Second VA Commission

Second VA Commission To Select New VBA Under Secretary

Second VA Commission

Yet another VA commission was created to help select a new leader for its Veterans Benefits Administration (VBA), presently led by Thomas Murphy.

The agency called its second VA commission to select a new head of VBA last spring that included Allison Hickey. The commission reviewed three candidates, Thomas Murphy, Curtis Coy and Al Poteet. The commission preferred the selection of Murphy, the present acting under secretary.

Apparently, the first VA commission did not do a satisfactory job resulting in more taxpayer dollars being spent to redo the process that is set to conclude December 1.

RELATED: VA Commission Reviews Thomas Murphy For Nomination

First VA Commission Background

VA regulations create the framework and requirements around the agency reviewing and selecting a nominee to recommend to the sitting present as under secretary of VBA.

Murphy’s selection was reportedly blocked once President Donald Trump’s team learned Murphy was a former nominee of President Barack Obama, in 2016. Murphy was also considered an Obama supporter who allegedly donated to Obama’s campaign, in 2008.

After President Obama won the 2008 election, Murphy, a retired military member and then Home Depot employee, was placed into a leadership role as director San Juan Regional Office. He swiftly was promoted to head of Compensation under former under secretary Allison Hickey.

Allison Hickey resigned from the agency following an investigation of her role in allegations of moving incentive fraud by Diana Rubens and Kimberly Graves. Both women gave themselves demotions from VBA leadership roles back into director roles at Philadelphia RO and St. Paul RO, respectively.

A scandal quickly erupted when the women took moving incentives not intended for individuals in their circumstance. Hickey approved their career moves. Pushback from the House Committee on Veterans Affairs resulted in Hickey’s resignation.

Hickey was replaced by Danny Pummill, a longtime DC insider and someone with a reputation as a political operative for Democrats. VA tried to punish Rubens and Graves for the confirmed impropriety, but the agency was unable to do so because Pummill was also involved an not punished.

RELATED: Danny Pummill, ‘Pay To Play’ Gov Contractor Allegations

Employment laws preclude punishment of subordinates where a supervisor is equally involved but not punished, at least to the same degree as the subordinates. As a result, Pummill also stepped down resulting in Murphy taking over at the helm.

RELATED: Danny Pummill Punished For Role In Fraud Scandal

Murphy has since pushed through numerous technology solutions he asserts will fix problems with a disability compensation backlog and other processing deficiencies. The fixes were aimed at speeding up adjudications with technology while removing certain due process rights including the agency’s requirement to assist the veteran in gathering evidence. Instead, veteran service officers are required to fully develop the claim for the veteran should the veteran opt for the quicker options.

Of course, the premise of this quicker model presumes veteran service officers have the training and time to develop evidence supporting a claim for a veteran. Most do not. And most veterans do not realize this shortcoming.

While Murphy curried favor with certain national veteran organizations, at least behind the scenes, he was not well received amongst individual veterans for his views against those seeking benefits for Agent Orange herbicide exposure.

RELATED: Attempted Tom Murphy Ouster Over Agent Orange Denial

VA On Second VA Commission

According to VAntage Point, VA’s official blog:

VA announced has announced the establishment of a search commission to help identify candidates for the position of VA’s under secretary for benefits.  The under secretary for benefits is the senior official within the Veterans Benefits Administration who oversees a variety of benefits and services to service members, Veterans and their families.

Search commission candidates will be selected based on criteria governed by law along with appropriate skills, knowledge and attributes as leaders, managers and educators.  The commission is a prerequisite to the president’s appointment of an undersecretary candidate, subject to Senate confirmation.

By law, the appointment is made without regard to political affiliation and solely on the basis of demonstrated ability both in fiscal management and in the administration of programs of the Veterans Benefits Administration or of similar content and scope.

The Veterans Benefits Administration includes a network of 56 regional offices and more than 21,800 employees. Nearly four million Veterans currently receive compensation for disabilities incurred in service or pensions for wartime Veterans who become totally disabled in civilian life.  In addition, more than half a million widows, children and parents of deceased Veterans are paid survivor compensation or death pensions.

Other programs administered by the undersecretary for benefits include: education benefits, vocational rehabilitation and employment for Veterans, and life insurance, as well as VA guaranteed home loans for both active-duty personnel and Veterans.

The commission, once named, is expected to complete its work by Dec. 1.  To apply for this job, go to https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/481447500

All I want to know is how much this second commission will cost and who the new candidates will be for consideration at this stage.

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41 Comments

  1. I’ll say it again, VA needs to be Audited. This Federal Agency has No Accountability, which then supports the temptation for the leadership to perform greedy corruptive maneuvers that only serves themselves.

    Only 1% of waste-finding or the cost cutting of ridiculous programs, will recover about $1.8 Billion per year. That’s a lot of moola.

    $180 Billion x .01 (equals 1% or 1/100) = $1.8 Billion

    This Veteran believes that more monies can be found, saved, or accounted for. This isn’t chump change, it’s Trump’s change.

    WTF, it’s so damn obvious that an Audit needs to be performed. Anytime that an organization has such problems like the VA has had for decades, means only one thing, “many employees are blatantly cooking the books in their favor.”

    Where are the overseers? Committee members? Senators? Congress members? If I’m reading negative articles about the VA, I know that our Politicians know what is going on within this institution. They’re keeping that money train going right into their already fattened pockets. And many Veterans and love ones are suffering without help. Real fucking nice.

    Thank you for serving. – – – Nutter.

  2. “Veterans Affairs abruptly drops plan to suspend ethics law”
    Hope Yen, Associated Press, Oct 11, 2017

    “https://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2017/10/11/Veterans-Affairs-abruptly-drops-plan-to-suspend-ethics-law/stories/201710110145”

    “WASHINGTON — The Department of Veterans Affairs abruptly dropped plans Wednesday to suspend an ethics law barring employees from receiving benefits from for-profit colleges. The move comes after criticism from government watchdogs who warned of financial entanglements with private companies vying for millions in GI Bill tuition.

    In a statement to The Associated Press, the VA said it had received “constructive comments” on the Trump administration plan and as a result would delay action.

    As recently as Tuesday, the department had told AP it would implement the rule next Monday, citing the lack of any “significant adverse comment.” It changed its position after it was asked about rising opposition to the plan.

    “VA has submitted paperwork to the Federal Register today, to be published Friday so that the notice is withdrawn,” spokesman Curt Cashour said Wednesday.”

    Bens Article on the Subject at:

    “VA Proposes Employees Can Profit From For-Profit Colleges”
    By Benjamin Krause – September 15, 2017

    “https://www.disabledveterans.org/2017/09/15/va-proposes-employees-can-profit-profit-colleges/”

    Also as I pointed out in prior comments it wasn’t limited to Schools accepting GI Bill but also school owned by VA employees receiving payments under the VA National Education for Employees Program (VANEEP).

    More on the subject at: “https://www.disabledveterans.org/2017/09/15/va-proposes-employees-can-profit-profit-colleges/#comment-90735”

  3. Off-Topic: I just heard on public radio that it’s official, The Boy Scouts have started admitting girls to be members and can earn Eagle Scout level…they did not mention if boys are now allowed to be girl scouts…what if you just love the cookies?

  4. It seems to me, Secretary of VA, Dr Shulkin, is doing his best to destroy veterans and make himself, and lots of other reprobates, rich(er) in the process!
    Every day we’re subject to more massive waste, fraud and abuse coming out of these thieves!
    What else can one call them. They’ve done nothing to improve the lives of veterans. They’ve done everything to financially improve the lives of the upper management, from Shulkin all the way down to the VSO’s!

    When will veterans and taxpayers see many of these reprobate asswipes go to prison?

    1. I agree with crazy elf. They only hire psychopathic and sociopathic upper management personality’s. its the only thing that can explain why they do what they do and go home and sleep at night. I gota call it like i see it, and point it out when i can. They are psychopathic Its truly a shame when a veteran has to either go out of the country or get a state medical card so they can get the treatment they need.

  5. It is a different BVA than the one I went to in 1990 and that decision may be a road block to getting my partial and complex partial seizures service compensated back to 1974. But since the BVA decision of 1990 ignored the issue I think it is still open to go back to 1974.

  6. Once you file the Notice of Appeal to the CAVC by yourself you get loads of attorney’s wanting to look at your case. By the time you get there you’ll have a lot of back pay coming. I’m expecting around $500,000.00, could be over a million, from the remand. The evidence in the file is clear and the “examiners” have to consider it by the remand order.

  7. USA Today has a story out today about the VA concealing the malpractice by VA providers.

    “https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/11/va-conceals-shoddy-care-and-health-workers-mistakes/739852001/”

    1. Thanks. Just read that. Somehow our plight with the VA needs to rise above snowflakes now wanting Columbus Day changed to ‘Indigenous People Day”…WTF?!! Seriously, we are still in active wars and about to tangle with a never finished war (N. Korea), our USA is doing an incredibly piss-poor disservice job of taking care of veteran’s healthcare and snowflakes butthurt over our USA’s history makes the news? Makes me want to go out and light beards on fire as well as beaded female underarm hair. Rant Out!

  8. VA conceals shoddy care and health workers’ mistakes
    Donovan Slack and Michael Sallah, USA TODAY Published 6:58 a.m. ET Oct. 11, 2017 | Updated 9:01 a.m. ET Oct. 11, 2017
    “https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/11/va-conceals-shoddy-care-and-health-workers-mistakes/739852001/”

    At least the News agreed this is BS from the VA: and more too:
    In at least 126 cases, the VA initially found the workers’ mistakes or misdeeds were so serious that they should be fired. In nearly three-quarters of those settlements, the VA agreed to purge negative records from personnel files or give neutral or positive references to prospective employers.

    the SECOND BIGGEST BS the VA only “reports bad MD/DO but:
    Under a nationwide VA policy in place for nearly three decades, the agency doesn’t report such events for podiatrists and other kinds of medical providers, including thousands of nurses and physician’s assistants working for the agency.

  9. Still the fastest route, Ben: “Of course, the premise of this quicker model presumes veteran service officers have the training and time to develop evidence supporting a claim for a veteran. Most do not. And most veterans do not realize this shortcoming.” I did it your way and it took 8 years. Once the Attorney got it to the BVA things moved.

    You get to the BVA faster. Ask the BVA for a “DENOVO REVIEW” and a REMAND which the BVA Judge should give you If you draw a good judge, have a good attorney helping or decide to not pay for an attorney and wait until the CAVC where the attorney is free. You get a remand with no wiggle room like this: (from my BVA decision) If you don’t ask for it from the CAVC. You can go to HADIT for a template on each question. Just try to raise all your issues at your hearings even if the Statement of the Case ignors some:

    Accordingly, the case is REMANDED for the following action:
    (This appeal has been advanced on the Board ‘ s docket pursuant to 38 C.F.R.
    § 20.900(c). Expedited handling is requested.)
    1. Obtain and associate with the Veteran’ s electronic claims file any
    outstanding VA treatment records relevant to his claims on appeal,
    including the June 2015 neuropsychological testing from Post and
    Associates that were addressed by the June 2015 VA examiner, as
    well as any records dated after May 9, 2016.
    2. Contact the Veteran and request authorization to obtain any
    outstanding private medical records pertinent to his claims on
    – 31 –
    IN THE APPEAL OF
    LEMUEL C. BRAY
    appeal. Make at least two (2) attempts to obtain records from any
    identified source.
    3. If any records cannot be obtained after reasonable efforts have
    been made, issue a formal determination that such records do not
    exist or that further efforts to obtain such records would futile, which
    should be documented in the claims file. The Veteran must be
    notified of the attempts made and why further attempts would be
    futile, and allowed the opportunity to provide such records, as
    provided in 38 U.S.C.A. § 5103A(b)(2) and 38 C.F.R. § 3.159(e).
    4. After all outstanding records have been associated with the
    claims file, the Veteran should be afforded a VA audiological
    examination in order to determine the current nature and severity of
    his service-connected tinnitus. The entire claims file, to include a
    copy of this Remand, must be made available to and be reviewed by
    the examiner. The examination report should include discussion of
    the Veteran’s documented medical history and lay statements. Any
    additional evaluations, studies, and tests deemed necessary should be
    conducted.
    The examiner is specifically requested to describe the functional
    effects caused by the Veteran’ s tinnitus. The examiner should also
    describe the impact that the Veteran’s tinnitus has on his daily life,
    as well as whether his tinnitus causes marked interference with
    employment and/or frequent periods of hospitalization. The
    examiner should list all symptoms associated with tinnitus and
    distinguish those that may be associated with TBI and reasons for
    each distinction should be provided.
    All opinions or findings provided must include an explanation for
    the bases for the opinion. If any of the above requested opinions
    cannot be made without resort to speculation, the examiner must
    – 32 –
    IN THE APPEAL OF
    LEMUEL C. BRAY
    state this and specifically explain why an opinion cannot be provided
    without resort to speculation.
    5. After all outstanding records have been associated with the
    claims file, schedule the Veteran for an appropriate VA TBI
    examination with an appropriate examiner (such as a specialist in
    neurology, neurosurgery, and/or psychiatry, who has training and
    experience with TBI) to determine the current nature and severity of
    his service-connected TBI. The entire claims file, to include a copy
    of this Remand, must be made available to and be reviewed by the
    examiner. The examination report should include discussion of the
    Veteran’ s documented medical history and lay statements. Any
    indicated evaluations, studies, and tests, such as neurological testing,
    must be conducted. This examiner must also list all symptoms
    associated with tinnitus and distinguish those that may be associated
    with TBI and reasons for each distinction should be provided.
    To ensure that the all medical findings are expressed in terms
    conforming to the amended schedular criteria of 38 C.F.R. § 4. 1 24a,
    Diagnostic Code 8045, in effect as of October 23, 2008, the Board
    requests that the examination be completed in accordance with the
    Review Evaluation of Residuals of TBI Disability Benefits
    Questionnaire (DBQ).
    Based on the examination results, the examiner should provide an
    assessment of the current nature and severity of the service-connected
    TBI consistent with the revised schedular criteria for
    evaluating the residuals of TBI under 38 C.F.R. § 4. 1 24a, Diagnostic
    Code 8045. The examiner is asked to specifically address the degree
    to which the service-connected disability is manifested by facets of
    cognitive impairment including memory, attention, concentration,
    and executive functions; judgment; social interaction; orientation;
    motor activity; visual spatial orientation; subjective symptoms;
    neurobehavioral effects; communication; and consciousness.
    – 33 –
    IN THE APPEAL OF
    LEMUEL C. BRAY
    In making his or her assessment, the examiner should identify all
    comorbid physical, neurological, or mental disorder(s), and state
    whether each is shown to be caused by the Veteran’s TBI. If not,
    then, with respect to each comorbid disorder identified, the examiner
    should attempt to distinguish any symptoms and impairment
    attributable to such disability from identified residuals of a head
    injury. If the manifestations cannot clearly be distinguished, the
    examiner should clearly so state.
    All opinions or findings provided must include an explanation for
    the bases for the opinion. If any of the above requested opinions
    cannot be made without resort to speculation, the examiner must
    state this and specifically explain why an opinion cannot be provided
    without resort to speculation.
    6. After obtaining all outstanding records, the Veteran should be
    scheduled for an appropriate VA mental health examination to
    determine the current nature and severity of his service-connected
    mixed organic personality disorder with depression. The entire
    claims file, to include a copy of this Remand, must be made
    available to and be reviewed by the examiner. The examination
    report should include discussion of the Veteran’s documented
    medical history and lay statements. Any indicated evaluations,
    studies, and tests should be conducted.
    The examiner should identify the nature and severity of all current
    manifestations of his service-connected mixed organic personality
    disorder with depression. The examiner should also specifically
    address the impact that such has on his social and occupational
    functioning.
    All opinions or findings provided must include an explanation for
    the bases for the opinion. If any of the above requested opinions
    – 34 –
    IN THE APPEAL OF
    LEMUEL C. BRAY
    cannot be made without resort to speculation, the examiner must
    state this and specifically explain why an opinion cannot be provided
    without resort to speculation.
    7. After the above development has been completed and all
    obtainable records have been associated with the claims file, afford
    the Veteran a VA examination to determine whether his lumbar
    spine disorder and cervical spine disorder are related to his military
    service or his service-connected TBI. The claims file must be
    provided to the examiner, to include a copy of this Remand. The
    examiner must review the claims file in conjunction with the
    examination and discuss in the report the relevant contents of the
    claims file as well as any relevant statements by the Veteran. The
    examiner shall note in the examination report that the record (i.e.,
    the electronic claims file) and this Remand have been reviewed.
    After examining the Veteran and taking a complete and thorough
    medical history, the examiner should offer an opinion as to the
    following questions:
    a) Whether it is as least as likely as not (a 50 percent or higher
    probability) that the Veteran’s a lumbar spine disorder and cervical
    spine disorder developed as a result of his military service, to
    include his in-service motor vehicle accidents in 1969 and 1971;
    b) Whether it is at least as likely as not ( a 50 percent or higher
    probability) that the Veteran’s lumbar spine disorder and cervical
    spine disorder were caused by his service-connected TBI, to include
    whether symptoms of seizures, absences, or attention deficit, are
    associated with his service-connected TBI, whether such led to the
    September 1990 motor vehicle accident; and whether his lumbar
    spine disorder and cervical spine disorder are related to that accident.
    – 35 –
    IN THE APPEAL OF
    LEMUEL C. BRAY
    c) Whether it is at least as likely as not (a 50 percent or higher
    probability) that the Veteran’s lumbar spine disorder and cervical
    spine disorder were aggravated by his service-connected TBI, to
    include whether symptoms of seizures, absences, or attention deficit,
    are associated with his service-connected TBI, whether such led to
    the September 1990 motor vehicle accident; and whether his lumbar
    spine disorder and cervical spine disorder were aggravated by that
    accident. If the examiner determines that there is aggravation, the
    examiner should state, to the best of their ability, the baseline
    symptomatology and the amount, quantified if possible, of
    aggravation beyond the baseline symptomatology by the
    aggravation.
    With regard to the questions above, the Board emphasizes that each
    must be answered. The examiner should take into consideration all
    of the evidence of record, to include in- and post-service medical
    records, as well as the Veteran’s lay statements concerning in-service
    incurrence and post-service symptomatology, accepted
    medical principles, and objective medical findings. All opinions
    expressed must be accompanied by supporting rationale.
    8. Refer this case to the Director, Compensation Service, for
    consideration of assignment of an extraschedular TDIU prior to July
    10, 2009, under the provisions of 38 C.F.R. § 4.16(b ).
    9. After completing the above, and any other development as may
    be indicated by any response received as a consequence of the
    actions taken in the preceding paragraphs, the Veteran’s claims
    should be re-adjudicated based on the entirety of the evidence. If the
    claims remain denied, the Veteran should be issued a supplemental
    statement of the case. An appropriate period of time should be
    allowed for response.
    – 36 –
    IN THE APPEAL OF
    LEMUEL C. BRAY
    The appellant has the right to submit additional evidence and argument on the
    matter or matters the Board has remanded. Kutscherousky v. West, 12 Vet. App.
    369 (1999).
    This claim must be afforded expeditious treatment. The law requires that all claims
    that are remanded by the Board or by the United States Court of Appeals for
    Veterans Claims for additional development or other appropriate action must be
    handled in an expeditious manner. See 38 U.S.C.A. §§ 5109B, 7112 (West 2014).
    MARJORIE A. AUER
    Veterans Law Judge, Board of Veterans’ Appeals

    1. @Lem – – – Curious. Besides TBI, are you claiming other medical conditions related to this condition? Can you list the military related medical conditions that you; (1.) are currently receiving compensation for, and (2.) the conditions that are still pending?

      I want to be aware and prepared in possibly filing for multiple conditions that may be related to each other. Just trying to get a feel for this, while seeking out a VSO that I can trust. With VA diagnosed PTSD, and the symptoms becoming intensified due the life threatening actions of VA PCP, I don’t want to go into the compensation process blind folded. Thanks. – – – Nutter.

      1. No problem. I’m 40% TBI and 30% Personality disorder from TBI. 20% hearing and 10% tinnitus that predated the TBI unless it was from concussive effects, which have now been shown by NIH to cause brain damage, of being under a 5″ gun turret when it was firing without protective gear. Total to 70% on the combination schedule which gave me the 38 CFR 4.16 (a) TDIU 100% rating from the BVA.

      2. Very interesting. And, as you know, complex for most Veterans that are trying to understand the system without mentorship. Many Veterans are perplexed. Plus, the VSO’s are corrupt or ignorant as can be. I see why one must always keep challenging BVA findings if not satisfied per the Veterans evidence. Thanks. – – – Nutter.

      3. I’m claiming a CUE of PTSD on a 1985 decision and a CUE on confirmation of complex partial seizures in a 1992 decision and a CUE for spinal disc disease secondary to the TBI seizure condition. All are in Remand from the BVA decision.

        My advice is to take the short cut offered by the VA to have the VA develop your case. Then go to Hadit.com and get help to file an appeal to the BVA asking for a “DE novo review” plus a remand for any suspect C & P exams.

        I’m looking for a site to post my BVA decision redacted. I think it would be helpful because I had a real good Judge. The DE novo review was well done and the Remand doesn’t give any wiggle room to VARO’s RO.

        I also had an excellent brief from my attorney up to a point. She wouldn’t bring up the issue of tinnitus re-dating but I did in the hearing. I would include it redacted.

        I’ll ask the question on Hadit.com to see if I can get it up as an article there.

  10. This seems to be an ass-backwards process. So, this commission, which seems more formal than the previous one, will review applications, then submit their selected candidate for nomination to Trump?

    Why would the WH not be reviewing these applicants for Trump to select a nominee? Is the nomination simply a formality?

    In some respects, I can’t complain about the cost of this latest boondoggle if it means Murphy is drained from the swamp. On the other hand, if bureaucratic swamp creatures on this commission are the ones picking the next creature, we will end up doing this again in several months.

    Unless the WH is more focused at this point and is more forceful in getting a proper nominees name to the WH.

    I guess I will wait and see whose names come up. I suspect a lot of swamp creatures have been scheming over who will help conduct this gravy train.

    1. The swamp creatures and the gravy train are one and the same. I would not be surprised one bit of either Rubens or Graves are nominated…I only expect the VA to keep testing the waters….or pissing in them…

  11. everybody knows you don’t go full retard, yeah they went full retard, they probably fart in bath tubs and laugh uncontrollably too. veterans have choice either an idiot, imbecile or a . They all need to spend some time in one of there despicable mental health wards. personally i’d choice the moron

  12. This position may be Temporary – Indefinite with a Salary of $165,300 per year. To apply for this job & serve as an accountable & innovative steward of the Human Capital; US citizenship, background investigation & Drug Testing etc. is Required AND As a federal employee, you and your family will have access to a range of benefits that are designed to make your federal career very rewarding.

    1. That drug test for AFGE herd at VA is only to ensure they are smoking from the same crack pipes.

    2. Can we give them ice cream too, on their special days? Multiple flavors? Sugar and cake cones? Can they have the whipped crème in the can sprayed in their mouth? Can we spike the ice cream for them? – – – Nutter.

      1. You may be onto something. Every VAMC could become open 24/7 simply if we feed the herd of hacks enough to where they cannot fit out the exits or windows. Need a 3 a.m. colonoscopy for some reason? Bring a box of Twinkies or Ding Dongs as your only copay. Choice would no longer needed but eventually new foundations for all structures would be.

    3. Don’t forget, NiteWish,
      IF they’re caught in a scandal, they can retire with full benefits!

  13. This is the VA way, even when hiring a regular employee. They want a certain employee and they do not meet the standards, so they relist the position and keep doing so until their person is selected.

    The Ethics committee just set up Secretary Shulkin by Authorizing him and his wife to travel. Now the Secretary has been made Null and Void and now VA employee’s can take all the travel they like and take their family with them and the Secretary can say NOTHING about it.

    Our Justice Department needs to investigate the people running the Ethics committee and hold them responsible.

  14. VA commission to select new VBA Under Secretary. Wonder how much shulkin is paying these people on the commission for their rubber stamp of his preselected choice?

    No doubt there will be the usual line-up of totally incompetent and unqualified individuals added to the list to be considered. Making Shulkin’s choice the best of the worst and the best they can find out of the limited people they will consider.

    After all that is how it is done the VA Way. Also that is how Shulkin got his job!

  15. Diana Rubens and her vile HR manager continue to spread their cancer at the Philly RO with impunity from good old boy Tom. Including the alleged embezzlement of hundreds of millions of dollars, death threats to whistleblowers, and the alleged coverup of Veteran employee suicides. A grim but true picture of the Philly RO.

  16. Okay, I also have to ask this; Does anyone else see the profound irony of BVA Thomas “agent orange denier” Murphy WEARING ORANGE, working @ Home Depot? THANK GOD I can still laugh at life!

      1. Given that 1985 decision that protected DuPont. Which severely limited their liability for Agent Orange.

        There is a good chance Murphy could have been working in the paint department handling all the white wash sales to the Gov.

        “https://www.agent-orange-lawsuit.com/settlement/”

  17. Does it seem the hurricane has loosened some of the deckchair’s bolts on V.A. Titanic or are the larger rats just jumping ship because of a larger scandal not yet reported to news as yet? Wait for it…

    1. Rubens and her HR manager are cockroaches that made it ten months into a Trump administration but let’s hope.

  18. RELATED: “Danny Pummill Punished For Role In Fraud Scandal”

    Should the worst happen and some sliver of the truth emerge despite the best efforts of the thugs, corporate media, legal mercenaries and PR handlers, then the playbook follows the script of any well-managed Communist dictatorship:the oligarch predator is thrown to the wolves to protect the oligarchs’ systemic predation and exploitation of the peasantry/debt-serfs.

    1. You just hit the nail right on the head when it comes to Indiana. Both parties in our two party corrupted system, the entire medical systems here, state agencies, politicians, vet groups, those who are paid well and in positions that are supposed to protect and support us, all are a total corrupt waste. Every damn thing basically.

      This is the only forum I have not been attacked on, asked to leave because of PC-ness, “group-think,” for not being a Cultural Marxist or communist/liberal, to being a fan of open borders and other side issues to silence and distract.

      My email providers are playing games to the new swamping with ads and lefty videos. Banned from YuckTube for some darn unknown reasoning, without warnings. I am informed elsewhere it is from spreading info, news, watching alternative news sites and making comments, asking questions or for help. Or in trying to find others locally who may be having the same issues in or out of the VA crap. And from being open about my location and issues. I guess there is rampant “hard censoring” going on by all the internet giants and companies.

      It also doesn’t help matters to write to these internet companies like Mozilla and ask why they joined up with the likes of Soros with their claims of censoring people for “fake news” to not allowing for free speech, or bowing to the “group-think” expectations. That includes dealing with the fascist and special interest groups in the VA and every aspect of life here.

      I can’t find out how many other vets in Indiana are being treated like I am. No-one wants involved or be known. Fear. But the activist sure pure out. I can contact a politician here and within twenty four hours I am having to unsubscribe to tons of lefty news groups and such. After contacting a local hospital’s admin about harassing phone calls and threats from their phone numbers or offices are still going on, and increased now after a slight lull. At times simultaneously from the cell phone and land line. With the only ones talking me out of my cell number was at the VA. Who I informed countless times to never use, and was for my emergency and personal use only. Now the local activist have it. With calls coming from a UAP clinic where I had to go find a PCP after leaving the VA. Which has turned out to be similar to the VA and same lame excuses for mistakes or incompetence, to really not caring. With some sources telling me ill treatment of certain vets is being made by the hundreds. In the past was told this by state offices but not recently. It’s cover-up, lie, misinform, deny, and retaliate time for them all now. So obviously I am at the top of the Indiana and communist shit list for all the attack dogs, social media tyrants, and thugs to go after this pissed off “Polar Bear,” Misogynist, racist, etc. With one common theme being just like the VA for one example…. I am not to ‘question a well educated professional woman or about her position, wrong doing or actions.’ Paraphrased. Those “professionals” side-stepping the issues at hand to mention their activism or agendas, demands? To charge me with being threatening, turning them into some kind of victim for asking questions or wanting some simple information??? The threats from the VA in fruition and worsening.

      I need some surgery. I have been shown I can not trust people, professionals, around here it’s so beyond nuts, networked, with the activist and psychopaths
      everywhere, in every position. What to do?

      Changing heads at the VA top will not help things. The corruption candle needs burned at both ends.. from the top and from the bottom meaning locally and in state agencies and admin. The rats would scurry and eat their own when the flame of truth and exposure got too close to them all personally. Change will not occur due to what you wrote about.

      1. The “Official” Story Will be the ONLY Story We Get to Hear….Coming soon to a computer near you…LOL…..

  19. So they found that pervert at Home Depot, They sure had to dig deep, Must have been a fluke of good luck for them…LOL

  20. The new VA???

    “Search commission candidates will be selected based on criteria governed by law…”

    Maybe this could catch on! Other possibilities;

    “Reimbursement for emergency room visits will be based on criteria governed by law.”

    “Medical teating on human subjects will be selected based on criteria governed by law .”

    “Chicken will be cooked based on criteria governed by law.”

    “Due process will be based on criteria governed by law.”

    “Dead bodies will be buried based on criteria governed by law.”

    “Surgical tools will be sterilized based on criteria governed by law.”

    “Little Mermaid tickets will be purchased for Sec VA’s wife based on criteria governed by law.”

    welll, shit. I knew it would break down at some point! Oh well, life must go on…tennis anyone?

    1. Lest you forget; “Tennis Bracelet for wifey poo to keep a level of separation between wifey poo and Dr. Poon based on criteria governed by what benefits VA Sec. & wifey poo best…and of course, that criteria governed by thing called law.”

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