VA Misled 440,000 Veterans About Their Incomplete Enrollment Applications

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Misleading Information

IG said VA tried to fix failing to resolve 867,000 incomplete veteran health care applications by sending wrong information to 440,000 of them.

Of course, agency leadership was caught trying to purge the system prior to the agency’s release of the IG report. Luckily, whistleblower Scott Davis called out the agency last week.

The review included “867,000 pending enrollment records” where VA sent out “440,000 outreach letters that … identified and requested the wrong information” needed to complete the enrollment process.

Think VA really intended to fix this issue? If you think the answer is “yes” please explain how it could get so many things wrong.

High-Level Enrollment Findings

Here is what IG found:

VHA did not provide effective governance necessary to ensure oversight and control over the health care enrollment program at its medical facilities. VHA relied on and required medical facilities to establish step-by-step procedures for processing enrollment applications without implementing effective processes and structures to monitor those activities.

We determined that only 38 of 106 VA medical facilities sampled had local enrollment policies. In addition, individual medical facilities that did have guidance were permitted to adopt local practices that were inconsistent with national policies, such as delaying or preventing the processing of applications in certain categories.

The reliability of health care enrollment data could also be improved. VHA data systems did not have the capability to identify new enrollment applications or provide the basis for independent testing of timeliness or supporting documentation. We projected that only 197,000 of our universe of 427,000 enrollment records (46 percent) represented FY 2015 applications for enrollment.

Furthermore, only 67 of the 127 FY 2015 applications (53 percent) in our sample had the timestamp required to measure processing time. As a result, we could not make conclusions related to timeliness or supporting documentation. 

These irregularities occurred because VHA lacked effective governance over the health care enrollment program. VHA lacked appropriate guidance necessary to ensure a standardized enrollment process nationwide. In addition, adequate formal oversight and monitoring did not occur and quality control reviews were minimal. Formal training was also not provided to eligibility and enrollment staff at VA medical facilities. Finally, VHA did not adequately monitor program effectiveness or ensure that accurate data were available for program transparency.

Due to the variance in program implementation, VHA did not have reasonable assurance that veterans would receive proper consideration or consistent and timely enrollment decisions at VA medical facilities nationwide. VHA also could not accurately report on performance nationally or make informed program-level decisions based on available data.

Enrollment Examples

Here are some specific examples IG highlighted in its report:

Salt Lake City VA

The Salt Lake City, UT, VA Medical Center (VAMC) had a written policy in place for 10 years that specifically stated that veterans were not to be loaded into VistA until eligibility for health care can be established. The veteran was essentially turned away if the application was incomplete. Enrollment staff would not enter the applicant’s information into VistA and the facility kept no record of the applicant’s intent to apply.

Puget Sound Health Care System

The Puget Sound Health Care System had a standard practice of providing applicants with information cards that identified resources for obtaining military information. Enrollment staff would not enter the applicant’s information into VistA and the facility kept no record of the applicant’s intent to apply. The applicant was essentially turned away and VA-initiated follow-up would not occur.

Minneapolis VA

Another facility, the Minneapolis Health Care System, delayed health care enrollments by not interviewing individuals who applied in person and then deferring the entry of the applicants’ information into VistA to a later date. 

All applications submitted to the Minneapolis facility were organized in a file cabinet and processed in the order in which they were received. Enrollment staff would then enter applications into VistA at a target rate of four applications per hour. This processing method was used even if the individual applied in-person at the facility. Enrollment staff did not interview the applicant as required and did not enter the registration into VistA while the applicant was present.

[E]nrollment staff provided applicants a return mail envelope with instructions on how to obtain evidence of military service. The entire burden of follow-up was transferred to the applicant and no other contact was made by facility enrollment staff. Conversely, at the Tampa VAMC, enrollment staff tracked follow-up activities and contacted applicants up to four times via mail in a 90-day period. While the facility made aggressive attempts at follow-up, the facility shortened the codified allowance of one-year down to 90 days.

Source: https://www.va.gov/oig/pubs/VAOIG-16-00355-296.pdf

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138 COMMENTS

    • On a serious note, never get so low and feelings of your not worthy, because that is only one of there sickest performances to bottom you out. It is in you if your going through any this too get what you need and go elsewhere. You can make payments. I’ve experienced some of the worst they have to offer sic. It was possibility I died, ha my body won but damaged. I continued to go thinking someone’s had morals. Forget about it. Go elsewhere if this goes on. Less stress on your heart, and it will remain your heart not theirs to kill dead. Sounds strange but absolutely fucken true and then some. Go away if needed

  1. “[…We determined that only 38 of 106 VA medical facilities sampled had local enrollment policies. In addition, individual medical facilities that did have guidance were permitted to adopt local practices that were inconsistent with national policies, such as delaying or preventing the processing of applications in certain categories….]”

    These “local policies” allowed at each VAMC that may differ markedly or only slightly, collectively, makes the VA a systemic mess. Notice how the VA OIG used the word ONLY in that “…ONLY 38 of 106 medical facilities had local enrollment policies…]”, as if 38 out of 106 was a GOOD THING? If you took a college course and you missed 38 out of 106 questions, you would be lucky to get an even 60%, which is a FAILING GRADE, rat bastards!
    With absolutely no adherence to STANDARDIZATION across the VA, you end-up with a SYSYEMIC CLUSTER FUCK…and I am now convinced this is the way the VA prefers it as they have proven over and over again that they have ZERO INTEREST in complying…ZERO.

    Since the VA has recently redefined accountability and what it does not mean for the VA, you can not convince me that nobody in upper management or elsewhere cannot see the systemic mess created from remaining stubbornly a systemic mess…and the irony of all this that shoves that boot even further up Veteran’s asses is FACT we Veterans are TRAINED to operate and thrive within a well-oiled system. With that said, the VA KNOWS they are a systemic mess and it’s all part of their psyops in fucking with us.

    • Fuckyeah fantastic r they, kind of like someone shitting on ur ice cream cone. I give my spot for vet to get help. Budah judus damn help dis shitheads. Need new statue in front every VA med ctr. Lincoln with shit smeared all over his face. Then I’d know right place me be at.

  2. Up until (approximately) 2005-6, 2014 and again in 2015, the VHA in Lake Baldwin, Orlando, Florida, did NOT have my Army service records, or so they claimed. Therefore, my “Boots on Ground” Vietnam Duties was NOT listed! They only had my Naval service recorded. Since 2005 or 06, I thought I had “fixed the problem”! Not so. In 2014, and again in 2015 and 16, the wife and I had to correct misinformation in my records!

    This, in some ways, explains why the medical field was reluctant to diagnose me with conditions relating to my Army overseas “Combat Duty!”

    This, some might think, is standard practice at VA’s nationwide! I think it is! Because, IF VA can figure out a way to screw the average veteran, they will!

    Here’s the kicker – The VA has not only had my Army DD-214’s since 1971 or 72, well before my Navy discharges, they’ve had my Army Medical Records for the same time frame!

    It’s been a real challenge to insure my FULL dual-military service, both branches, stays on the books at VA. They’ve changed my military service multiple times. They’ve changed my address multiple times. They’ve changed my marital status multiple times. They’ve changed my wife’s address and marital status multiple times. ~It’s a never ending job keeping VA employees honest!~ Evidently, “record keeping” is NOT in VA’s educational system!

    So, reading Ben’s “blog” today, is not a surprise for me and/or my wife!

    • Clue well aware of incoming vets, y giving mo bucks. Many bucks, to busy spending on non vets to make needed asap fucken medical care non existent Hope the cream was good. Oh I mean ice cream. Fuck all those bitches who caused harm or further med problems. N to all who were jeoulous of body’s in shape looking good, decided they shouldn’t fuck you twit bitches.

    • As I stated before no numbers or stories of doing better will change these sick behaviors. Fire fire fire and rehire new Good people do not want to work in that disgusting place of corruption. They appreciate having a soul that doesn’t have to take a dive for the sake of corruption.

  3. I just received this,
    It’s the first article from:
    “Military.com/Daily News”
    Titled:

    “‘Parking Lot’ Suicides Roil VA Hospitals”

    Dated: 14 August 2017
    By: Richard Sisk

    In it, “Lying Shithead Shulkin” states, (paraphrasing) he doesn’t understand why veterans are committing suicide in his VHA parking lots. He further says he believes veterans do it there because VA will take care of the veterans properly! Therefore the family won’t have to discover the Veterans body!
    There’s also a portion of the article about civilian healthcare and the opioid crisis!

    Y’all have got to read the bullshit Shulkin has come up with concerning the “Suicide Crisis” at VHA’s Nationwide!
    Even when Shulkin is presented with the “reason” why a vet commited suicide, he still bullshits his way out of it!
    That fucking BOY needs to be FIRED! And, have charges brought against him! He’s nothing but a lying sack of shit!

    This article really has got my blood boiling!
    Rant out for NOW!

    • P.S.
      And don’t forget to read about what VA is saying about the opioid crisis in the article!
      Really, really stupid shit from VA!

      • Stupid shit from all over actually. Yes the article is a pisser and Shulkin is, again, another one, typical highly paid scum and professionals at lip service and propaganda. But, the corruption and liars are too many to count, and too many groups and companies, reasons, to list.

        Local news fails to report much real news. IF they do they have their usual lefty spin on it. They refuse to report veteran suicides or any suicide for that matter unless it happens in public and are forced to say something about it. So we won’t hear about others issues locally. Too much censoring and propaganda for them to do. If we do hear of such events in the local grapevine like someone stepping out in front of a semi truck or sitting on train tracks, etc., we have to come to our own conclusions or what the family might report to someone. Indiana is not known for decency, transparency, integrity, real news, real community events/happenings, or truth.

        I read the Indiana Business Journal among others. It hints and tells who all effects our care and care from the VA. Or to why we vets and Americans can’t get what we expect from the corporate/college/unions/political complexes or cluster F’s.

        In Indiana if you’re a vet and left the VA it means being investigated and waiting. Ran through checks for doctor shopping, pharmacy checks and prescription details from all over. Told we go through criminal record checks through Homeland Suckerity to see what can be dug up if anything. Then the drug screens, again. Then more games I will not play like sitting in pain clinics for six hours for pain meds. Can’t be done.

        Have been checking and the doctors I ‘ve been told about that do give pain meds, internalist to pain clinics, ask about my insurance which is basic Medicare and cash, turn me down, but accepting people I know who are on medicaid or those with illegals living with them (the illegals) who can get pain meds from special foreign doctors located here. I call the same foreign MD clinics and told they are not accepting new patients or Medicare basic. But I have seen illegals – can’t – get that care or social services here, yet they claim we are a sanctuary city, and they are being taken care of. I have had to wait with vets trying to get them into the emergency ward while the hospital staff scurry them (illegals) into another section of the hospital behind closed doors. Go figure. I can’t get what they can. Indiana does not have Supplemental Medicaid for us as other states provide, or insurance is allowed to provide, just shy of a few months of turning 65 to try to get that going.

        The opioid claims from him is Bull too. No it is not easier to get pain meds or the strength of muscle relaxers needed in civilian care. Or get decent care. I was told the VA and state, civilians, are going by the same legislation state, and medical boards rules for dispensing pain meds. Civilian care is just as messed up as VA care. Complete with misplaced files, Xrays not worthy enough to read, games, contracts, etc. Bottom line is, the opioid change and new demands were in place over-night. If the VA, universities, med schools, law makers, scum, liars, corporations, media, AFGE, service unions, etc. wanted real change it could and would happen just the same way…. over night. The whole damn sheebang in DC and on local to state levels with more added to the list needs fired or their medical and teaching license needs ended.

        PS. Civilian care does not want or like going through the fifty pounds of paper work the VA sends out to them either. They don’t bother about learning about our issues that much. All the clinic appointments and such are interspersed with all the others and makes it a mess to find anything. Plus the lost tests that aren’t included or they claim they want their own. They all want their own test…money money money.

        @CJ I am on your chat thing (Wire) now and waiting for a connection, I think. I am GheeT. lol

    • Depressing. I think the statistics belie another reality. VA Hospitals are easily accessible for desperate vets who are on the verge of ending their lives. The common perception is that the suicides are statements, or otherwise a manifestation of delayed healthcare. However, with 65% of those suicides being committed by those who are age 50 (I’ve heard 55) years and older, it may suggest another motivation. How many of these casualties take place on VAHC grounds because the vet couldn’t get to or find the ghost VA benefits office that have denied them their claims for the last five or ten years?

      • It was that way when I came back from Nam in 69. There was no information to be gotten regarding VA care from anyone.
        Even now it’s virtually Impossible to get info and Rx services in a timely manner. I visited my daughter in Baltimore 8 months ago suffering from excruciating headaches and tried to get some meds from the Baltimore clinic. After I waited for 4 hours they took my BP which was 235 over 112. Even than I was still waiting while street drunks claiming to be vets and could not be identified took precedence over me.
        I left and went to an Emergency unit were I was given an injection and kept for some time for observation. Veterans health care is a bigger rip off of the public taxes than anything else.

      • To guy before your post. All is well and still bullshit. Though allow shulkin to continue the list of firings, only relief of injured or dead. We will now call it Shulkins List. Movie too come stay tuned. Fucken much more than parental guidance though. Law enforcement will be lined up for a beating they never got. Puke fucks waist of Gods children’s.

      • Here is the only was to get even a chance to be admitted and that is to say the following. I want to kill myself. !!

        Veterans that do not say these magic word’s, will be last to be seen after hour’s, then they will be told to return in the a.m.

        Sad but true. I know this for a fact !..

        One must remember that the VA will only treat mental health problems if the veterans have an adjudicated claim !

        Or that is what I was told, over and over.

        The VA believes most 99% of veterans with mental health problems are faking it. Sad but true !

    • They committing suicide not bright about hope and future and any type of character received from hopeless place saving a buck, but will spend that buck on sick selves. Stand tall remember they are on news for corruption not you. And remember if you sense not taking care of medical treatment Get the fuck out Go to hospital if needed. They will give their sista or bro what needed even an federal employees not vets he’ll gangbang neighbor if meets objective.

  4. this happened to many Viet Nam vets in the 70s and 80s. But nobody paid the price for that. Their applications ended up in the trash and shredded. Vets in many cases have trouble existing in our society as it is, leave alone cross all the T’s and dot the I’s.
    The VA wrong doers need to be fired, no severence pay or unemployment benefits and they will find out what vets experience every day.
    Many of the veterans organizations kiss up to congress men and women way to much without demanding accountability from them when it comes to representing veterans. Photo ops do noting for Vets

    • They VSO etc need their priorities examined for they are not for every vet. I wonder who gets special preference, I know they do but who do they leave behind to save a distorted face of VAMC? Not veterans. I’ve seen them get every service from VAMC possible Then speak of it like you can to, then they find out you reported wrong doing and they hush pretending they didn’t get services they already told you about. Fucken freaks backstabbers all in one.

  5. President Trump signed the bill extending the Choice program…they said yesterday that the cost would be partly offset by trimming some veterans pensions that are eligible for medicade…can you explain who this group of veterans are and how much of their pension is going to be “trimmed”????

    • Larry,
      I’ve tried to google your question. Can’t find anything!
      I’ve also called my Congressman. Can’t seem to get a straight answer from him either.
      Right now, there’s lots of “rumors” floating around! Yet, no truthful answers!
      I guess we’re going to have to wait until paperwork comes from the VA before we learn more about HOW we’re going to be screwed!

      In my opinion, I believe the “Veterans Suicide Crises” will more likely than NOT double! Especially after reading the “military.com/daily news” article by Richard Sisk today!
      Lastly, in my opinion, Shulkin doesn’t give a rats ass about veterans and our health! If he did, he’d step down as Secretary of VA!

  6. I think they have us bent over…And I ain’t liking it…..THE VA IS A TOTAL JOKE, ONE BIG SCAM IN PROGRESS…AND EVERYBODY KNOOOOWS …LOL

  7. So what we need is to setup and fund a Veterans organization that is willing to go to war with the established VSO’s and expose them for the crooks they all are. We then can sever the “relationship” the VSO’s have with the VA. Once we have numbers and strength we can then start going after the VA.

    Or we can just sit here and bitch about how fucked up it all is.

    • @Wyldechylde – – – You’d think that from our military experiences, then applying those skills and capabilities that were learned when serving, that many Veterans would be more than willing to form a group, that will focus on certain VA issues, that are in need of reform or reorganization. Many Veterans are reluctant in joining other Veterans, to investigate certain areas of the VA, may be because of suspicions, lack of trust, and other areas of social demarcation points per each individual Veteran. And, some Veterans at the present time, are tied up or overwhelmed is solving their issues with the VA. Whether it is for medical care or the claims processes. My self, I always thought that many Veterans would gather for one cause; help to put pressure on the VA to fix? (the way @Dennis and others feel)

      For me, I’m focusing on gaining as much of my life back as I can. Due the VA’s actions, or inactions, I shouldn’t be in this condition. I’m very close to being admitted to a non-VA hospital. I’m homebound, the VA provides me with a visiting Nurse, that sees me once a week for an hour per visit. And, still there is no treatment plan for me. Conclusion; waste of money and my health.

      When things get stabilized, I plan on doing what I can, or joining a certain group, that their mission is to expose the VA. Expose them first, then apply persuasion pressure on them. What a job this will be. But until then, I’ll keep updated on Ben’s Blog.

      I still have to finish my VA Medical Care date line. In this manner, this will enable me to explain what is gong on from my perspective, and to be able to deliver the outline in a style that in smooth and flowing. Sometimes things changed when you didn’t think that it would. Sort of caught you off guard. – – – Nutter

      • How many thousands of vets belong to military service organisations who collect their dues but faile to truly represent the veterans. All I see is photo ops of the commanders of those organizations in magazines and on TV. So when you say organize, how you going to get the organizers to not fall in line with the rest of the frauds that are in it for notoriety and personal gain.

    • How many thousands of vets belong to military service organisations who collect their dues but faile to truly represent the veterans. All I see is photo ops of the commanders of those organizations in magazines and on TV. So when you say organize, how you going to get the organizers to not fall in line with the rest of the frauds that are in it for notoriety and personal gain

      • The only way to treat the VA is to neuter the AFGE from it and all the rest of lamprey will fall to side when that obstruction is out of the way. No service org./VSO is able to withstand the communicable infectious corruption that exists at the VA. Absolute corruption corrupts absolutely…should be the AFGE motto.

    • I don’t know but dicks only listen too quantity memberships. Check and see which numbers r going down. Shit I didn’t sign with one I have it was given to me. Probably by VA. Find the declining numbers and go. So many dumbfounded peeps for existing SO. Amazing.

  8. Ben,
    You pose the question, do I believe that the VA intended to fix the system? I decided to research in backwards fashion what word would fit by starting with the results and working backward to find the verb that best describes their actions. My conclusion does not fit the definition of the word “fix”, but is spot on for another match I found and have copied and pasted below;

    “sab·o·tage
    ˈsabəˌtäZH/
    verb
    1.
    deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage.

    synonyms: wreck, damage, destroy, cripple, impair, incapacitate;

    noun
    1.
    the action of sabotaging something.”

    As far as do I believe? I do, but as God is my witness there ain’t anything my brother inside of a VA facility that fits into my belief system any deeper than the tube on my toilet paper roll which only holds the “hope” that wipes the buttocks clean.

    • Spot on Dennis. Can’t have a functional single payer system. Then everyone would want one. Legislate/lobby it’s dismal failure, and give it (not sell it) to Pig Med and Pig Pharma. OK – I repeat myself. I’m OK with that.

      • G…Yes u do need help, Just come on in to camp Fema [the killary happy camp], everyone will attend to your magical dreams just for u, included free will be the guillotine surprise..[TIP] Don’t wear anything white
        Your friend KOMRAD KLINK

  9. I called this phone number, because I couldn’t get a straight answer from other sources: ie; VSO’s, Congress, etc.

    Here’s the number;

    (352) 671-8422

    It’s the “VA service number!”
    The gentleman I spoke to said “…NO benefits will be taken from veterans”; i.e. IU or otherwise!

    • Wow fucken wow. Keep yo hate up yo ass. And remember they all asswipe liars. Fuck dipshit millennials are completely retardation at best. They need to rub each other over and over. Less to bury

  10. August 22 from 2–3 p.m. EDT
    Get connected to benefit information and resources

    Don’t miss out on VA benefits you or your family may be eligible to receive. Explore.VA.gov connects you to everything you need — benefits information, resources and application sites.

    Learn more during the “How to #ExploreVA Benefits” Facebook Live event on August 22 at 2 p.m. EDT. The event will focus on how Veterans can use Explore.VA.gov to learn about VA benefits. After the live video, Veterans can ask questions in the comments about the resources and tools on the Explore.VA.gov website.

  11. Can I see a copy of your DD214? Thank you, Can I see an ID? DL, SS card, Thank you, Please take this form over to line A, you will receive your new VA ID Card, Okay your new PCP is Dr, Shit for Brains, and thank you for your service.<——————WTF is so hard abut that? I mean………………WTF………..is so damn hard about that??????

    • When any Veteran walks through the door you treat them immediately.

      Claims, SC, compensation, sex change, explosion proof body bag, they can work that shit out later.

      Deny a Veteran medical attention, make it a class-1 felony, that should end all this BS! Quicker than “lil” Cox, can find his micro penii.

  12. The VA is set up this way on purpose. Hire inept and rude people, create an unchecked and convoluted system to deter veterans from seeking the healthcare and benefits they are entitled to.

    • I blame affirmative action for the inept people that work at the VA. I remember from my college days were some people were able to graduate with a 1. average. I know that sound racist as hell, but I have some letters that were send to me that I could not for the life of me read even less so understand. Way to many of them have found their way in the VA organization and been promoted to the level of incompetence. The Peter principle is very much alive at the VA

      • I blame our government, who is to chicken to tell our service members that it rather make the pockets fat of contractors like Haliburton, than fulfill the promise to our service members that he/she would be taken care of.

    • OK final analysis they suck and will try too always suck. If one puts that much suck into qualifications, cheeks stuck to gums always.

  13. I’ve got a question.
    It’s come to my attention, there’s a “Volusia County Deputy Sheriff, who carries a weapon, and is “100% T & P service connected for (extreme) PTSD!”

    I was recently asked about this! And thought I’d ask on here, IF there’s a possibility of something going wrong with this senerio!
    I don’t know anymore details!

    • I don’t know, Crazy elf. John McCain is in a similar conundrum in that instead of carrying a firearm, he recklessly plays roulette with our gov’t. and taxpayer monies and ignores veterans, even within his own State where a major VA scandal broke-out…that’s WAY MORE dangerous in my honest opinion (but who am I?) than a veteran, whom I would likely be more apt to place my trust as far as life and limb, PTSD and Disability aside. McCain has a level of disability as well, before current issues. Now, McCain wielding both the law and a gun…entirely reckless.
      Hope that made some sort of sense.

      • Understand, I REALLY would LOVE to be able to show the level of respect that I perhaps should show towards Sen. McCain but…as long as he plays eyes wide shut on the VA and veterans and the very VA mess in his own State of AZ…I can only show seething venomous disrespect where it’s most deserved.

        McCain is absolutely no different than *most* of the Big Pig VSO’s. Both are sure to always take advantage of photo-ops while using Vets as props but other than that–all closed-door, backroom meetings with sole purpose of self-preservation.

    • That’s a tough one Crazy elf.

      I have seen documentaries on Veterans with extreme PTSD, with many tours in Iraq, and Afghanistan. They “seem” to be handling it well, although very edgy, and had to check themselves more than once, reaching for their conceal carry.
      Scary situation they find themselves in at times. I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes.

      You know the public, and lawyers, will have a field day, should ANYTHING happen, and this Veteran uses deadly force, even if it’s ruled as justified. God help him/her, if the asswipe they shot is black. Ferguson times ten, specially with all the anti-cop crap, going on these days.

      Would be a tough enough deal, without PTSD. Would be great if he/she, could get a better paying job doing anything else.

      Before anyone makes any snive remarks, because I mentioned race. Go fuck yourself, you know damn well I am right, and you have absolutely no proof to the contrary. Although we can see plenty of proof in support of.

      • They all shut their eyes even after the bragging of fixing really nothing. You have to wonder money involved, on a single payer system which turns out to be a multi payout system to the dirty. And fuck the vets even though we tell public it’s for them. Bullshit more

  14. Ben’s article highlights a systemic problem at va hospitals, local facilities failing to comply with national directives. You can pick just about any clinical or non-clinical program and there will be non-compliance in some form or fashion. I’d like to think these non-compliance issues are unintentional but the frequency of these reports is truly disturbing. Until the va recommits itself to the mission statement, us veterans are subject the va’s errors and omissions, often with no recourse.

  15. Everytime I read this blog I get angrier and more depressed. But I keep reading because it is a cross between watching a train wreck, (and I’m in it) and finding those who are just as mal-treated and pissed off as I am. The last week after not believing the VA dermatologists anymore I went to a non-VA derm. Instead of the one cancer on my face they said I had, there were four plus one on my breast. This is after a year ago them telling me it was psoriasis and giving me a cream. Now it is a big open bleeding sore. I will have at least a two inch scar on my face which could have been avoided. Maybe that is a handsome rugged look on a man but not on a woman. But no one would wish to have a scar on their face, especially over bullshit. The other three spots on my face were also dismissed by the VA as psoriasis. So what, next year I can have three more two inch scars on my face? Why?

    • @D Abernathy: D, there is no excuse for what happened with you. I am glad you went to a real doctor. The VA needs to be sued for malpractice, for their incompetent misdiagnosis.

      You will always look good to us. @}–“-,—‘—-

      • Check you think if I go to outside doctor they will take care of my dick for wackin too much

    • @D Abernathy, scars can heal and you can get cosmetic work done. You are beautiful inside no surgery can fix that on the soul. God Bless you. I pray things go well for you.

      • Hey then again you could could be fucked for life with hair lip. U ought to beat shit out of scanky for pulling pranky on you. And be careful using VA employees restroom so many have caught the crabs. If u have too slam the seat hard cuz crabs can jump up to 6 ft. Be careful

    • I can’t get out of my residence to go to the VA, they definitely lost my trust, and I told this new VA Advocate, that I’m in fear of my life because of the VA’s improper medical care, and slow to act in helping me when I called out to them for over 14 months. Who paid for these damages that I’ve been inflicted with? Me.

      Unless the VA Staph is directly confronted with their fucking negligence or malpractice, they’ll never change, and will admit to nothing. Even when it was the VA that caused it. I hear you Dennis. Those Rat Bastards. – – – Nutter.

  16. ~Gurgle~
    Rotten cabbage eruption from an indifferent swamp beast impersonating someone or group posing to assist veterans while sucking the teats of the VA? Thought so.
    ~Gurgle~

    • @G – – – So G since you’re a poor Demo that is a sodomite, you’re saying that you will take care of the poor and hungry. Thank you for your service. – – – Nutter.

  17. I feel some comments might be on its way for Gee Gee. Wait for it. Oh and Gee Gee, screw you too. Your the hate monger. I’ve made no direct comments towards you. And let me tell you this bitch, your kind has a damn proven track record of redefining what something means. And the definition of hate is one of them. So please, go stand outside and melt, snowflake. – – – Nutter.

  18. This is vey strange. I posted a comment responding to Crazy elf’s question about the Sheriff. It was posted, then when I refreshed the page, the post was gone. Are we being monitored by the Russians, diehard VSO’s, or dedicated Veterans of the VA? They don’t want to interrupt those bonuses. – – – Nutter.

    • I don’t know I’m worried about backlash from vet giving up my spot for medical care. What if he comes back says my dick is falling off or they took my colon teeth and nipples. I can’t suck or be sucked. Fucker might try to kill me instead of them.

  19. And HRC, would’ve had us in a battle with Russia. Then all those troops would be wounded, maimed, and killed. The added responsibilities would be on the VA, and they WOULD NOT be able to handle the influx. Why? Well, imo, the VA can’t handle their responsibility that they have now. Although, I don’t agree with everything about POTUS (fact: because HRC lost due to a badly managed campaign), and I think your statement is extreme and taken way out of context (my opinion). – – – Nutter.

    • @G – – – So what do we have here. A fucking libtroll coming on and telling us to denounce Trump. Well Mr. Not Knowing It All – I never voted in the last Presidential Election. And, fuck you, and shove your own hate up your deep but narrow ass. Snowflake. Fuck you. Don’t have time for your swinging left attitudinals. – – – Nutter.

  20. After rereading the IG report, I noticed not once was the word Veteran used. I know the OIG investigates Veterans, so why not one mention of the extent of the delays, losses of many body parts, and Veterans deaths? Perhaps someone could begin to understand the significance of their crimes. Some of our children, grandchildren, and family and friends are dying now or tomorrow because Shithead just doesn’t give a damn about Veterans. And, @G, you have no clue as to what you are saying.

  21. Warning to you fucking trolls. There are many on Ben’s blog, that their sniffer is tweaked up like a good K9 Scent Tracking Dog. I’m not one to quickly detect, but I do train dogs to work their sniffer organ, and to be able to detect ANYTHING that their noses can smell. Its easy peasy for my to gain the trust of a K9, then to use their K9 strengths to accomplish tasks that I need help in. Make sense? If not, sorry, I can’t help you. – – – Nutter.

  22. Saw a flyer at my local clinic yesterday that read, Free wellness checks & vaccinations for veterans pets. Problem is the free ‘pet clinic’ is 55.7 miles away in Livermore CA.

  23. @G, other than Trump, the Veterans issues that you and I read about not this site are real. No President has been much help. I have a different view of Trump, but our issues with the VA, veteran suicides, waiting for decades for compensation. Because, you may, and right now I doubt it, have knowledge one, or some of us need. @G, who you wanna be?

  24. I really have a problem with medications, how can anyone treat anyone by percentages? Oh we can’t fill prescriptions because we went over 36% and we can’t give any opioids at 37%. Here’s Motrin and a rope to chew on.
    I’ve been fighting the Denver VA for 3 years. They tell me nothing is wrong with my knee, hips and back, even though I’m SC for them. So because fighting with them because they are insane! They are trying to say I have a personality disorder, never once been brought up anywhere. I finally get all my X-rays together, along with MRIs and new X-rays. The sent me to a pain management doctor and was all set to take my fentanyl away because I wasn’t hurt. The whole story is pitiful and unbelievable. Anyway they finally reviewed thing in front of me and did a physical exam, first done at Denver. All they ever done is read radiology reports and treat accordingly whether correct or not.
    So I went from nothing wrong, to having 4 discs in neck with spurs and stenosis, t5 pinched nerve, 6 discs in lower back that collapsed on left side, bone spurs in both hips, arthritis both hips, torn labrums both hips, bursitis both hips, acl reconstructed left knee with torn meniscus, arthritis both knees, torn meniscus right knee, fractured left ankle repaired with fibula and tibia fused, arthritis both ankles, arthritis both great toes and my mental health crap.
    So the look on doctors face was enough, pain meds will stay the as long as VA regs don’t change and will start the treatment plan I had in CT. The doctor I almost choked 4 weeks before actually put in my notes nothing wrong and copy and pasted the wrong radiology notes for proof of his assessment.
    Fucking crazy, I hate to scream at people. There’s nothing wrong with my joints and I’m screaming, never mind examining me! Look at the scars for surgeries! Since the VA couldn’t perform surgeries or not near a VA and were done by Fee Basis and not in the computer? Nothing exists!! It states as problem list in my medical notes all these problems and fail to read and listen. I just have a personality disorder, now the truth and not one sorry just a fucking nightmare and I’m lucky I didn’t commit suicide.
    I had a C&P exam and the examiner states how in the hell they have me rated as low risk for suicide when I have multiple attempts and all this crap going on.
    My life has been hell, for no reason other than lazy, ignorant people. The VA in CT was pretty good, but still had problems. Denver needs to be closed, knocked down with everyone in it. They have a volunteer that plays the harp as you come in. Not one person realizes angels playing harps are at the gates of heaven. So every time I walk in, I associate the place with death. No idea if any of this is readable, but all part of the hell im in.

    • @Mike: Mike, please do not try to end your life again. Make it your life mission to be a thorn in the side of the VA. Start by suing your PCP, and the VA, for the misdiagnosis, and pain this quack has caused you all these years. Plenty of lawyers specialize in VA malpractice. You are NOT expendable.

      • Lawyers? First need to get permission to sue. So I go through stress and attitudes for a couple bucks years from now? Not worth it. I told them, as soon as the pain is not manageable? I’m gone. They think I’m crazy! Let one of them live with pain every second of their life. Shit ain’t worth it. Before fentanyl, OxyContin made me angry, very angry. Fentanyl saved my life. Now want me to go through withdrawals and start taking methadone? Fentanyl works, but since playing a game with lives with percentages? Were going to make me, not even knowing if it will be a good pain reliever. When find out doesn’t work? I will already left this world. The VA is insane. I could write for 3 days straight here of shit done to me. You have to get lucky and run across someone who finally cares. That doesn’t include mental health which is a nightmare everywhere. All you need is a degree, no questions asked. Craziness

      • @Mike: Mike, believe it or not everyone on this blog cares, and you should do just that, write it out for all to see.
        We all do exactly that, Your amongst friends here.

        Yes you can sue and you don’t even need the VAs’ permission, file an sf-95 and don’t forget to add your wife as she has suffered as well, if your married that is, then put in your dollar amount for damages, they say screw you and that is all the permission you need to sue them.

        Why let them get in your head? Turn it around and make it your life’s work to be in theirs.

      • @Mike, there is a lot of Veterans been were you are at and some are presently suffer as you do now. Please let us support you and help you if you let us. They are a lot who suffer in chronic pain and it is not much of a life. It can get better, the body can heal itself. I have seen miracles in people lives and i will be praying for you.

    • @Mike, so sorry you are in severe physical pain and severely disabled. We know how much a battle it is sometimes to get help from the va and to suffer from their lack of action to put things in motion. Keep trying to get the help you need and the pain relief you need. If they don’t want to help you have them choice you out to manage your pain. God speed.

    • All they ever done is read radiology reports and treat accordingly whether correct or not…..SAD BUT TRUE

    • @Mike – – – Please carefully read my post with no offense to you. I only want to help, like the others that are commenting. Mike, I want to help you scold, and to embarrass the VA into closely monitoring your failing and deteriorating health. I write this because I’m basically the same situation. And, after over 5 years of complaining, I finally made some adjustments to deal with the VA. I don’t know the final outcome of this, and I don’t know when or if the VA will get into a freaking mood that will again, jeopardize my health.

      Mike, let be straight up about this and to lay it on the table. Based on your content, you haven’t even put a dent in stinging the VA on the ass. I know how you feel, I’ve been there, but now I grabbed ahold of a nice thick and fleshy VA buttock, and I’ve been purposely stinging the fuck out of them, in order to wake their incompetent asses up. At this moment, I’m in a hospital bed located in my living room. Not able to get out. I wasn’t like this when I first walked into the VA to obtain medical care. So this is why I’m concentrating and implementing strategies to possibly embarrass the shit out of the VA. Yes, I’m honestly being a thorn of a hornet in VA’s ass? So Mike, it took a lot of time to write my response, and please carefully review.

      1) If you haven’t already, start a VA Medical Treatment Log. Write all contacts with any VA Staph. You’ll need this to help keep things in order, so that; you’ll be able to remember easier, and to be able to have other understand since you created a timeline (your notes condensed).

      2) What ever areas of your health, do what you can do to help your life and health become better. Foods, supplements, nootropics, MMJ (Medical Marijuana). If you know, and can prove that the VA has failed, then Brother, treat your own self. If you use MMJ and it helps you, continue to use the MMJ, isolates, waxes, other forms, and also CBD oil. With CBD, you don’t need a MMJ Medical Card.

      I’m not only talking about pain relief, I’m talking about constipation issues, and other things that has been caused from taking Opiates.

      3) The VA extremes hates negative publicity. You’re going to need to stand up for this one. And, it will really stir things up in the halls of your local VA’s Medical Center. Ready, well you will need to tell the VA that you KNOW and BELIEVE that they have been treating you negligently, your condition has become worsened, your PTSD is out of control (PTSD was never like this before), and that you know that your life is in danger, due to your failing health from all of the contradictions, lies, manipulation, and bullshit that the VA has been putting you through.

      In other words, I want to encourage you to get in the VA’s face, with reason that is. That’s why you’ll need to create a timeline that reflects you medical care from the VA. And, if you haven’t kept a timeline, then start one right after you read my post. This tool is very important, and it will help you to keep everything in perspective.

      4) Start gathering yourself a support team. Tell those you trust and who care about you, what is going on. Then directly ask them to help you with emotional support. If they can help you with finances for you to get vitamins, food stuffs, or other so called alternative help for your health, this type of health will be a plus to maintain what health you do have (no more slipping into the abyss).

      When you share with your supporters about what you’re going through, make sure that you directly share with them, that this has you on edge, and that you really need them to stand by you. Get them to say that they’ll be on your side. Why?

      Don’t assume anything. Some individuals are fucking narcissistic opportunists who NEVER say that they are sorry (because their shit DON’T stink, and they NEVER do anything wrong). Plus, these types of ass wipes, will take advantage of you because your down and sort of out, and that your really concerned about your life.

      Mike, for anyone to really give a correct and right on assessment, they need to see you face to face, to be able to evaluate you, and to observe you while trying to perform certain medical diagnosis tasks, so that the Medical Professional can make a half-way decent Medical Report about you.

      So please don’t entertain those who make their ignorant comments. It is healthy to eliminate these types these types of people out of your life. Especially if they show no signs of changing, or they don’t want to change. Their whole objective will be to keep you down, try to beat you up with their off-the-wall non-professional psychological commentary, and inform you that it is because of you, that things aren’t changing. They get offended and tired fast, and can’t truly hang in there with you, as a human being or so-called fucking friend.

      These types of people truly don’t understand, but they’ll brag by saying that they do understand, give you a sermon, then label you with false tags, and leave you to solve your issues all by yourself. Enough about the fail out of those who can’t hang with you until you see some different results.

      As you know, these types of people are all over the place. And, they may even by family members. You need people that is willing to back you up. In the good times and the bad, with no time limitations set on you, until you’re able to show positive signs of recovering that relate to your current medical condition.

      5) He’s a method that will hopefully add to your Personal Support Staff. If you’re diagnosed as being disabled no matter what age, each State usually has program that is designated to help those with their health care, issues and problems, and, this is important, they can be you Patient Advocate. You’ll need to find a State Health Care Ombudsman to hopefully locate a State Patient Advocate that helps those with disabilities. You may want to start looking under your State’s Aging and Disability Services that are available.

      Your goal is to find an Advocate that you can tell about your problems in receiving medical care from the VA. Mike, focus on that you don’t trust the VA anymore, that you believe and know that your health and life is in danger. Plus, inform them of the PTSD, and that you don’t want ANY VA Staph to touch you. These are trigger points that tells the Advocate that you need help.

      Mike, I realize that this shit can be frustrating because of repeating yourself all the time, people forgetting what you shared with them, questioning the VA’s Medical Practice and Modalities that they are treating you with per you all over the human map medical diagnoses. You want to really sweet talk the State Advocate or Ombudsman. You REALLY need someone like this on your side. Why? Because they will now become your over seer, your mouthpiece, your battler against the VA, and by having a non-VA Representative in your support group, this will reduce your stress tremendously. You’ll feel this when you get a State Advocate on your side. I felt it when I got mine.

      6) Find a VA Medical Malpractice Attorney (use this as a search phrase in Google to find one). Now, since it seems that your medical condition has been one that has accumulated over time (important), you’ll need to share this with the attorney’s. But first, you must complete the medical care timeline that I mentioned earlier. You will then be able to share the timeline with the attorney. Make sense? I know it does.

      I say this, because nowadays like many, malpractice attorneys are looking for the easiest cases to take on (botched surgeries, wrong medication taken for a long time or one that hurt you in some way). These attorneys are looking for easy things that are straightforward, where they don’t have to spend a lot of time in investigating. The timeline will help the attorney to see that over time, incompetent care, has worsened and deteriorated your health and well being.

      In conclusion, the VA is set up to deny, deny, until you die. Why do I say this? Because just by the amount of Veterans that the VA has turned down in their claims, and the influx of Veterans that use the VA, this Federal Agency wasn’t prepared in taking care of us Veterans who need help. Therefore, even if the VA accepted claims that were scientifically proven to be valid, this would totally bust the VA’s budget. But yet, they still pay out those bonuses to the AFGE VA Employees.

      But don’t let this discourage you. Keep on doing things that will help your cause. Don’t listen to others that have give you negative comments. Mike, I hope this helps some. Each Veteran is different. So that’s why it is good to look over suggestions individually. Use what you need, or make adjustments. Do things that will move you forward towards the goal of establishing a support group. Then lay out your plan of attack (sorry sounds negative but its reality), and create how you’re going to see your situation through for changes. Good luck. – – – Nutter.

      • I like the process you described. My daughter has been fighting the VA for a couple years. Appointment date mail would show up week to 10 days after the appointment date. Or they would give her 10+ appointments within one week all of those notifiers show up after the date. I have seen the letters and cards. She has a pissy job and can’t afford to loose it and she would if she made a few of the appointment.
        Talking to the patient advocate from the VA is of no use and none of the Representative give a shit.
        They put her of Prozac, have no idea why, but she has gained about 100lb since then.

      • touchavet, All doctors are free to prescribe any non-opiate drug to anyone[Mental Health Inc/Art Levine]
        If you haven’t watched it please find time & watch this documentary w/your daughter. It just may save her life.
        Psychiatry in the Military: The Hidden Enemy—Full Documentary
        “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHC2wH_iGYM&t=85s&list=WL&index=4”

      • was hard to watch. I could relate to it in so may ways. One of the vets I palled around with took 85 pills a day to prevent him from getting psychotic. I’m told he died of natural causes, but something tells me the 9mm he had was the reason.
        My daughter doubled her body weight since Prozac. She is 6 foot tall and very pretty, but the 300+lb she developed took her self-esteem and I worry about her

  25. Even if a Demo gets in office. Why? Oboomerang didn’t do anything for us either. Neither would HRC, they cover McCains ass. Go figure. Oh, and still, fuck you. You have a mellow way of trying to convert others to your pathetic social engineering practices. I’m not telling you to fucking change. Put up the dividing lines already. I’m fucking game for this. – – – Nutter.

  26. @Mike, I totally agree with Cj, but as you describe the VA and the harp, is downright dangerous to more than just you. To me, the harp has to go. You are right.

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  28. No there is no media market in the top 100 in the Midwest, know why? cause they are all liberal and nobody gives a shit about libtarded views. Go suck an egg.

    Here is some up to date info for you G-String “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-5fYFjrbs”

    • Piss off snowflake, go protest cops for shooting assholes that need to be shot. Go cry on evil Hllary’s sagging boobs. Go tell the mirror it’s all the white guys fault. Hell blame everyone except the real problem…. that would be………YOU. Poor little snowflake. whaaaa whaaaaa whaaaaaa, and you were a soldier at one time? How’s your boyfriend Jenner doing?

    • @cj – – – I’m laughing my damn ass off after your remark to G-string (good name for the cross over). – – – Nutter.

  29. @Mike – – – Your not the only one that is going through the VA’s shit. Your situation almost fits mine. I know how this makes you feel, but give a try to what I posted earlier. We’re concerned about you. – – – Nutter.

  30. Those with MMJ Medical Cards – – – Here is an out of state dispensary that will legally ship to you. Check it out. And, the prices are more reasonable than East Coast pricing. Ok Oregoners don’t rub it in. – – – Nutter.

    • You fucking troll, I was referring to weed. Fuck you prick. Get off the fucking board. Come see me, I’ll militia you in a way that you’ll suffer and scream. Organic chemistry will be of good use, as well as other militia type tactics. But first, I must read up on this. Its coming for you. And, it will be someone that knows you directly. Just waiting for the chance to fuck your ass up. I know that I’d be one of them. Ass hole, fuck you. – – – Nutter.

      • this could be one of the reasons why vets can’t get organized. They do not listen to each other and have little respect in the same way. We all have opinions, they are like fleas on a dogs ass, all of them worthless. But we need to respect each other and at the very least listen.

  31. That’s what the hell I’m doing. Some may have the resources to QUICKLY get out of the VA. Others are in another situation. We as Veterans should be getting the health and claim care from the VA, but we’re not. And this fucking Federal Agency needs to change. It is well over due. The VA’s behavior, based on my personal experience, “is at least despicable, and at worst, criminal.” (Taken from an RT program). – – – Nutter.

  32. The board is used for Disabled Veterans and the things that directly effect their health care and claims process. You’ve offered no help to others, but to only bring on distorted views from your fucking ignorance. No more time for your type. Fucking pudding brained little snowflake. Done with you. – – – Nutter.

  33. G…U are one unhappy troll…You need some harp therapy, can’t you feel the good vibes…U sound like a preacher gone mad.,LOL killary for PRISON

    • OLDMARINE, he needs some Orange therapy, poor little snowflake was never in the military, he is just a butthurt snowflake, can’t handle the white man in the white house. poor little bitchboy.

  34. ~ ~ ~ GURGLE ~ ~ ~ Make arrangements to meet with others from this board. Blanket party time for the G-Stringger. We’ll put you under light, watch you squirm and melt, then serve your bodily fluids as non-GMO Drink to Obamoo Boy, and crooked HRC and crew. – – – Nutter.

  35. Where u at so I can run u over, I can’t sleep might as well do something …
    I have to ask, does your night shift job stress you out …I can help u with that, free of charge….keep going the only thing your doing is making me laugh, Want a hit….

  36. G..U must be working more than one sight…Did you u get the natives riled up over there yet, U need to stay over here I’m not con-vinced your telling the truth yet, LOL

  37. Go fuck yourself snowflake, Trump for 8 and not a damn thing you or your snowflake buddies are going to do a damn thing about. AAAAAAAAAAAAaaahahahahhahaaaaaaaaa..

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    • Wow, what a hoot G is. The sad truth of it is that he, she, it, is an example of why we get the care (lousy), incompetence, intentional harm, being ignored, attacked by the VA cheerleader crowd, their AFGE, SEIU workers, the foreigners, affirmative action staff, activist lefties, and others, we do or must deal with. In or out of the VA really. With the VA being much worse due to it’s hiring practices and orders from the top to appease the various whiner groups out there. The politics or activism has no place in health care, especially in the government/union ran VA. But today’s society there is nothing sacred and sorely lacks morals, integrity and the rest of it all.

      Want some fun? Or more examples. Locally a bunch of ATIFA and lefty supporters gathered downtown complete with our lefty news media supporting the same, and them, with their leftist twist on things. Even before all the facts came out about the whole deal. And never mentioned the fact that kid that hit the Antifa female and killed her was being attacked by the lefties with ball bats. So what is anyone going to do? Sit there and take it or floor it and get away as fast as possible, or stop and get out then beat to death like has happened to other people in those circumstances.

      In the lefty Antifa supporting groups here were public school teachers, college professors, lawyers, clique families/groups, politicians, college kiddies, very young youth, medical students, Democrat party, MoveOn herd, the well known local socialist/communist party, PBS, well known local man-hating/Constitution haters/truth hating/historical revisionist Marx-feminist, plus noticed a couple of X VA professionals from years ago…. now working at the local colleges. Not much of a flip flop in working climates or working cultures (lefty herd group think/PC-ness before professionalism) I think. So we are to trust and believe in those who are being socially engineered from first grade on to those far far left colleges and public school systems? I am to trust one of them during a surgery with all the covering up going on? They seem bent on destroying us, our history like ISIS does over the world tearing down monuments and historical sites. Stopping others from speaking out or wanting thought control over us all, and more hate crime legislation to silence us all, and much more. Bruise one lying VA workers ego over being caught in their corrupt ways, deleting our files, or upset a Marx-feminist who openly claims they are “VA/college trained and total professionals” and we “should never question them”… is a very clear statement of just who and what we may be dealing with. Plus their families and cliques later on for some retaliation for daring to offend their highness’s with a mere question or objection. But that is how it rolls in the VA, in lefty Indiana, corrupt college towns ran by lefties totally, and the neocons. It’s all about control, power, politics, destroying our American culture, children’s minds, to the veterans.

      Both parties can be blamed but the commies, Marxist, and other assorted lying, destructive, hateful filth are coming out of the woodwork. Hopefully with more people, veterans, waking up to what is happening openly and behind the scenes. Health care or life is not what we might see, or shown, on TV. Or to me it isn’t and has not been, far from it.

      I enjoy lefty garbage like G showing themselves in public and trying to mentally masturbate us with large grit sand paper, and show what they are all about. Especially if they think Ruby Ridge or killing/murdering citizens and veterans at will, is somehow funny or good takes the friggin’ cake. Shows the politics, lying fake media, communist, real fascist, and college crowd in Indiana. Wasn’t going to post more on this but G got my goat and stepped over some lines with me.

      Lets try to have a great day today out there in hard lefty land. With much thanks to G for showing his low IQ and agendas.

  38. Hey G, I just talked to my buddy D.T. he said to send you over, he needs a B.J. and that your the best. He said he would really like one of those special BLM slop poppers, said you would know what he meant.
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    • I noticed the air bags did not deploy in the videos shown to us. I also saw the videos of the car getting its windows smashed out by the mob BEFORE he backed up. The Dodge Challenger has a host of problems that even after the Safety Recalls people are posting that the car is not repaired. It should require further study before the kid is condemned by mob rule.

      This is one of those “Smart Cars” so I’ll assume it can be hacked among other issues. I think this because at the same time of the accident that police helicopter went down. Could a hack have taken them both over? I don’t know. Believe nothing. You’ll find Smoke & Mirrors on the cars website. Look deeper into people who actually own this car & what they have to say about the faulty accelerator pedal sensor.

  39. We r not old enough to be parents here. At least psychologically. Ha ha just kidding. Look your not getting it VA could probably help fund health care for outside. Single payer system but multi payer system out, and to no account. It’s a racket and dems left it as repubiks did. Get the point time for next joke, while I put my prothtestuc dick back on.

  40. No one gives a fuck. And we put phony smiles also. Only pleasure is seeing the fire list updated. After that wait for new news scandals. Pathetic u know.

    • G……U kept the political bullshit going I voted for no one IMOP both sides are full of shit and u are stupid for falling for it just like many others…and have a great night with your hate you need to watch this video about belief, before u start raving like a idiot…take it from a tenth grade dropout nothing is as it seems..u might learn something…
      “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52blFw9oNBM”

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    • G you must be from Indiana. Activist, SJWs, communist/Democrats/socialist/Progs, etc,, foreigners who hate America, hate the the Constitution, hate the words Constitutional Republic with safe guards against mob rule or mass leftist rule, hate or think very little of white veterans especially, all should be vetted, know the English language and understand it plus local usages or peculiar means, take psych test, lie detectors tests, drug tests weekly, and more.

      Hey punk. Is this why only white veterans were in the groups when we were told about losing our pain meds? Told to be patient and understanding with scum lazy lefty activist trash? To ignore staff showing signs of burnout or end of day stress? You trash. Pity I live in a town full of your kind.

      Why anytime in a group in a waiting room when others walked away, whites alone, some VA tech or staff would always join in and mention things about having our folders flagged for being non-PC, or not showing enough respect to foreign staff, or telling us not to get upset when we see VA staff or MDs blow up, have their “burn out” episodes and telling us to get the hell out of the VA and out of his clinic, or question VA staff? But to report it to your counselor at the CBOC so it is never again found in any records about VA hatred. We aren’t or weren’t supposed to report any negatives or ask why so many at their desk were totally incompetent, lazy, or always running to the cafeteria leaving a long line waiting. Like every 15 minutes coming back with large drinks and hand fulls of goodies. Thanks to affirmative action.

      Or have staff come out and take off with any vets discussing long wait times, radiation or environmental issues and illnesses. Odd how things work in some VA sites and states or far left college towns ruled and filled with leftist and communist.

      Not enough? How about VA staff telling us to vote Democrat and support Obama, to vote for Hillary for better VA care and treatment for all vets? Then when all cards are being played we can’t come forth to expose all the shit and corruption and real racial hatred from the activist at the VA who are all mainly from the far left of things?

      You all are as bad as the unions I left in passed work times with unions and their reps telling us, or demanding, we vote for their people, the far left and communist, for some office or position in union affairs. Also being so corrupt to know just how we voted, and why we could not get jobs in the city or county merely for the votes we did cast. I suppose you think that’s great.

      All those freaks even thinking telling us what we were told comes from the top, that included to vote Democrat for change, probably like you scum, should be fired on the spot. And all those who by dictate told them from the top to spread their demands to us. I think it all shows what we deal with in America today and it isn’t any better in some VA or some CBOC localted in a corrupt college town where all the cliques, activist, fraternal order families, and friends end up working at. And having the ability to spread information around town about us just to do some kind of harm or show their powers full circle. Thanks G for being a fine example of a VA and Democrat, corruption loving, cheer-leader.

  41. @y’all, I could tell that G has a love/hate relationship with our President. I’m proud of many of y’all for giving him the space to say what was on his/her little mind. He said nothing about the VA, hope he gets some sleep. He stayed on more than 8hrs. Personally, I will not give G any more time. By G, I’ll miss you….

  42. G you must be from Indiana. Activist, SJWs, communist/Democrats/socialist/Progs, etc,, foreigners who hate America, hate the the Constitution, hate the words Constitutional Republic with safe guards against mob rule or mass leftist rule, hate or think very little of especially white veterans, all you should be vetted, linked to any activist groups or secret orders be known and posted of, know the English language and understand it plus local usages or peculiar means, take psych test, lie detectors tests, drug tests weekly if not daily, and more.

    Hey punk. Is this why only white veterans were in the groups when we were told about losing our pain meds? Told to be patient and understanding with scum lazy lefty activist trash? To ignore staff showing signs of burnout or end of day stress? You trash. Pity I live in a town full of your kind.

    Why anytime in a group in a waiting room when others walked away, whites alone, some VA tech or staff would always join in and mention things about having our folders flagged for being non-PC, or not showing enough respect to foreign staff, or telling us not to get upset when we see VA staff or MDs blow up, have their “burn out” episodes and telling us to get the hell out of the VA and out of his clinic, or question VA staff? But to report it to your counselor at the CBOC so it is never again found in any records about VA hatred. We aren’t or weren’t supposed to report any negatives or ask why so many at their desk were totally incompetent, lazy, or always running to the cafeteria leaving a long line waiting. Like every 15 minutes coming back with large drinks and hand fulls of goodies. Thanks to affirmative action and work visas.

    Or have staff come out and take off with any vets discussing long wait times, radiation or environmental issues and illnesses. Odd how things work in some VA sites and states or far left college towns ruled and filled with leftist and communist. Where we are censored at every turn and avenue while trying to get help or attention to some major problems.

    Not enough? How about VA staff telling us to vote Democrat and support Obama, to vote for Hillary for better VA care and treatment for all vets? Then when all cards are being played we can’t come forth to expose all the shit and corruption and real racial hatred from the activist at the VA who are all mainly from the far left of things and from far leftist medial colleges or high schools even? Or the MoveOn members and etc.

    You all are as bad as the unions I left in passed work times with unions and their reps telling us, or demanding, we vote for their people, the far left and card carrying communist, for some office or position in union affairs. Also being so corrupt to know just how we voted, and why we could not get jobs in the city or county merely for the votes we did cast. I suppose you think that’s great.

    All those freaks even thinking telling us what we were told comes from the top, that included to vote Democrat for change, probably like you scum, should be fired on the spot. And all those who by dictate told them from the top to spread their demands to us. I think it all shows what we deal with in America today and it isn’t any better in some VA or some CBOC localted in a corrupt college town where all the cliques, activist, fraternal order families, and friends end up working at. And having the ability to spread information around town about us just to do some kind of harm or show their powers full circle. Thanks G for being a fine example of a VA and Democrat, corruption loving, cheer-leader.

    • T…”https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2017/08/17/charlottesville-and-the-march-of-the-devil-american-psyops”

  43. just out VA employee removed ? Scopes used for different procedures were not properly cleaned, used on many veterans, could spread disease. Report sent to Obama, IG no know patients effected, no laws were broken.

    They got ride of the employee, but no law was broken, no veterans have been identified as being effected. Why get ride of the employee if no law was broken. Why do an investigation, write to the president and spew evidence and then comment, No laws were broken and not veterans were identified of getting sick.

    Also they had nurses admit that they were using injection pens over and over on veterans to give shots, These pens were to be used one time only. No veterans were identified of adverse reactions.

    The nurses admitting to using these Pens, committed a criminal act in my opinion and should be held accountable, arrested and fired and all veterans given shots by these nurses notified.

    Shulkin”s response to veterans committing suicide and then stating they did it because they Knew the VA would take care of them ! That is just crazy talk, we all know that the veterans were doing this to bring attention to the LACK of care.

    Call it what it is, NEGLECT ! Pure and simple. Don’t give a shit attitude by VA employee’s !

    Tell the employee’s they did a horrible job ! VA employee’s response ! Tap their Chest and say MY BAD, End of story.

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