Did This Veteran Bamboozle VA Examiners For Over $538,000?

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VA Bamboozle

Authorities have once again alleged a severely disabled veteran bamboozled highly educated VA examiners to gain over $538,000 in payments.

For the past few years, the Department of Justice and VA Office of Inspector General have loudly broadcast investigations against disabled veterans while failing to evaluate just how these severely disabled veterans, generally people without advanced degrees, somehow bamboozled highly educated VA examiners.

While any instance of substantial fraud is alarming, even to the tune of $500,000, the mere occurrence of such instances should raise at least a few questions about the disability adjudication system, itself.

Instead, federal allegations tend to solely focus on the lowly disabled veteran who received some amount beyond what he otherwise would have received.

But how can this happen? Is VA not using adequate training measures and adequate adjudication procedures to evaluate the merit of claims and the quality of evidence, already? If so, how can these veterans bamboozle the system like this?

RELATED: Research Suggests 99.4% Of Veterans Don’t Make Fraudulent Disability Claims

Fraud Allegations

Just last week, the Department of Justice announced its indictment against one disabled veteran for allegedly stealing $538,000 in VA disability compensation payments from 1997 to 2013.

Keep in mind, in the land of innocent before proven guilty, DOJ and VA OIG have already begun besmirching veteran Jose Calderon-Fuentes in the press prior to any conviction.

The crime?

RELATED: VA Defrauds 34,000 Combat Veterans Of Health Benefits

Fuentes allegedly exaggerated the severity of his vision disability. According to the DOJ press announcement, he allegedly told a VA examiner that he was unable to see any “better than hand motion or light perception”. DOJ goes on to conclude, “[I]n reality, he knew that statement was false.”

RELATED: VA Fraud Scheme Uses Unqualified Doctors To Evaluate TBI Disabilities

So what?

Fraud Is Bad, But Not Always Punished Fairly

Personally, I think fraud is bad and those who commit fraud should get penalized.

But it certainly seems like the amount of fraud here, while big to some veterans, is really a drop in the bucket when compared to the massive fraud perpetrated against taxpayers by corporations and politicians on a regular basis.

RELATED: The $385 Billion Military Industrial Boondoggle You’ve Never Heard Of

Some years ago, a then subsidiary of Halliburton called Kellogg Brown & Root, was exposed for overbilling the Pentagon to build bases in Iraq and Afghanistan costing billions. Another company, Agility, was caught overbilling the Pentagon and penalized $1 billion. And then there are the untold millions siphoned from these same companies by private individuals through various schemes.

Do you recall the enormous banking fraud leading up to 2008 that almost destroyed our entire economy? Why was only one guy prosecuted?

What about the culpability of players like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and Merrill Lynch leading up to the collapse? Didn’t Goldman Sachs create bets against its own investors and sell investment vehicles known to be shady?

RELATED: Congresswoman Convicted On 18 Charges Including Fraud

In those cases, the perpetrator is rarely held accountable much less named publicly.

RELATED: VBMS File System Not Fraud Proof

For these kinds of benefits fraud against veterans, DOJ and VA OIG are sure quick to make pronouncements without waiting to see what a jury concludes.

For example, in this DOJ article, it states the veteran new his statement about his vision quality was false. But isn’t that a factual determination to be considered by the jury?

The Untold Story Of VA Bamboozle

The untold story in many of these cases is the implicit reality DOJ never mentions in its press releases.

How did this severely disabled veteran, likely without an advanced degree, bamboozle highly educated VA examiners and its adjudication professionals?

There are multiple layers to any claim adjudication. First, a doctor or nurse usually assess the veteran in person.

The doctor has to evaluate if the veteran appears to be an accurate relayer of fact.

Then, the adjudicator evaluates the evidence including the examination notes.

RELATED: VA Pays Execs Huge Bonuses Despite Corruption

Is there any blame on VA for failing to accurately adjudicate or evaluate this veteran? How could these trained professional get duped this way?

I am beginning to grow curious about this pattern and wonder if there is more to the story.

Sources:

https://www.news4jax.com/news/jacksonville-veteran-charged-with-stealing-over-500k-in-fraudulent-benefits

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdfl/pr/jacksonville-veteran-indicted-charges-stealing-538000-fraudulent-disability-benefits

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Lame Brain McCain strikes again. Why is as yet unknown whether he was voting against Trump or just for the Democrats. Or because he hates America.

“Senate Rejects Slimmed Down Obamacare Repeal as McCain Votes No”
By ROBERT PEAR and THOMAS KAPLANJULY 27, 2017
“https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/us/politics/obamacare-partial-repeal-senate-republicans-revolt.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Simply put in the Veterans claim system it is not how disabled you are and how well you prove it. It is all about who you know. When you have County Veterans services officers only providing services to city and county staff. DAV, VFW, and American Legion posts leadership employed by the VA in positions at the VA handling claims. Their assistance is provided in getting a claim through not just if you are a member but if you are… Read more »
Dan
Dan

I dont know what county you live in but the county I live in Aryn-Nate and Tanya will bend over back words and do anything they can to help you. And they ARE county Veteran officers. So please dont paint all of them with the same brush

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
WELL THEY HAVE TO THERE JOB SOMETIMES OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN’T HAVE SOME ONE LIKE YOU TO SAY THEY HELPED YOU ,,,YOUR JUST ONE OF THE FEW LUCKY ONES THAT IS ALL….GIVE ME A PHONE # AND WHAT ORGANIZATION/STATE AND LET ME SEE FOR MYSELF,….ALL MINE ARE IN MY SERVICE MEDICAL RECORDS SO IT SHOULD BE A PIECE OF CAKE FOR THEM…. And I live in Transylvania county where they just want to suck the blood from u and give you… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor
Yeah, right, Dan. It was the very County Veteran’s Commission Officers, VSO’s that let TWO of my best friend Veterans die because they would not go to bat for wither of them when the VA arbitrarily decided to cut their meds off. The one friend went to the streets and was using illegal intravenous drugs to get relief, as he was formerly a RN after all. His County Veteran Svc. Officer KNEW he went to the streets and did not… Read more »
James Gallegos

Numbers not word’s. Post how many claims they won and how many they did not.

And why not !

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Dan,

I am happy to hear that the County Veterans do a great job in your area.

But Around my part of the country when a CVSO does his job they lose it. Here is an article on CVSO that made a mistake and did get a Mickey Fin pulled on him so that he would be fired.

“County fires veterans service officer”
By Shelley Nelson on Nov 3, 2015 at 8:45 p.m.
“http://www.superiortelegram.com/news/douglas-county/3871772-county-fires-veterans-service-officer”

james gallegos
you can show some people all kinds of evidence, yet they will make an excuse, it was only one ! If they would add all of them up its a problem. Well, well it was not me ! ever heard of that Guy, It was not me ! They need to put on here how many cases they won and how many they lost and give examples of the problems these service officers have with the VA, maybe someone should… Read more »
Dan
Dan
I am truly sorry to hear that Seymore as Veterans we deserve better then this. But as I was trying to tell the other guy, it is completely unfair and unrealistic to pain all of the county VA workers with the same brush. There is good and bad on every issue. Its my hope that if the County VA person is doing their job that they are left alone, and it does not hurt to have a Veteran who is… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

@Dan…For God’s sake, there’s a ‘T’ in the word “PAINT”, it’s not PAIN, although you are one.

“Enunciate”–T. Capote, “Murder By Death”

Dan
Dan

For GODs sake, you have a problem with the truth? Seems this site does not have an edit feature or I would have corrected it myself

James Clement
James Clement

That simple explanation seems to fit my experience very well.

Lem
Lem

And mine

Dan
Dan

namnibor, if you want to use foul language do it someplace else I refuted your claim and if you want to call them and ask its 419-782-6861. And you VERY unfairly try and paint all the County VA workers with the brush of your opinion. So tell us namnibor, what makes you any better then the people you are complaining about?

namnibor
namnibor
You can ‘refute’ all you want, I need not call some # not even in my area code or anywhere, I know how I lost my own close friends so do not even try to justify yourself through trying to act like any VA Psych and stating it really did not happen the way you think…if my foul language evokes the asshole in you, perhaps you should be asking yourself why you’re so defensive. Oh, and thanks for further pissing… Read more »
Dan
Dan

You asked me to provide a number namnibor, and I did, now you are complaining about that and still calling names like a spoiled 2 year old. I am sorry but I cannot believe anything you say if you are going to act like this. You are suppose to be an adult, so how about acting like one

james gallegos
what is your VA job, all is well Hu ! Thousands of people will disagree with you, why do you think their is so much talk about the VA being the worst place to work, thousands of veterans dying, denied their deserved disability. Veterans on here do their homework and post what they see and read ! VA has falsified wait time and lies to congress, the VA committee on veterans affairs and the veterans, defending the undefeatable ! Former… Read more »
Dan
Dan
james I dont work for the VA and never have. But to pain every VA worker (county or otherwise) with the same brush is just plain wrong. There are bad ones like the one out in Phoenix that Songbird McCain voted to allow her to get her retirement and bonuses, but I have to believe that there are good ones as well otherwise whats the point of even having the VA. If they are all bad then we need to… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

Dan, unfortunately in many of the bad things we find out about going on at the VA, we also find many of what you describe as “good” employees who are well aware of what the bad employees are doing…and those “good” employees do nothing.

Even in instances where there may be laws requiring they report problems…they stay silent.

James Gallegos
Veterans on this site have said over and over, there are good employees and Some have blown the whistle and for their concerns affecting veterans care, They are retaliated against by the bad one’s. ! I worked for the VA for 25 year’s, I was not social, all work and other employees knew if I seen a veteran being harmed in any way, that employee would be written up. Some people may call that a 🐀, that’s fine at least… Read more »
Dan
Dan

And just how do you know they are looking the other way? SOMEONE had to make a call about the people in Phoenix and Indy and the files that were found outside in the Dumpster at the VA Regional Office in Detroit. So why paint them with the same brush?

namnibor
namnibor

@Dan- *NEVER* did I *ASK* for any fucking number. YOU are putting words in my mouth. Stop being a true dick. Never wanted a number in first place. Check all my posts. Not ONCE did I ask for a number.
Check your meds or maybe your crackpipe is broken you fool putting words in my mouth.
Again, fuck off.

Dan
Dan

Sorry but you did namnibor, and your continued use of foul language is not needed. Any person with two brain cells can say what they want without resorting to profanity. So whats your problem that you seemingly cannot?

James Gallegos

What do u do for veterans. Won vs loss !

What’s ur job.?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

James Gallegos…..I smoke a bowl then I pretend like I’m a doctor ….I was just joking with this comment…….. I’m going to get fired for this

James Gallegos

Me too !!!!

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

LOL

Dan
Dan

A retired Disabled Vet. And Tanya will tell you I have helped with everything I could for any Vet who asked me because its the right thing to do.

Why?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

DAN the dumb ass it was me asking for the # not namnibor

Dan
Dan

Guess we know who the DA is, say hello next time you pass a mirror

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
@Dan & namnibor, First to Dan, I’ve read each comment between you and namnibor. I have to side with namnibor on him NOT asking for a phone number from you! As a matter of fact, you were the one to first offer up a phone number! Secondly, As far as namnibor’s replies back to you. The way his close friends were not taken care of by the Veterans Administration, and local VSO’s, can cause a person to curse! Lastly, I’ve… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

Lets see Dan goes to the VAMC of Northern Indiana & gives a phone # for Defiance, Ohio. Troll alert?

Dan
Dan

No troll alert. fact. SO whats your point? Or do you have something against the truth?

NiteWish
NiteWish

Dan, My point was some ‘trolls’ use identity deception & others here are more apt at spotting them. It was a simple question, nothing more.
There are 100’s of definitions for “Trolls”. “https://darkpsychology.co/troll/”

Dan
Dan

And who is the most proficient poster? The biggest “troll” of them all

NiteWish
NiteWish

Dan, that would be ME.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

NiteWish ….LMFAO

NiteWish
NiteWish

OldMarine, I’ve been angry, I’ve been rude, I’ve cussed, Gone off topic, Participated in chit-chat & etc……

I’ll admit I know nothing. I do research ‘facts’ when I’m interested. So maybe its not Me.

Dan
Dan

No, that would not be you. Its the foul mouthed one

James Gallegos

Were you ever in the military, they curse all the time.

Going to tell the enemy excuse me for cursing. But I have to kill you now !

NiteWish
NiteWish

Veterans call it Free Speech, earned by blood, sweat & tears.

Dan
Dan

In a combat zone yes, I can see that happening. But honestly, would you actually be cursing like that around your mother or grandmother or daughter or aunts? Really?

NiteWish
NiteWish

Dan you have passed my ‘your for real’ test. Welcome aboard. I am female & mostly edit out the foul language, though sometimes I do laugh at it.

Dan
Dan

Im glad I passed your test, though I had no idea I was suppose to take one

NiteWish
NiteWish
While doing VA exercises side arm lifts for ‘arthritis’ I gave myself a spontaneous pneumothorax[lung collapse] Another reason why I don’t trust the VA & their ‘medical’ practices. If not for my niece balling her eyes out please Auntie go to the hospital I’d have just continued to lay in bed until dead. Did that injury on Monday, went to hospital Tues night, released Saturday. Now where is the Prudent Layperson denial letter stating this is not an emergency. LOL… Read more »
James Gallegos

Its really sad, that veterans would rather die at home, afraid the VA will kill them anyway.

Give ur niece a big hug for me, without her, you may not be posting today.

To bad are love one’s are also effected !

At least u have a reason to live, screw the VA !

Let’s stay alive and give them what for !

Dan
Dan

Yes I was in the US Army and retired from there, and yes they do curse but not as much as three of the posters here. Seems like every third word is a curse word

James Gallegos
Maybe they are sailors, so what’s ur story? A lot of people on here have had a really bad experience dealing with the VA. I had to suffer from a gun shot to the head and found out 40 year’s later that due to being shot that the VA had lied about my military records were distroyed in a fire in may 1973 and I was discharged in Oct 1973. Suffered with ptsd, called by the VA that I was… Read more »
Dan
Dan
I agree, they do have a right to be upset with how they were treated. But to try and pain EVERY VA worker with the taint of the idiots that treated them badly makes them no better then the people they were complaining about. Its like my father always told me “If you have a problem with someone, you have a problem with THAT person and that person alone. You DO NOT have a problem with that persons race or… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Dan, resolving a problem with an individual is fine as long as the individual agrees there is a problem, but that doesn’t match reality at the VA where the lies get bigger the higher up the chain you go. If you have a problem in a clinic, you might try resolve it with the clerk, nurse, doctor or chief of the clinic, but when they all lie to cover their asses, then what? Sure a veteran can go to a… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

91… and it was only a FOIA request where the proof was provided that the problem was finally solved.
HOW DID YOU WORD YOUR ..FOIA…I need to do the same.

91Veteran
91Veteran
Oldmarine, your FOIA request needs to be worded towards obtaining records for whatever problem you are trying to solve. In my case, I wanted to see how every VA appointment I had within a certain time frame was coded for whether it was service connected or not, and why they billed my insurance for service connected care. I don’t recall the specific wording, but could look it up if you need. I essentially said I request a printout of every… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

91….Found it..Thank you

Dan
Dan
No, I have to disagree. In just todays Ft Wayne Journal gazette (Wed Aug 2nd) We find that 2 people were fired and 2 more were suspended with the very real chance of them being fired as well at the Peru Indiana VA Outpatient Clinic (Peru Indiana is where they house Air Force 2 so the security around that AF base and town is VERY strict) 1. They reduced the amount of pain killers prescribed to 6 patients without an… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Dan, all of what you said proves my point. Yes, there are those being held accountable now like the husband/wife you mentioned, but only because it became a public issue. The people involved in the medication being cut off are being held accountable due to lawsuits. I can guarantee you those veterans or their families likely repeatedly contacted the VA to resolve those problems, and they were ignored until a veteran died. Think of how many VA employees were contacted… Read more »
Dan
Dan

Again 91 Veteran, what I said proves my point. they are trying to fix the VA but it is not going to happen overnight as the problem didnt not magically happen overnight

91Veteran
91Veteran

Oh, and Dan? If there are some poor VA employees getting their feelz hurt because they are lumped in with bad VA employees, then they should do a better job of getting rid of the bad ones instead of looking the other way.

Dan
Dan

Oh and 91Veteran? Why do you feel the need to attack innocent people?

Dan
Dan

Sorry missed the T in paint. My keyboard slider broke and now my keyboard is lopsided until I get the parts to fix it tomorrow or Thursday. Sometimes I tap the key and it does not make a connection.

Dan
Dan

STILL absolutely NO reason to use foul language. I didnt cause any problems so if he is angry then be angry at the people who caused the problem, not everyone else.

namnibor
namnibor

@Crazy elf- Thanks for having my six. I knew the troll was trying to manipulate and it just will not work. Like I am dumb enough to call some number posted out as bait? Ha…HA!

~~Gurgle~~ *Veracious Troll Alert* ~~Gurgle~~

No more Troll Scooby Snacks for you, Dan. *Dick*

**FLUSH**

(we may have a floater down here)

Dan
Dan

Sorry but you are fast becoming not worth the effort. If you have a problem then you have a problem with the people who caused it, NOT everyone else. maybe your attitude is what needs changed.

cj
cj
@Dan: Dan, how many people does it take calling you an asshole or dick before you get the message. Now I understand in your pea brain mind, that I used foul language, when I was only quoting others. The only attitude I see that needs adjusting is yours, you claim be mad at others and not you, you tell a disabled Veteran on this site “you are fast becoming not worth the effort”. Typical VSO BS, see Dan? It does… Read more »
Dan
Dan

I guess that means that when your parents call you that, then its ok?

cj
cj

You want to talk about parents? let’s start with your bitch mother, asshole, then we can move on to your asinine father. See dipshit, I won’t fall for your bait and trap BS. Last word is mine. Don’t expect an answer to your next post addressed to me.

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Dan
Dan

And just why do you want to talk about your parents like that? The conversation was between me and another person and you decided to stick your nose in it and call names so you cant complain now when it happens to you.

namnibor
namnibor
@Dan The Dumbass Dick: “[And just how do you know they are looking the other way? SOMEONE had to make a call about the people in Phoenix and Indy and the files that were found outside in the Dumpster at the VA Regional Office in Detroit. So why paint them with the same brush?]” Dumbass: It was NOT a single VSO that alerted the horns or played Whistleblower to expose the Phoenix VAMC Wait List Scandal…NOR 99.99% of every other… Read more »
Dan
Dan

Talking about yourself again I see. Respected member? Not hardly. The most vocal and foul mouthed? yes. If this were another thread you would be considered a spammer. And if you did this on any other thread your posts would have been removed for violating the terms of agreement for posting. I have met many people in the Military like you, and we had a way to solve them. We made them walk point.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Dan ……Walk point I bet u should know, just for being A asshole, ASSHOLE…And u sound like a spammer with a funny hat, now run along ASSHOLE no funny hat wearing mother fucker is needed here, go try bull shiting on some other site maybe someone will believe you there ……ARE ALL U FUNNY HAT WEARING TURD’S AS STUPID AS U

Dan
Dan

Talking about yourself again I see. You know your doctors warned you about that.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Dan …..You need to lay off the koolaid and smoke a bowl….and u better watch it I’m a gona huff and puff and blow that funny hat off of your head……want a hit?

Dan
Dan

So now we know why you act like you do. You’re stoned

James Gallegos

Try it boozer, drunks always talk shit and end up with a black eye.

I would rather be around someone smoking pot, than a boozer.

After awhile their true colors come out.

Dan
Dan

Try what?I am not a boozer or a drug user as I find I can do far better with a clear mind then a clouded one

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

U would need to have a clear mind to keep up to my fog-ed one…I bet u learned a lot shuffling papers around…..Want a hit?

Dan
Dan

Have no idea what a paper shuffler is or does, I was in the field.

James Gallegos

Sorry ptsd at work.

Dan
Dan
I know what you mean with the PTSD. Docs said I had a bad case of it back in 93′. Cant be in the same room with a person in a white lab coat as its either fight or run still to this day. And God help you if you come at me with a needle, even in jest. Life took a decided “turn” when you wake up in a hospital and they are operating on you and you have… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

In the newspaper today:
When someone says something ‘obnoxious’ you reply “Am I hearing you correctly, That sounded snippy”

Dan
Dan

No, when someone says Obnoxious I think of three people on this thread who seemingly think they know it all and demand that everyone accept what they state as fact.

James Gallegos

3 you and who else.?

Dan
Dan

Sorry but it isnt me

namnibor
namnibor

@Dan- Why must you be the Moby Dick of Dicks?

Dan
Dan

I cant be. YOU have earned that title and wear it proudly

James Gallegos

This guy is having fun picking on you, ignor him. Not worth our time. No positive input.

NiteWish
NiteWish

James might be a girl or girlyman or part time minister incapable of handling foul words.

Dan
Dan

Highly doubt it. I have colored the air myself when an M-60 opened up on my platoon, but that does not mean I have to use that kind of language every time.

91Veteran
91Veteran

Why would any enemy you faced open up on your platoon with an M-60?

Dan
Dan

Stolen weapon

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

James…….not even a good conspiracy theory…….

Dan
Dan

Maybe not but its all you got

Dan
Dan

I figured that much, thats why I told him in my unit; he would have a perm assignment of walking point

CorpsmanUp!
CorpsmanUp!
The problem is that the OIG is set up to recover the money years later after a claim has been approved. Just like insurance fraud investigators. It is just time to expose the OIG again with their fraudulent prosecutorial practices. They have agents who actively search through the CAPRI system when they do these types of investigations. They require a warrant , but they don’t follow the law as required. They government including DOH is a Racket against veterans. My… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@CorpsmanUp! – – – I’m a warm fart close you. We should get in touch with one another. Leave a note, and I’ll post my number. I left you a comment a couple of days ago. – – – Nutter.

Jo3n

The question is did he? All I know is what the VA said. I’m a firm, do the crime, do the time. If you get caught. How VA handles Veterans claims is another subject altogether. What’s going on now in the VA is scarier.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@91Veteran – – – I got your comment about contacting the Information Officer, to obtain my progress reports from my Nurse and ex-PT person. Something is amuck since the only thing of the reports in my file, is the a note saying they were received. Why the VA doesn’t have this information on my file, maybe hiding something like I’m really not well enough to continue on THEIR (VA’s) path of treatment. My Nurse agrees with everything that I’ve shared… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
ANutterVet, saying what they can find in your file and complying with a FOIA request are two different things. Any of your providers could intercept your request for records and claim not much is found. A simple request may not have much weight in law. With a FOIA request, the Privacy Officer is required to log it in, required to respond that they received your request, required to make a search of whatever clinic might have your records, and required… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

To add to my comment ANutterVet…I was lied to repeatedly by local VA officials, and other VA management all the way up to that worthless fuck McDonald.

I can prove it because I got tired of being lied to and submitted a FOIA request.

Dennis
Dennis
Anyone want to hazard a guess how many vets who work at VA eventually receive VBA be efits of some kind? Any wagers on how many former military VA nurses retire early via the IU clause and suddenly become diagnosed with a service connected disability after they work at VA for a while? Has ANYONE ever investigated former military VA employees to see if the statistical odds are in their own favor when applying for services? How about individual state… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

DENNIS….. Did you know there are HUGE statistical differences between who gets granted VBA benefits for PTSD according to which state they are sought in?…….you are right, And Not just PTSD every thing you claim.

or is it just too tough to track them down on the ski slopes of Aspen?….LOL…LOL GOOD ONE

namnibor
namnibor
Those huge differences between VA benefits depending what State they live in and apply in exists as to show very clearly that the VA is definitely NOT a standardized system but rather, a huge standardized systemic mess. ANY true ‘system’ would not matter one bit whether applying for benefits while living in New Jersey or Arizona but there indeed is a huge chasm between facilities and VA Regional Offices….yet, the regulations are all standardized and NOT State Specific, so……………..that CLEARLY… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
Maybe that veteran needs to hire a good P.R. firm and turn his steaming pile of shit into a nice chocolate cake like the VA does…The OIG is a joke its just PR blowing smoke up our asses like they are doing something,..YEA you get vet’s that try to scam the system but its peanuts compared to what they get away with. A VA employee gets caught and its only musical chairs, There settlement agreement when they fire an employee… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

RAND Corp. has found upon very close evaluations that the VA’s world famous shit sandwiches are indeed standardized brown matter from State to State. The only difference is the thixotropic properties of those world famous shit sandwiches. Some stick to the walls like super glue and others just slide right down.

Rand Corp. recommends fiber made from shredded Kevlar and Teflon.

namnibor
namnibor

Word of the day: Thixotropic-(use in medical/chemistry) The property exhibited by certain gels of becoming fluid when stirred or shaken and returning to the semisolid state upon standing.

Used in VA setting: Engorged Purple Team Member is a thixotropic bag of shit.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Well I know for a fact if you use the Teflon diet there is no need for toilet paper, may not even need to flush with the momentum coming out of the chute but that only works if you stay away from the VA shit sandwiches and their so called medicine…But if you do take their form of medicine and need to detox watch the vid. below for directions …LOL

“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRwlwCH1vmI”…1;29 min
Taking A Trip | Assy McGee

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

I should have added this song also came to mind.
Paul Simon – Slip Slidin’ Away …LOL
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUODdPpnxcA”

namnibor
namnibor
My ass does not need the encouragement of depth charges to loosen things up. I live with polar opposite problem and dream of *just* one day of being constipated. Just one day would be nice. Already have sufficiently caused to have my property management/landlords to have to replace -2- American Standard toilets…think I’m missing out on some quality control $$$$ here. The only Teflon Shit Sandwiches (TSS) are those from AFGE herd. Nothing sticks to them, not even the law.… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Namnibor – – – Haven’t heard the word Thixotropic- semi fluid to fluid state, visa versa. Memories of organic chemistry. Microbiology- thermophile; an organism that can withstand, survive, and multiply in a wide temp environment. VA AFGE Union Employee’s and Staph are thermophiles. Thermophiles that live in a Thixotropic environment.

namnibor
namnibor
$790 BILLION Defense $$$ Allocation to avoid a Gov’t Shutdown Oct.1, but the congress critters, including insane McCain could NOT come-up with $$$ to extend VA Choice Program? Some war profiteering contractors are getting really fat off Uncle Sam. Maybe USA’s sons and daughters should simply cease being willing to fight their wars and force the bankers and congress critters to go fight them….or their engorged offspring?! That allocation was not your normal military budget…it was only to stave-off a… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Hey Namnibor, They did reach a deal the main sticking point was caused by the VSOs claiming that if they only fund choice it will hurt the VA. So the deal for emergency funding to the choice program had to include additional funding for more leases to expand the VA, more money to make improvements to existing properties, more money to update medical equipment and increased funding for hiring more staff at the VA. Without the additional pork the emergency… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Didn’t mean to make you mood worse!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Those J1 Visa Lawyers are going to be rich with all the new hires.

namnibor
namnibor
I’m envisioning the VSO’s and House/Senate Congress Critter lobbying scenario to be looking very much like the great game called “Angry Birds”. Of course. the VSO’s are the giggling and snarling piggies and all the congress critters are the ‘Angry Birds’ with clipped wings from the piggy lobbyists. The Systemic Cesspool with the Piggies all lined-up at the feeding $$$$ trough. Those fucks were only concerned about their relevancy, NOT improving the damn VA or the VSO piggies would surely… Read more »
Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Forgot to mention that the 28 leases are for new Department of Veterans Affairs (V-A) major medical facilities. They have been planning this maneuver for a long time now.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly
Here is a list of some of the places they will start building with the new leases. Notice that they include building new offices for the Black Hole in Aurora Colorado. The pit that keeps on taking. Also notice the number of new research facilities. That is VA speak for new buildings on College Campuses. ************* *Virginia congressmen, senators applaud inclusion of medical leases in veterans legislation* Published Friday, Jul. 28, 2017, 7:15 am “http://augustafreepress.com/virginia-congressmen-senators-applaud-inclusion-medical-leases-veterans-legislation/” “For more than a year,… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

Jesus H on a Qtip.

Leases? Didn’t Shithead recently talk about closing facilities?

Lem
Lem

Another vet taking the fall for some high level educator’s fraud? They eventually caught the Director of Education on Guam but those of us who paid back funds we never received never got our money back.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
Here’s three articles out late yesterday. 1.) From: “The Military Advantage Blog” Titled: “VA ‘Choice’ Funding Deal Near; Trump Targets Transgenders” Posted by: Tom Philpott 2.) From: “military.com/daily news” Dated: 27 July 2017 By: Richard Sisk. Titled: “Transgender Troops Welcome at VA Despite Proposal Ban” This is from “Liar Shithead Shulkin”! Also, in the comment by “16201640”, this person gives a great reason on why transgenders should not be given “sex changes on the government’s dime!” They claim their “this… Read more »
namnibor
namnibor

How about “Lying n’ Shit Shulkin? 🙂

cj
cj

-!ii!-

cj
cj

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OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

“https://www.apexgunparts.com”

ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@OLDMARINE – – – Right on, I like ANY other person, whether being a CIVILIAN or VETERAN, has the right to know what is in their Medical Records, and that these records are to be kept private. Your Health and Medical Records are protected under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), and it applies to the VA as well. I’d would encourage you to check yours if you have any suspicions that they are wrong, due to any… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Sorry for the errors in grammar. Way too much on my plate.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – – – Can I have an estimated time of arrival for your research? Need to rock and roll, and make some heads vibrate and racket, spilling out the VA’s incompetence and neglect so that ALL can see, and to be encouraged to go after and fight the VA, to obtain proper health care, and to collect monies for damages.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

While I know that looking in to a claim is important to you. I need to ask you, are you looking into receiving proper Medical Care outside the VA?

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Affirmed. At home Nurse visits today. Need to compare notes. VA will TRY to jeopardize anyone, even the 3rd parties they hire to take care of Veterans.

Seymore, thank you for your concern. As you are well aware, its very taxing on a Veteran when they KNOW that they have to protect themselves from a party that is supposed to help the person reach their best goals in health. Rat Bastards.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

@Seymore Klearly – – – My wife, also my Primary At-Home Caretaker, had to have an emergency visit to the Dentist. One her molar’s broke in half. Add on another $3,000 for one tooth.

From my experience, being negatively conditioned by the VA, can cause people to get upset when other things in life add more to their plate that is already overfilled and flowing over.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf
From: “The Next News Network” “Gary Frenchi reporting” Dated: July 27, 2017 (05:54 minutes long) Titled: “This Former Army Special Forces Vet Just Risked Everything to Get This Message to Trump!” I have to say this. Do y’all remember what many young college aged people said during the “First Gulf War” about “joining the military?” There was a lot of blow back from many military service personnel. Remember these words; “I didn’t join the military to go to war. I… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran
Crazy Elf, I recall that bullshit about only joining for the college education very clearly. One case in particular was a professor at UW Madison in WI saying his son only joined for the college. He was rather public in his comments about it such that if he were my father, I would have joined the fucking foreign legion just to get away from the embarrassment. I also recall those raving nitwits in Madison claiming a draft was coming, and… Read more »
General Genius H Kennard
General Genius H Kennard

VA is just getting a taste of their own fraudulent medicine but if it’s documented by the actual military who could argue with the truth!

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Break time, but following . . .

Dan
Dan
I am curious. “Song bird” McCain is supposed to be 100% perm and total disabled and cannot lift his arms any higher then right below his shoulders. Ok if that is the case, then exactly how did he lift his arm so his hand was higher then his shoulder when he told the VA he couldnt do that, and this was shown in the Senate Video when he voted down the Skinny bill. Secondly he is supposed to be 100%… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Dan…HE GOT HELPED BY HIS PUPPET MASTER…..PULLING HIS STRINGS FROM ABOVE…LOL

namnibor
namnibor

That puppet master is a club called the Ring Knocker’s Club, aka Silver Spoon Spelunkers.

Lem
Lem

Take another look at the video. He listed left to get his hand above his head. Arm did not go above shoulder.

Hope he’ll do it again for veterans. Including those who only get 30% for not being able to lift their arms above their shoulders.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Lem …I would kick him down to 10% he can blow his nose, and another 3% for not being able to comb his hair rounded off to the 10% …NEXT…I’m giving out C&P exam’s out today…Just smoked a bowl and I feel like a doctor
What a deal…LOL .Anyone else

Lem
Lem

I believe he can comb his hair. Just has to use alternating hands and tilt his head to the comb.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Lem….Well I can fix that just put a lowering kit on his neck just like they do on cars then I can knock off his other 10% and save the tax payer some cash ..My bonus money comes from a percentage on how many I can cut…this C&P job sure is sweet man, I’m bringing in the Lincoln’s,…LOL….

cj
cj

Go go gadget, comb.
Go go gadget, voting arm.
Go go gadget??????????

cj
cj

Go go gadget Rock em Sock em Robot neck.

Lem
Lem

Point is officers get 100% for what a grunt gets 30%.

namnibor
namnibor
Just for fun, when giving McCain a reevaluation, simultaneously set-off an entire pack of M80’s and let loose a cage of angry crows and if he lifts his arms and screams reduce him to 0% and tell him he can continue to collect his 1)Retirement Military pension, 2) Senate Salary and all perks, 3) Social Security, and 4) all his lobbyist kickbacks and such…he will hardly miss his VA 100% Comp., while someone at the VA funnels it their way… Read more »
ANutterVet
ANutterVet
@Seymore Klearly – – – Had my visit with In-Home Nurse today, and EVERYTHING is VERIFIED. VA is DEFINATELY INCOMPETENT, with an overdose of NEGLIGENT MALPRACTICE. ALL EGGS ARE IN OUR BASKET. The light is green, and there is NO DOUBT that the VA is responsible. I have the full support of my Nurse, and our notes are almost a mirror image with slight deviations. I’m ready on my end. WHOMEVER is at FAULT, this is NOT MY PROBLEM. Let’s… Read more »
Don Karg
Don Karg
07/28/2017 Dear Benjamin Krause, One thing comes to my mind after all the countless number of Aerospace Crimes that were prosecuted in Southern California during the late 1980s and early 1990s [recorded/reported in the LA Times] —kickbacks. No doubt there are kickbacks involved in this case—Just look at the Sharon Helman case [concert tickets]. Nothing new under the Arizona Sun. Stay on the Phoenix VA—-the roaches are not the main concern —508 is the VA’s body count [VA’s number 293… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
I will probaly get fired for this…. #1. The American Medical Association (AMA) From TruthWiki: The year is 1847. Physicians in America are not enjoying competing with inexpensive, natural remedies, which are offered by Indians and skilled midwives. These are remedies which are effective but are not profitable or patentable, so elitist physicians join forces and form an alliance called the AMA, the American Medical Association. Not just any doctor was allowed to join this new, prestigious organization, but only… Read more »
Lem
Lem

Right on target. best prevention for a cold and cure for a cold is moisturizing the airways and a little cinnamon. Drying of the mucus membranes causes cracks which allow the invasion of the cold and flu airborne viruses.

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Another resort is to take triple antibiotic ointment (although not a natural treatment), and put a dab on a cotton swab, then lightly swipe the swap in a circular motion to coat the inside nostrils. This is very effective.

Also, flushing your nose with warm water, then a cold rinse that will shock the tissue to contract and tighten up. A very safe process that I use all the time. – – – Nutter.

NiteWish
NiteWish

I understood only distilled water should be used to flush the sinus due to some kind of brain parasite.

namnibor
namnibor
I have the heavy-duty version called Mupirocin 2% ointment. Been doing it with the nostrils for decade now, ever since the initial chronic MRSA infections. Now, it does not take much for me to have random MRSA outbreaks ever since those really bad ones needing actual surgery rather than lancing. Powerful ointment and it moisturizes. I was on a PIC Line and self-administering IV’s of Vancomiacyn (sp?), a heavy duty MRSA killing sting like hell medication for 8 weeks straight.… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

Namnibor, how do you know that you have MRSA, are there signs? I spent 3mos basically living @ the Sloan Kettering Cancer Center NY w/my mom, she had it, the hospital was infested with it but the VA would not test me for it. Since then I’m concerned I may be carrying it. I didn’t understand I could get it from Mom at the time & didn’t/wasn’t always provided protective gear.

namnibor
namnibor
@NiteWish- A person is considered MRSA Positive until at some point you test negative 3 or 5x within a 6 month window. But my experience started back in early 90’s that turned into something around spine, nothing on surface, just terrible beating pain…back then it was seen as an anomaly, and even though had no health insurance, I was forced to remain in hospital for 4 weeks back in 90’s after the surgery, of which had to be emergency as… Read more »
NiteWish
NiteWish

damn Nam you’ve been dealt a raw deal way to much in this life. Possibly a next life will be full of good fortune. I was having a nice ice cream bar when I checked images for carbuncles, yea rather gross. You are a strong soul I am glad I met you, my life has been enriched.
And always be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.

namnibor
namnibor

@NiteWish- Now you’ve done it. My demented mind will now have dreams of “Carbuncle Ice Cream”. LOL. Those are two words that *never* should be anywhere near each other: Carbuncle Ice Cream. 🙂

In all seriousness, I am every bit the survivor in this life with a strong dose of “Donnie Darrko”. That movie is a close soundtrack to my life thus far. 😛

James Gallegos

Your not fired, should be hired. But the VA does not like veterans who think for themselves.

So I guess ur on leave without pay.

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
#2. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) The FDA green lights nearly any drug that is chemical based for treating disease and disorder, yet bans every single seller of natural remedies from stating on a product label that the remedy cures or prevents disease or disorder, when thousands of them really do. The FDA also promotes GMOs without labels, when 90 percent of Americans want them labeled. #3. The Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) The CDC is a… Read more »
OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE
#5. Susan G. Komen “For the Cure” (Komen Foundation) Criticized for its use of donor funds and choices in sponsors, like Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC), cancer education by Komen is in full swing, with a huge push for mammograms all over the world. Reviews of mammograms suggest an increased risk of developing breast cancer from too much radiation, plus mammograms run the risk of false-positive readings. Anyone hungry for a bucket of hydrogenated-oil-soaked, hormone-laced KFC? Komen also sells bottles of… Read more »
91Veteran
91Veteran

The Komen Foundation has been very good at advertising their breast cancer awareness fight with pink ribbons, and of course the show the NFL puts on every year by wearing pink.

The Komen Foundation got into a pickle a few years ago because of their partnership with Planned Parenthood, and when many started pointing out the statistical increase in women with breast cancer who had abortions.

Not sure whatever happened with that.

James Gallegos

I’ll bet u not long from now, as soon as they can get a foot in the marijuana door, it will be deemed a medical miracle.

They will make sure they control the money !

NiteWish
NiteWish

bamboozled haven’t heard that word since childhood.
The new weekly accountability report came out today @
“https://www.va.gov/accountability/”

K
K

2 more pages up to 32. Been quiet here where I live for 6 days. You wouldn’t believe what happens here va employees.

James Gallegos

Why did you stop there. Finish the story !

K
K
I have been on their so called harass and surveillance which is stalking for what they decide is against their way of we can do anything we want to a patient, especially if reported. And they continue as to think I won’t say nothing. Sit outside my bedroom window or balcony leave when close up. Go to trash one guy starts to walk toward me in dark. I give look ur balls r mine he backs off. Drive by me… Read more »
James Gallegos

Take you time and get your phone and record these people and then call the police.

Situation solved. Start from the start not the middle of the story.

Take ur time, who, when, where and how ?

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

K…WHAT STATE DO U LIVE IN…..

js
js

How do you make an honest man dishonest?

Leave the door open.

K
K

how do you make a dishonest man honest? Laugh at them for mentioning the noun man. Laugh all the way to their cell. Lmao again

ANutterVet
ANutterVet

Do you need to find Federal cases, dockets and filings from U.S. District Courts and U.S. Courts of Appeal?

Then visit; “https://dockets.justia.com”

OLDMARINE
OLDMARINE

Saved that link thanks

Jo3n

After reading all comments, I forgot what the theme is. Anyway, day to day things are getting worse for Veterans, definitely not better. Choice is useless to most of us. By the time you get a referral, it’s broke again. All these new VA outpatient clinics will end Choice. I cannot fight the VA. In fact, I’ve come to despise the VA and anyone associated with the VA. Until Trump takes away my Medicare, I will use it.

James Gallegos

They have taken away Veterans pensions already, next is service connected disability payments.

That’s how they will fund the choice program.

K
K
Not quite it won’t happen va compensation will remain. And I think choice will change. If they can find savings and make money off private sector. Employees know now jobs at risk, VA looking for professional quality medical personnel. Will those little guys n girls keep following those twisted upper pro employees? Or will they ban together and take care of their families? Especially now they can see freight train headlights coming and the twisted can’t protect or promote anymore.… Read more »
James Gallegos

Don’t know, they interviewed two veterans who stated their pensions were taken away already.

If you have not been on here b4 welcome and share ur story.

Your story is part of history and will be recorded for all time.

NiteWish
NiteWish

quantum entanglement, burn down the house – Believe-

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