug shot out in the MSM, something that directly effects their family members, property, savings, stock, bonds, on and on. Catch my drift? – – – Nutter.

  24. THE GREAT CON “TAKEN APART” AND LOOKED AT……..OOOO McCain you got caught again.. he just cant stay out of a picture….here G-string watch this and weep…Or learn something …LOL

    “https://lovetruthsite.wordpress.com/2017/08/16/the-great-con-taken-apart-and-looked-at”

    • Now Ole, lets not overwhelm the fellow. Take er easy on the greenie G-spotter flatulater. LoL – – – Nutter.

      • OOOOO.. NUTTER….. SHIT I was having fun with the guy ….LOL….I know your not supposed to feed the animals at the ZOO but I couldn’t help myself… But I did run out of peanuts hope that puts your mind at ease…LOL
        ALMONDS ANYONE?

      • I have some homemade Milk Duds I can contribute as zoo food. They are guaranteed to be steamy and a very strong chance of nuts. However, unlike normal Milk Duds, these will not all be cylindrical but also in nut log form-factor.

  25. @ANutterVet, I never knew how to make paragraphs. Thanks. @OLDMARINE, you and Cj have given me more reading than I ever had in school. Much better reading than school. I went back two years or so on this site. We never used the word “racist” at all. Seldom a snowflake. Now; I guess things have changed. I’m not good at changes, and looking forward… all I see is changes. I wouldn’t have voted for anyone other than Trump. I believe it was SeymoreKlearly who said, ” they will throw everything, even the kitchen sink at Trump. They are. There is no, ” right person ” for our President’s job. He just happens to be the best and the only person offered up this last election. I pray he accomplishes some of his objectives. I just don’t see it happening. Now, these liars and thieves have worked their way into his circle. @Dennis, sabotage is what’s going on. Most politicians don’t care about anything but money. Seeing my Country in turmoil, like it is, only helps these greedy elected officials. Honestly, Trump’s way so far, isn’t working. @ANutterVet, where’s the enter button?

    • @Jo3n – – – Hold on now. I’ve been stuck in a joke that I’ve missed in the past. Anyway, here er goes, the ENTER BUTTON is located on the right side of your keyboard, about 3/4 way from the left, and when you the 3/4 point, the button will be almost in the middle of the keyboard at this point. I hope this isn’t a joke. LMAO – – – Nutter.

  26. @G, God Bless you. You obviously have nothing going your way. You remind me of the youngest daughter/son that never gets heard. IF, you’re not that child any more, grow up. If you’re still that child, have someone read to you. There’s still hope.

  27. if the va does more harm the good why do veterans still go? is it slavery for monetary benefits or the dual bias and accusations of an honor such as being battle borne that deprives a simple dialect rather than pointing a finger at a fortune 500 company going balls deep in a heist game. either or government still wins and i am just dog meat. ..

    • They have nothing else. The VA knows it. Find any way you can to go around the VA. Obamacare, Medicaid, Social Security…apply for them all.

      • why my disability happen in the service. social security is about to run out with all the illegals Obama supported back 8 years ago and Obamacare is a stalemate for any other insurance i use and sent my premium sky high. am to young for Medicaid …. this is military related am doing the right thing and the va cant handle it . …

  28. @G – – – Hey doggie, no its you that is servicing your family, friends, and neighbors. You have my profile all mixed up with someone from your side of the tracks. hehehehehehe Little fucking kid. Keep it up, it’ll be you getting banned from this site for disturbing the pertinent informational flow of necessary information that benefits Disabled Veterans.

    Didn’t mean to get too much of a legal beagle on you. But if you’re as intelligent as you think you are, you better yourself, that you’ve been presented with a VALID legal reason to boot your distorting ass off from this blog. And, your not even smart enough to know when to cut it off. Keep digging doggie. Blow back hits hard. – – – Nutter.

    • ANutterVet,

      Don’t let the small mind of the racist troll calling himself “G” get to you. The fool is so stupid he didn’t even put tape over his camera lens. Although if he knew how, he could check and find that someone had recently used it remotely.

      He has never served a day in the Military. The only thing that it is about is racially trolling websites with his anti-white hatred.

      Ain’t that right Keith!

  29. va is a broken system , its so broken it will eventually rename itself to use other broken symptoms to manager there so called “i don’t know what happened “dialogue to remedy a motive of suicide .

    VA NEEDS TO SHUTDOWN AND GIVE VETERANS A FREE CHOICE OF HEALTH CARE. OR petition 5,000 veteran to create a bill in which if a veteran commits suicide the whole staff dealing with veterans case is terminated .i dont know why the accountability didn’t make reference to that other than anything else.

  30. i wish more veterans that commit suicide in numbers should triple on firing VA employees that cant tell the symptoms that are within that veterans concerns while committing the satire . for very one suicidal veteran should be about three people fired one on top on in the middle and one below like this scumbag doctor that is about to lie from this Amarillo VA facility . more than 100 veterans commit suicide in that year, than VA secretary has to go. put a note out to the president about it.

  31. @Ted, first off, welcome…What you are saying is the heart of this site. Veterans helping and listening to other Veterans. Many on this site have had their lives turned upside down due to total lack of accountability on the VA. Hundreds of Veterans die each year waiting for an appointment. Hundreds more die because of lack of proper diagnosis. The waiting game the VA puts you through is criminal. The higher you are in the VA, the more money you can steal. The AFGE protects employees from being fired for everything from killing veterans to just not doing their job. The information you will learn here, can be the difference between living and dying. Don’t be afraid to tell your story, and don’t be afraid to ask questions. This is the most informative blog out there. It’s not for those who already have the answers, although if someone does know the answers, that would be welcome with open arms.

  32. Important – – – According to Purdue Pharma L.P.,”the inactive ingredients in OXYCONTIN can be expected to result in local tissue necrosis, infection, pulmonary granulomas, and increased risk of endocarditis and valvular heart injury.”

    BPig Farma keeps a lot of information behind the scenes. I’ve never even heard of the above possible medical issues one can get with the long term use of OxyContin (Extended Release). Even the inactive ingredients are dangerous. Wow, why don’t the VA inform us Veterans? I know one thing, the VA isn’t even close to 1% of being on board with my medical diagnosis and related Treatment Plan.

    I say 1%, because that only relates to the VA in knowing that I need medical care. Due to the VA not having an accurate results from a certified-licensed Physician, the VA is missing the boat by 99% in providing me with a Medical Treatment Plan for the recovery of my health.

    This is an important point that I want to make. If your planning on receiving health care from the VA, please obtain a Medical Treatment Plan from your Primary Care Provider or other licensed VA Medical Professional. A Medical Treatment Plan should outline exactly what and how the VA intentions and programs that they VA is going to treat you with.

    A Medical Treatment Plan is used as a measure to determine what the VA is supposed to provide you, and that you can measure the results of your treatment from the VA. If the VA deviates from you Medical Treatment Plan, and you know that this deviation is based on neglect or incompetency, guess what folks, now you have proof against the VA to possibly file a VA Medical Malpractice suit.

    Additionally, make sure that you have your Medical Treatment Plan signed by the direct licensed Physician that is treating you. Good advice for better care, and better results, no matter how you look at it.

    After all the research that I’ve been doing over the many grueling months, the legal side sometimes will come a chugging out. I hope my information is able to assist and help someone. – – – Nutter.

  33. I’m kind of surprised that more vets aren’t going on shooting rampages st the VAMC. Why off yourself without taking down the doctor who ruined your life?

    • VA NEPOTISM OHIO
      The doctors are horrible, and unethical at the VA’s in Ohio. At least the ones I have encountered here at the VA in Ohio. Most of the VA Doctors, if not all of them in Ohio should be sued for malpractice. VA Nepotism and Regional Nepotism: Somehow, they all social networked to get in, of similar religions, or somehow they are all related, or from the local areas around the VA Hospitals. These VA non veteran doctors and non veteran employees medical license’s should be yanked immediately.

      Big pay checks, free malpractice insurance, great benefits, promotions, and all the disabled former soldiers they can screw and hurt with impunity. And these VA non veteran employees, and non veteran VA doctors protect each other like a pedophile ring!!! The VA non veteran doctors and non veteran employees make me sick. They care more about keeping the injured veterans and disabled former soldiers in poverty and confusion then they do about actually helping the vulnerable former soldiers. if you shoot yourself, they dont care.

      They lie, lie, and lie, and treat the injured veterans and disabled former soldiers as if they are criminals. If you can get an IME (Independent Medical Exam) from outside the VA with a private doctor in Ohio. Get one! If you get an IME (Independent Medical Exam) from an outside the VA in Ohio. Mostly and always, the private doctor’s opinion will be completely be opposite of the VA’s corrupt doctor’s opinions. Because all about saving money, and keeping the poor working class injured veterans and disbabled former soldiers away from their benefits. It is terrible.
      *To name just a few VA bad doctors and morally bankrupt doctors in Ohio:
      1. Pamela Sue Sherer Non Veteran Akron Ohio VA Waterloo Road, 2. Eric Canna Akron Ohio VA Waterloo Road, and 3. “The Benefits Assasin”, and “Hatchet Man”, Peter Barach AKA DR FRANKENSTEIN at Wade Park Cleveland Ohio VA (Non Veteran, Draft Dodger 1969-1973, mental deferment for mental illness so to get out of military service from 1969 to 1975).

  34. @Seymore Klearly – – – I’ve noticed a dramatic slow down of my emails coming in. Some are 8-12 hours old. Is it possible that the 5G network could be causing this? Or a lot more traffic in the Philadelphia-DC metro line (all the stuffs happening in the US Executive level) per the path of using the web? Seems strange. I just recently took notice of this tonight. – – – Nutter.

  35. I know how veterans are leaving this world because of how we are treated by the VA. . I just had another grand Mal seizure because of trying to submitt an letter to tbe zA over dental treatment disagreement. For the do not have a plan to deal with disagreements other then the veteran to submitt additional information within 14 days which I have done. Now I wait for the response. Tpfor oatient advocate submitted my information to VA Dental . And I am already preparing a appeal for know not what they do! I guess stupid is as stupid does. I have a.ready did too much by writing this. If it wasn’t for family I would probably be in the same boat as others that have opted to check out. They know not who they are dealing with for I know logic which all rules are based and I have done nothing wrong except to trust the VA for I wrote rules before & I will use their own rules against them has I have done with other agencies who have tried & failed to takes my rights away! Including the FBI, the VA the social Security, and IRS when I abide by rules & know how to use them to my best advantage. If I have this benefit not approved I will use my training and experience & use it against them until I can no longer do so, I should of been an attorney! I make no threats but a promise that I will do everything I can until I die to,right the wrongs by using the laws to my best advantage and it will cost them time and restricting for past wrongs!

    • @James Alto: James, that is exactly the right mindset to have, why would anyone give these bastards the satisfaction of checking yourself out, when you could use your anger to be a permanent thorn in their sides?
      I commend you for your fortitude to take it and give it back 10 fold. Keep up the good work James.

    • @James Alto – – – Good. Your on the right track. Finding those loopholes is the name of the game, especially if you know that the VA can’t wiggle out of it. When you got them against the wall, sad to say, I’d give them no damn mercy. When you finish with this endeavor, please post back. We love to hear about victories. In the meantime though, keep posting comments. God speed, and good luck with your maneuvers. – – – Nutter.

  36. @James Alto, I like your diligence. Wish I had your knowledge of the law. You do know that the VA doesn’t follow the law. With what you have going, and knowing the law, I hope you become a regular and keep us updated on your issues. Thanks, I am grateful for Veterans like you.

  37. “Minnesota attorney general accuses 2 lending firms of scamming seniors, veterans”
    By S.M. Chavey / St. Paul Pioneer Press Today at 8:45 p.m.
    “http://www.dglobe.com/news/4313499-minnesota-attorney-general-accuses-2-lending-firms-scamming-seniors-veterans”

    “Billie Joe Slater, 72, of Mounds View, receives benefits from her late husband’s military service. When she found out her springer spaniel — “my baby,” she says — had cancer and needed surgery, Slater said she had to borrow money from FIP. When the $2,100 arrived, she used it immediately.

    The contract was sent over later and Slater discovered she would be required to pay back $350 every month from her late husband’s benefits for 60 months — not 16 like she was originally told. In total, she is required to pay $21,000, 10 times the amount she borrowed, at an annual percentage rate of 200 percent.

    Cecelia Gleb borrowed $2,249 to pay off debts. She said $300 is taken out of the $386 she received monthly from her former husband’s military pension for five years, totaling $18,000.

    Stephen Schmelz was a disabled veteran trying to catch up on medical bills. He said he was charged $27,000 for his $2,700 loan. He called the company “snakes in the grass.”

    “They know that we need the money desperately, they know that we have a fixed income, and they know that that’s going to be a direct payment every month,” Schmelz said. “Based on that they said ‘okay’ to me.””

  38. Veterans get it up the backside again!

    “Buffalo VA medical center health alert”
    WGRZ 11:06 PM. EDT August 16, 2017
    “http://www.wgrz.com/news/buffalo-va-medical-center-health-alert/464918325”

    “BUFFALO, N.Y. – Instruments used in 526 colonoscopies at the Buffalo Veterans Affairs Medical Center may not have been properly sanitized. The patients who underwent the procedure will receive letters offering free testing.”

    Some one is getting a big bonus this year from the VA.

  39. VA Doctor takes early bonuses!!!

    “Doctor admits scamming Veterans Administration out of $238K”
    NJ Advance Media, Posted on August 16, 2017 at 6:41 PM
    “http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/08/doctor_admits_scamming_veterans_administration_out.html”

    “NEWARK — A cardiologist from Somerset pleaded guilty Wednesday after billing the government for hundreds of medical tests he never actually conducted, Acting U.S. Attorney William E. Fitzpatrick said.

    Apostolos Voudouris, 44, has agreed to pay more than $476,000 as part of a civil settlement and another $238,000 in restitution.

    Voudouris began providing medical services under contract at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in East Orange in 2006. Between 2011 and 2015, he submitted more than 350 false claims, fraudulently receiving $238,000 in fees.

    He faces up to 10 years in prison when he’s sentenced in December.”

  40. “Investigation discovers staff ignored hole in roof for years at VA hospital in Spokane”
    UPDATED: Fri., Aug. 11, 2017, 5:19 p.m.
    “http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/11/investigation-discovers-staff-ignored-hole-in-roof/”

    “U.S. Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers’ frustrated attempts to secure changes for veterans’ care in Spokane just fell through the roof.

    Based on complaints funneled through a group of veterans who have protested for a year about the lack of cooperation from the staff at Mann-Grandstaff VA Medical Center, McMorris Rodgers asked for staff from the House Veterans Affairs Committee to come to Spokane in June and investigate conditions at the hospital. Among the problems they discovered: a hole in the roof.

    The hole apparently has been leaking water for about five years. McMorris Rodgers said VA staff has known about the problem, evidenced by the fact that someone had built a rectangular funnel to catch water dripping through the roof. The funnel channels water through a hose into a metal bucket.

    But the make-shift-leak-management system is located only feet from hospital’s large electrical panel that fuels power to the entire facility, she said.

    “Just how unbelievable it was to learn we had a leaking roof,” McMorris Rodgers said. “And it’s been going on for years and hasn’t been addressed.””

  41. You know all those now out of work terrorist Obama used to fund. The same ones that are now flooding Europe as refugees. The VA found a new job for them denying Veterans Claims. No doubt they will get the J1 Visas automatically.

    “Europe program offers separating servicemembers VA jobs”
    By WILL MORRIS | STARS AND STRIPES
    Published: August 12, 2017

    “KAISERSLAUTERN, Germany — A new program offering Department of Veterans Affairs jobs to servicemembers leaving active duty is now accepting applicants for a Europe-based training course.

    Previously only available in the United States, the pilot program offered by the VA and the Soldiers for Life office allows servicemembers across Europe to train for jobs as either service representatives or as disability raters, officials said Friday.

    Upon completion of training, new employees will be placed in one of 56 regional veteran service centers in the United States at a GS-7 or GS-9 pay grade, with annual salaries starting at $35,359 for a GS-7 and $43,251 for a GS-9. The employees will primarily process and issue rulings on veteran disability claims.”

  42. @Seymore Klearly – – – Damn, you going to be the Investigative Research Reporter of “www.DisabledVeterans.org”. I checked back, and boom, a list of no good actions by the VA. The damn Agency has loads of issues to report on. Never ending. – – – Nutter.

  43. Does anyone know any of our Veterans knows that our Senators and Representatives are Veterans except stupid McCain?

    • Lindsay Graham, South Carolina, USAF. (joined at hip to Insane McCain, equally useless on Veteran Issues)

      Also, here’s a link to all the varied photo ops of current congress critters that are also veterans and most of which usually only stir about Veterans when it’s reelection season, very much like a groundhog, but staggered in 2 and 4 year increments rather than the groundhog’s yearly spring forecast meanderings.

      “https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=current+congress+members+that+are+veterans&qpvt=current+congress+members+that+are+Veterans&qpvt=current+congress+members+that+are+Veterans&qpvt=current+congress+members+that+are+Veterans&FORM=IGRE”

      Here’s a pdf from Congressional Research Service on the 114th Congress and facts/profiles and stats:

      “https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43869.pdf”

      • From page 8 of the posted pdf on Military Service of congress critters. I was equally surprised that 101 are Veterans….you would never know it, sadly. Self-absorbed groundhogs.

        “[…At the beginning of the 114th Congress, there were 101 Members (18.7% of the total membership) who had served or were serving in the military, 7 fewer than at the beginning of the 113th Congress (108 Members) and 17 fewer than in the 112th Congress (118 members). According to lists compiled by CQ Roll Call, the House currently has 82 veterans (including 3 female Members, as well as 1 Delegate); the Senate has 20 veterans, including 1 woman.27 These Members served in the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Persian Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Kosovo, as well as during times of peace.28 Many have served in the reserves and the National Guard. Eight House Members and one Senator are still serving in the reserves, and six House Members are still serving in the National Guard.29 All of the female veterans are combat veterans….]”

    • Leatherneck, 115th Congress, there were 102 Members who had served or were serving in the military; I couldn’t locate a list of names. “https://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=799015”
      AND
      “http://library.clerk.house.gov/documents/Military_Vets.pdf” = List of House of Representatives/Military Veterans by name

  44. In 2008 the US spent more money every 5 seconds to wage an immoral, unlawful war in Iraq than the average working American earned all year long. 80% of America’s taxes are earmarked towards funding the annual Pentagon budget to wage war around the world. When that kind of war investment misappropriating US citizenry’s hard-earned tax dollars places such lopsided priority over the well-being of its own people, with over a decade of wearing down an overextended military forced into fighting three, four and even five consecutive combat tours on two simultaneous warfronts, it also overburdened and decimated America’s middle class. And now for the first time in nearly a half century, the US middle class is no longer a majority in the United States. A large chunk of it died when sinking into an expanding lower class of impoverished, poverty-stricken Americans barely making ends meet.

    “https://geopolitics.co/2017/08/17/its-time-to-stop-supporting-our-troops”

  45. 08/17/2017

    Dear Benjamin Krause,

    Sunday I sat down with a Veteran [my old bass player] and he pointed out that everything at the Phoenix VA was great, and he reinforced the statement from two other Veterans I knew [one was my old guitar player].

    I told him that is great but if everything was so “peachy”—Why do I have 40 books on the VA Scandal or 40,000 pages?

    I told him for you things may be getting better—and that is good—and overdue.
    But there are many who are not getting the care they need and which they deserve.

    And I told him you cannot wipe away the 508 Dead Veterans [last sum of the total since October of 2016]. We should be nearing a body count of 600 at the Phoenix, AZ VA. Management has not changed around me—-and I am sure management has not changed around the veterans.

    More pressure must be placed on Management to stay on the correct course.

    VA Suicides are no mistakes—they are reflections of the situation.

    Sincerely,

    Don Karg

    • Don,
      It seems that the Secretary (past and present) have been shuffling directors and managers around instead of removing them and holding them accountable. I have some teammates who were take care of perfectly and have had no worries and I have had others who are like myself (been fighting and fighting for many years). I have yet to find a pattern of behavior that makes sense. About 7 years ago I was able to have one of my teammates on the ‘inside’ of the VA confirm that ‘someone’ had it out for me and was deliberately making things difficult. I requested that they did not give me the name of the person as I did not care WHO it was, just that I was not going crazy thinking someone was making life difficult deliberately. Which they were. Right now the VA is happy just to keep delaying my pain medications, despite my constant communication and attempts at keeping their behavior out of the media but I believe time has come where we all need to organize in order to become one voice and one power. The VA feels safe because there may be thousands of veterans that are not getting the treatments they deserve or are having difficulties but those are individual voices. If we come together we will have a bigger voice. I am trying to figure out how to make that happen.
      Mark

      • If an employee us out for you, don’t u think they may be hurting other veterans.?

        You have an obligation to those veterans to expose that or those employees.

        They don’t care about you, why should you care about them.

        Many employees know other employees are doing wrong, some blow the whistle and other’s look the other way.

        Two wrongs does not make a right. Ever think the reason your having problems, is that employee.

        Speak up for yourself and for other’s, reporting bad employees could possibly save agave veterans life.

  46. I can tell you that the VA hospitals are not doing much good in accommodating the veterans. For the past 3+ years the pharmacy has been deliberately delaying my pain medications. Along with that, my PCPs’ nurse manager is horrific! She will not do anything with the messages I send to my PCP! There have been many occasions where I had sent messages requesting a fill of my pain medications (as instructed by my PCP) only to have her reply to my message with “sent” or “forwarded to your PCP” but wont commit to any answers. I log every question and reply to show patterns of their behaviors but it does no good because none of the politicians will pursue answers if it is not a quick solution for them that they can get quickly. I was failed by Virginia’s Congressman, Governors, and Senators (many times) despite my sending them proof. We are living in a shameful time where the VA can be reckless to the point where Veterans feel that they have to commit suicide to 1) end their own anxiety and suffering about the VA and their treatments and 2) to bring focus on an everyday issue that is effecting veterans throughout the U.S.

    • M L. I read what you said. I get it. makes sense to me. Diseased animals should be fired. I second that. I beleive you. You and many, many other veterans and former soldiers are being failed by the VA…

    • M L. So much for MYVA.
      The VA: A place where the Federal Employees, who get in through social works and Nepotism. At least that is how it works here at the VA’s here in Ohio.

      MYVA: A place where VA (Non Veteran) employees are protected, and the patients, who are disabled veterans, injured former soldiers, and vulnerable ex-soldiers are thrown under-the-bus often and a lot. A place where in service injuries are manipulated, symptoms are manipulated, disorders are falsified, facts are omitted in medical notes, and facts in medical treatment notes are “Gaslighted”, often and a lot.

      *Gaslighting or “to Gaslight”. Is form of psychological abuse. That is done often and a lot by the VA employees to disabled patients, that can not defend themselves. Gaslighting: Where it is said, that you may had said something or had did something, that you had not done. It is mind manipulation. Or to say somebody said something, when they never said the statement at all. This often done to disabled veterans at the VA, “gaslighting”.
      Example: Putting in ones treatment notes, that the soldier has: ADD, have personality disorder, or Adjustment disorders (And putting bogus symptoms to justify these bogus disorders) or had bi-polar from when they were a child, creating a pre-existing injury to cover-up the in service injury. When reality and all honesty, the former soldier has PTSD, MDD (majore Depressive disorder), or anxiety disorder. All to keep the injured soldiers from collecting entitlements, deserved and earned benefits.

      MYVA: Great pay, super benefits, great medical care insurance, malpractice insurance paid for by the VA, promotions, bonuses, and a license to mistreat the vets with impunity. MYVA: Where (Non Veteran) employess are protected often and a lot. MYVA: A place where if you are an employee (non veteran) you are well protected, much like a child molestor is protected in a “Pedophile Ring”…
      MYVA…

      • Are u a VA employee or veteran. The way you wrote ur post, let’s me know you have personal insite to how this work’s.

        Unfortunately you are correct and may I ask why do you think they are doing this to veterans.?

        Are we veterans right in believing the VA is out to sabatoge veterans to make sure they do not receive their deserved disability.

        Do you know anything about the illegal disruptive committee and how they are using the disruptive committee to punish veterans, in hopes they will commit suicide.

        Yes, VA employees will make up things only as a retaliatory act against veterans and fellow employees.

        We have posted on this site many time’s that all veterans must get copies of their medical records. They are also warned to be prepared to see some very disturbing writings by va employees.

        Why do you think they are doing this and knowing it is wrong. Are veterans nothing more than a piece of meat, for them to test.

        Your in site is right on point.
        .have any suggestions for veterans !

    • I wrote to senator Bennett’s office in colorado and gave him all the evidence needed for action against the VA for punishing me through the disruptive committee.

      Senator Bennett’s office reply. We can not make the VA do anything ! So what good are they.

      Some employees will distroy the VA and America.

      • James. That is horrible. A senator (senator Bennett) is saying that.
        Might want to talk with a veteran’s attorney. Sometimes a local private attorney that is certified in VA policies and VA law will help you for free. Sometimes lawyers are veterans or their family members have been service members, and they do care. Because the lawyers often know we(injured veterans and disabled former soldiers) are getting screwed so much at the VAs. Try the DAV, American Legion, VFW, etc…

        It is so hard sometimes for us. Sometimes we are isolated, and left vulnerable after years of losses. Had to endore so many hardships not only in service but after service. Some of us, after decades of suffering are left with nobody. And some of us disabled vets and injured former soldiers, lack the education and support to create a quality letter. Even more of us are too proud to ask for help. And if we go to the VA, we are shamed by these (non veteran) employees, and made to feel guilty.

        Can you turn some of those VA medical staff into the board of ethics in Colorado, or write the Attorney General or VA OIG? Write a letter, and make copies of it at your local public library.
        Remember our breed (We as former soldiers) and that we were taught to fight. We were the guys that brought the artillery pieces down from FT ticonderoga in the middle of winter in order to turn back the British. We were in the spirit of the soldiers who charged ft wagner. We were the toughest that jumped on the machine guns to shoot down the zeros at Pearl Harbor. And we were in the breed to carry our buddies at bataan when the Japs were cutting their heads off due to fatigue and wounds. We Dont give up. Don’t give up the fight James.

      • I have been fighting this since 2004when a disgruntled va employee reported me as coming into my local clinic at least twice a month and become disruptive.

        She also stated I said, I wanted to murder people at my local clinic !

        The VA jumped in her fake reporting, I have contacted the DAV and the DAV representative did such a good job, with my case, that the employee acussing me, hired the DAV representative.

        So, that is telling me that the DAV representative, gave all the evidence I gave her was given to the employee.

        I have tried to find an attorney to assist and have been unable to find any one !

        Now, I have collected real evidence that proves my case. This has been sent to Secretary Shulkin and to the congress and the Senate committee on veterans affairs.

        This was sent in may and I have not been contacted as of today. The VA admits they can not even put me at the facility at anytime.

        I have filed charges against the VA employee who reported me, I charged her with criminal libel ! This is a class 6 felony.

        Since the employee and the VA published this in my official medical records as fact !

        I will never stop fighting to clear my good name, 3 year’s active duty, 6 year’s after with the guard, 22 year’s with the VA As an administrative assistant.

        The employee who reported me had 0, military service.

        I have a traumatic brain injury and it hinders me in finding the proper people. Secretary Shulkin stated ” those VA employees who should not be working at the VA, will not be working at the VA !

        So it’s a wait and see situation !

    • @M L: Same in Illinois, and in every state.

      Useless lawmakers, the VA tells them to go fuck themselves, and they do. I think maybe the unions are in charge, not pansy ass lawmakers.

      Illinois congressman Randy Hultgren, his office was contacted, and asked to enforce the law concerning medical treatment of SC injuries. The answer from the James Lovell FHCF? Go fuck yourself, what’s the congressman do? Turns a blind eye and says “they won’t listen” nothing further they could do.

      Within two days I forced them to abide by the law, or face a federal judge.
      Hmm, maybe the congressman should step down, and let someone with a good pair of balls take over!!!

      I agree with others, it’s time for a takeover.

  47. “In order to protect the veteran’s privacy, we are not able to share any additional details. Our deepest condolences are extended to friends and family of the veteran. We are cooperating with local authorities on the investigation.”

    ATTENTION ALL TEXAS VA EMPLOYEES: The deceased veterans concern for their “privacy” ended the precise moment they executed proper trigger squeeze. Your public relations fluff statement only displays your callous, willful ignorance to all living veterans with normal intelligence.

    Your “healthcare system” is a total failure which is nothing more than a fraudulent scheme to line AFGE employees pockets with taxpayer dollars, while providing the vast majority if our nations veterans with nothing but heartache and administrative terrorism.

    Thank You for your service, indeed. Rotten, Worthless Bastards!

    It is high time for some real leadership at the VA. Leadership that speaks truth publicly about how bad things have really gotten. Leadership that develops solutions to take better care of ALL our nations warriors.

    Leadership that recognizes that when they are doing a good job – – – it will be veterans singing their praises, rather than the VA needing a PR Agency to put out “Fluff Pieces” to mislead America.

    Current VA leadership has their Brain Housing Group the size of mice and their Hearts no bigger. It is about TEN YEARS PAST TIME TO FIX THE DAMN BROKEN VA:

    1. Recognize the problems inherent in the VA are SYSTEM-WIDE, not just limited to a few locations.

    2. Fire all the Lazy No Good Workers. Fire EVERY single AFGE/SES Employee.

    3. Sell off all the VA facilities. Alternatively, they may be converted into housing for homeless veterans.

    4. Issue all veterans a card that allows them to choose their own doctors within their community that they can TRUST.

    5. The United States Government will PAY those doctors promptly (Within 45 days) for the care they provide veterans.

    6. ELIMINATE the “Federal Protection” Umbrella for incompetent QUACKS that the VA sends to other states to practice other than their own. Going to practice in Hawaii? You need to be LICENSED in Hawaii. Same applies to all other states.

    7. Any claim a veteran submits to the VBA that requires more than 90 days to adjudicate, is automatically found to be in favor of the veteran. If a VBA claim filed by a veteran is found to be a false one designed to scam the system, the VA will have to prove in civil court that a false claim was intentionally submitted.

    8. All veterans will be allowed to seek/retain the services of a Veterans Rights Attorney from their first initial contact with the VA.

    9. No AFGE, nor any other Labor Union business will be allowed to take place in any Federal Workplace. Conducting Union Business during working hours will be STRICTLY PROHIBITED, and will be STRICTLY ENFORCED. Should any government employee be found violating this provision, it will result in IMMEDIATE LIFETIME DISMISSAL FROM ANY/ALL GOVERNMENTAL EMPLOYMENT.

    10. Attorneys for appeal will be retained at the former employee’s PERSONAL expense. U. S. Taxpayer’s will not be subject to payment of legal bills for incompetent or dishonest personnel with regards to Governmental Employment.

    You have my contact information Mr. Secretary. Call me anytime. I have a lot of ideas to help you improve the services provided to my fellow veterans. I will not hesitate to speak up at all.

    For my fellow veterans who have been ill-served by this CLUSTERFUCK of a train wreck called the VA over the years:

    Our battles overseas were far less stressful than our war here at home. Never Cruel or cowardly. Never Give Up. Never Give In. We are on the Righteous path.

    POTUS Reagan broke up PATCO in the ’80’s. Time for POTUS Trump to break up the AFGE. Most of our current Congress Critters do NOT have Veterans Interests at heart. Perhaps their replacements will. VOTE OUT all these WORTHLESS INCUMBENTS.

    Give their replacement’s one term to take care of Veterans who put aside their own personal lives to answer this nation’s call when she needed them. Many of those Veterans suffer the remainder of their lives for doing what most of their countrymen had not the courage to do.

    If they cannot MUSTER THE STONES to do it properly – – – vote their worthless asses out as well. Party should NOT MATTER. What SHOULD MATTER is their VOTING RECORDS ON VETERANS ISSUES.

    Rhetoric is cheap. Congressional Voting Records speak louder than words.

    NO Combat Veteran should be surprised when the next McVeigh, Congressional Baseball Team, or Charlottesville Incident occurs. Bound to happen. Just a matter of time . . .

    We have now reached the next accelerative phase of our country falling apart. Country before Party. Principles before Personalities. Always.

    Want to REALLY fix the VA? The next SecVA needs to be a former Enlisted Man with a few serious axes to grind against the VA and the AFGE. Apparently, Former Flag Officers and SES appointed Civilians can’t cut the mustard . . .

    Maybe a SINCERELY MOTIVATED Gunnery Sergeant or Chief Petty Officer CAN.

    Disgruntled Veteran
    1973 – 1976 USMC
    1978 – 1993 USN
    Wounded Warrior
    San Francisco, California

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