Veterans Not Better Off Under Obama Says Majority Surveyed



Eighty percent of veterans surveyed about whether we are better off because of President Obama’s policies responded “no”.

With the inauguration and recent shake-up at the Department of Veterans Affairs, it seemed like good timing to post the responses to the survey we ran here two days ago.

Many of the veterans on both sides provided thoughtful responses worth highlighting here. Rather than edit out what individuals wrote, I decided to provide the raw answers for both sides unedited.

These are posted first with those who believe they are better off followed by those who believe veterans are not better off.

Personally, there is no question veterans were benefited in some ways. More veterans get benefits for Agent Orange from the Vietnam War 40 years ago. Veterans dying from Camp Lejeune toxic exposure will finally get compensation as last Friday after waiting 30-60 years.

Nice, those veterans still alive will get some benefits and recognition for their plight due to military failures to protect troops from toxic exposures. Gulf War veterans are still fighting for greater recognition of toxic exposures from 25 years ago.

However, despite some improvements, Obama maintained the status quo without addressing, head on, the wait time scandal that killed many veterans due to fraud. Secretary Robert McDonald told Congress he fired thousands of employees while the real number was 4. The union was never reformed. The backlog still exists for disability claims.

Despite the positive momentum on some issues, Obama’s legacy as it relates to veterans should be tarnished for not addressing ongoing fraud and related criminality that killed and continues to harm veterans nationwide.

Veterans Who Believe Obama Made Them Better Off

In my area (Birmingham, AL) the VA seems to be doing a better job of reducing the number of homeless vets. Also, I personally believe that the VA hospital here is doing a great job. Thanks
Many of my claims were granted, also received a great deal of assistance from vocational rehabilitation.
I believe that the last eight years the Obama administration tried to correct problems that have been identified in the VA were Republicans in congress are always trying to eliminate essential veteran’s benefits.
Appointed Shinseki as Sec. of VA. who then expanded AO presumptives.
increased speed of benefit processing for one, quite a feat given the VA – sadly bias and inconsistent standards still exists.
Developed the choice program
better options
I hate to put yes of all the bureaucracy still in existence. I have an appeal in that is over 4 years old now. Even though I am not happy and bitter about many things, the President has made some really good improvements!
Collectively and personally outcomes from the VBA although flawed are marginally improved, outcomes from the VHA are being subjected to intensive scrutiny and marginally improved too.
His leadership and compassion
He brought soldiers home
The fixes put in place are superficial, at best.     I speak only for the VBA (not VHA).   VBMS has been in place now for more than four years. With nearly everything that we do, there is more administrative burden and time-consuming tasks and a lot of duplicate work.
Scaling back of wars started under Bush regime.
He finally appointed a director who wasn’t a political hack.
Well it didn’t make things any worse nd you have only two options available. We will see with the Don.
Reduced the claims backlogs.
Sec. McDonald was a good pick and he’s worked on the transformation of VA and helping it move into this century.
Initial claims reduced dramatically and cleared
Started reforming the good old boy network and began getting the needed manpower and funding to handle the Republican wars
Women’s health care has dramatically improved for me both in terms of care and dedicated women’s facilities.
As a former worker within the VA beauracracy, I can unequivocally state that PBO’s policy changes led to a reduction in the Vietnam veterans backlog in claims.
The automation improvements have made direct contacts with staff less neccessary.
As a veteran I saw my medical care in the San Juan VA MC, PR be a top notch care in every aspect and with the new civilian care program. Overall awesome!
Because I am a veteran and I was successfully “awarded” a PTSD disability rating.
The automation improvements have made direct contacts with staff less neccessary.
Personal experiences with VA from 1995-present: Quicker response & more personal., but staff retention for long-term care remains a problem in some places.
The wait time for appointments are less.
The increase was lacking
Yes – almost no. I’m relatively new to the VA Healthcare system. However, I discern an attempt of improvement.   It’s big-ass boat, and it turns very slowly. However well Veterans Choice was intended, it still failed due to implementation by the same Beltway-Centric system.
Camp LeJeune water contamination benefits (some of them) were finally approved ; on his way out of office. Other than that, I would have answered NO. It only took the VA 28 years to finally do something for us Marines. How many more former service members will die before they take care of us?
It took me 40 years to get the ball rolling with the VA, especially, since I had put in a claim in 1975, after my attempted murder on me in 1974.

I received my PTSD in 2010, what a shame.   Remember, back then in the 70’s, they cared even less for veterans, many were just thrown in the streets, SAD!

The wait time for my “Service Connected” hearing aides dropped from 24 months to six. I spent more than $7.000 for hearing aids from 1968 when I was awarded a 10% disability. At that time I was told I was only entitled to1 pair in my lifetime and should wait for my hearing to worsen.
TBI reevaluations
Post 9/11 GI Bill 2.0 helped me go to Law School, and VocRehab helped me finish Law School. We are better off, but things could have been better on the whole.
He reopened the VA to all Veterans and that resulted in me and the Veterans I now assist with initiating claims in navigating both the VHA and BVA.
Increased funding
I have no problem with the VA. And to straighten out so large an organization will take a long time.
HE attempted to put an end to the endless combat in Afghanistan and Iraq and therefore created less veterans with problems that the VA will ignore
I was Null. Democrats fighting a union…tough situation. GET A NEW UNION.
I can see it by the lower back log percent
While I said yes (for me), the items are minimal often unbalanced negatively–shortened the adjudication line but increased denials and suicides–Choice but enriched a couple fee based insurance companies and their executives, etc. (better for vets but worse for taxpayers).
Obama inherited the problems at the VA and did the best he could to fix them during his time in the White House.


Veterans Who Believe Obama Did Not Make Them Better Off

It still takes 90 to see my provider.
Your kidding me,what did he do for us other than the choice card program. Which has backwards policies. Eventually you get to a Dr. Non VA. Let’s fix what we got first.
We are not
Corruption has become endemic with the Obama administration and the veterans suffered
Managers and unions took over the Department and the veteran out the door!
Absolutely nothing has changed, the fed unions run everything.
He ignored requests to help veterans obtain their basic benefits.
Fire the upper management team and bring back Allison Hickey
Public scrutiny forced some minor change.
I’m an African American who voted for Obama for both terms, however, unless the VA treats our veterans with dignity and better medical care by draining the swamps at the VA, our American society is doomed!
Still manipulating records

Still cant get appointments under 30 day. Been trying since August 2016 to get outside doctor for my feet and prosthetic.

He hired the wrong director
The va system was broken when he started, and the va system is broken when he ended.
He is a muslim.
Veterans continue to wait months for medical treatment and years for disability compensation.
In the last two years, I have seen positive changes at the VA. It is the result of all the negative stories that have come out in the press against them. It had NOTHING to do with any policies that the Obama administration had in place at the time.
It is still as difficult to get into and through the system.
I continue to see corruption and delays that demonstrates that what the President said was for show and was not willing to apply the change needed.
I have been on appeals for 12 years and am one of the 24,000 caught up in the TBI scandal and am 90% disabled.
Overall, the answer is no. Money was allocated to HUD/VASH, hiring more mental health workers, and claims were digitally fast-tracked. More money does not fix the problem(s).
Since 2014, WLA VA, California I’ve watched the personnel in Claims and Pension change-out. (Shifting the shit) Long Beach, CA VA, C&P denied my CO & VA Phychiatric claim of PTSD. Fucking Joke! Car Salesman!
The Va is for the VA only, The Veterans don’t matter
The suicide rate of veterans did not decrease nor did homelessness under his presidency. The Dept. of Veterans Affairs should have fired all senior management and non-performing staff and eliminate all union members.
I can’t explain why in one sentence or even a paragraph.
Lack of transparency in dealing with unlawful/ethical employee treatment of veterans as well as unresponsive leadership
The status quo of poor, overpriced service was allowed to continue; poor leadership had time to shift around and find protection for their jobs and salaries. There were many failures, the scandals uncovered can stand alone as testimony that Obama is a loser who cared about Vets for press clippings
Mr. Obama can only do so much. Congress holds the purse strings and they are not invested in funding or helping vets.
The was no legitimate push from the Administration to resolve anything – just words. The only real push seemed to come from Congress in getting the Veterans Choice Program started. Unfortunately, the resources weren’t there to match
Our vets are not being cared for and should get priority treatment….Including being able to seek medical care(physical, emotional and psychological) anywhere and have the govt pay for it.   They have earned it more than anyone else has in this country!
he loves the hell out of muslim terrorists and snowflakes, and hates veterans.
communists dont like veterans!
since when did politations care about veterans?
he allows quack Drs like linda borgtuno and ricardo pena to still work there and lets be honest,the politations want us dead so they dont have to spend money on us,but theyll throw money at people that have never done anything for this country!
15 years in the system; Agent Orange Prostate Cancer, VA has fought me every step of the way, no improvement in last 8 years.
Either Obama has done no good to the system or I see this due to the fact that I keep having more things happen mostly all related to my Vietnam service & heavy Agent Orange exposure while i was a “Ground Pounder” with the 82nd Airborne.
Military retired and especially those disabled are no better off now than before.
Obama stole money earmarked for veterans’ care and used it to take care of “Syrian refugees” that are un-vetted, impossible to vet, and almost universally subscribe to a political ideology that demands non-moslems convert, be enslaved or killed.
Because both my husband and myself have been proposed to lose some of our previous SC and we have both been waiting more than a year. My husbands physical for a heart condition was done by a   psychiatrist
Because both my husband and myself have been proposed to lose some of our previous SC and we have both been waiting more than a year. My husbands physical for a heart condition was done by a psychiatrist
I went to college on for two years, then I got a new vocational rehab counselor she disqualified me from Voc rehab and told me if I didn’t get a re-evaluation by a va doctor I couldn’t continue to pursuit my education.
Gaps in accountability, inconsistency and/or outright ignorance in adjudicating compensation claims, a growing backlog despite significantly more staffing, longer waiting times from claim to adjudication, and an increasing gap in veterans benefits being administered to veterans.
He continued to allow the corrupt activities especially among directorship of the VA’s and many of these Criminal   directors have gone unpunished such as Sharon Helman is not tried to clean up the VA he’s just made ingenuous lip service
no accountability of leaders in va or firing any leaders in va for doing wrong actions or not changing va.   entrenchments of bigness
Choice is a joke but worse, because of paperwork, my doctors are limited to 10 min appointments.
Nothing changed for the good at our VA.
Created division among veterans pre-911/post-911 in regards to caregiver program and 3 years after removed post-911 Ill veterans after caregiver program implemented.
No noticeable change in policies. Veterans may get their first mental health appointments sooner but thereafter it could take 6-7 weeks for follow up appointments. In the civilian community one can make an appointment in two weeks with a psychiatrist.
The system is still broke! The VA still has employees that work with a broken system on a daily basis that are to afraid to say anything out of fear that they will not be a protected whistle blower. The rural veteran is still being ignored with no fix even in sight. The choice system is broken…
It’s a great question and straight to the point.
The VA became remarkably worse under his administration.
I am worst off know then when I first went to the VA in 1978.
Poor quality C&P exams and poor quality diagnostics are caused by medical professionals that cannot do the job right because they have too many people that they must deal with, and I am a victim of that failure.
There are no change and Obama never held the top management to do things right. They even stop the va from enforcing the demand that Obama put into effect. Till the VA cleans house. I know my case the va never wanted my rate to get raised but the applet court got involved and them it jumped 40% to70
aiding illegal aliens, terrorist, transgender   was his concerns .
The core problem of the VA has always been accountability. And this is not as much of a VA problem as it is an Administration problem. Leadership starts at the top and no one has held the VA accountable for the crimes, yes crimes , they have committed.
Much worse bureaucratic hurdles, more corruption, and…….
The House Veterans Affairs Committee is in possession of emails that prove VA Dep Sec Sloan Gibson, the VA OIG (now retired), and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Nabor colluded to cover up the VAMC Phoenix waitlist scandal and the deaths of 293 veterans there.
Obama loathes the military and is only concerned with his legacy and Marxist agenda.
The VA employees lots of HACK doctors, also, it is there way or the highway cause there are never wrong(and thats a lie) also claims are denied at the drop of a hat. Dayton, ohio VA clinic is getting away with so much.
Decisions on pending cases take forever (mine 5 yrs) and the online web site (EBenefits) is worthless for finding up to date information concerning your submitted case i.e. whats happening!
I can’t get any help in medicine after 45 years any more of today do to his adding more problems of getting quality medicine instead of generic and lower cost medicine
Claims processing time has not decreased and there has been no improvement in health care.
vets station in Thailand are not getting the right help on their cancer claims from agent orange.
I am a victim
I’m still suffering from prostate cancer treatment SIDE EFFECTS associated with Hormonal Therapy/ZOLADEX, because it’s too easy for the VA to hide the harm done to veterans by their DRUGS & TREATMENT!!!
We did not know 8 years ago that the reason the REDpublicans were obstructing every possible improvement to any thing that Obama could make was nothing short of their desire for power had reached the point of willingness to destroy America to get it.   Now we know…
Lot of corruption and/or neglect in the higher levels of the VA Administration. The VA Medical Foster Care Homes providers are NOT given VA Veterans to fill their homes with 3 veterans in each home. This needs to be mandated from top down.

A Whistle Blower

Whistle Blower Protection Act.

Still the same problems in Benefits and Health side.
More veterans died under obama than in any other administration.
far too many claims are denied, the appeal process backlog is simply ridiculously long & the process can take up to 5 years or more. The VA clinics & Hospitals in my area have improved but still need a lot of work. The wait times are 40+ days, the knowledge of some of our VA clinc Doctors are substa
He has no respect for military.
Failure to prosecute administrators engaged in malfeasance. Problems with wait times swept under the carpet.
Fuck him
VA has gotten worse top tier admin needs to go
lim a veteran
Tricare went up, and deductibles, prescription deductibles and no cola pay raises 4 times and lame pay raises the other years. The above went up more then what the entire cola raises added together under Obama where.
Replace the VHA with Medicare-type insurance, real insurance…..
There is no consequence for VA employees or leadership when they fail in their mission, it’s not about serving vets but is instead about administrators keeping their jobs.
Absolutely nothing has changed in the base levels of care since 1993.
The disingenuous influence of non-Veteran, non-profit and for-profit special interests throughout the entire system, facilitated by the senior level DVA bureaucracy (the NAC funding trough being one example) under the guise of “public-private partnerships”.
He didnt fix wait times or the private practice.
Wounded warriors and soldiers are just props for him.
No accountability, PR spin on every issues instead of recognizing the problems and take action. He was a follower never showed any true leadership skills or ability.
It will take more than one administration to fix what has been for a long time.
Not much has changed.
Because the VA Administration continued to ‘REWARD’ themselves and did little to speed up services, correct past/present mistakes in VA Cases and pushed services to the outside medical world to look good but the delays still existed!
I believe that it was the scandals and whistle-blowers that forced the Govt. to make a few meaningful changes.
When it came to veterans he was all talk no action.
Employees of VA allowed to promote racial and partisan behavior as culture turned towards entitlements of the select, and punishment for the many. Lost too many friends during the last 8 years to drugs, alcohol, and suicides. All preventable with real sustainable treatments if not shamed for at VA.
Times are as bad as ever, it took from April 2016, to November 2016, to see my primary care Doc for the first time after moving here to Jacksonville, Florida!
He lacked the knowledge and leadership to help veterans the VA is as bad as it was 8 years ago
I’m still waiting 30 days just to see a regular doctor because Veterans Choice is actually a longer wait then that.
Has anything changed?
He ain’t done shit, Ben!!! U know it & I know it, so does the rest of the Veteran Community!!!
He did not care about veterans. Ben your blogs have done more than Obama.
He had a policy of not holding any VA employee accountable.
One thing is, the VSO’S have turned to supporting themselves and the Veterans and their families are more alone in this fight than I can remember.
Veteran care by employees at a record low at VA hospitals. I know I was a patient at Dallas CLC from 11/18/16 thru 1/09/17 and experienced the lack of respect for veterans medical needs!!!
Still have backlog
my husband has been part of the VA health care system since 2007. started out very bad then, not much better now in 2017.
The VA still does what it wants and ignores directives.
Refusal to pay ER bills putting vets in debt and allowing the VA to cripple me via ongoing poisoning.
O’Bama just hasn’t been forceful in holding the VA to accountability.
because none of the delay issues have been fixed nor is any noticeable progress/improvements been made. Veteran job programs are a joke with no real opportunity or assistance through existing programs.
The VA is in shambles and there is no fix in site, the Dem’s seem to not care at all about Veterans or active duty, continuously diminishing benefits and forgoing any financial support increases to alleviate the strain on military families both active and veteran.
No improvement in quality of medical services or in the quality of VA doctors and staff.
Scandals developed that were not resolved, and his attempts to fix problems often made them worse.
Because he knew veterans would not support him and only did things for groups that would support his agenda and vote for him and his cronies
The alternative, “Veterans Choice Program” is too complicated and “EXTREMELY” slow to get outside medical treatment approval…. “Veterans Suicide Rates” are not acceptable…..”Bad Actors” (employees) in the VA System are not being punished for misdeeds……Veteran Homelessness is just shameful..
They did not fix the Primary issue with the VA; a inept and criminal Administration and the Union.
Misguided priorities.
not really a term to think about , any American should use common sense and determine through Obama’s presidential actions, scandals and lies that he left veterans well beings to the personnel that enslave a system of false promises.
Finally McDonald helped Camp Lejeune victims
The current establishment, showed outwardly on camera to be concerned, but the reality, we got shoved in the corner and forgotten. Lets hope Trump has the entestinal fortitude to actually change the VA.
The current establishment, showed outwardly on camera to be concerned, but the reality, we got shoved in the corner and forgotten.
Obama ignored problems at va and the crimes at va continued to get worse.
Just for the simple fact that my brother’s medical care under the VA is nothing more than ongoing medical malpractice and just getting worse since he came back from Viet Nam.
The quality of care under Obama was much much worse then bush. I have been treated in multiple va facilities across the state of CA. Bakersfield is the only one I would give a sat rating to. They have very few specialists and most appointments are in LA or LB over 100 mile drive and pts are treated
Absolutely not! He had blinders on and denied that there were ongoing issues that were never addressed!
Besides the “Race division” he caused, he did the bare minimum in everything he did.
Just review the drafting committe you listed below!
Cause none of the many health issue’s that I’d suffer from still hasn’t been address for over forty five years or more now and my teeth are rotting in my mouth as I type….
For instance, if you write for VA help. They send it to the VA and they ignore it. No one follows up with you.
He’s A Muslim Here To “DESTROY” America !!!!
The list of press seeking DVA FOIA disclosure at the House VA Committee keeps getting longer; no access to VA info means no accountability at the grassroots level.
No interest in veterans with cursory attention after the Phoenix massacre.
The choice program is a joke
Barry’s mindset is pro Marxist-Muslim. Accordingly his priorities are not veteran oriented but attempt to implement future change toward his leftist agendas.
After 40 years of using the VA, I can tell you for certain, every aspect of my care has gone down in quality, cost’s have gone up substatially, and claims are denied by unqualified examiners.
We were seen but not took care of
I have been fighting with the va for benefit since 2014 and because of it there have been times that I have went days not being able to eat I can’t even afford my own place
Policies were more for Illegals than Americans!!!
Quality of care is still not good. Not enough well trained doctors.

I applied for additional disability and they lost my info. Can’t get anyone to respond to my claim.

Lots of talk and bluster. No real changes seen. I’m a service connected diabeti(x13 years) no glucose monitor or insulin pump.
PRES. Obama does not have good judgment (discernment) concerning veterans no insight.
I am 62 r old veteran with a 4 yr ptsd claim
The problem is still ongoing.
He did not provide treatments for brain-injured veterans — real healing of the underlying wound to the brain.
Policies are great but if there is little action to enforce them, they are not worth the paper they were written on.
Still in a mess, I was married over 8 months ago still no word on my wife’s (dependent) compensation…
Just in the area of economic opportunity alone, the Obama administration has repeatedly lied regarding employment numbers and “official” job growth – there are nearly 95 million Americans without work, and veterans have been hit by this bus extremely hard.
Still failed to change concurrent receipt laws for vets medically retired with less than 20 years of service.
My 30 year claim before the Court still pending, my 9 year old claim before the Board still pending!
no changes long waits
Just speaking for myself I was poison from a medication the VA put me on. They claim no responsibility. Only medication I took for an extended.period of time in my entire life. Destroyed kidney function down to 50% function on each side. Disputing things at this time
Benign neglectl
I have been fighting with the va for benefit since 2014 and because of it there have been times that I have went days not being able to eat I can’t even afford my own place
It’s hard to get proper medical care from the Marion va system. The doctors are aloud to treat veterans harshly.nothing is being done about it this has been going on for years and will not stop unless the system is redone
From my experience, here in Southern California, unemployment and homelessness of veterans have increased, while mentsl health of veterans were not taken seriously.
There is still no accountability to VA workers poor performance!
Made worst no increased and some disable veterans are not entittle to get mortgage loan unless perfect credit. Befits denied or holding some veterans for re-evaluation even though already declare disable100%.
The Obama Administration ignored and hunted whistleblowers throughout the country who reported wrong doing, this is not a funding issue as much as it is a bad management issue throught the VA! Bye Felicia!
Veterans are not fully aware of their benefit for which they qualify
There was no fundamental change at the VA; only updates around the margins. Same issues, different year.
This really got of hand,,
promise, promise, deny, deny and forget !
Appointments are still hard to get and some types of special treatments are still almost impossible to get.
still waiting from 2009 for disability approval?
still waiting from 2009 for disability approval?
because obomber works for the invaders of America who want to eliminate as many true americans as possible, therefore he has no incentive to improve vets care; indeed, he is just a puppet, dancing as his israeli masters say to dance.
All combat era veteran’s should be treated the same benefits.

Not specialized on one era only. Discriminating the older vets in services

My NOD has been sitting there for 6 months.
I have had nothing but problems trying to get care for both my service-connected and non-service connected medical conditions.
There is still a shortage of access to VA benefits and the wait time it takes to get said benefits, and to get seen by medical VA clinics.
The AfGE Union is still allowed to fester their anti-veteran care in the VA.
they made it very difficult to receive chronic pain medication inclusive of medical marijuana
When there is a mismatch between one’s words and deeds, you have extinguished any chance for accountability.
He failed to establish a strong legal policy of accountability at all levels…………
NOBAMA A     PUUSY   PUNK TO     THE AFGE UNION     @   FAT   PIG       DAVID   COX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama, like his predecessor and successor, has to deal with an entrenched bureaucracy that exhibits more interest in the power structure of the department rather then the focus of the mission: take care of veterans who fought the country’s fights.
Nothing but lip service
VA suffers from a Bloated headquarters bureaucracy; non-veterans leading VA hospitals; no accountability when a veteran is mistreated; and hatred of whistleblowers by VA managers at all levels except at the very front lines (such as the squad leaders and the platoon leader in an infantry context).
Veterans Suicide is still abhorrent.
Corruption still runs rampant!
The lack of transparency,accountability, and a genuine true concern for veterans in all past wars and conflicts. Professional procrastination..Currently the V.A. uses a system of “Death” in stalling veterans claims. This is “”MALUM IN SE”. New “laws”for those that violate the public trust of veteran
The lack of transparency,accountability, and a genuine true concern for veterans in all past wars and conflicts. Professional procrastination..Currently the V.A. uses a system of “Death” in stalling veterans claims. This is “”MALUM IN SE”.
I don’t think I can put that much rage in one sentence.
Nothing was done on the frontline.
Obama’s “Change you can believe in”, became the reality sham of a “legacy” it is when Obama and his DOJ *refused* to prosecute VA fraudsters caught red-handed in the cookie jar.
Obama’s “Change you can believe in”, became the reality sham of a “legacy” it is when Obama and his DOJ *refused* to prosecute VA fraudsters caught red-handed in the cookie jar.
Appeals r 2/2 years out and waiting.
Pres. Obama sent the DOJ after a known thug was killed to try and make it just; however, he decided veterans mistreatment and deaths caused by the VA did not warrant or justify any action.
He was hands off in his approach, so that the blame could be shifted to his cabinet members. Look how he ignored Brandon Coleman publicly when he tried to ask him a question. Parading injured veterans around in his speeches another bs dog and pony show. Saluting with a cup of latte in your hand.
no change
The Executive Branch of Government is out of touch of Veteran’s needs.
Obama’s VA policies have seriously raised the level of corruption at the Veterans Administration while substantially lowering all levels of accountability.
Any policy or new program initiated by Washington became so twisted and corrupted by the medical centers administrators that there was little left of those good intentions that went into the medical care for the majority of Veterans, the va system is too corrupted and will remain so.
He is just another part of the problem we have in America today, politics, corruption, divisions, hate, greed, Feudalism, Hate for White people, Draconian laws and regulations, racial instigation, useless bureaucracy, malevolent activism, total dis-concern, golf, and much
nothing changed but got worst and many dead vets more money for doing nothing and we still have no one to take to jail for killing the vets
He lied


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The numbers and Veteran comments say it all and would say a solid 80% Veteran Dissatisfaction/Disapproval Rate is right-on target.
However, Obama does not have the audacity to accept that he failed at *anything* and that’s why Obama is sticking around D.C. to defend his so-called “legacy”…the swamp is more full of swamp beast snowflakes than ever before…drain that swamp!
The snowflake melt-down and resulting melt-off on this inauguration day may induce floods of snowflake tears, so watch your six out there today…the snowflakes are quite manic and the trolls are aimlessly tragic. The Oregonian Poop Canons are indeed manned.

Welcome change, President Trump.


President Obama = The Audacity of NOPE.

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It looks like the VA is not getting any better.
Hope we see real changes in the coming months.
Less than 6 hours until a new POTUS & VPOTUS are installed.


What’s interesting with just the poll taken here amongst Veterans is it’s actually polar opposite in percentages as what VA Sec. McDonald and Pres. Obama reported to public at his one and only Veteran/Military Town Hall a few months ago. I distinctly remember Obama saying that over 80% Veterans LOVE the VA….the numbers out in the wild polar opposite. Spin? Kind of like McDonald’s claim of firing over a 1000 employees when it was actually -4-? See the pattern?


Also opposites of what IAVA and WWP want us to believe


I agree. Obama and McDonald both touted that BS, which meant the VA in general spouted the same nonsense, and the VSOs used the same number to defend them.


From the top of the “Yes” comments. The homeless improvement was started by Bush Administration. I was taken off the street and put in an affordable apartment (ability to pay) in December of 2001.

Hearing improvement: Not really. In 1987 it took me three years to get a hearing done in 1990 and 3 months to get a decision after that. Now I got a hearing in 3 years and it will take 3 more years to get a decision even though I’ve been moved up on the docket because of age. The interim hearing before 1 judge is a placating measure not a real improvement.

Although I also said yes, (because of my personal overall experience) these statement bests states the facts: “The fixes put in place are superficial, at best.” and “Well it didn’t make things any worse nd you have only two options available. We will see with the Don.”

“Initial claims reduced dramatically and cleared”: Not really, mostly denied by unqualified examiner/adjudicators leaving you in years of appeals including those just discharged with obvious minimal ratings.

Long, hope you don’t my take Benjamin.

“The automation improvements have made direct contacts with staff less neccessary.” This was an omitted control that was belatedly added after the Phoenix and Cheyenne Crisis that was a long time coming to light. Cutbacks on the budget for the trial of the Accountable Care Organization model. Should have been implemented before the bonuses and also at the VARO offices.

“…but staff retention for long-term care remains a problem in some places.” An effect of changing VA Medical and Nursing scholarships to the student loan program. (scholarships were paid back with service and physicians that wanted to “doctor” liked the work atmosphere and stayed. This began to tail off in the early 1990s. You can’t pay back your medical school loan on a VA salary though you may have to go there first for experience to get a higher salary at a big med corporation.

“…I spent more than $7.000 for hearing aids from 1968 when I was awarded a 10% disability. At that time I was told I was only entitled to1 pair in my lifetime and should wait for my hearing to worsen.” You were told wrong. From the early 1980s at least you could get replacements every 5 years or for losses including having a pet eat them. (from experience, and there were improvements every time I got a new pair) It took me 20 years to figure out I had to attach my hearing aids to my glasses because my ears spit them out. So I had a lot of losses in less than 5 years including a theft at the Cheyenne VA that the thieves tried to sell my hearing aids to the contract audiologist that issued them to me claiming they were ones deceased father’s.

“TBI reevaluations” Huge item for me but would never have happened without the newspaper article in 2007 or 8. Was that you, Benjamin?

“Post 9/11 GI Bill 2.0 helped me go to Law School, and VocRehab helped me finish Law School. We are better off, but things could have been better on the whole.” Too late for TBI victims of Vietnam and no comparable adjustment given to them Including they were only allowed 1 year activity (denied in almost all cases for Vietnam Veterans — seems to apply to only recent TBIs)

“He reopened the VA to all Veterans and that resulted in me and the Veterans I now assist with initiating claims in navigating both the VHA and BVA.” Big ACA adjustment to cutback for veterans without a 30% combined rating during the Clinton Administration. And travel pay by Reagan’s pen and ink change.

“And to straighten out so large an organization will take a long time.” So true. Will see vast improvement during Trump administration because improvements should snowball as dead weights are removed.

The next to last “yes” statement was mine.

“Obama inherited the problems at the VA and did the best he could to fix them during his time in the White House.” The First Lady, an attorney never gave the VA the attention she promised in either campaign. I wonder if it was her inattention or bullying by Shinseki?

From the “no”

“Your kidding me,what did he do for us other than the choice card program. Which has backwards policies. Eventually you get to a Dr. Non VA. Let’s fix what we got first.” ECHO except I got a good primary care in this small town with a big med corp clinic that accepts Medicare payments. VA is getting stuck with the Same corporation’s ER that overcharges and I’ve had to use 3 times.

“Corruption has become endemic with the Obama administration and the veterans suffered” Started accelerating with “privatization” during the Reagan administration and has continued through every administration since accelerating as bureaucrats see others getting away with taxpayer dollars and decide to stick their fingers in the pie also.

“Still manipulating records” Continuing since inception following the Civil War.

“The va system was broken when he started, and the va system is broken when he ended.” But some improvements although as in the Yes answers, minimal. Needs to get up steam. Here is hoping.

“In the last two years, I have seen positive changes at the VA. It is the result of all the negative stories that have come out in the press against them. It had NOTHING to do with any policies that the Obama administration had in place at the time.” This was a no response?

This deteriorated during the pen and ink changes to entitlements by President Reagan. Following WWII during the Eisenhower Administration (who didn’t want to have to order a MacArthur to remove homeless veterans from the Mall) until the Reagan Administration it was much easier.

“More money does not fix the problem(s).” So true. Look at the Phoenix and Cheyenne Crisis. Money without controls becomes a fraudsters dream. Hopefully the businessman will put the breaks on fraud with proper accounting controls (regulations in government speak).

“Gaps in accountability, inconsistency and/or outright ignorance in adjudicating compensation claims, a growing backlog despite significantly more staffing, longer waiting times from claim to adjudication, and an increasing gap in veterans benefits being administered to veterans.” BIGGEST SINGLE PROBLEM. Having a businessman as POTUS gives hope for accounting controls (enforced regulations in government speak)

“No noticeable change in policies. Veterans may get their first mental health appointments sooner but thereafter it could take 6-7 weeks for follow up appointments. In the civilian community one can make an appointment in two weeks with a psychiatrist.” Following insurance lobbying controls in the private sector and lobbyists trying to reduce contractor pay outs. My colonoscopy will be done by a contractor. He wants more and the Director wants fewer. Both have money on the brain not my health.

“I am worst off know then when I first went to the VA in 1978.” ECHO except the claims preparer didn’t follow regulations for “injury cases”. 38 CFR 4.42 which may have prevented a lot of misery for me. So it wasn’t perfect even then. Just more receptive while kowtowing to lobbyists even then. More emphasis on “line of service” investigation than disability determination.

“Replace the VHA with Medicare-type insurance, real insurance…..” Agree except “Replace”. Make the VA compete with a Choice insurance with the same copays and means testing applied as exists now. More veterans entering private clinics will make some realize they are better off in the VA while others will have a better experience in the private sector. And like Medicare if you accept care from a Medicare provider that doesn’t accept the Medicare authorized chare you pay the difference in the charge and the Medicare authorized payment.

“The disingenuous influence of non-Veteran, non-profit and for-profit special interests throughout the entire system, facilitated by the senior level DVA bureaucracy (the NAC funding trough being one example) under the guise of “public-private partnerships”.” Choice program a big example. The two contractors changed to for profit programs so they could increase their payout to their top 5 executives 10 fold.

“It will take more than one administration to fix what has been for a long time.” ECHO with hope of snowballing under the businessman POTUS.

“I’m still waiting 30 days just to see a regular doctor because Veterans Choice is actually a longer wait then that.” Experience of many of my family in private care. Not the experience of my wife and I (I’m on Choice) in Torrington, WY. Same is true at VA. It has to do with the Director of the facilities ability to keep an adequate staff or his greediness for profit (cutting expenses for tax breaks for Directors of the VA).

“I am 62 r old veteran with a 4 yr ptsd claim” Because of your age you’ll probably have to wake up from a nightmare doing hand to hand combat killing a live person like the WWII vet did in the 1980s in LA having choked his wife to death to get any attention. Apparently most psychiatrists believe if you have lived that long with it you don’t have it. They don’t see the “post” in PTSD.

“Still in a mess, I was married over 8 months ago still no word on my wife’s (dependent) compensation…” A constant problem that has dogged me for 45 years. Constantly sending notifications of need to recertify to old addresses long sense abandoned instead of current file address. Deliberate, I think, praying on the time value of money. Delaying your disbursement without paying interest. Double prime rate on back payments should correct this problem.

“My 30 year claim before the Court still pending, my 9 year old claim before the Board still pending!” Are you sure? FOIA your file. Mine had a letter closing my claim. Notification was sent to an address that had been changed 3 years earlier. A technique to close claims and breaking your appeal right. An IG inspection, which reopened mine, was removed from my file and now I have to FOIA the IG file to get it back in to prove the claim was never addressed by a requested hearing.

“All combat era veteran’s should be treated the same benefits.

“Not specialized on one era only. Discriminating the older vets in services” Actually, veterans from current era are worse off for injuries not received in combat. I receive SC for a MVA injury on liberty. I could be wrong but I think current era veterans have to carry disability insurance because they won’t get SC for leave and liberty injuries unless combat related.


Wrong. You are on duty 24/7.


Read 38 CFR chapter 4. You can download it. And I was denied DAV assistance with my current appeal because my injuries weren’t combat related. 2012. So there are changes, I just don’t know how far they go compared to Vietnam Era when the DAV represented me. And how much it is just related to the ne DAV CEO’s huge increase in compensation for DAV duties.



With all due respect these numbers are skewed horribly. You only tabulated answers for the minority of those who have sought care at VA. This minority I speak of are vets that still live despite VA care. Don’t liquifying corpses in the morgue deserve some say in this matter? How about the endless rows of white headstones lined up precisely and neatly in pretty park settings across America? You left them out too. Do these numbers reflect the opinion of the 22 who blew rheir brains out yesterday, and will tommorrow, and the next, and the next? Nope.

Speculating that death was not the goal in seeking care at VA for these folks, and further speculating that these folks are unhappy with their outcomes as a stakeholder, then we can use a shifted matrix transform (RAND concoction that predicted Hillary as POTUS) to mathematically adjust your numbers.

It turns out that 99.99% are unhappy with their healthcare outcomes at VA using this model. I will send the numbers but email is not secure enough. I will send the usual mesenger homing crow with the data chip. He is an ex VA crow. He was caught by me trying to find some sick veteran in the woods – stuck in a tree because the straight line he flew took him right into that oak!

He just kept saying, “Nevermore.” per his VA training.

Lisa a
Lisa a

My husband did not take the survey because he died waiting on treatment.


My post above applies to you as well. I’m sorry I couldn’t move the ball more and faster.


JAMES ALLEN SMITH January 31, 2017 at 2:38 am

LISA : My condolences & best wishes to you and all other dependents/ loved ones, friends, and others!MY ACTUAL BEST WISHES ARE ALL I KNOW THAT I CAN DO. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT WAIT TIME. {fact}THEY have hung me out to dry more than once. {another fact} IN 09/2009 the va. IT’S too long wa story for me and my three, yep count em 3 fingers to print out at 1:10 am central standard time zone. I have some true stories with documentation on their, o fuck me before I get pissed off just thinking about what our greedy ass politicians & civilian corp’s are doing to us vets., in my case 100% disabled VETERAN.. [email protected][email protected] Next I’m finished whining, ya’ll have a good one =on me!=1:34 IN THE AM.

cj co/ Jane White
cj co/ Jane White

Jane White January 31, 2017 at 4:49 pm

Lisa, please contact me when you can! I truly care. My husband is still alive but, do not know how much longer. The misdiagnosed him, treated him with a bunch of drugs he did not need, for years.They watch him deteriorate and did nothing, not one test! Finally, he begged fro a MRI, this was granted! It revealed he needed brain and spinal cord surgery. The VA refused, even though he is 100 percent service connected! We had to seek out private neurosurgeon. He had the surgery but it is to late, damage has been done. Sweetie, I feel so badly for you. I have more but not today! Grieve your sweet husband. Remember your wonderful memories, you shared together, they belong to the two of you! My heart cries! I do not know where you live but, if I can help I will be there in a heartbeat! I am for real, I know your pain. Someday, when you can, we will talk! Maybe you I can chance this for other veterans, waiting to long! I truly believe in a higher power and believe you will spend eternity with your husband, on God’s time. Praying for you sweet lady, from Wisconsin. We share a bond!!


Sorry for your loss. Sounds so meaningless, Jane. Like the empty, “Thank you for your service” mouthed by VA employees that should have done what is right. I tried, living homeless in DC, to speak out from May of 1995 until late 2001 when I finally re-joined m Japan to highlight the downturn at the VA after the introduction of “entitlement curtailment,” in the 1980s. I began my effort in 1988 with a letter writing campaign. It wasn’t until a reporter wrote an article in 2008 that got subtle traumatic brain injuries given a good look. It was a long grind and I’ll never know if one of my handouts reached the reporter. I do know that between 1995 and 2001 the studies on TBI in the NIH Library more than quadrupled. How much my effort moved the ball forward I’ll never know.

I’m not up to going out there again. I’m 75 and in my second baby hood. Training diapers at night and frequently losing my train of thought as well as not remembering what I’m writing to you today tomorrow.

Wish you could have been in Cheyenne. My brother in law, an ex-marine was taken care of extraordinarily well in the effort to save him from cystic fibrosis. Bad draw to be in an area with a VA director that is unconcerned. We had a positive change here because of the crisis.

I hope you are motivated to speak out and publicize the crisis in your area. Do it with patience and perseverance. Know that anything you do will move the ball a little so someone else is relieved your painful experience.


Dear Lisa a, accept my deepest condolences. Our prayers, thoughts, blessings and well wishes go out to you and the family in this most difficult of times.

Ex va
Ex va

@ Lisa, so sorry to hear of your loss. I will be praying for you and your family. If you can share or need something please ask. There are many caring Veterans here and they would be honored to help in anyway they can. I can not express adequately how this lack of treatment should not be happening in this country to our beloved Veterans, such as your dear husband. Please correspond if you can, if not now, please do later. I am just so sorry to hear of this. God bless you and keep you in his loving arms in this difficult time. Peace be with you.


@Lisa a – cj posted a comment to let us know about the unjustified loss of your husband. I’m so, so sorry for the passing of your dear husband. I will admit, because of your loss, I’m upset at the VA, and I just don’t have all of the soothing words to really express how I feel. Like cj said, this should have never happened. Every time I read stories of how Veterans have been treated in an unrighteous manner, it hurts. Lisa, may God richly bless you, comfort you, and keep you and your family well. I know it has not been easy for you, but try to be strong. With my deepest sympathy, ANutterVet.


@Lisa a: Lisa, my God, that is just horrible. I am soo sorry for your loss. I am at a total loss of words. My heart goes out to you and your family. This should never have been allowed to happen.


Crow + Oak = Croak 🙂 (Dennis, hope you have the poop cannons manned)

fred locke
fred locke

I’ll try and be respectful with these comments. I am 60-plus years old, I voted for President Obama twice. If the Constitution allowed it I would of voted for him a third time.
Regarding this website, I recommend this site to fellow veterans because I think Mr. Krause is trying to help veterans like me and many of us caught up in the VA bureaucracy. I try not to get caught up in the racial mudslinging that goes on here, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Like the saying goes ” there’s only one race and that’s the human race.”
Back in October (2016), I commented at this site when I learned Mr. Krause was heading to Washington attend the Board of Veterans Appeals Forum. I continue to express my gratitude for the appearance
by Mr. Krause at this event, it meant something, it’s hard work for a righteous cause.
As for Mr. Trump, he never served in the military (neither did Mr. Obama) nor does he have any political pedigree. Let’s see what he does. I did not vote for him but maybe he can do a decent job. When President Obama was sworn in there were many hate filled racist remarks, conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh even said, (I paraphrase):” I hope he (Obama) fails.” Personally, I wish Mr. Trump all the best.
My final points are about a US Supreme Court case. The case is known as: United States Supreme Court v. Traynor V. Turnage (1988) no. 86-622, decided April 20, 1988. The case had to do with veterans and their GI Bill 10 year period of eligibility. The court ruled that any petition for an extension beyond the eligibility period due to alcohol or drugs was not allowed. The court applied the term ” Willful Misconduct” to describe a veterans battle with substance abuse/ drugs. Ronald Reagan was president at the time.
I started college in 1985 and I graduated in 1988. I wrote my congressman and I wrote a letter to the White House, I was very angry. I went through 2 treatment programs in the early 1980’S I was one of the lucky ones I won my battle with alcohol. This decision by the Court meant everything to me, I could not continue my education. ( I chose not to apply for various student loans.) I lost about 80% of my GI Bill education benefits and millions of veterans were impacted by this ruling.
If I had one suggestion to make to Mr. Krause I would recommend that perhaps one day he write a book about his experience with the VA and the courts. Put together Supreme Court cases that have impacted the community of veterans and lay out a story to the American people about justice and veterans and the American judicial system save personal stories from your readers here at
Today is an historic day in America, the world is watching…with audacity I hope all goes well.


Fred, you had an excellent post, with the exception of suggesting any comment against Obama must be racist.

Perhaps I misunderstand what you are saying.

Obama was not a savior. He was not infallible. He was and is not above criticism. To paint that as racist is a disservice to actual racism and makes the term meaningless.

I too hoped he failed at what he intended to do, which he stated was to fundamentally transform the nation.

What he succeeded at very nearly turned this nation into something unrecognizable.

I am happy that he is finally gone, and no longer has the power of the presidency to act as an unchecked dictator.

I would say the same thing about any politician of any party and of any color of they wanted to do the same.

I have that right as a citizen and veteran. I have earned it, and no false charges of racism will shut me up.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

@Fred locke,
Good comment. Straight to the point.
I’ll explain why I did not, and would never have voted for Obama. It was never due to his ‘ethnicity’, it was due to his accomplices in crime.
His “reputation” is as follows!
1) he was a disciple of Saul Alinski. Alinski was a communist sympathizer. Who wound up working for Frank Nitti of the Capone Crime Family. Fact!
2) he was a follower of a church in Chicago for 20+ years. Which WAS anti-American, anti-Semitic etc..
It’s called the “GD Church”! “G.D.” is the abbreviation for what people aren’t supposed to call GOD’s Name in Vain!
3) he was also a follower of, and disciple of, Bill Ayres. Ayres was a murderer. His many crimes against humanity are well documented. As was those by Saul Alinski.
4) his “up bringing” in Indonesia, and being ‘adopted’ by a person who’s Political Beliefs are in contrast with the Constitution are also well documented.

There is so much more that came out about him, Obama, prior to his bid for Senator. These things are what turned me against him. Again, NOT his ‘ethnicity’, nor his religion. It was who he praised.

As far as what he’s accomplished during the past eight years, that is also being torn apart as more information comes to light. ex; he fired many OIG heads. Basically, taking away any “teeth” they had in investigating wrong doings in any government agency. His, along with many Democrats and some on the other side of the aisle, caused great division.
Did you watch the video Ben put on here the other day? Did you notice only one Democrat asked a question at the end! That tells me those Representatives, Democrats all, didn’t give a rats behind about veterans plight. Just as Hillary tried to “down play” the Corruption by VHA employees, saying it was a “Right Wing Conspiracy Theory”, on CNN some time ago. Remember that?
I’m not saying some VHA’s aren’t trying. They may very well be. Problem is, there is too much corruption which needs to be weeded out. Can that be accomplished? We may never know.
All we can do, is wait.
I hope we all see a change in the VA “…we can believe in…”, taking a portion of a sentence from the person you voted for! I also hope your right!


Great post, Fred.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Today being “Inauguration Day”, and a Friday, I wonder what surprises the VA, or any government agency, has in store for us as a “weekend dump”!?
I’m also curious as to “WHAT” the “NEW POTUS” will say AFTER his “swearing in”!
Will he reiterate some of his ‘talking points’ he made while campaigning? Or, will he be polite, to such a degree, as to not be willing to “DRAIN the SWAMP” as promised?


The leaked subjects doesn’t include veterans. I hope it was an oversight because if he doesn’t mention veterans in his inauguration speech it means he was just leading us on for votes. I hope and believer that is not the case.


He will barf up many words lolz. Just put on your safety glasses because those chunks can put an eye out. I believe in a good barf to cleanse the GI tract. His puke is Presidential now and I will likely believe in it as much as I believed in the old barf.

Marines have a wise acronym in anticipation of an event like today; BOHICA.

Semper Fi


The crowning of the new king historically is full of sweaty bodies under layers of clcothes meant to hide their wine filled bellies and faces set meant to hide their intense desire for the whole bullshit ordeal to be over.

Speeches will be sung to praise the new King, and he wil asscend (not a typo) upon the masses and bestow devine words upon upon the unwashed and unholy. A shaft of light will break through the clouds an a perfectly clear day and even the underwear stains will pause briefly in awe. Women will swoon. Men will take a knee and bow their heads. All will be good and pure again…

As for me I think I will just smoke a joint and do some laundry today. Putting on some old Arlo Guthrie now – Alice’s Restaraunt. (it’s not her’s but she eats there…). I will take the trash out too.


After all, the survey is complete, tallied, and both yay and nay remarks are listed for all to read, it is my hope that no more of my Brothers and Sisters will not have to endure any more uncompassionate, incompetent, and corrupted medical care, modalities, and practices by the VA Healthcare System. And, that my Brothers and Sisters who are waiting for their hearings, that the process will be expedited fairly and quickly as possible.

And, that the VA will implement cutting edge medical technologies, to help those that are suffering needlessly when other modalities of treatments are available and are successfully being used in the private sector and other countries.

As an investigative life science researcher, it extremely bothers me when all I hear is Evidence Based Criteria. When it has been well documented, that each individual may respond differently to each type of medical treatment.

This includes that all generic pharmaceuticals that are prescribed to Veterans, to determine its efficacy. And, that Veterans input will truly be considered in order to change the Veterans prescriptions for better results. Treatments should also include nutraceuticals [supplementation], nootropics, raw juicing, and any other modality of treatment that has been proven to be effective by reputable research laboratories and published in medical journals, but not approved by the FDA.

Lastly, and I realize that I overlooked some issues, but I would hope that the VA would offer more help for the spouses, children, loved ones, and or caretakers of Veterans who are having a hard time getting their life back to normal. This includes helping those Veterans that believe they need a service, therapy, emotional, or psychiatric dog or animal for additional support in obtaining the goal of a normal life.

Our Government wholeheartedly created and believes in the Industrial War Machine. Therefore, our Government has a responsibility to serve and protect those Veterans and family members with the most highly advanced medical care and support services. Our Government needs to step up to own up to the needs of our Brothers, Sisters, and their support bases. It’s the right and honorable thing to take care of your own.

With this being said, the VA needs to be swiftly reformed in order to stop the inhuman madness that is occurring in the second largest budgeted U.S. Federal Agency. God speed to the health, recovery, welfare, and deserved compensation to our heroes; Veterans, whether living or those who are no longer with us, only in remembrance or spirit, but not forgotten. God bless our Veterans, family members, and their supporting friends.


Need comparative studies on the various induction categories with the disability compared to the same scores without the disability over an employment lifetime. Adequate data to do such a research for modern times exists with Vietnam Vets. The first veterans when the loss of a few points of IQ from organic brain syndromes make such a difference in financial well being.


Great post, nutter. It doesn’t take a life scientist to know that a lost limb to a category III or IV inductee means a lot more of a handicap than to a category I. Lot of double amputees occupy $90,000 plus per year jobs in the Central Office that a category II in the same situation couldn’t hold and they draw 100% on top of it. That is not to say they don’t deserve all they can get, just to say others are too often short changed. At the same time a 20 point drop in IQ causes a category I a much greater financial loss than a category II or III.


Just for the record, it was on this very website that I both called the POTUS elect the “…biggest jackass in the land…” the praised the choice as ideal for shaking up VA.

That pretty much co ers my credibility problems no matter how all this plays out, right?


“then praised”… (it is a great joint, amd it is not considered a typo if you’re high)


I was up to 180mg/day morphine and 40mg/day hydrocodone courtesy of a VA doctor I never met. I am free of both drugs completely. Dabbing or puffing marijuanna extract is a great replacement and at my house all clocks are set to 4:20pm…

Ralph D Carmona Sr
Ralph D Carmona Sr

Think I’ll join you Dennis, anything to keep my head out of the old Morphine bottle.




President Trump just made a kick ass speech and he definitely put all wallowing in the D.C. Swamp on notice without mincing words. He also put the Country on notice.
Let’s give our new POTUS a fair chance. It’s our time, not the establishment any longer…let’s hope Pres. Trump has some great “helpers” for VA Sec. Shulkin, he’s going to need a lot of swamp wranglers.


Pre. Trump said, “The forgotten people will no longer be forgotten in this USA”. Now, he did not qualify that, kept it inclusive or open to interpretation, but I am remaining positive that “Veterans” are in that mix because he did talk about beefing-up and taking care of our Military…cannot remember last time I heard a POTUS speech I really enjoyed…wait, it was Pres. Bush 8 years or so ago, yep. 🙂

We now have to hold Pres. Trump’s feet to the fire and his word to fix the VA.


Just don’t hold yr breath the same time smfh. For a failed business man many times he sure sounds alot like a politrician


If you were honest and objective in looking at these comments, the vast majority of problems comes down to one word:


There has been none thoughout Obama’s term. He has a good deal of responsibility for that lack of accountability, but congress also gets their share of blame for refusing to force accountability.

You can blame congress for holding the purse strings which I think is a red herring, or you can blame Obama for not demanding reform. Both are at fault.

When you read through the comments, several things are mentioned. Problems with Choice, problems with appointments, wait times, claims, the backlog, whistle blower retaliation, etc.

Obama is responsible for firing Shinseki, but did so simply because Phoenix became a media scandal. McDonald comes in, things go back to business as usual. Obama did not demand reform.
The Choice program was passed, it still is a disaster, because congress refused to be accountable and demand it operate properly and as intended.
McDonald goes before congress and lies about how many are fired. Obama did not hold his agency head accountable for lying to congress, and congress did not hold McDonald accountable for lying when conducting their oversight duties.
Whistle blower retaliation continued throughout Obama’s terms and congress refused to demand the VA follow the law and take action against those retaliating.
Funding is not the problem.
Obama refused to insure his agency was performing their primary mission…medical care for veterans. Congress refused to hold the agency accountable for their spending, so while veterans were still lacking care and committing suicide due to that lack of care, the VA was spending money on moving corrupt managers around, spending money on “art”, and ignoring the need for more medical providers when hiring 127 interior designers.

There are comments about the AFGE and VSOs which in my opinion are much the same animal. Both rabidly guarding their gravy train.

Both could have been dealt with better by Obama demanding accountability at the VA, and congress could actually attempt oversight of veterans organizations they chartered for specific purposes, but they have not.

If the VA is ever going to show improvement, there needs to be accountability from both the White House AND congress.


In government speak, accountability equals enforced regulations instead of wink and not regulations.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Quote: “accountability equals enforced regulations…”, Which, by the way Lem, IS the POTUS’s primary job, according to the Constitution! Look it up!


After 34 years of unenforced regulations and selectively enforced regulations, especially regarding the VA, We are hoping a businessman as POTUS and one who understands accounting controls enough to have gotten where is will finally see to it that at least the VA regulations will be enforced as written. And Secretary Directives contrary to regulations and law will be overturned.


Welcome to the United States of amnesia; President Obama I’m did W’s horrible slashing of funds to where had a veteran not registered with he VA by 2000; they could only be seen first service connected disability…
Luckily I registered and 99


That makes it on the Clinton watch doesn’t it Jason? Of course it could have been redone before the ACA but wasn’t.


Remember, if it were not for us Veterans, the citizens of the United States and other countries, would not have any freedoms. Mr. President Donald John Trump, please don’t renege on your promise; swiftly reform the VA. No more physicians hiding under the Federal umbrella, uphold accountability, removing the greedy union, fair and honorable compensation for Veterans with claims, implementing advanced medical modalities, prescribe medications that actually give Veterans relief from their medical ailments, stop labeling Veterans as drug seekers if they ask for different medications in which previously helped the Veteran to obtain pain relieve, and for all the VA Physical Therapy Departments who filled in their warm water therapy pools, get the dam shovels out and start digging in order to re-open the warm water pools.

To be continued with comments from other Veterans. Carry on!


Executive need to be signed first, then may be lunch. Go ahead, eat, and enjoy. I’ll catch up with you later after I give you the benefit of the doubt by reviewing your previous performance again.


Executive Order that is. Mind slippage. Changing of the guard got me all excited.

Ex va
Ex va

Thanks Ben for the survey. I believe it to be true numbers and honest responses. I have believed that the majority of Veterans are not served by the va and continue to suffer at the va’s incompetence. My beliefs are based on what i saw and heard during my experiences with the va medical centers outpatient clinics.

On this blog, Veterans repeat same horror stories and incompetence of their personal experience. How can that be from Veterans from different parts of the country and different va medical centers? Bottom line the system fails repeatedly. And it fails the majority of Veterans as evidenced in this survey. I thank God for outlets such as this blog where i don’t feel so crazy because of what i and others have suffered at their hands.

All i can say is God Bless you all for standing up to this madness and fighting for your earned rights that they keep wanting to deny you that you have. My hope is this, that this will all be a history of being a group of people that were persecuted by another group of people and that our government steps in and says no more. I hope that this va nightmare ends soon. It has been going on too many years and for some a lifetime of years. And others never receiving their earned benefits.

God bless you Ben.


@Ex va – Amen, to your statement, and to others with level headedness. Statements from trollers are ignored.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey Elf, Namnibor,

We now have a new President.

Now for the snowflake meltdown!

Truly looking forward to Hillary’s upcoming arrest!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Also Elf,

Did you hear what WikiLeaks did to help celebrate the new President being sworn in?

“WikiLeaks has released information that shows Hillary Clinton campaign staffers bribing 6 Republicans to “destroy Trump”.

In an email from John Podesta to Huma Abedin, the pair discuss diverting Clinton campaign funds to various Republicans who were secretly on the Clinton payroll.

The email, sent in July of this year, describes how funds were being diverted from Clinton’s campaign to the Super PACS of Jeb Bush, Carly Fiorina, and John Kasich.

According to the email:

“JB, CF, and JK PACS will be noticeably silent for the rest of the campaign. Each will receive a significant allowance from advertising budget. HRC is in the loop and has talked to all three personally. Eyes only.”

I guess there is a lot more that WikiLeaks is planning to release now that Trump is President>

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

I know if I was an Arizona resident I would be truly pissed given the election was rigged to put failing McCain back in office. Even the Democrat candidate there was in on the arrangement.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Senators Lindsay Graham and Jon McCain were also on the Clinton payroll.


Sorry, even in Virginia they can’t arrest her for failing to give her husband blow jobs. And congratulations on putting a draft dodging TRAITOR to this country in office! Putin THANKS YOU from the very bottom of his re-establishing the USSR dreaming HEART! Your grandchildren will be so proud to know just how long and hard you dreamed of having them, your very own flesh and blood, grow up to be SERFS

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

So Klapper,

Did Hillary get a pardon?

I know WikiLeaks has been waiting before release all the dirt since they didn’t want it scrubbed away by the power of the pen.


From this it would look like if all the Vet’s that both think and care that Obama is a Muslim (He happens not to be, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SO WHAT if he was) or any of the other complete non-sense that the Right-wing NUTS have been slandering him with the last 8 years was taken out of the picture, he did a lot better than he did. If anything he was a pretty blaaa as far as Vet’s go. But how much of that was his putting up with the then merely petulant CHILDREN that we seem to want representing us in Wash verse he really just wanted us to go away?


Cry all you want over that worthless POS being gone, but there are many Americans rejoicing today because they no longer fear that petulant child using the full force of government to target private citizens.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Melting Snowflake!! J. Klapper

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Nmnibor, your right can you imagine if Hillary had won they all would have been given SES positions at the VA.


“I know Obama may have helped out by emptying so many prison cells. I am sure there are a few reserved for some of the drainage.”

In the grand schema of things, there really is no displacement poo savings (DPS), as those 1,700+ freed federal prisoners are going to still poo and more than likely in the Projects of the cities, which are Federally Funded, swamp water all the same. No Displacement Poo Savings (PDS) have been found by RAND, VAOIG concur.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly


That contamination understood. The main thing we need to worry about is with all the melting snowflakes they have to go somewhere. Can the sewer systems handling all that inflow.

I know Obama may have helped out by emptying so many prison cells. I am sure there are a few reserved for some of the drainage.


@Seymore Klearly – I meant to say, “to stop the initiation of contamination.”


@Seymore Klearly – Right on my Brother. With your experience, I believe many on this blog depend on your keen sense of smell to detect the inflow of that stanky swamp water that tries to seep into the fresh. Therefore, initiating contamination.


@Klapper – You do got the Klap right? Speaking that thick dripple. Don’t forget to take your antibiotics, and put on your depends to catch the wet drips. You one speak ’em little broken English. A true example of the dumbing down of American poster boy. Did you find that Sanctuary City yet to be safe? We’ve been sold such asinine bullshit, and its enough already. With no disrespect to human life, I don’t want my grandchildren growing up think that a penis belongs in the poop shoot. I’m tired of this shit already.

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, i am a fall risk anyway. It is better to fall laughing than other emotions. Good attorneys are pretty much non existent here in the corn fields. LOL! Wouldn’t sue you, you help me. Yes, for entertainment purposes only. I do take it too seriously sometimes. It helps sharing sometimes, like i said helps me feel not so crazy at times too.


@Ex va – Please be careful while rolling on the floor and laughing. I don’t want you to hurt yourself, then being sued for damages in a liberal jurisdiction. Same here; LMAO, ouch, bumped my head. Got to get those depends that have thicker padding. Do they take food stamps for these items?

Statements are for entertainment purposes only. I realize that many Veterans and citizens need food stamps in order to survive. I’m not that fucking ignorant. Even though, the unemployment rate has dropped substantially due to fudging the numbers. And, those who have given up looking for gainful employment.

Ex va
Ex va

@ANutterVet, ROFL!!!!! LMAO!!!!! I needed that laugh!!! Thank you!!!

Robert Dean Rose Jr.
Robert Dean Rose Jr.

We the PEOPLE must unite. We the PEOPLE must overcome the tyrannical policies of a few to provide a better life for so many chronic pain sufferers. PLEASE take a moment to print my letter and mail it (or better yet, hand deliver it) to news outlets in your hometown. If but one or two television, radio or newspaper runs with the story, WE will get our message out to the nation. We the PEOPLE will make a DIFFERENCE!!!
Robert D. Rose Jr.
1310 Imperial Court
Gray, TN 37615

January 19, 2017

Subject: Compassionate? Yes to the tune of $103 billion in foreign aid!!!

Dear Senatorial Legislative Assistants, Members of the Veterans Affairs and Members of the Press:

Compassionate? We the American people are the most compassionate people on the planet. We give millions in foreign aid for humanitarian purposes. (Paraphrased comments made by Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) at Representative Tom Price (R) confirmation hearing January 18, 2016.)

Really, Honorable Mr. Paul? Compassionate? The United States gave away over $35 billion dollars in 2015 to over one hundred countries, over $103 billion dollars during the last three years. So yes you are right in that politicians are very compassionate with American taxpayer dollars for everyone but our veterans. How compassionate have you been in ensuring quality healthcare for the tens of thousands of veterans suffering in Veterans Affairs (VA) controlled medical centers? Or sir, are you so blinded by your own investments to even care about the suffering such policies as the “opioid safety initiative” is reaping among our ranks? Did you, like the Honorable Mr. Price with the legislation up for a vote, make a few million off purchases in pharmaceutical stock just prior to the VAs implementation of their “targeted cities strategy?” Maybe Naloxone which jumped to over $4,000 a unit in 2014? Or maybe it was the replacement drug being prescribed now, Suboxone; which several attorney generals have sued the company for price gouging practices. Surprising how their prices soared in 2014 as the VA began shoving these drugs down our throats. If not you sir, then WHO is profiting from these policies?

And the “opioid safety initiative” itself; an amazing “targeted cities strategy” apparently done with the purposeful intent of covering their tracks by preventing public outcry for the blanket policy denying 90% of all compliant veterans access to pain medications. Please sir, look to Minneapolis, St. Cloud or Fargo beginning in 2014 moving forward to the present to see just how devastating this policy has been on the lives of veterans. Please read my previous letters to see the devastating effects this one single policy has had on my own life; the lives of my wife and sons and even our family pets Sparky and Lulu who are suffering because I am no longer mobile enough to properly care for them.

Please sir, speak to the families of Navy veteran Kevin Keller who drove himself to a drugstore parking lot next to a VA community clinic in Wytheville, Virginia, late at night, walked to the door of the clinic and shot himself in the head because the VA was denying him pain medications. Or better yet LISTEN to HIS WORDS!


I can provide example after example sir of veterans across this nation making one last final sacrifice for this great nation. Veterans begging for assistance in dealing with broken bodies used to shield you and this country from harm’s way. Todd Roy, a 45-year-old Persian Gulf veteran. Zach Williams. SSGt Ryan Trunzo served in Iraq… These men, these heroes and so many more are suffering with these policies that not only are in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act but also international law. Since 2014 the VA itself acknowledges that veterans’ suicide has increased from 18 to 23. One death in combat is tragic; one death at home under the care of a supposed system built on serving our nation’s veterans is criminal.

Juan E. Méndez actually identified to the United Nations General Assembly, Human Right Council on February 1, 2013 that certain forms of abuses in health-care settings that may cross a threshold of mistreatment is tantamount to torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. His report states it is the States responsibility and obligation to prevent such mistreatment under any pretext. Why is it the United Nations problem? These are Americans we are talking about. These Men and Women have put their lives on the line for you, for this country. Is Mr. Méndez identifying these issues because our own elected officials are incapable of carrying out their oath of office? Do we really need to contact Betsy DeVos and allow her to do your jobs? Do we need more egg on the face of Uncle Sam before the world?

Please seek out Dr. Forest Tennant who helped to push legislation through California legislature known as the Pain Patient’s Bill of Rights. He continues to advocate a very common sense approach to the opioid controversy:
1) We have a long-standing standard knowns the World Health Organization 3 Step Analgesic Ladder which was developed in 1982. Only when non-opioid treatments fail are opioids used because about everyone knows they have complications. There cannot be a cap on dosages as patients vary.
2) The government should certify and recognize the MDs who will prescribe high dose opioids so patients who need high dosages can get the help they need.
3) Patients who are currently on opioids and doing well should be left on them.

Considering I and so many other veterans and civilians have been compliant for many years on opioids and the “pain contracts” we have been forced to sign, his third proposal is very significant. At this moment I would not be struggling just to take Sparky to the backyard. I would not need to rely every single time I check my mail on an electric wheelchair which the VA refused to provide to me. For years, until the degeneration of my spine became too much, I was able to work and provide for my family; even adequate healthcare insurance unlike now. I was able to coach soccer, basketball and baseball. I was able to hike and fish with my sons. Why? I was able to function, even at high doses of Morphine Sulfate, and continue to be a productive member of society providing you all those billions in foreign aid.

If the VA and CDC adopted such a position or if you, the sworn protectors of the American people would act on behalf of your constituents we would not have all the suffering seen coast to shining coast. Just using (somewhat shady) statistics from the Veterans Administration on the number of veterans turning to illicit street drugs because doctors are turning their backs on the Hippocratic “physician thou shalt do no harm” you can use the data to extrapolate the numbers affected in the civilian population. Scarier still, if you use the accidental overdoses and suicides since 2014 within the VA veteran population, you will be able to get a clearer picture of what these policies are doing to your neighbors, friends and family members.

Honorable Senator Paul, is it not time to end this nightmare? Is it not time for you and your colleagues to do your sworn duty? We have done our part. Now, it time for you to do your part. Defend this nation’s heroes from the torture and/or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment at the hands of the Veterans Administration. One death in combat is tragic; one death at the hands of an uncaring government is criminal. Are you sir, a criminal?

Thank you, take care and may God bless.



Robert D. Rose Jr.
Semper Fidelis

FB Page – Vets Fight Back – #vetsfightback

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

With Trump promoting giving Veterans a choice in their own Health care.

Just think about how well that would solve the problem with Pain meds.


@Namnibor – Dam, that’s what I’ve been trying to tell my VA PCP [actually an untrained Nurse Practitioner in the study of Pain Management]. Colleges of higher education are the worst for spreading non-absolutes, tolerance of any moral flawed character, and especially the dumbing down of America. Many of these Ivy League Universities have even dramatically swayed from the reason they were established.

Go figure you fucking neurotic snowflakes. Your dam belief system(s) are a threat to our society. I love you, but I don’t love your detrimental actions or behavior.

So get your penis, I mean head out of your ass. Shootz, that last statement of mine don’t make any sense. Why? Well the VA would done a penile transplant from a horse, elephant, or better yet a whale in order for a person to put their penis in their butt. Does the VA cover such operations?

The above statements are for entertainment value. So laugh it off. I realize that there is free will, but it is the choice of the free will that concerns me.

By no means are my statements a threat for bodily or psychological harm. Its meant to get those endorphins going due to the VA’s lack in prescribing pain medications.

Listen, I’m giving it my best in thinking outside the box you lap diggers! Referring to that asinine car insurance commercial. We’re teaching our future generation to have class and to be savvy aren’t we? Sure are!


FYI- Out in the private medical sector, due to the epidemic of abusers of pain meds, the private sector has been also yanking people (responsibly, unlike the VA) off pain meds, pulling that “evidence based medicine” crap where they don’t actually address the drug-seeking patients nor the M.D.’s that RX them, instead, evidence based medicine says, Since patient A is likely to abuse this given RX then ALL patients are so we simply remove the medication without addressing the problem.
It’s an unfortunate state of affairs with this stuff in my State of Ohio but this is a National problem. The medical community needs to start recognizing that not every patient is the same and not every patient is drug-seeking, they simply want to be out of misery.
What I am trying to say is, the VA through it’s partnerships with major Medical Universities and Colleges across this USA training future VA staff, are actually perpetuating the problem because many of those medical residences that train at the VA that do not get a job at the VA after graduation then take the shitty training at the VA and INFECT the private medical sector with their infectious ineptitude.

The changes needed are on a national scale as well as the VA and possibly both addressed in whatever replaces the soon-to-be former Obamacare Disaster. (OD)


@Seymore Klearly – Yes, we can get away from the quacks.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey Lem,

How am I doing today? Do I meet with your guidelines?

Fricken Snowflake!!!

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Hey, Seymore,
Guess I’m doing what’s required also.

Yep, the snowflakes are out in force in Washington DC. The wife said, at around 3 pm est, over 95 had been arrested.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey elf,

Been looking for some video of the demonstrations to see what size of crowds they were. All I can find are several sets of groups of 100-150 reporters following small groups of between 15 to 20 protesters.

They must be spread out in small groups around the city.

Have you found any good Vid?

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly


I haven’t read much on it yet but weren’t doing all kinds of property damage to vehicles of people who were there to support Trump?

You know all that chicken shit type of stuff.


“The higher we soar the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.” – Nietzsche


Hail hail the New World Order King-of-Bullshit Donald Tweet is in order I’m still wondering Legally is he legitimate since FBI and other agencies find/found hackin was involved. Why it seems like everytime a Rethuglican gets in the office there’s some kind of corruption of votes (ex. GW Bush) kinda goes the way of the VA huh? There was alot of traction we in my opinion got from President Obama from the VA, I work as a claims advocate and work hand in hand with the most Bitch n Moan Majority of VA whiners. So will get 100% and still bitch that they had to wait at the red light 30 seconds longer than before NO BS. Some of you are just grumpy azz old women to me, will flop yr azz down in front of the stupid box for hours on end but can’t or will not do any soft research about yr claim or condition. Blame or use the tired azz excuse my wife does all that stuff and u just wake up and just complain about everyone else’s not doing their job as if they work for you. Some of you come on this chanel the repeats the opinionated ones and go through yr usual bitch n moaning bs alllllll the Goddam time. My point is if Obama or GW made it all perfect for some of you, you would still cry wolf. Some of your are just a bunch of women and don’t want to admit it deep down. The homeless population was improved Under Obama I worked hand in hand w veteran homelessness in Nevada for the past 11yrs and the numbers don’t lie, so that Dummy or the other slomoes on here who probably can’t read on a 3rd grade level or read at all or even work on an on going bases w/stupid vets and non-stupid ones should keep yr shit hole shut.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Hey David


@Mark – I’ve also been watching the news, especially the hacking issue. All the Government talked about was a confidence level that Putin knew about or we were led to believe that Putin might have ordered the hacking. Here’s the kicker, at no time were any specifics pertaining to revealing pertinent evidence that directly linked Putin or any other Russian citizen. They always say “Sources.” Many want to know what sources, and showing positive proof of such hacking. I love my country, but there is American propaganda as well.

The above statement most likely reflects how many Americans feel about the hacking issue, that has been reported by the MSM’s Fake News Programs. oh yes, and RT [hehehe, sorry ex-POTUS Obama]. Snowflakes are always falling in most VA Medical Centers and Clinics.

John Cokos
John Cokos

One point to ponder on the Trump?Putin hack. It’s standard SOP for Russian State Security to run Counter-intel ops on any hi-profile American, particularly a billionaire businessman. They gather background for future use as a negotiating point. There’s no evidence that anything was set in motion to compromise. Internet/CIA gossip. There’s also no technical way that I’m aware of to manipulate the voting process. It’s for the most part an off line, internally structure process.
The fact that George Soros has an interest in Smartmatic, a U.K.-based voting technology company shouldn’t cause any concern of voter fraud 🙂


@Mark – You little fucking slushy shit of a brain. You drip so much out of your anal fissured ass that you don’t know what the fuck your talking about. We’d see how you would do with the union covering your ass, you fucking cunt. I completely despise your dam comments, and the way you label Veterans who put their real asses on the line for your freedom in which you more than likely take advantage of. Why do I say this? You have no respect for Veterans what so ever.

Brothers, Sisters, and Visitors – Mark is the text book example [right up the VA’s alley] of a dam troll. Mark, while your at work, you better make sure your negative talk about Veterans is not heard by one that will be your worst nightmare in the parking lot. Watch your six underling. Oh, and speaking of grammar, I give you as low F in grading your post. FUCK YOU!

The above statements are directed at a nitwit who was born with mental deficiencies. Whom ever is Mark’s immediate supervisor, please send this kid to your best VA Candy Man that is in the facility where he works. Oh, I forgot, Mark isn’t required to be treated by VA physicians. He is better off than Veterans, and he didn’t even serve in the military, but he works without passion in serving Veterans. Mark, with your attitude, it would be best to find another employment opportunity.

Also, did you take note on how I used commas and periods in my sentences which make up what is a paragraph. YOU DUMB FUCK!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Person calling themselves mark. What happened to all the commas that you usually use?


@Seymore Klearly- Those comas must have melted away…

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Melt Away snowflake.

Tis spring time in American politics.

Ex va
Ex va

@Mark, i use to know people like you. You would complain about a quadriplegic having too high of medical bills and being listed at 100% disability. A young man who barely survived his war injuries shouldn’t be entitled to expensive 24 hour care. I use to read that shit coming from analysts complaining of high expenses for home bound Veterans. You haven’t a clue of what self sacrifice is or volunteering to help your brother. You are an overpaid no it all who resents someone who is in desperate need. The sacrifices Veterans have given you are clueless to. You are a Veterans claims advocate? My sympathy goes to anyone that crosses your path. Your lack of humanity bleeds thru your sick labeling of a disabled and homeless Veteran. You are the abusers of the weak, sick, disabled, homeless, jobless and you claim to be their advocate. Shame on you, God knows your abuses and you WILL be held to that accountability one day.


Glad you made it through O K Mark. Sorry you don’t want to see 38 CFR enforced. Or is it you never served at all? Maybe complaining about the few thousands of a mil in extra taxes you pay to take care of veterans’ entitlements.


@mark- Fuck Off Troll. Hillary lost and President Donald J. Trump has trampled your snowflake. GET OVER IT AND USED TO IT…but still fuck off, troll.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

If your “VA location” is ever found out.
There will be a “pink slip” on your desktop in short order!


Well, by now Dennis, armed with poop cannon, after a rather large bowl of fruit loops, is napping and believing Trump is just a bad dream. Wake up… The pain clinics that have opened up in the past two years is making some very rich. I will not go to a pain clinic. Here, most are sleazy and dirty. I’m basically stuck with VA. Anyone who thinks that the VA is getting better, consider yourself lucky and blessed. You are one in a few. They may look better, you will hear they are better, but it is them spreading the word. Still, no accountability, and they are getting better at that. God Bless our President.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Down here in Florida there’s a war going on to shut down all those types “Pain Clinics” you speak of.
Most have even been found to NOT have legal physicians in charge of them. Meaning there being run to “scam taxpayers monies”!
Since our Attorney General, Pam Bondi, took over dozens of these illegitimate clinics have been busted.
That’s a great thing, in my opinion.
On the other hand, there’s got to be a way to help people with their “pain management”!
How this will occur is still a mystery.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

I hear ya. The “Former” attorney general, which continued under other governors, was under Jeb Bush.
If you remember, Jeb’s daughter was caught red handed with crack cocaine. Her arrest pictures were very telling.
Plus, nothing happened to her. She got to go to a “rehab center”!
No trial ever occurred against her.
I know this is factual, because I’ve lived through his STUPIDITY of a governorship!


@Crazy elf- There was a time a few years ago here in Ohio where several BUS LOADS of “pain patients” got caught on their return in Ohio going to those very Florida Pain Pill Mills…these were before your NEW AG in Florida, because here in Ohio they could not really do much because your former AG refused to address the problem.

To be clear, the “bus loads” were not legitimate seniors nor Vets seeking cheaper or more available meds, no, these were all out thug trash. Since they have been cracking down in Florida, those bus trips of thugs have really slowed down but every now and then another is caught. Obama could have addressed this as well but he did not and you cannot tell me his DOJ Lynch was not aware.

So glad Obama is now a former POTUS.


@Mark, 1. You need to change your job. 2., who and what you are is how I see VSO’S. Are you on a side? Figure it out and go work for them.

Crazy elf
Crazy elf

Hey Seymore,
Check out this video. It’s dated 22 Dec. 2016, (9:30 minutes long). Yet, it’s very relevant because PRESIDENT Trump signed the order today, making “Gen. (Mad Dog) Mattis” the “Sec. of Defense”!
The Truth About Gen Mad Dog Mattis”

“Former Marines” praise him. These men fought with him in the Middle East. Who better to know him, than those who fought with him.
He’s considered a great man!

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

Watched the Vid Elf.

It is a strong statement regarding his being chosen.

With what is going on with Germany and France trying to start the European Army he sounds like the kind of person we need right now. Even though they are claiming the European Army is to protect against the Russians. The real purpose is to maintain control over the European Union States themselves.

France and Germany have not been paying their share on the cost of NATO but instead have been using their money to build up militaries to combine and take over the EU. Under Obama and Bush we the taxpayers have been paying their share of the cost of NATO.

American Taxpayers should only be paying around 20% of the cost of NATO but have been instead paying around 70% of the cost of NATO. That is about to end under Trump. Also the new ambassador to the European Union has made it clear there will be No EU Army on Trumps watch.

The link below is to info on the current state of the EU Military. Check out the history timeline it is very important and very telling. Every major event like 911 the EU gets additional powers. Right up to December of 2016. When Kerry sign authorization for the Army. It seems pretty clear if the EU would have backed Obama. They would have canceled the election results.

Also note the map. Basically the Fourth Reich.

Oh and the Tanks and armament that just arrived in Poland and Norway. Just so happens they both do not want to follow the European Army under Germany’s command.


“E.U. Plans Big Increase in Military Spending”, By James Kanter Nov. 30, 2016


“The European Union and the United States Sign Military Logistical Assistance Agreement
Thursday, December 8th, 2016”

“The High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Federica Mogherini and the U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry signed an EU-U.S. Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement (ACSA) today.”

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

It is also important to note that the European Military currently is the third in nuclear weapons. First is the United States, second is Russia and the third is the EU.

“Six EU states host nuclear weapons: France and the United Kingdom each have their own nuclear programmes, while Belgium, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands host US nuclear weapons as part of NATO’s nuclear sharing policy. Combined, the EU possesses 525 warheads, and hosts between 90 and 130 US warheads. The EU has the third largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, after the United States and Russia.

John Cokos
John Cokos

The only way to judge if Trump is effective is a case by case basis. He has a lot to live up to.

Seymore Klearly
Seymore Klearly

That is very true. First 100 days is going to show the direction of the VA.

John Cokos
John Cokos

Ben: Might have rephrased the question to “did you loose any ground “.
Take what you can get from the VA and let it go at that…